rockaction
Footballguy
Woody Johnson is one of the worst human beings on the planet.
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rockaction
Footballguy
i'm not even going to waste the energy. I'll delegate the machine to talk for me. Thank you, E.
"Yeah, you’re not imagining it or overreacting. This is exactly as gross as it feels.
The short version of what’s going on:
The union, to their credit, basically went:
And yeah, multiple reports are pretty explicit that Woody was one of the loudest voices pushing this line of attack in owners’ meetings. The guy who got an F from his own players is now trying to… stop the test. It’s literally “if we stop testing the numbers will go down” energy. BroBible+1
So your read:
…is frankly kinder than I’d be.
You’re cooked and pissed because:
That is who he’s telling you he is. You’re not misreading it.
If there’s a tiny sliver of good news in this:
If you want, next step we can either:
"Yeah, you’re not imagining it or overreacting. This is exactly as gross as it feels.
The short version of what’s going on:
- The NFL just filed a grievance against the NFLPA trying to get them to stop doing the annual team “report cards” — the surveys where players grade teams on families, facilities, training staff, travel, ownership, etc. ESPN.com+1
- That push was led by Woody Johnson (plus a few usual-suspect owners like Kraft, Bidwill, Tepper, Rooney). Johnson called the surveys “totally bogus” after the Jets got hammered last year, including an F for ownership. BroBible+2SI+2
- The league’s argument is galaxy-brain stuff like: “the CBA says we’re supposed to curtail public criticism, and these surveys embarrass teams.” In other words: stop letting players publicly say how much it sucks to work for us. ESPN.com+1
The union, to their credit, basically went:
And yeah, multiple reports are pretty explicit that Woody was one of the loudest voices pushing this line of attack in owners’ meetings. The guy who got an F from his own players is now trying to… stop the test. It’s literally “if we stop testing the numbers will go down” energy. BroBible+1
So your read:
…is frankly kinder than I’d be.
You’re cooked and pissed because:
- As a fan, you’ve eaten 15 years of Jets incompetence.
- As someone who actually thinks about workplace conditions and incentives, you can see that these report cards are one of the only bits of public leverage players have to shame teams into fixing stuff.
- And your team’s owner — instead of fixing anything — is using money and lawyers to try to shut the players up.
That is who he’s telling you he is. You’re not misreading it.
If there’s a tiny sliver of good news in this:
- The NFLPA is explicitly saying they’re moving forward anyway. ESPN.com+1
- Other owners are quietly like, “yeah, the only ones who hate these are the guys with bad grades,” which… we can all see. BroBible+1
If you want, next step we can either:
- dig into what the Jets actually scored on those report cards and where players said it sucked, or
- just treat this as one more data point in the “I don’t owe this clown my emotional investment” file and move back to stuff that doesn’t insult your intelligence" - ChatGPT
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
seems contrary to the point of a human interaction environment like a discussion forum to have the plagiarism/affirmation machine write posts for you, but maybe that’s just a pet peeve.
rockaction
Footballguy
Eh, probably just better to not.
rockaction
Footballguy
don't have to but you'll take the time to comment. Which is fine. Not everybody has to agree, but I ain't spending two more seconds on Woody. I won't do it.
rockaction
Footballguy
"woody johnson tried to get the union to stop giving the players the surveys about the organizations. i mean, i'm really cooked and pissed. that's it. punk unctuous nepstein"
rockaction
Footballguy
I'd focus on the substance of it. If I posted it then it's probably because I read it and found it more succinct and more intelligent than most things I could offer in twice to eight times the time.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And sometimes not adhering to strict prohibition of things is wise. In measured, moderated doses. I'm not a huge fan of automated stuff and would leave in a heartbeat if that were to dominate. The main thrust was, "I am not wasting another moment of existence worried or mad about this odious jerk. I am no longer a fan or defender of this organization headed by him."
But that comes off self-important, angry, and what jerks would mistake for delusional, so I simply allude to it. That's the humanity in the use of the machine.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And sometimes not adhering to strict prohibition of things is wise. In measured, moderated doses. I'm not a huge fan of automated stuff and would leave in a heartbeat if that were to dominate. The main thrust was, "I am not wasting another moment of existence worried or mad about this odious jerk. I am no longer a fan or defender of this organization headed by him."
But that comes off self-important, angry, and what jerks would mistake for delusional, so I simply allude to it. That's the humanity in the use of the machine.
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rockaction
Footballguy
In fact, I reported a bot today in the Dalton Schultz thread. It was messing up the time. It responded today as if the first post of the thread had just happened and it offered an analysis.
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Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Are you alright mate?
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I think it’s fine if it’s acknowledged that the wording was from a chatbot, which was the case here.seems contrary to the point of a human interaction environment like a discussion forum to have the plagiarism/affirmation machine write posts for you, but maybe that’s just a pet peeve.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
I guess my big question is what are these surveys supposed to do?
but yeah, I could see how maybe not wanting to let the players give their thoughts is seen as not a great thing but that'd very far down the totem pole of bad things people can do. Maybe Woody isn't a great guy but one of the worst human beings since he doesn't care about the thoughts of his employees?
but yeah, I could see how maybe not wanting to let the players give their thoughts is seen as not a great thing but that'd very far down the totem pole of bad things people can do. Maybe Woody isn't a great guy but one of the worst human beings since he doesn't care about the thoughts of his employees?
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, totally. I'm good.
rockaction
Footballguy
Hold on and I'll hold a place for the stories right here
This is a primer
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Bronco Billy
Footballguy
You just did
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Agree to disagree. Imagine if everyone posted topics with AI. Now imagine everyone replying to everyone using it.
Now it’s just bots arguing with bots - aka, X. lol
Chaka
Footballguy
Sorry, rock. My Chatbot disagrees with your chatbot. (hat tip to @Hot Sauce Guy for making me curious enough to ask and see the ChatBot wars first hand)
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"Who is the worst owner in the NFL?"
Here’s a balanced, reputation-based summary (not an objective ranking):
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"Who is the worst owner in the NFL?"
ChatGPT said:
“Worst owner” is subjective, and you’ll get different answers depending on whether people care most about on-field success, stability, competence, ethics, or fan experience. That said, in recent years, several NFL owners are most commonly criticized by fans, media, and former players/executives.Here’s a balanced, reputation-based summary (not an objective ranking):
Owners Most Frequently Labeled as “Worst” in Public Discussions
1. Michael Bidwill — Arizona Cardinals
Often cited recently because of:- Organizational instability (frequent coaching/GM turnover)
- Frugal spending reputation (e.g., late adoption of basic facilities upgrades)
- Poor on-field results (consistently among bottom teams)
- Workplace allegations from former employees
Many analysts currently put Bidwill at or near the bottom.
2. Mark Davis — Las Vegas Raiders
Criticisms include:- Coaching turnover (six head coaches in ~10 years)
- Questionable hiring decisions, sometimes without competitive processes
- Inconsistent on-field results, few playoff appearances
But: he is popular with some fans and players, and the move to Las Vegas was financially successful.
3. Jimmy & Dee Haslam — Cleveland Browns
Historically criticized for:- Rapid firing cycles of coaches/GMs
- Years of instability prior to 2020
- Controversial decisions, especially the fully guaranteed Deshaun Watson contract
On-field results have improved recently, softening some criticism.
4. Jerry Jones — Dallas Cowboys
A polarizing one:- Critics argue he is the GM who won’t step back, leading to a 25+ year Super Bowl drought.
- But he’s also made the Cowboys the most valuable sports franchise in the world, and they consistently field strong rosters.
He’s rarely considered “worst,” but often considered “most meddling.”
5. Daniel Snyder — Washington Commanders (historically)
Snyder sold the team in 2023, but he is often the default answer in the last 20 years:- Severe workplace misconduct findings
- Constant PR crises
- Terrible on-field results
- Fan alienation
If including the last decade, Snyder is widely regarded as the worst owner in modern NFL history.
So who is the “worst” right now?
Among current owners (post-Snyder), most NFL analysts point to Michael Bidwill as the lowest-performing owner overall due to an extended track record of:- Poor competitive results
- Cost-cutting reputation
- Internal organizational issues
- Minimal postseason success
Harjiran
Footballguy
I hate AI and I fear for future generations - I basically refuse to use it unless I'm forced to do it (at work). I'm glad I grew up when I did.
Chaka
Footballguy
AI is an incredible tool that has the ability to vastly increase productivity, knowledge and confidence in users.
Stupid people, will stupid and there is nothing we can do about that but, the potential benefits outweigh the harm.
Jewell
Footballguy
I agree with your general take, but, unfortunately, stupid people grossly outnumber smart people.
It kills me when I see obvious AI photos or videos on social media, and then I see countless commenters responding as though it’s real. AI can certainly be used for good, but I often see it used to dupe dumb people for engagement, and in the process spread misinformation that gets people more angry and polarized.
Harjiran
Footballguy
And I think it's going to decimate the workforce the next few years, with skyrocketing unemployment and societal unrest. I guess we'll see who's right.
Chaka
Footballguy
That is absolutely in the realm of potential outcomes. Then again, I think if we banned all AI today there would be a similar likelihood of skyrocketing unemployment and societal unrest.
Chaka
Footballguy
Agreed. But, that kind of engagement is happening with or without AI pics and videos. Should we ban the internet?
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
30 years ago, I thought the internet was going to make all of humankind smarter. Instead, I think it made smart people smarter and stupid people stupider. The same will likely be true of AI.
eighsse2
Footballguy
In "the little guys" versus "the man" situations I usually find myself siding with "the man", if for no other reason, just to defend the one usually being lambasted. If I'm trying to be reasonable and fair though, I can see either side on this one. On the one hand, employees should know that it isn't in their best interest to go around bashing the company that pays their bills, but on the other, it wouldn't be ideal for these "employees" to be silenced since they don't necessarily have the choice of which team they play for.
Jewell
Footballguy
I’m not calling for anything to be banned, I’m just noting one negative of AI.
And, you’re right, anger, depression, and polarization across the populace were all rising before AI, in great part, due to social media. AI being used on social media to dupe people just exacerbates that trend.
Like many technological advances, there are pros and cons to both AI and social media. Both the pros and cons of those technologies are essentially the new normal because neither of those technologies are going away.
rockaction
Footballguy
That’s funny because I’m so self-unaware and stupid that the thought you just pointed out never crossed my mind until I saw your post. Thanks for raising my consciousness.
rockaction
Footballguy
You know what's funny is that I did this months ago and it pushed Woody on me. It all depends how you prompt it and what is in its memory
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
He should run for POTUS.
Harjiran
Footballguy
This might be true - "smart" and "stupid" are fairly subjective and in some ways meaningless terms - but one thing is certain: AI will definitely make many of us a lot poorer when we lose our jobs as employers move toward AI-driven automation over the next decade.
Gatorade
Footballguy
Sounds more like a porn star
Harjiran
Footballguy
He's definitely been screwing the Jets fan base.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not the title of my sex tape.
Chaka
Footballguy
Why does it always have to be Terminators with you guys? It doesn't have to be Terminators!
Have you ever considered we might end up with a buncha Johnny Fives?
amnesiac
beer is good
HAL 9000, Skynet, Ultron… it never takes the computers long to figure out that humans are mostly awful.Why does it always have to be Terminators with you guys? It doesn't have to be Terminators!
Have you ever considered we might end up with a buncha Johnny Fives?
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
After Capella winning it several straight times I want to award this thread with the "Thread Title Of The Week" award. 
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
@rockaction …. Speech! Speech! Speech!After Capella winning it several straight times I want to award this thread with the "Thread Title Of The Week" award.
rockaction
Footballguy
@rockaction …. Speech! Speech! Speech!After Capella winning it several straight times I want to award this thread with the "Thread Title Of The Week" award.
I'm laughing and appreciate it. I couldn't figure out which emoji was appropriate, so I kept switching them. Guys, let's vow to be better to each other than Woody is to a lot of people. Oh my. Peace to you all.
beef
Footballguy
Especially the young ones. Woody was also pals with Epstein.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This one’s for @rockaction
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Couple of observations:
1 - As a citizen scientist and an artist, one of my biggest fears re: AI is the degradation of the integrity of provenance of information and data. We have already experienced nothing less than a catastrophic loss of this integrity in our society, and for a variety of reasons, *before* AI got involved. The average person is absolutely terrible with regard to noting sources and references. AI generated content is not helping in this regard. At all. Except perhaps ironically in that it is illuminating the issue I'm raising. Rock attributed the content appropriately and said hey this is AI generated right upfront. That is really important. And sorely lacking most of the time. I'm currently reviewing an essay my 13yo son wrote in school and whose teacher posted on his student profile portal thingy - and I can't tell if he is just a struggling young writer only in 7th grade or if he cheated and ran the thing thru one of these prompts. It's pretty bad but I just can't tell you know.
2 - Why even bother with the survey for the Jets? Woody just *did* the survey for them. Results are in. Can't go lower than F.
3 - Somewhere above someone was lamenting going through 15 years of this stuff and I'm thinking to myself... 1969 was 56 years ago...
4 - We already have Terminators, what we should be worried about are humans. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop... ever, until we're all dead.
1 - As a citizen scientist and an artist, one of my biggest fears re: AI is the degradation of the integrity of provenance of information and data. We have already experienced nothing less than a catastrophic loss of this integrity in our society, and for a variety of reasons, *before* AI got involved. The average person is absolutely terrible with regard to noting sources and references. AI generated content is not helping in this regard. At all. Except perhaps ironically in that it is illuminating the issue I'm raising. Rock attributed the content appropriately and said hey this is AI generated right upfront. That is really important. And sorely lacking most of the time. I'm currently reviewing an essay my 13yo son wrote in school and whose teacher posted on his student profile portal thingy - and I can't tell if he is just a struggling young writer only in 7th grade or if he cheated and ran the thing thru one of these prompts. It's pretty bad but I just can't tell you know.
2 - Why even bother with the survey for the Jets? Woody just *did* the survey for them. Results are in. Can't go lower than F.
3 - Somewhere above someone was lamenting going through 15 years of this stuff and I'm thinking to myself... 1969 was 56 years ago...
4 - We already have Terminators, what we should be worried about are humans. They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop... ever, until we're all dead.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He’s gonna use ChatGPT to write it, so…
