Evan Silva & Fabio RB tiers projections (1 Viewer)

[Bracie Smathers]

From over a week ago and updated four days ago but I only caught this today.

Didn't see it posted so hope this isn't a Honda.

Too much to cut-and-paste so go to LINK:

http://www.nfl.com/fantasyfootball/story/0ap3000000502038/article/backfield-fantasy-projections-for-all-32-teams

Backfield fantasy projections for all 32 teams

By Michael Fabiano NFL.com

• NFL Media Senior fantasy analyst
• Published: July 16, 2015 at 04:24 p.m.
• Updated: July 20, 2015 at 01:45 p.m.

From the above you can see Fabio's projections for top rookie RBs. I did my own top 12 fantasy rankings for all rookies in a standard dynasty league and I tend to stray from consensus ADP because those rankings change over time but the early rankings still hold sway.

Here is how I have the top 12 rookies ranked and the above projections tend to fit so I thought Fabio's projections were worth sharing.

Top 12 Dynasty rookies 12 team Standard Scoring

1.01 WR Amari Cooper

1.02 RB Todd Gurley

1.03 RB Melvin Gordon

1.04 WR Kevin White

1.05 RB TJ Yeldon

1.06 RB Tevin Coleman

1.07 WR DeVante Parker

1.08 QB Jameis Winston

1.09 WR Dorial Green-Beckham

1.10 WR Nelson Agholor

1.11 QB Marcus Mariota

1.12 RB Duke Johnson

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For Dynasty, I like Amari Cooper just barely over Gurley due to WRs having a longer NFL life.

I think Winston will turn into a solid NFL and fantasy QB who may never turn into a top five fantasy QB but I think he will post decent numbers and that holds value in many dynasty leagues.

I have RB Duke Johnson over RB Ameer Abdula because I don't think Abdula has the upside of Duke. I had Abdula ranked 13th so it was a virtual tie but I plugged in Duke due to his upside because I think he has the ability to be a feature back.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

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[Bracie Smathers]

From the above article.

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Arizona Cardinals

- Andre Ellington 228 carries 271 touches

- David Johnson 93 carries 126 touches

Atlanta Falcons

- Tevin Coleman 187 carries 209 touches

- Devonte Freeman 136 carries 184 touches

Baltimore Ravens

- Justin Forsett 223 carries 282 touches

- Lorenzo Taliaferro 99 carries 110 touches

Buffalo Bills

- LeSean McCoy 306 carries 339 touches

- Fred Jackson 87 carries 112 touches

Carolina Panthers

- Jonathan Stewart 231 carries 261 touches

- Cameron Artis- Payne 71 carries 77 touches

Chicago Bears

- Matt Forte 261 carries 324 touches

- Ka'Deem Carey 68 carries 74 touches

Cincinnati Bengals

- Jeremy Hill 271 carries 293 touches

- Giovani Bernard 127 carries 179 touches

Cleveland Browns

- Duke Johnson 160 carries 198 touches

- Isaiah Crowell 137 carries 151 touches

Dallas Cowboys

- Joseph Randle 238 carries 261 touches

- Darren McFadden 133 carries 150 touches

Denver Broncos

- C.J. Anderson 274 carries 323 touches

- Montee Ball 87 carries 93 touches

Detroit Lions

- Ameer Abdulla 158 carries 211 touches

- Joique Bell 194 carries 227 touches

Green Bay Packers

- Eddie Lacey 267 carries 305 touches

- James Starks 81 carries 96 touches

Houston Texans

- Arian Foster 259 EDIT: 289 carries 333 touches

- Alfred Blue 86 carries 97 touches

Indianapolis Colts

- Frank Gore 262 carries 296 touches

- Dan Herron 73 carries 104 touches

Jacksonville Jaguars

- T.J. Yeldon 227 carries 250 touches

- Denard Robinson 74 carries 97 touches

Kansas City Chiefs

- Jamaal Charles 236 carries 285 touches

- Knile Davis 94 carries 107 touches

Miami Dolphins

- Lamar Miller 231 carries 266 touches

- Jay Ajayi 92 carries 114 touches

Minnesota Vikings

- Adrian Peterson 287 carries 339 touches

- Jerick McKinnon 66 carries 86 touches

New England Patriots

- LeGarrette Blount 210 carries 219 touches

- Jonas Gray 97 carries 105 touches

New Orleans Saints

- Mark Ingram 246 carries 271 touches

- C.J. Spiller 109 carries 178 touches

New York Giants

- Rashard Jenning 203 carries 221 touches

- Shane Vereen 118 carries 179 touches

New York Jets

- Chris Ivory 203 carries 221 touches

- Stevan Ridley 104 carries 108 touches

Oakland Raiders

- Lataviou Murray 220 carries 242 touches

- Roy Jelu Jr. 83 carries 130 touches

Philadelphia Eagles

- DeMarco Murray 241 carries 274 touches

- Ryan Mathews 136 carries 149 touches

Pittsburgh Steelers

- LeVeon Bell 231 carries 295 touches

- DeAngelo Williams 88 carries 101 touches

San Diego Chargers

- Melvin Gordon 272 carries 295 touches

- Danny Woodhead 75 carries 131 touches

San Francisco 49ers

- Carlos Hyde 241 carries 254 touches

- Reggie Bush 87 carries 131 touches

Seattle Seahawks

- Marshawn Lynch 273 carries 307 touches

- Robert Turbin 64 carries 77 touches

St. Louis Rams

- Todd Gurley 171 carries 193 touches

- Tre Mason 129 carries 147 touches

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

- Doug Martin 202 carries 229 touches

- Charles Sims 110 carries 153 touches

Tennessee Titans

- Bishop Shankey 158 carries 182 touches

- David Cobb 107 carries 122 touches

Washington Redskins

- Alfred Morris 277 carries 299 touches

- Matt Jones 63 carries 90 touches

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Kicking around the numbers the top touch RBs from each team that Fabio projects with over 200 total touches, you see their is an even break of 4 groups of 7 RBs that match up with fairly close in total touches.

So here is a grouping from highest to lowest total projected touches of groups of 7 of those RBs who projected over 200 total touches.

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LeSean McCoy 306 carries 339 touches

Adrian Peterson 287 carries 339 touches

Arian Foster 259 EDIT: 289 carries 333 touches

Matt Forte 261 carries 324 touches

C.J. Anderson 274 carries 323 touches

Marshawn Lynch 273 carries 307 touches

Alfred Morris 277 carries 299 touches

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Frank Gore 262 carries 296 touches

LeVeon Bell 231 carries 295 touches

Melvin Gordon 272 carries 295 touches

Jeremy Hill 271 carries 293 touches

Jamaal Charles 236 carries 285 touches

Justin Forsett 223 carries 282 touches

DeMarco Murray 241 carries 274 touches

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Mark Ingram 246 carries 271 touches

Andre Ellington 228 carries 271 touches

Lamar Miller 231 carries 266 touches

Jonathan Stewart 231 carries 261 touches

Joseph Randle 238 carries 261 touches

Carlos Hyde 241 carries 254 touches

T.J. Yeldon 227 carries 250 touches

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Latavious Murray 220 carries 242 touches

Doug Martin 202 carries 229 touches

Joique Bell 194 carries 227 touches

Rashard Jenning 203 carries 221 touches

Chris Ivory 203 carries 221 touches

LeGarrette Blount 210 carries 219 touches

Tevin Coleman 187 carries 209 touches

 

[Stealthycat]

Reggie Bush 87 carries 131 touches

Reggie is only going to get 44 passes thrown his way ?

I don't see Crowell giving up to Duke but maybe so...... overall a dang good projections

 

[voiceofunreason]

He might be the only guy on TV worse than Sims. Tough choice.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Evan Silva was on Ross Tucker's podcast. He didn't give projections but he ranked RBs in 8 fantasy RB tiers.

LINK to the pod:

http://www.rosstucker.com/wp/podcasts/fantasy-feast-eatin/

RTFF #77: Evan's RB Rankings
Evan breaks down the 2015 Fantasy...
Evan Silva RB rankings

Tier one

LeVeon Bell

Jamaal Charles

Adrian Peterson

Eddie Lacey

Marshawn Lynch

Arian Foster

C.J. Anderson

DeMarco Murray

Matt Forte

Jeremy Hill

Tier Two

LeSean McCoy

Justin Forsett

Frank Gore

Mark Ingram

Melvin Gordon

C.J. Spiller

Lamar Miller

Tier Three

Jonathan Stewart

Alfred Morris

Carlos Hyde

T.J. Yeldon

Tier Four

Ameer Abdula

Todd Gurley

Andre Ellington

Latavious Murray

Tier Five

Rashad Jennings

Tevin Coleman

Legarrette Blount

Joseph Randle

Chris Ivory

Joique Bell

Shane Vereen

Doug Martin

Geovani Bernard

Tier Six

Duke Johnson

Isaiah Crowell

Ryan Mathews

Tre Mason

David Johnson

Reggie Bush

Bishop Sankey

DeVante Freeman

Tier Seven

Roy Helu

Danny Woodhead

Knile Davis

Darren McFadden

Tier Eight

Charles Simms

Jerrick McKinnon

Monte Ball

Buck Allen

Darren Sproils

DeAngelo Williams

David Cobb

Lance Dunbar

 

[Fantasysports1]

I like Silva's RB tiers, though what he said about some of them makes you pause. Like Latavius being in a bad offense and Helu taking receptions away. Taking 2 WR's in first 3 rounds makes for a tough RD 4 RB pick.

 

[mphtrilogy]

this one has some good stuff, thanks for posting..

not sure why a morris is in tier3 with 299 touches forecast

 

[jurb26]

If healthy, there is no way Charles doesn't get more than 300 touches.

 

[rzrback77]

Bracie,

Typo on Foster, projects 289 rushes not 259. I was thinking projecting 74 receptions was out there, but it was 44 catches

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Bracie,

Typo on Foster, projects 289 rushes not 259. I was thinking projecting 74 receptions was out there, but it was 44 catches

Oops, couldn't cut-and-paste that info since it was in gif form so good catch. (No pun intended)

Also as noted Fabiano's projections can be called into question for instance, I think DeMarco Murray is going to have more carries and total touches so having Fabiano's projections and Silva's tiers as a loose outline to compare how each list stacks up helps to determine value.

Hopefully some other projections start to roll in so we can gather more data points.

 

[Biabreakable]

Numberfire has had projections out for awhile. Here is a link to the RB list.

 

[Fantasysports1]

If Spiller, Ingram are gone, Stewart is interesting in RD 4 of drafts but carries risk of injury. I would prefer Stewart for upside to Morris. Morris is not a sexy pick as your RB 2 in PPR because he doesn't catch, may not score many TDs, but he has potential to do very well if RG3 and Washington have a decent showing. Morris was pretty good in his first year.

I just don't now about Ellington as a RB 2, he has upside but injury risk and RBBC risk. Ellington does get a PPR boost.

Murray is interesting because of his upside if probably the highest of this group but poor offense and can lose some work to Helu. Though if Raiders can put some offense and stay on field, Murray can get major work with a nice YPC.