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And I go to one that has in previous years averaged 40k a week across 8 locations and I hear things like patriotism, capitalism, the 2nd amendment and not being socialist 10x more than I hear about abortion. The gun nuts in particular are maddening to me - I’m always curious if they think Jesus would be a card carrying NRA member like them. I don’t.
Somehow I think His "turn the other cheek" command wouldn't sit well with the "Molon Labe" crowd.
Funny how the early Christians described in Acts were without question communists. Not in the Marxists sense with all of that baggage but in the sense that in Jerusalem the first converts to follow Christ affirmed their new faith by living together, selling what they could, redistributing their wealth “as each needed” and owning all possessions communally*. People like to argue that communism doesn't work but that is wrong. Communism works fine in these small communities. It just doesn't scale.
The cynic in me thinks that Robertson just realized that Trump has reach the point where he’s no longer useful to him. That or Trump is taking the money out of Robertson’s pockets with his grift.
This is exactly what came to my mind.AAABatteries said:
Also Pat Robertson:Maurile Tremblay said:
I always love the parts they choose to focus on and which to ignore. My favorite is ignoring the story of the good Samaritan in favor of building a wall to keep people out.
It's not...it's Pat Robertson...we already knew in 2018 that it was going to be hard to find Evangelicals who supported Trump after he was out of office. This is the beginning of that historical rewrite.Drunken Cowboy said:
I'm kind of partial to this theme:
I think one of the great ironies (tragedies?) in this tempetuous relationship between Evangelical leaders/followers and Trump - they have resorted to an unhealthy idol worshiping - which, of course, flies in the face of teachings throughout the Bible, of not worshiping false gods.It's not...it's Pat Robertson...we already knew in 2018 that it was going to be hard to find Evangelicals who supported Trump after he was out of office. This is the beginning of that historical rewrite.
I don't know much about Robertson other than he seems to say some pretty wild things. I took what he said there with "time to move on" as pretty much how a rational person would see the situation.AAABatteries said:
I'm not saying this is always the case but when any particular action that is good or bad can be attributed to God's will then it becomes pointless to argue. Anything that happens can be God's will.
Agree - that's why I said the cynic in me. I would love to think he's being rational about this but like you said, he tends to say some pretty wild things and he's pretty old.I don't know much about Robertson other than he seems to say some pretty wild things. I took what he said there with "time to move on" as pretty much how a rational person would see the situation.
My hope is that's what everyone does as well.
Yeah, the same people who argue that Trump was appointed by God will not say the same thing about Biden. I don't think you can have it both ways, but they sure do try.
Adding a link to the interview CNN's story was based on. May be useful to others. I'd never heard of this person before.
Interesting. I took note of this comment:
“I'm 63 1/2 years old & I have never seen anything in these United States of America I found more astonishingly seductive & dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism," Moore tweeted in December last year. "This Christian nationalism is not of God. Move back from it."
I think Joe started a thread about this. I thought most of the churches and people in church that I knew for years were hypocrites but this Trump stuff just cemented it. Southern baptists, in particular, bastardized Jesus’ teachings years ago so I guess it shouldn’t come as a surprise but I still was.
