ESPN reporting that Ricky Williams is retiring (1 Viewer)

[Footballhead]

Other than Onterrio/Bennet, consider William Green and Willis McGahee. If McGahee is healthy, would Miami give an arm and a leg to get him?

 

[Wingnut]

Did you just hear that sound?? It was Chambers, McMichael, and Boston dropping like a stone in my rankings.

 

[PhillySwampAss]

Other than Onterrio/Bennet, consider William Green and Willis McGahee. If McGahee is healthy, would Miami give an arm and a leg to get him?

Very good offshoot! No way do the Bills trade to Miami so I think you can kill that avenue, but Onterrio Smith could be a nice fit. Maybe Barry Sanders...just kidding!

 

[moderated]

He has chosen maryjane over football. That's the bottom line.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Did you just hear that sound?? It was Chambers, McMichael, and Boston dropping like a stone in my rankings.

 

[OutlawsGM]

Did you just hear that sound?? It was Chambers, McMichael, and Boston dropping like a stone in my rankings.

Exactly.

 

[NYRAGE]

God, what a great off-season. This is sweet!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CSH]

McGahee to Miami would be fitting, but Buffalo would never do such a thing while the Dolphins are down.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Other than Onterrio/Bennet, consider William Green and Willis McGahee. If McGahee is healthy, would Miami give an arm and a leg to get him?

It's very late in the season to make trades...especially for salary cap implications.Possible RBs on the marketMoe Williams/Michael Bennett/Onterrio Smith -- possibleLee Suggs/William Green -- possibleTravis Henry/Willis MacGahee seems unrealistic because of the divisionLaMont Jordan? Not likelyAny of the Oakland RBs--Norv Turner connection--very possiblePerry/Rudi Johnson -- seems early to trade eitherLarry Johnson -- not sure why KC does thisI suppose we'll hear lots of names suggested--but realistically, Miami will probably just suck it up and go with what they have. Or sign a low-level FA, or James Stewart. I don't think we'll see a big trade here, but you never know.

 

[David Yudkin]

Hmmm . . . who out there is:- Slow- Plodding- Potentially available- Runs between the tackles- Out of a starting job- Could be had for cheapCHOO! CHOO! Could it be the A-Train????

 

[Footballhead]

Funny, in a thread regarding Ricky Williams not a while ago, I mentioned how Ricky was a risk, and I quote myself "One of these days Ricky is going to wake up and decide to become a women"...no one took it seriously.

 

[Sweet Love]

I just looked at the depth charts....who in the world will they start?I'm guessing they got to go out and pick someone up.Anyone know the situation over there more know what they will do now?

Who's out there?

I'm guessing they call Minnesota and offer O-Gun and the FARM for any of the Minny RB.

Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner!Minny is one of the only squads that has depth of "upside" RBs. I also am curious whether any Travis Henry rumors float around. If not, You have to think that McGahee is NOT ready...EDIT: forgot about the Cincy RBs, but I do not see Marv moving either of those guys yet.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Most people encouraged Williams to continue playing for the money so he can support his three young children. But Williams, who has talked in the past about returning to college to get a postgraduate degree in psychology, dismissed the need for money, even for his children.''I've had no money before,'' he said. ``People are worried about the future of my children, but a child doesn't need much to be happy -- needs food, a change of clothes and for you to pay attention to him. A bottle of baby food costs 79 cents. I have that much.''

:rotflmao: Seriously though, good for Ricky. If his heart isn't into it, props for being able to look 3.5 million in the face and say, "that's alright, I'd rather hang out in Asia and smoke cheeba."

 

[packersfan]

One guy the Dolphins could pursue is Najeh Davenport. The Packers are 3-deep at RB with Green, Davenport and Fisher so as much as Davenport offers as Green's backup, he is someone the team could part with since Fisher is more than capable of being the No. 2 RB on the depth chart.

 

[Sweet Love]

One guy the Dolphins could pursue is Najeh Davenport. The Packers are 3-deep at RB with Green, Davenport and Fisher so as much as Davenport offers as Green's backup, he is someone the team could part with since Fisher is more than capable of being the No. 2 RB on the depth chart.

Plus he can poop like madman.

 

[Wingnut]

Cutting off the dreadlocks has something to do with this.His scalp being exposed to the elements has taken a quick, brutal toll on his thinking.To keep from pulling all the jerseys and Ricky merchandise off the shelves, why dont they call Dungy about a trade for the OTHER R Williams....Maybe no one will notice.

 

[gman8343]

Hmmm . . . who out there is:- Slow- Plodding- Potentially available- Runs between the tackles- Out of a starting job- Could be had for cheapCHOO! CHOO! Could it be the A-Train????

I actually like this for MIA if they can get him cheap. Thomas is underrated IMO, not great but pretty solid. No one gives him credit but he does have a second gear, I watched him run when he was healthy last year and at times he looked great.Don't think CHI would give him up though leaving them with T. Jones who could easily fall flat on his face.

 

[Wingnut]

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[Sweet Love]

To keep from pulling all the jerseys and Ricky merchandise off the shelves, why dont they call Dungy about a trade for the OTHER R Williams....Maybe no one will notice.

Excellent point!!! Miami is shady enough to try to pull it off!!

 

[Chase Stuart]

Anyone know the salary implications of a trade? I know the signing bonus would be accelerated for the team that trades the RB, but does it count half this and half next?

 

[bentley2]

Surely Oakland won't keep all those running backs. The loser(s) there seem like a potential option.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

wow just saw this on espn. This is Bary Sanders-lite. Guess he's off his meds...

 

[tommyGunZ]

Guess he's off his meds...

Nope, it's the opposite. He's about to be on the meds, big-time, for awhile.

 

[Red Hot Tamales]

Most people encouraged Williams to continue playing for the money so he can support his three young children. But Williams, who has talked in the past about returning to college to get a postgraduate degree in psychology, dismissed the need for money, even for his children.''I've had no money before,'' he said. ``People are worried about the future of my children, but a child doesn't need much to be happy -- needs food, a change of clothes and for you to pay attention to him. A bottle of baby food costs 79 cents. I have that much.''

:rotflmao: Seriously though, good for Ricky. If his heart isn't into it, props for being able to look 3.5 million in the face and say, "that's alright, I'd rather hang out in Asia and smoke cheeba."

My sentiments exactly. Ricky just won't let the game play him. Good for him.Also, fusing together thoughts from another thread about the number of hits Ricky has taken in the past few years, I wonder if he saw what life is like for fellow UT alum Earl Campbell. Maybe Ricky does not want to end up like Earl.

 

[Footballhead]

If Ricky has been thinking about it for months, why the #### did he not mention this before the 2004 NFL draft. He could have save the fish some trouble.

 

[J-Co]

So, is it safe to assume that Tricky Ricky is calling it quits so he can get on with that sex change operation ASAP?

 

[Wingnut]

http://www.run-ricky-run.com/

Maybe he will update his journal with the whole story.

 

[SammyJankis]

Most people encouraged Williams to continue playing for the money so he can support his three young children. But Williams, who has talked in the past about returning to college to get a postgraduate degree in psychology, dismissed the need for money, even for his children.

''I've had no money before,'' he said. ``People are worried about the future of my children, but a child doesn't need much to be happy -- needs food, a change of clothes and for you to pay attention to him. A bottle of baby food costs 79 cents. I have that much.''

:rotflmao: Seriously though, good for Ricky. If his heart isn't into it, props for being able to look 3.5 million in the face and say, "that's alright, I'd rather hang out in Asia and smoke cheeba."

My sentiments exactly. Ricky just won't let the game play him. Good for him.

Also, fusing together thoughts from another thread about the number of hits Ricky has taken in the past few years, I wonder if he saw what life is like for fellow UT alum Earl Campbell. Maybe Ricky does not want to end up like Earl.

I've got to strongly disagree with the "good for him' mentality. The man decided to retire a week before training camp. Maybe his heart isn't in it. Maybe he doesn't love the game anymore. But the fact is, the Miami Dolphins committed big time draft picks and a lot of money to this guy. He had teammates that were counting on him.If Ricky Williams felt this way, he's had a year to let them know how he feels. Surely the Dolphins either draft a RB or sign a free agent, most likely both. Its clear that the Dolphins are up the creek without him. Good for him? Is it good for Dave Wandstadt's job security? Is it good for AJ Feeley's chances of breaking out? Is it good for the Dolphins's season ticket fan that invested their hard earned money with an expectation that the Dolphins would be contenders?

Whether his heart was in it or no, he waits until a week before training camp, he should have sucked it up and played. This is like being someone being engaged, knowing their heart wasn't in it and leaving their husband/wife to be at the altar.

Good for him? Nuts to him. This stinks.

 

[J-Co]

......soon to be http://www.toke-ricky-toke.com/

 

[RAIDERNATION.]

Even though this is a big surprise, if you ran a poll here asking "Which of the top 20 RBs in the NFL is most likely to retire unexpectedly?".... Williams would probably be the choice. He is a flaky, free-spirited lettuce smoker.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Most people encouraged Williams to continue playing for the money so he can support his three young children. But Williams, who has talked in the past about returning to college to get a postgraduate degree in psychology, dismissed the need for money, even for his children.

''I've had no money before,'' he said. ``People are worried about the future of my children, but a child doesn't need much to be happy -- needs food, a change of clothes and for you to pay attention to him. A bottle of baby food costs 79 cents. I have that much.''

:rotflmao: Seriously though, good for Ricky. If his heart isn't into it, props for being able to look 3.5 million in the face and say, "that's alright, I'd rather hang out in Asia and smoke cheeba."

My sentiments exactly. Ricky just won't let the game play him. Good for him.

Also, fusing together thoughts from another thread about the number of hits Ricky has taken in the past few years, I wonder if he saw what life is like for fellow UT alum Earl Campbell. Maybe Ricky does not want to end up like Earl.

I've got to strongly disagree with the "good for him' mentality. The man decided to retire a week before training camp. Maybe his heart isn't in it. Maybe he doesn't love the game anymore. But the fact is, the Miami Dolphins committed big time draft picks and a lot of money to this guy. He had teammates that were counting on him.If Ricky Williams felt this way, he's had a year to let them know how he feels. Surely the Dolphins either draft a RB or sign a free agent, most likely both. Its clear that the Dolphins are up the creek without him. Good for him? Is it good for Dave Wandstadt's job security? Is it good for AJ Feeley's chances of breaking out? Is it good for the Dolphins's season ticket fan that invested their hard earned money with an expectation that the Dolphins would be contenders?

Whether his heart was in it or no, he waits until a week before training camp, he should have sucked it up and played. This is like being someone being engaged, knowing their heart wasn't in it and leaving their husband/wife to be at the altar.

Good for him? Nuts to him. This stinks.

I find it hard to disagree with you here. Very Barry Sanders-like. IIRC, he retired within a day or two of TC opening.Perhaps there's more than meets the eye.

 

[Sweet Love]

J-E-T-S, Jets, Jets, Jets!!!

 

[DonnyT33]

Holy moley.This is unbelieveable.Its official: Hes nuts.

its part of his religion to smoke weed and they took it from here, what would you do? LOL but?

 

[Biabreakable]

This is astonishing.My league members are going to hate me even more now.I traded Ricky Williams and Kelley Campbell for Torry Holt and a 1st round rookie pick a couple months ago. How was I to know Ricky would do this??I think you guys are dismissing Travis Minor too quickly. He is a quality RB. Looks like Wanny is going to have to accept that. He is the best thing they have.I knew I was holding on to him for a reason.

 

[JohnnyU]

I traded him and Minor a couple weeks ago for Faulk (I have Jackson), Andre Davis, L Gordon, and the 2005 and 2006 1st rd picks. Rock 'n Roll

 

[cosjobs]

Anyone have Ricky Watters phone number?

 

[sts911911]

If Ricky has been thinking about it for months, why the #### did he not mention this before the 2004 NFL draft. He could have save the fish some trouble.

From what sportscenter said it sounded like Ricky did tell the dolphins about this possibility months ago. He just didn't fully committ to retiring at that point. If I was the dolphins I think you would of had a backup plan put into place if this is true. If your star RB is talking about retiring you should do something rather than just crossing your fingers hoping he doesn't.... once again it sounded this way from sportscenter, maybe Ricky didn't tell the dophins about this possibility months ago.

 

[mad sweeney]

i agree with ricky being very selfish in this. those big salaries he's been collecting come from playing for the fans. he's done his teammates, coaches, and fans a great injustice by walking out now. maybe it's best for his head, but this was not the classy way to go out. i've lost a lot of the respect i had for him as an athlete. you don't do that to your team.

 

[SammyJankis]

There was a crappy show on CBS a couple of years back called "Early Edition". I caught all of one episode when I was killing time at a friend's house. The premise was that the main character magically got tomorrow's newspaper delivered to his house a day early, thus he knew what would happen one day into the future.Any Ricky Williams dynasty owners wish they had that magic newspaper?

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

Society and the NFL say he can't smoke marijuana, for example, and that's one of the many rules of his confining workplace he will no longer abide. He says without apology he has gotten around NFL drug tests with a special liquid players all over the league consume by the gallon before tests to avoid detection. He says he simply didn't drink it before getting busted in 2002, and that he still hasn't heard on his appeal of a second failed test, but that the recent marijuana issues have nothing to do with his decision to retire beyond confirming how stifling celebrity can be and how ill-fitting the NFL is for him.

Link

 

[tommyGunZ]

Most people encouraged Williams to continue playing for the money so he can support his three young children. But Williams, who has talked in the past about returning to college to get a postgraduate degree in psychology, dismissed the need for money, even for his children.

''I've had no money before,'' he said. ``People are worried about the future of my children, but a child doesn't need much to be happy -- needs food, a change of clothes and for you to pay attention to him. A bottle of baby food costs 79 cents. I have that much.''

:rotflmao: Seriously though, good for Ricky. If his heart isn't into it, props for being able to look 3.5 million in the face and say, "that's alright, I'd rather hang out in Asia and smoke cheeba."

My sentiments exactly. Ricky just won't let the game play him. Good for him.

Also, fusing together thoughts from another thread about the number of hits Ricky has taken in the past few years, I wonder if he saw what life is like for fellow UT alum Earl Campbell. Maybe Ricky does not want to end up like Earl.

I've got to strongly disagree with the "good for him' mentality. The man decided to retire a week before training camp. Maybe his heart isn't in it. Maybe he doesn't love the game anymore. But the fact is, the Miami Dolphins committed big time draft picks and a lot of money to this guy. He had teammates that were counting on him.If Ricky Williams felt this way, he's had a year to let them know how he feels. Surely the Dolphins either draft a RB or sign a free agent, most likely both. Its clear that the Dolphins are up the creek without him. Good for him? Is it good for Dave Wandstadt's job security? Is it good for AJ Feeley's chances of breaking out? Is it good for the Dolphins's season ticket fan that invested their hard earned money with an expectation that the Dolphins would be contenders?

Whether his heart was in it or no, he waits until a week before training camp, he should have sucked it up and played. This is like being someone being engaged, knowing their heart wasn't in it and leaving their husband/wife to be at the altar.

Good for him? Nuts to him. This stinks.

So Ricky should have half-assed it for the year? For his teammates?It's a game. The Phins will find another RB. Life is short. Ricky's athletic ability has given him the opportunity to do what all of us wish we could do - retire early and live life on our own terms.

If I were a teammate of Ricky's, I'd rather have a 100% committed Travis Minor than an unhappy, "I'd rather not be here" Ricky Williams.

 

[JohnnyU]

I know I made a comment about him quitting and going to the outback, but I can't find anything on the search option. WTF? Anyway, he is a flake and most of us knew it.

 

[Chase Stuart]

1998 Detroit Lions5-11Barry Sanders - 1st in '97, 10th in '98, retired in '991998 stats: 343 carries, 1,491 yards, 4 TDs. Drop of 1.8 ypc from 1997.Lions:1998: 19th in rushing attempts, 10th in rushing yards, 3rd in YPC, 12th in RTD; 14th in total yards, 20th in points scored. No other RB had 20 carries on the season!1999: 30th in rushing attempts, 28th in rushing yards, 24th in YPC, 26th in RTD; 19th in total yards, 15th in points scored (Germane Crowell breakout year; Lions unexpectedly became a top 10 passing team).1999 Detroit Lions: 8-8.2000 Minnesota Vikings11-5Robert Smith: 23rd in '99, 7th in '00, retired in '012000 stats: 295 carries, 1,521 yards, 7 TDs2000 Vikings: 17th in rushing attempts, 6th in rushing yards, 1st in YPC, 16th in RTD; 5th in total yards and total points; Culpepper's first season. No other RB had 25 carries!2001 Vikings: 28th in rushing attempts, 25th in rushing yards, 10th in YPC, 21st in RTD; 12th in total yards, 24th in total points. Bennett was drafted to replace Smith; Culpepper got hurt; Cris Carter fell off.2001 Minnesota Vikings:5-112003 Miami Dolphins10-6Ricky Williams: 2nd in '02, 9th in '03, retired in '042003 Stats: 392 carries, 1,372 yards, 9 TDs.Dolphins:2003: 8th in rushing attempts, 17th in rushing yards, 27th in YPC, 14th in RTD; 24th in total yards, 17th in total points. Travis Minor had 41 carries, for 4.7 ypc.The Lions went from 489 pass attempts to 558--an increase of 69 passes, 12.3%The Vikings went from 495 pass attempts to 555--an increase of 60 passes, 10.8%The Dolphins had 450 attempts last year. They should pass the ball over 500 times in 2004.

 

[cracKer]

??? What league?

cracKer's favorite league. You know, with all those linebackers.

I was hoping to get our "issues" dealt with before moving along:shick!:

 

[tommyGunZ]

i agree with ricky being very selfish in this. those big salaries he's been collecting come from playing for the fans. he's done his teammates, coaches, and fans a great injustice by walking out now. maybe it's best for his head, but this was not the classy way to go out. i've lost a lot of the respect i had for him as an athlete. you don't do that to your team.

I'm confused. Ricky earned all of that money the "fans" paid him to watch him play. Ricky won't be paid this year. Ricky doesn't owe any of us ####.

 

[Bird]

Hmmm . . . who out there is:- Slow- Plodding- Potentially available- Runs between the tackles- Out of a starting job- Could be had for cheapCHOO! CHOO! Could it be the A-Train????

I just can't see Chicago parting with a very affordable five hundred and thirty five thousand dollar competent backup whom they had ZERO desire to move at draft day.

 

[Team Legacy]

he just wanted to smoke the ghanni.. the ghanni has its hooks in him...

 

[superbowlchampion]

Report: Williams tells Dolphins he will retire

LINK

July 25, 2004

MIAMI (AP) -- Ricky Williams has told the Miami Dolphins that he's retiring after just five years in the NFL, The Miami Herald reported on its Web site Sunday.

Williams said he was overjoyed by his decision.

``You can't understand how free I feel,'' Williams told the Herald in a cell phone interview Saturday before boarding a plane in Hawaii and heading to Asia to begin several months of travel.

The 27-year-old running back, who started his career with the New Orleans Saints, said he plans to file his retirement papers with the NFL on Monday or Tuesday.

Williams told Dolphins coach Dave Wannstedt of his decision Friday and said Wannstedt tried to persuade him to reconsider. Miami opens training camp Friday.

The Dolphins acquired Williams from New Orleans for two first-round draft picks in 2002, and he led the NFL in rushing that year.

Phone messages left early Sunday with two Dolphins officials and Williams' agent, Leigh Steinberg, weren't immediately returned.

``I have no comment,'' Wannstedt told the Herald when asked about Williams' retiring. ``Players report Friday. Right now, it's a 10-day dead period. We'll get everybody started on Friday.''

Wannstedt acknowledged talking with Williams but declined to give details of their conversation.

Williams said there was no chance he would change his mind.

He said he has already told his mother Sandy, Steinberg, backup running back Travis Minor and friends and family of his decision.

In May, three South Florida newspapers reported that Williams tested positive for marijuana and faced a fine of at least $650,000 for violating the league's substance-abuse policy for a second time since joining the Dolphins.

But his attorney, Gary Ostrow, told The Associated Press: ``As far as I'm concerned, there is no violation.''

Williams told the Herald his failed marijuana tests had a minor influence on his decision to retire, but was only one of many factors. It didn't cause him to retire, he said, as much as reinforce his reasons for wanting to do so.

Williams' two seasons with the Dolphins have been the best of his career. He set a team record with 1,853 yards rushing in 2002. He followed that with 1,372 yards last season.

 

[tommyGunZ]

1998 Detroit Lions5-11Barry Sanders - 1st in '97, 10th in '98, retired in '991998 stats: 343 carries, 1,491 yards, 4 TDs. Drop of 1.8 ypc from 1997.Lions:1998: 19th in rushing attempts, 10th in rushing yards, 3rd in YPC, 12th in RTD; 14th in total yards, 20th in points scored. No other RB had 20 carries on the season!1999: 30th in rushing attempts, 28th in rushing yards, 24th in YPC, 26th in RTD; 19th in total yards, 15th in points scored (Germane Crowell breakout year; Lions unexpectedly became a top 10 passing team).1999 Detroit Lions: 8-8.2000 Minnesota Vikings11-5Robert Smith: 23rd in '99, 7th in '00, retired in '012000 stats: 295 carries, 1,521 yards, 7 TDs2000 Vikings: 17th in rushing attempts, 6th in rushing yards, 1st in YPC, 16th in RTD; 5th in total yards and total points; Culpepper's first season. No other RB had 25 carries!2001 Vikings: 28th in rushing attempts, 25th in rushing yards, 10th in YPC, 21st in RTD; 12th in total yards, 24th in total points. Bennett was drafted to replace Smith; Culpepper got hurt; Cris Carter fell off.2001 Minnesota Vikings:5-112003 Miami Dolphins10-6Ricky Williams: 2nd in '02, 9th in '03, retired in '042003 Stats: 392 carries, 1,372 yards, 9 TDs.Dolphins:2003: 8th in rushing attempts, 17th in rushing yards, 27th in YPC, 14th in RTD; 24th in total yards, 17th in total points. Travis Minor had 41 carries, for 4.7 ypc.The Lions went from 489 pass attempts to 558--an increase of 69 passes, 12.3%The Vikings went from 495 pass attempts to 555--an increase of 60 passes, 10.8%The Dolphins had 450 attempts last year. They should pass the ball over 500 times in 2004.

Great post Chase.Bump Boston and Chambers up several slots on draft boards.They should be good for 15 more catches each, and 175 more yards?

 

[RAIDERNATION.]

Chris Chambers for Justin Fargas!

Makes perfect sense...