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The Titans have no intention of paying him that kind of money. And if he gets hurt while he's in their facilities they'll be on the hook for a good portion of it. And let's face it, the guy plays with pain, but he seems to get hurt just brushing his teeth.
I am sure there are provisions in the contract that was signed willfully by both parties that allow the team to do this if they want to. Both sides are honoring the contract.
The Titans are a cancer.
No. He's publicly stated that he expects to play 3 or 4 more years.Someone (Ravens) will be only too happy to sign him. Reunite him with Mason.
McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. SomeI'm waiting for everybody who #####ed about TO to come in here and take McNair's side.
As far as I can tell only the base salary can be restructured so the cap reduction will be maximum 7-8 million this year (assuming a 7 year extension and no new money). That would probably allow the Titans to resign 'Brad Hopkins.What we do not know is what McNair is demanding in new money up front and for the future years over which to spread the SB. Suppose he is asking for a 30 million SB with base salaries every year of 9-10 million for a four year contract.McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
Where does it say McNair is asking for anything?As far as I can tell only the base salary can be restructured so the cap reduction will be maximum 7-8 million this year (assuming a 7 year extension and no new money). That would probably allow the Titans to resign 'Brad Hopkins.What we do not know is what McNair is demanding in new money up front and for the future years over which to spread the SB. Suppose he is asking for a 30 million SB with base salaries every year of 9-10 million for a four year contract.McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
Would you pay that?
He could also be asking for reasonable money that will not cripple the Titans if he hangs them up in a few or is cut - but if that were the case - why would the Titans resort to this?
I don't remember what he did.I would say like Javon Walker.
Anquan Boldin signed a contract and one year later asked for it to renegotiated.
Javon Walker signed a contract and 3 years later asked for it to be renegotiated.Boldin fits your criteria, of a player signing a contract and then one year later deciding he doesn't like it and asking for more.
Both are asking to have a deal reworked that they signed.From what I understand, McNair is just asking the team honor the contract they signed.
The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
I'm not sure what you're saying. From what I understand, I believe McNair is owed that money and the Titans are wrong in sending him home. I think the organization is in the wrong here.The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
I think we agree.I'm not sure what you're saying. From what I understand, I believe McNair is owed that money and the Titans are wrong in sending him home. I think the organization is in the wrong here.The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
FWIW - I think that both sides should honor a contract once it's signed.
I think so too.I think we agree.I'm not sure what you're saying. From what I understand, I believe McNair is owed that money and the Titans are wrong in sending him home. I think the organization is in the wrong here.The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
FWIW - I think that both sides should honor a contract once it's signed.
They don't owe him $24 million. They would owe him that much if he played next season w/o redoing his deal. That is where the problem lies. Mcnair knew exactly how much gauranteed money was in the deal each time he reworked it. Both parties are honoring the contract.
McNair is not technically "due" $24 million. His salary for this year is slated to be $10 million IIRC. The balance is cap accounting hits that the team incurred by playing shennigans with his contract. Everyone and their brother knows that NFL contracts rarely get paid out in full, so players and agents have to look at things with a grain of salt.Somehow, there was a whacky contract clause that would have paid McNair some ungodly amount of money ($50 million) if they picked up a 3-year bonus earlier this offseason. Instead, the team bought out the remainder of the contract for $1 million (which was a term of the contract). That leaves McNair with his $10 million deal for this upcoming season only and leaves Tennessee with a huge salary cap number because the contract as written was based on having 4 more years to fulfill the terms, bonuses, and conditions but now has to be recalculated for cap accounting purposes and dumped into 2006 all at once.
Link?McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
TO and Drew said they wanted to renegotiate the contract.
Because it is a business. What people fail to realize is that not only is it a business to the NFL Teams, but also to the NFL Players.As far as I can tell only the base salary can be restructured so the cap reduction will be maximum 7-8 million this year (assuming a 7 year extension and no new money). That would probably allow the Titans to resign 'Brad Hopkins.What we do not know is what McNair is demanding in new money up front and for the future years over which to spread the SB. Suppose he is asking for a 30 million SB with base salaries every year of 9-10 million for a four year contract.McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
Would you pay that?
He could also be asking for reasonable money that will not cripple the Titans if he hangs them up in a few or is cut - but if that were the case - why would the Titans resort to this?
The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
Boldin was also playing on a second round rookie contract, which is going to be slotted based on what other picks around him are getting. He then goes out and posts 1500 yards...then AZ drafts Fitz and pays him top 5 pick money. So now it's Boldin's fault that AZ took him in the second round rather than the top 5???
Well actually both players and NFL teams can try and renegotiate contracts. But I feel that the owners have the leverage on their side. If a team tries to renegotiate and the player won't budge then they can release the player. If the player tries to renegotiate and the team won't budge than the player doesn't have much else they can do but to holdout. But if they do this they still won't get paid when they are holding out.The Titans signed a contract. They asked McNair to renegotiate it several times in the past and he has. There is an existing contract in place right now - the Titans sent him home because they want to reduce the amount of money they feel he deserves at this point. They are under the cap right now, no? So management is allowed to reneg, but players cant??McNair is asking them to pay him what he's owed on his contract. The team wants to renegotiate because he's owed more money than they can afford.That's completely different than a player that signs a contract and then one year later doesn't like it so he asks for more.Exactly. Some
"Tom, you know you coulda thrown that ball right over there."
See how helpful he is? You don't get that kind of advice just anywhere.
"Thanks Drew, but I prefer throwing it to the guys on offense."
"Well maybe if you held on to the ball a bit longer the guys would have been open. That always worked for me. And you know, have you considered maybe not moving around so much? I always felt I threw better if I stood real still for a few seconds..."
"Uh, sure Drew. Thanks."
This goes to Andy as wellMcNairs contract is - since the 50M option was not paid - in it's final year. You cannot lower the cap number in the final year of a contract - unless you extend it.
