Errors in an email I received from a student who wants a job (1 Viewer)

[fantasycurse42]

1) 1/4 of this board = grammar nazi, which is hysterical bc who gives a #### here? The only time I'll ever criticize grammar here is when I see the insult "your an idiot." 

2) It's a soft ask for an interview or help getting one, email needs to be buttoned up & free of errors.

3) The response was ****. 

He should've done what most normal people do, which would be to ignore the email and never write back or let him know about his grammar errors and move on.

When I send a super important email, I'll reread it looking for errors 3-4 times.

If I get a cold email littered with errors from someone I know nothing about looking to network, my assumption has to be this will reflect their future work as well. 

 

[Sconch]

There's no excuse for a college graduate writing that poorly.  I'm not going to help someone that doesn't even put in some basic effort to check their grammar.

Here's all Chet had to do:

"I would absolutely like to chat with you and answer any questions you have about this business" etc etc etc

And then at the end

"Just a little advice.  There are a few grammar and spelling errors in your message.  In the future it would be to your benefit to proofread anything you send to future employers and/or people you wish to network with.  A little extra effort and attention to detail go a long way.  

Brat of luck,

Chet the Giant Gasbag"

 

[HeavyMatt04]

Here's all Chet had to do:

"I would absolutely like to chat with you and answer any questions you have about this business" etc etc etc

And then at the end

"Just a little advice.  There are a few grammar and spelling errors in your message.  In the future it would be to your benefit to proofread anything you send to future employers and/or people you wish to network with.  A little extra effort and attention to detail go a long way.  

Brat of luck,

Chet the Giant Gasbag"

That's beautiful.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Some of you guys must have more free time than you know what to do with. 

Do you just help everyone that contacts you? I'd be a tad busy if that was the case.

"Hey random college kid who I know zero about, have never met, and have zero contacts in common with - we should meet and I'd like to help you... All bc you sent me an email!"

Maybe I should send Larry Ellison a note looking to network in this world of fairytales and pixie dust.

While his response was over he top, he has zero reason and/or obligation to help this kid. 

 

[HeavyMatt04]

Some of you guys must have more free time than you know what to do with. 

Do you just help everyone that contacts you? I'd be a tad busy if that was the case.

"Hey random college kid who I know zero about, have never met, and have zero contacts in common with - we should meet and I'd like to help you... All bc you sent me an email!"

Maybe I should send Larry Ellison a note looking to network in this world of fairytales and pixie dust.

While his response was over he top, he has zero reason and/or obligation to help this kid. 

This doesn't have to be about you.

 

[money.never.sleeps]

Some of you guys must have more free time than you know what to with

Dude.. you have over 21,000 post 

 

[cstu]

Smart people make mistakes all of the time.  It's called being human. The OP himself wasn't grammatically perfect in his response.  

However, a person that finds it appropriate to decline the opportunity to positively impact the course of a young college students life SOLELY because of a couple grammatical errors needs to have their moral barometer checked.  He could have easily taken the time to meet with the student--and during that meeting mention the shortcomings of his grammar (and how it needs to be improved). That would have been the proper and gentlemanly way to have handled the situation.   

That email wasn't a simple grammar mistake, it was sent without any concern about how the recipient would view it.  Frankly, I find it insulting.

 

[cstu]

1) 1/4 of this board = grammar nazi, which is hysterical bc who gives a #### here? The only time I'll ever criticize grammar here is when I see the insult "your an idiot." 

2) It's a soft ask for an interview or help getting one, email needs to be buttoned up & free of errors.

3) The response was ****. 

He should've done what most normal people do, which would be to ignore the email and never write back or let him know about his grammar errors and move on.

When I send a super important email, I'll reread it looking for errors 3-4 times.

If I get a cold email littered with errors from someone I know nothing about looking to network, my assumption has to be this will reflect their future work as well. 

 

[AcerFC]

Lol

You dont know how to talk to a guy that is dying but you can be a #### to some 20 year old. Well done

 

[fred_1_15301]

I can't believe your ####### proud of this thread.

 

[Sconch]

I can't believe your ####### proud of this thread.

Fred, meet Chet.

 

[[scooter]]

Maybe if the kid had a brain tumor you would have treated him a little better.

 

[Skipdog77]

I see, nothing wrong, with the overuse, of commas. 

They help me catch my breath while I'm reading.

 

[Sebowski]

Your last sentence needs work, Chet.

I both his email and his post

 

[Donkey Derp]

I don't have a problem with Chet's response.  College student has one chance to make a good first impression and he was too lazy to check his grammar.  

 

[Plorfu]

My name is XXXXXXXX I’m an XXXXXXX here at XXXXXXXX.... you went through here at Ivey 

Dear chet,

If you're going to mask the name of the school, please note that you need to keep masking it through your entire response. Your attention to detail, or lack thereof, is alarming.

XOXO

The FFA

 

[ChiefD]

You guys know that was not a real email, yes?

 

[AAABatteries]

Dear chet,

If you're going to mask the name of the school, please note that you need to keep masking it through your entire response. Your attention to detail, or lack thereof, is alarming.

XOXO

The FFA

I didn't understand why he had to censor University of Phoenix anyway.  He should be proud.

 

[Donkey Derp]

Dear chet,

If you're going to mask the name of the school, please note that you need to keep masking it through your entire response. Your attention to detail, or lack thereof, is alarming.

XOXO

The FFA

Chet already had a job and probably makes his superiors a #### load of money.  That's all that matter.

College student's only job is to not screw up his first and probably only impression.  How lazy is that kid he can't spell check for a chance at a job?

 

[skol asylum]

Dodged a bullet here. Him, not you.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Lotta angry old geezers still trying their darndest to hold those millenials down I see. Nice to see nothing has changed here in the good old FFA.

 

[cstu]

Lotta angry old geezers still trying their darndest to hold those millenials down I see. Nice to see nothing has changed here in the good old FFA.

When I applied for job a couple of years ago I read my emails to the owner twice before I sent them.  It's just common sense to not look like an idiot when you're trying to get a job.

 

[Mr. Ected]

Also, last sentence in your response is borderline run-on. There should probably be a comma between "analysts" and "so".

I was thinking it was more semi-colon than comma, but whatever.

Did I miss something, or are we just assuming it was a male applicant?

Anyway, I conducted an interview where the person handed me a cover letter when they sat down.  The second sentence was something like "I would love the opportunity to work at XYZ this summer."  The problem was, XYZ was the name of a competitor, and not our company.

Now, at this point, the interview is obviously over in my head, but I decided not to make things awkward.  I just conducted the interview like normal but then just put them in the 'no' pile.  Maybe I should have gone Chet style?

It was Toronto, everyone knows it's YYZ not XYZ!

 

[Sconch]

I don't have a problem with Chet's response.  College student has one chance to make a good first impression and he was too lazy to check his grammar.  

"one chance to make a good first impression" 

God that's a stupid saying.  

 

[Sconch]

When I applied for job a couple of years ago I read my emails to the owner twice before I sent them.  It's just common sense to not look like an idiot when you're trying to get a job.

Was the kid applying for the job?

 

[Donkey Derp]

"one chance to make a good first impression" 

God that's a stupid saying.  

Have you ever applied for a real job?  Doesn't sound like it.

 

[ShamrockPride]

When I applied for job a couple of years ago I read my emails to the owner twice before I sent them.  It's just common sense to not look like an idiot when you're trying to get a job.

The dude went to school in ATL, and managed to land some nice job in the middle of Toronto. I'll let the track record speak, and not a couple grammatical errors in an otherwise finely formed email. Just my  .

 

[fantasycurse42]

When I applied for job a couple of years ago I read my emails to the owner twice before I sent them.  It's just common sense to not look like an idiot when you're trying to get a job.

I wanted an offer so bad from my current employer, after I proofread most of my more detailed correspondences (mainly thank you letters) 3-4x, I had some family members read them over as well. 

His response was aggressive and I don't know why he didn't just ignore the email, but the outrage in here is pretty funny.

 

[fantasycurse42]

The dude went to school in ATL, and managed to land some nice job in the middle of Toronto. I'll let the track record speak, and not a couple grammatical errors in an otherwise finely formed email. Just my  .

So the aspirations of American college students should be to head to Canada?

Edit: Reread the OP - the kid had an internship in Canada this summer, far from landing a nice job.

 

[Donkey Derp]

I wanted an offer so bad from my current employer, after I proofread most of my more detailed correspondences (mainly thank you letters) 3-4x, I had some family members read them over as well. 

His response was aggressive and I don't know why he didn't just ignore the email, but the outrage in here is pretty funny.

The average salary of people defending the college student can't be very high.  

Money attracts talent.  I'm not hiring someone who isn't bright enough to know their competition is proof reading their emails / applications for errors.

 

[Sconch]

Have you ever applied for a real job?  Doesn't sound like it.

I have applied for a real job and you're right.

Interviewer 1: This next guy, Mr. sconch,  looks great.  Awesome qualifications.

Interviewer 2: And how.  Lots of experience too.  Send him in.

Me: Nice to finally meet the two of yo...

Interviewer 1: You've got spinach in your teeth.  Get the #### out.

Me:  What?  I just had a salad..

Interviewer 2: NOW, loser.

 

[Sconch]

And  @ "real job".

 

[ShamrockPride]

So the aspirations of American college students should be to head to Canada?

Edit: Reread the OP - the kid had an internship in Canada this summer, far from landing a nice job.

How many people you think he beat out for that internship?

 

[Donkey Derp]

I have applied for a real job and you're right.

Interviewer 1: This next guy, Mr. sconch,  looks great.  Awesome qualifications.

Interviewer 2: And how.  Lots of experience too.  Send him in.

Me: Nice to finally meet the two of yo...

Interviewer 1: You've got spinach in your teeth.  Get the #### out.

Me:  What?  I just had a salad..

Interviewer 2: NOW, loser.

Why wouldn't you double check that you don't look like a slob before going in for an interview?  

 

[fantasycurse42]

How many people you think he beat out for that internship?

With the information I have, no clue.

What I do know is it was an internship, probably 10-14 weeks, no pay, ##### work, and basically the polar opposite of a landing a nice job. Getting an internship for any half-wit college kid is far from splitting the atom.

 

[TheChampsWin]

OP should be glad he didn't post this on reddit. 

 

[Donkey Derp]

And  @ "real job".

It sounds like I was correct.  You don't have a "real" job where you actually had a high number of qualified applications interested in  the same position.  

 

[Sconch]

It sounds like I was correct.  You don't have a "real" job where you actually had a high number of qualified applications interested in  the same position.  

This is odd.

 

[RandyDB]

Chet is just shining us all on.

 

[Hilts]

Harsh but fair response from Chet. Yeah he was a jerk when he didn't need to be but the world is full of those. Kid made a mistake and can't really get mad at Chet for being called out.

 

[ghostguy123]

All i read from your response was the first sentence.  You missed a coma.  So awesome.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

Totally agree with the sentiment but the tone is about 35% too harsh.

No, it isn't.  The guy is supposed to be a college student, not a third-grader.

 

[chet]

Apparently, some of you doubt that he was fishing for a job.  Here's his response:

I can only imagine how appalled you were at my first message. I sincerely apologize for all the grammatical errors you had to read.  I am aware there is no excuse for the mistakes I just made, but[SIZE=10pt] please know this is not indicative of any work that I would submit should I join your analyst team.  If there is any chance I could change your mind, I would relish the[/SIZE] opportunity to do so.  At the very least, I appreciate you taking the time to read my email and craft a response.  Although I understand how important first impressions are in any industry, I truly hope you will reconsider and allow me to wipe the slate clean.

 

[Hilts]

I'll give the kid credit for owning his error and still hustling/asking despite getting crapped on. There are worse skills to hire.

 

[chet]

I'll give the kid credit for owning his error and still hustling/asking despite getting crapped on. There are worse skills to hire.

True, but there are hundreds of kids who'd never make any kind of error in an introductory email who also want to get hired.  Those kids will be in the mix for an interview.  The kid who doesn't know the difference between your and you're will be disqualified immediately.  

 

[ghostguy123]

What about someone who doesn't know when to use a comma before the word "and" when criticizing someone elses grammar?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

The average salary of people defending the college student can't be very high.  

Money attracts talent.  I'm not hiring someone who isn't bright enough to know their competition is proof reading their emails / applications for errors.

Yes--you must obviously be right.  It only makes sense that low salaried people would find it approrpriate to help out a motivated college student that happens to need some improvement in his/her  grammar.  The fact that a college student took the time to reach out to somebody that he respected and admired for pointers and advice is more telling than a few grammatical errors.   I can tell you that as the manager of a multi-million dollar business from the time I was 24 years old, to being a landlord of four fully paid off properties by the time I was 35 years old--you can't teach hustle and motivation.  However, one can teach somebody to improve their spelling and grammar.   To completely rule out a person that has shown attributes of motivation and hustle SOLELY for spelling and grammatical reasons is absurd morally, and shows little to no business sense.  Just read the OP's own posts in this very thread. Many other posters have vouched for his success--and it is clear that his grammar is far from perfect.   

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

What about someone who doesn't know when to use a comma before the word "and" when criticizing someone elses grammar?

Heh.

 

[parasaurolophus]

Could be worse when i asked a guy last week during an interview why he left his last employer he said it was because they treated him like an office ##### as in rhymes with ditch if ##### doesnt make it through filter i skipped punctuation in honor of chet

 

[The Future Champs]

I was pretty tickled that on the homeless guy's sign to repent he spelled judgment correctly. Probably places him in the top 2% of the country barring auto-correct. If I see him again, I'll grab his resume.

Overall, though, I'm on chet's side. Do you want to be a professional? Be professional.

Nah, gotta disagree gb.   There's an unwritten definition of "professional" that should be taught to all students: "Nothing, of your personality or your conduct, should interfere with doing business."   Chet clearly indulged himself here by acting like an #######, and that's not professional.

Has anyone met Chet IRL?   If not, I'd guess that Chet is a troll and a phony.