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shows why those post draft grades are meaningless the day after it happens.i remember millen getting A's almost every year on those.
And in a couple years they'll have to redo the redo...shows why those post draft grades are meaningless the day after it happens.i remember millen getting A's almost every year on those.
They can redo it right now. Most glaring: Merriman @ 1, Pacman Jones @ 20, and Vincent Jackson @ 28.
I agree with the last two, but how can you say Merrriman is questionably at #1. Who would you have there? Ware is the only other guy I think you can make a case for.I don't personally care for Merriman, but you can't argue against his elite talent.I'd say Kaczur going in the first a huge stretch. I think he's being way overrated. Heck, a lot of Pats fans feel he is the weakest link on the line and feel NE might draft a guy like Clady to replace him.
Kaczur is horrible. He got owned consistently except for a few games where he played really well. He got absolutely destroyed in the Superbowl and left Brady on his back on more than one occassion. I actually wondered why they didn't play Ryan O'Callaghan, who for a 5th round pick has far outplayed Nick.
Ware is exactly the pick for 1.01. Aside from being a handful of sacks behind Merriman he has better stats in every other category including tackles and forced fumbles. [hijack] He also has done that without any suspensions which would lead a reasonable person to question his high level of production moving forward. [/hijack] I'm not saying Merriman is a bad player, I'm just saying that knowing what we now know he should not be the redo 1st overall selection.I would also take Lofa Tatupu, Jammal Brown, and maybe even Trent Cole in a redo before Merriman. Cole has developed but he wasn't as productive from day 1 so his case probably falls short looking over the past 3 years...but I'd rather have him now.
I think Derrick Johnson and Marion Barber are the steals of the redo. I have no idea why those two guys are so low in the redo.Kleck said:And in a couple years they'll have to redo the redo...billymays said:shows why those post draft grades are meaningless the day after it happens.i remember millen getting A's almost every year on those.{Syrus} said:
Bush is a solid "scat back" that would never go that early in a re-do. Bush was over-hyped. Charles Rogers was lazy and had drug issues since high school and at MSU, Charles got away with it in college because he was just better than the defenses, in the NFL his lack of effort destroyed him..ditto for Mike Williams.Alex Smith would not go in the first rd in a redo..IMO
Yep. Same thing with the Browns and Braylon Edwards.No reason to change either of those picks.
Two solid, but not great players who would be starters on the Texans. Rolle would man a safety position and Ruud would pair with Ryans. Munoz was not drafted largely because of injury and never even entered an NFL training camp. Ellison is barely hanging on as a back-up/pratice squad player.
Not too shabby for a guy that the shark pool seems convinced is on the hot seat every year.
I thought the same exact thing...Jacobs over Patterson would be a mistake.
We could easily justify Braylon going 1.01, but overall I agree with your point. Braylon is nowhere near a bad pick.
Really? Based on what we know now?Ware may be the best player in the game and Merriman is right there with him but perhaps just as importantly they've both been playing at or close to pro-bowl level for three seasons now. Edwards had a great year, but let's try not to forget it was just one year.Nobody could easily justify Edwards production thus far has been anywhere near the production of Ware/Merriman to me.
um, what?
You can disagree, but don't pretend that it's unbelievable. I'm judging this partly based on the reality of whether the pick might have been made at the time. Simply put, there was no chance Ware or Merriman would have been taken #1 overall.WRs are valued higher than LBs, at least in the draft. Braylon has shown that he has elite ability. Ware/Merriman may have been more productive, but when the positions are valued differently, the very good player at the more valued position will often be taken higher than the great player at a position valued lower. (we can argue whether LBs should be valued higher, but that won't change the way GMs appear to value them)When is the last time a LB went #1 overall? (to save you time, 1988)How many LBs have been top 10 picks since 2000? (Arrington, Urlacher, Hawk, Sims, and Suggs if you count him) Only Arrington was top 3 back in 2000. Granted, the last time a WR went #1 overall was 1996, but 15 have gone top 10 since 2000, 5 have gone top 3. In fact, aside from 2006 a WR has been taken top 3 in every draft since 2003
Why? That's not what this thread is about.
:whoosh: J/K good buddy.
thanks for sharing!
