Ethics Question (1 Viewer)

[49er fan]

What if he caught on to what you were up to, and before you dropped Turbin and picked up your kicker he add and dropped every starting kicker left in the free agent pool???

yea, there's the slippery slope...thats why there needs to be a rulea few ways this can be prevented:1. add/drop limit (not a fan of that, but i've been in a league that had one)2. pay for transactions (still not a fan of that, but better than a limit)3. must keep an added player until the next week's WW process4. cannot drop a player within 48 hours before his kickoff (unless injury status is questionable or worse)...dropped players are on waivers for 24 hours...gives 24 hours for player to be picked up if not claimed on waiversany other good suggestions?

I hate #1 and #2...with #4 there is still a loophole because you can still block an owner from picking up a player by adding him then dropping him back into the WW...the owner will have a lesser chance to pick him up depending on his spot in the WW priority#3 seems like the most fair to me

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

2. pay for transactions (still not a fan of that, but better than a limit)

We implemented this a few years ago and it eliminated any problems we might have had with owners trying to game the system. That, and there aren't any dickbags in our league who pull this kind of stuff anyway.

any other good suggestions?

Get rid of waivers and use some form of blind bidding instead. It's a much more fair and fun system anyway, imo.

 

[RUSF18]

any other good suggestions?

Get rid of waivers and use some form of blind bidding instead. It's a much more fair and fun system anyway, imo.

That doesn't necessarily fix anything. We use FAAB for the first round of pickups, and then typical FCFS FA afterwards, with the dropped player going on waivers for two days or until the rosters lock for the start of the games.The very simple solution that you can definitely do on Yahoo is that for any player that a specific team picks up during the week, if that player is later dropped by the same team, he goes to free agency, not back on waivers. Being a free agent, any team can pick him up immediately.So the transaction history may look something like this:Wednesday- Rob Bironas: Signed to Team A.- Garrett Hartley: Dropped from Team A to Waivers.Sunday morning- Nate Kaeding: Signed to Team A.- Rob Bironas: Dropped from Team A to Free Agency.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

one extreme you could use is that any player you pick up must be put in your lineup for that week...but that doesn't work well for speculative picks or building depth.

 

[BaBastage]

This comes up every year. I would suggest having two rules rule in your constitution that say, to the effect :

1. "Any player claimed from waivers and dropped before the start of the weeks' games is not subject to the 24 hour waiver hold (or whatever your hold period is) process." This prevents someone from adding 100% of the kickers and immediately dropping them for the sole purpose of making someone take a zero one week.

2. "Your roster must be legal at all times". This means that if you don't have room to pick up that RB as a block, you can't do it. (You have to drop one of your own players in the process - is it worth it?)

If you're in a friendly league, then honoring the spirit of the rules and competition is more important than the letter of the law. If it's a no-holds-barred money league, then I'm surprised you haven't locked this down yet.

 

[GregR]

This comes up every year. I would suggest having two rules rule in your constitution that say, to the effect :1. "Any player claimed from waivers and dropped before the start of the weeks' games is not subject to the 24 hour waiver hold (or whatever your hold period is) process." This prevents someone from adding 100% of the kickers and immediately dropping them for the sole purpose of making someone take a zero one week.2. "Your roster must be legal at all times". This means that if you don't have room to pick up that RB as a block, you can't do it. (You have to drop one of your own players in the process - is it worth it?)If you're in a friendly league, then honoring the spirit of the rules and competition is more important than the letter of the law. If it's a no-holds-barred money league, then I'm surprised you haven't locked this down yet.

I think including it in your league's list of unethical actions that won't be tolerated is also a good idea.

 

[Instinctive]

This comes up every year. I would suggest having two rules rule in your constitution that say, to the effect :

1. "Any player claimed from waivers and dropped before the start of the weeks' games is not subject to the 24 hour waiver hold (or whatever your hold period is) process." This prevents someone from adding 100% of the kickers and immediately dropping them for the sole purpose of making someone take a zero one week.

2. "Your roster must be legal at all times". This means that if you don't have room to pick up that RB as a block, you can't do it. (You have to drop one of your own players in the process - is it worth it?)

If you're in a friendly league, then honoring the spirit of the rules and competition is more important than the letter of the law. If it's a no-holds-barred money league, then I'm surprised you haven't locked this down yet.

I hate the bolded. Let me build my team how I want. If I'd rather hold two backups to a guy to see which one gets the start and then drop the other for my only kicker ten minutes before game time, let me.I love #1 - that's how my league does it as well as having a FA pickup cost that escalates as the season goes on. (Week 1 free, week 2-4 $1, week 5-9 $2 - you get it). Like Elenchi said though, we also don't have any dickbags who roster churn.

I just think you also don't want to punish people who change their minds. What if I think I want Alex Green, but then decide two days later that I'd rather grab Alfred Morris? If he's out there, let me drop Green and pick him up. Of course, I'm always on the side that says "Roster restrictions of any kind are stupid because I think they limit a good owners ability to manage a roster."

 

[UncleZen]

In our league, any player dropped the same week he is picked up is automatically transacted back to "free agent" status so someone else can pick them up.

 

[Not Sleeping]

I haven't seen anyone else mention the approach my league uses yet. We have no free agency. All non-rostered players are always on waivers. Waivers are processed nightly at midnight. Your waiver priority is reset to #12 (in a 12 team league) after you successfully claim a player. I believe this approach has some advantages:

- Players don't get hurt only during games. It's less common, but sometimes things happen during the week. This is our league's 14th year and we remember the bad old days of having to constantly be on guard for some breaking news regarding a player, even on non-gamedays, to win the race to claim a free agent. With this approach, you just need to be diligent enough to check in once before midnight.

- You have to think twice if the player you want to pick up is worth resetting your waiver priority to last place. Most roster churning tactics are not going to be worth losing your waiver priority for.