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Excessively hot basement (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Spike
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
It's an 85 degree basement when the rest of the house is much cooler. It's like bizarro world. I would be checking everything like I was looking for the antidote.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
So did you or did you not yet turn EVERYTHING off and see what happens? If the temp gets lower, you could then turn things on one at a time and................ah nevermind.
Spike
Footballguy
Spike
Footballguy
Spike
Footballguy
Well, turning off the furnace and boiler mean no hot water in the showers and inability to do laundry.
As I am married and have women in the house, that's a non-starter.
Temperatures on various things in/around the furnace and boiler using temperature gun:
Furnace plate - 107
Furnace face - 95
Furnace right side plate - 89
Furnace aluminum pipe - 82
Furnace copper pipe - 94
Blue boiler body - 88
Blue boiler top - 93
Readings done 9:15pm Saturday night.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I asked this earlier, but didn't see an answer:
Have you had this issue every summer you've been in this house?
Spike
Footballguy
More like the last couple. And there really have been no changes/additions to anything in the basement in that time.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
How about changes to the family? More kids & their activities, laundry, showers, etc...?
I'm betting it's your HW heating system and that nothing is "wrong" or "broken".
I mentioned before that my brother has the same type of set up. His boiler and HW heater are in a utility room that has a door to the rest of the house and a window in the room, so he can control the ambient heat somewhat.
I don't know how your basement is set up, but maybe isolating/exhausting that area will help.
Spike
Footballguy
No new children (done there), no more laundry or showers or anything like that.
Could very well be the hot water heating system because the furnace guy left me a vmm asking me to let him know the temperatures for various things using a temperature gun INCLUDING the boiler. Don't recall him checking that when he was out here last year.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Wacky idea, but get your laundry done, and have everyone take a shower, then turn it off. VERY simple, cmon man.
You might have a geological disaster brewing 10 feet below where you live. I think you can figure out how to make this happen.
Let your family stay in a hotel for one day while you get down and dirty and figure this sucker out.
Have a party. Whoever "figures it out" wins the door prize.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Dont call that guy back.
Questions. When the basement is 85, what is the temp upstairs?
WHy isnt this a problem in the winter? Is the basement warmer in the winter also?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Oh my good god I was just about to come here and say "is Josh Gordon in the basement"?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
the temp is "fine". Excellent answer
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Bossman
Footballguy
you stated that the basement has a "zone" for heat ... safe to assume that you have baseboard heaters down there?
I would start with those ... point the thermal gun thingy there ... if those suckers are warm then the valve is still open. Could probably tell just by putting your hand on them.
... also, I would think the furnace / boiler would have some type of insulation to prevent heat loss. If not, I'd ask furnace guy if that is an option.
If the hot water is not insulated then;
a) heat is escaping into the basement ...
and b) the furnace is having to work harder to keep the water hot ... causing more basement heat
I would start with those ... point the thermal gun thingy there ... if those suckers are warm then the valve is still open. Could probably tell just by putting your hand on them.
... also, I would think the furnace / boiler would have some type of insulation to prevent heat loss. If not, I'd ask furnace guy if that is an option.
If the hot water is not insulated then;
a) heat is escaping into the basement ...
and b) the furnace is having to work harder to keep the water hot ... causing more basement heat
mr. furley
Footballguy
gb the FFA. sometimes it can make amazing things happen and pull together to support a FBG.
and then there are times like these where vultures pick at the carrion from every possible angle and attack until the bones are dust.
all practical thought and reason gets thrown out the door and people try to top each other with insults and accusations of incompetence. i'd bet 95% of you louts have some as yet unsolved problem at home that could be ripped to shreds here. if you're married and/or have kids then it's a guarantee.
and then there are times like these where vultures pick at the carrion from every possible angle and attack until the bones are dust.
all practical thought and reason gets thrown out the door and people try to top each other with insults and accusations of incompetence. i'd bet 95% of you louts have some as yet unsolved problem at home that could be ripped to shreds here. if you're married and/or have kids then it's a guarantee.
Spike
Footballguy
Dedfin
Footballguy
Dedfin
Footballguy
I haven't read the thread but it's a week old and assuming people have thrown out ideas and no one has solved it yet my two are
1) There is an opening to hell in your basement. I saw a movie/documentary like this once and I think it's technically possible. Please watch for demons.
b) Check for raging fires
1) There is an opening to hell in your basement. I saw a movie/documentary like this once and I think it's technically possible. Please watch for demons.
b) Check for raging fires
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
mr. furley
Footballguy
does exposed insulation kick off a lot of heat?
our old house had exposed insulation in the attic crawlspace and it was a ####### sauna in there, bah gawd
our old house had exposed insulation in the attic crawlspace and it was a ####### sauna in there, bah gawd
Spike
Footballguy
No.
Insulation in the attic but between the floor joists and the plywood flooring I put in, not the ceiling joists and the roof.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Fat Nick
Footballguy
This solved the problem. He just needs to pull the cord with the snowflake on it. CLEARLY that turns on the basement cooler transducer.
ETA: D-cups?
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
wilked
Footballguy
Am I misremembering, or didn't Spike say he inspected the ducting from the dryer?
This is a ventless dryer? No duct?
nirad3
Footballguy
Damn, beat me to it.
Also, certain people (well, person) are being kinda d00shy in here. Jeez.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
wilked
Footballguy
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matttyl
Footballguy
I'm thinking that the insulation is the issue here. The furnace/boiler/whatever is putting off some heat. The room is mostly underground (which acts like great insulation and doesn't let heat escape) - and then the ceiling itself it insulated, not letting the heat escape upward (it's natural path), and is trapping it all down there. If you have windows, or a vent, or exhaust fan or something similar like that to just bring in some (theoretically cooler) outside air, that would help.
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Spike
Footballguy
Dryer vent is connected properly to the dryer, totally cleaned out and correctly vented out of the house.
The picture simply didn’t show the ducting.
Spike
Footballguy
Unfortunately, there are no screened cellar windows available so I can introduce cooler air into the basement.
Goid idea, though.
This HAS been the worst combination of heat and humidity for any summer that I can remember. Maybe that has something to do with things.
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matttyl
Footballguy
It looks like you have small slider windows down there. You can get or even build screens for those - as well as fans that are built that size. If you get fans, get two - one for each end of the cellar - one "pulling air" in, the other "pushing air" out. Given the high ambient outside temperature, and all the radiant heat produced by the boiler/furnace, and older (non energy efficient) dryer, all that heat simply has no where to go. It just builds up and sits there. Introducing outside air would help the temperature, but could also increase humidity down there.
Mile High
Footballguy
If it is an opening to hell there's a pretty good chance a hot scantily clad female will show up to close it.
mr. furley
Footballguy
as a point of comparison, we have a below ground basement, no insulation in the ceiling. it has been brutally hot & humid here for long stretches (middle 90s, dew points in the middle 70s). my basement is always noticeably cooler than the rest of the house.
Fat Nick
Footballguy
...I have insulation in my basement ceiling too. We had them put in a double layer between the basement ceiling/ground floor joists. I had it done more for SOUND insulation as I have a home theater down there than for temperature. As previously noted - dehumidifier running a lot...lots of electronics...furnace down there too...not hot.
I do think what matttyl said is the reason though - it's the combination of the boiler/furnace thing and the insulation. In my case, I don't have enough of a heat source as I don't have a boiler, and my furnace doesn't run in the summer. I could see how if I had a heat source greater than my dehumidifier, It could build up.
I do think what matttyl said is the reason though - it's the combination of the boiler/furnace thing and the insulation. In my case, I don't have enough of a heat source as I don't have a boiler, and my furnace doesn't run in the summer. I could see how if I had a heat source greater than my dehumidifier, It could build up.
