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Ummm...nope - no league I've ever played in. Once games start for the week, rosters are locked.
What is the rationale? I.e. what bad thing results if someone cuts Demeco Ryans to pick up Lance Briggs right now, after a game has been played but not by either of them. As opposed to a few minutes before yesterday's kickoff?
let me know how that goes for you guys with Thursday night games every week this year.....I realize everybody is on the same playing field, but it seems a little crazy to have all the Sunday game players locked between Thursday night and Sunday morning.....no league I have ever played in has done it that way....have a feeling your leagues are the exception and not the rule...
FA pickups run at midnight before the first game of the week. I'm not sure what the problem with that type of system is. It stops from the silliness of "OMGZ!! Matt Forte just went down!! I've got to get to a computer a snag Bush quick!! Got 'em. LOLZ!!!1!" We're busy adults with lives. The idea that during every game in a football season we should be tuned in with a WW trigger finger ready "just in case", just seems silly. Incidentally, it works fine - we've been doing it that way for 10+ years, across several leagues with different commish's (so it's not just 1 or 2 leagues).
Having players go on waivers when THEIR game starts prevents the guy from snagging Bush...there is no reason to have players who play on Monday night be on waivers on Sunday...just like there is no reason any player should be on waivers right now other than Dallas and NYG players...whats the point of having Michael Bush on waivers just because the Cowboys and Giants played last night? Bush should be a FA up until the Chicago game kicks off...
this is the first year with Thursday night games every week.....so see how it goesbut you're missing the point....if Forte is playing in the Thursday night game.....in most leagues, all of the CHI players would be locked for the rest of the week as soon as that game kicks off Thursday night......as well as all of the guys on the team they are playing....however not the guys playing on Sunday.....so you're "Forte went down, let's race to see who gets Bush" problem is not a problem at all.....as all the Bears would all be locked...
Our league runs a waiver system. Teams with the worse record are first, allowing them first waiver priority.
I don't see how this is exclusive to a league that doesn't allow WW/FA adds between THU and SUN. I am willing to bet that you have a ton of WW adds that are reactive just like every other league.
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why not? as long as the guys team hasnt played yet. been like that forever in my league
youre clearing missing the point. in most leagues once the game starts, players for that team cant be added. for example, right now i can add anyone from any team EXCEPT for cowboys and giants.
welcome to the new shark poolthis was over a post 3. what an idiotic thread.
If you pickup a player, he must stay on your roster for one weekend at least in every league I've played in to avoid this ####.'49er fan said:
To each their own I guess. IMO leaving the wire open tends to allow teams that have 24 hour access to a computer an unfair advantage. As someone pointed out earlier, people have lives. Albeit, I'm usually at the bar when they announce the inactives. Our rules may seem a bit outdated(going back before the advent of the laptop or smart phone). It keeps the playing field even.....for everyone.'shadyridr said:
You are confusing two totally separate issues. Nothing he said entails that you can pick up Bush after Forte gets hurt.Also, you use the term "WW", but you are referring to free agency, not waivers.'DoubleG said:
the way our league works is our ww (or blind bids in our case) runs wednesday night. thats where all the hot free agent pickups of the week go. then after that its a free for all. i cant think of a single time over the years that there was a rush to the ww to grab a player AFTER our ww ran on wednesdays. people usually pick up kickers and crap like that during the free for all period
Yep screwed up rule system, but it's there so you use it if you want to.(if the other guy can't manage his own team he deserves it as well)My leagues we play either no waiver system but the player pool opens every Tuesday at 8:00pm, or waivers to start the week but none after that for anplayer pickup that week or a drop of a player that you picked up that week.And all teams players lock at the start of THERE game, not someone elses start.'Stinkin Ref said:threads like this come up every year.....the problem is not whether you are a #### or not, the problem is with your league rules/set up...if your rules/set up allow for things like this to happen then you'd be dumb not to take advantage of it....many will come in here and pound their chest about not wanting to play in leagues with guys like that and it's not in the spirit of the game, etc.....but if the bottom line is winning you do what you got to do....karma, all that, whatever....it sometimes takes things like this to initiate change....you could be looked at as a leader for helping to make your league better in the long run even though it looks like a ######## way of doing it....eta: dude should have picked Turbin up already.....
You obviously don't understand the question. IT TAKES NO ROSTER SPOTS.
Oh no, I do understand. You did not understand me. I went on to say what i would do, if i could.but back to the discussion.
What you would do "if you had the roster spots."It doesn't take *any* roster spots to do what this thread is about. So knock yourself out! Lock out every backup on your opponent's roster every week all season long. Do the same for all the teams who are competitive with you for a playoff spot as well. Leave only the backups of those teams that you want to win because it helps you.
OK, I see, and I think that's all correct. I do that stuff all the time. But with this rule, the cost of picking up someone you think could be a stud is that you either hold him for one lousy game or drop him early enough to clear waivers. To me that's a miniscule consideration, given that the rule solves the churning issue.You are right that your case isn't intended to be churning, but it is effectively equivalent since you lock out a player without ever using a roster spot.'FDC said:
Are you dropping a backup kicker or defense. Most leagues require each team to maintain a certain roster parameter which ussually is the minimum starting lineup at each position. Pick him up keep him unless you are happy with your backups.'49er fan said:
You are orrect - I was mixing up the two systems. The reasoning is still the same to have one FA/WW claim (part of the confusion comes from the fact that the two terms have been used interchangeably by many I play with) period - that is, people put in their claims once, commish processes once. Done. Also, in many of the leagues I'm in/have been in the benches have been fairly deep and lineups don't lock, jsut the players' active or inactive state at the start of their respective game (so WW claims aren't as crucial, as you can swap out everyone but the guys who played on Thursday night). Often times, if one of your RBs is doubtful, the guys on your roster are pretty decent, so you'll just plug with one of them - or plan ahead 2 or 3 days and snag one if you think you might need it.'49er fan said:
apparently it's legal in your league so it's not shady..but, why would you pick him up and then drop him on sunday..? hold onto him,he might have value down the road..'49er fan said:
That stinks and I would find a different league JMHO
Whether or not it's legal doesn't determine whether or not it's shady.
See? You didn't have a rule against it, but you determined it was shady anyway, so then you created a rule against it. That's how these things typically work.
We solve this pretty simply. We have one pick up time a week - Wednesday. We have deep rosters with taxi & IR. Folks have to plan ahead. Simplicity is elegance.This is such a crap move I had to read it twice to even get it. I'm not sure which seemed worse - the ethics of taking advantage of poor rules like that (rules that are weak probably because other folks aren't considering those moves), or the stupidity of dropping Turbin right before he starts as the sole back for the week. I think it was the ethics.'Greg Russell said:
hate wed only pickups. game and rosters are too fluid with injuries for that.
yea, there's the slippery slope...thats why there needs to be a rulea few ways this can be prevented:1. add/drop limit (not a fan of that, but i've been in a league that had one)2. pay for transactions (still not a fan of that, but better than a limit)3. must keep an added player until the next week's WW process4. cannot drop a player within 48 hours before his kickoff (unless injury status is questionable or worse)...dropped players are on waivers for 24 hours...gives 24 hours for player to be picked up if not claimed on waiversany other good suggestions?
It's worked great for years with no problems. Has nothing to do with the pickup being a handcuff or not being a handcuff.
'ers in this thread or play within the rules to win.
