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If it's true about al Qaeda, then it just shows again how fighting these guys is like fighting the mythical Hydra. We have spent countless billions and untold effort over the last decade. We have killed their leader. We have killed their #2 guy several times now. How many times did both Presidents Bush and Obama tell us that this organization was severely weakened thanks to our efforts? And I have no doubt they were sincere.

But this is the problem with terrorism. All it takes is for one or two guys to express sympathy, and willing to kill, and AQ is back in business. We're only lucky that these two brothers weren't willing to die themselves, otherwise the carnage would have been much worse.
Anyone recall Obama going around the campaign with the line that AQ had been defeated...

...and the Benghazi happened?

Well, it happened, and then the administration went out of its way to say it was just a video.... and then once dragged through undeniability and being confronted about it, they changed that line.

Well maybe someone at AQ noticed.
PLEASE GO AWAY

 
If the guy was tweeting now, he would really make history.

Hot.... cold.....getting warmer... you're burning up..... now cold again...

 
Crazy to hear how everyone says he was a normal kid. Very odd.
it's really playing out like the younger guy was living a regular American life and his brother got radicallized and pulled him into this. Doesn't excuse the younger guys behavior obviously, but I know how much influence an older brother can have.

 
Cops around a car in Cambridge..Tow truck guy has been trying to get into the car for a few minutes now.. If I'm the cops I walk over, break the window and get along with whatever they are doing with the car.
Police dog now searching the car. :mellow:
Reporter just said " this could just be an illegally parked car.. Kind of a bad spot and day for that" :lol:
"Wai-wai-wai- hold on! I'll move it!... You're a little heavily armed for a meter maid, no?"
That's a case of extremely bad timing, if ever there was one.

 
I missed the last few hours. When i was going to sleep this Sunny Tripathi was the victim on the loose? He was just an innocent person now, not related to this whatsoever?

 
I'm enjoying this CNN interview with the wrestling buddies. Cameraman keeping the camera tilted down to hide their identities, so everytime he pans back to the reporter, it's aimed at her breasts before he tilts up.

 
I missed the last few hours. When i was going to sleep this Sunny Tripathi was the victim on the loose? He was just an innocent person now, not related to this whatsoever?
Correct. The kind people of reddit and elsewhere saw fit to have a little fun with his family and friends.

 
If it's true about al Qaeda, then it just shows again how fighting these guys is like fighting the mythical Hydra. We have spent countless billions and untold effort over the last decade. We have killed their leader. We have killed their #2 guy several times now. How many times did both Presidents Bush and Obama tell us that this organization was severely weakened thanks to our efforts? And I have no doubt they were sincere.

But this is the problem with terrorism. All it takes is for one or two guys to express sympathy, and willing to kill, and AQ is back in business. We're only lucky that these two brothers weren't willing to die themselves, otherwise the carnage would have been much worse.
First of all, al Qaeda is not some brick and mortar outfit. It's a loosely affiliated set of groups with a common set of interests that work together to different degrees and to different extents. To the extent that "al Qaeda" means the people directly affiliated with OBL, it's been almost completely gutted. It's top leadership as of 2001 has been killed or captured with the exception of al Zawahiri. Some of the local affiliates are of course still operating (many with 2nd, 3rd or 4th generation leadership given the killing of their predecessors), but it's never been a top down, centrally operated organization (to the extent you can even consider it a single organization). "Al Qaeda" is, in short, a shorthand reference used for convenience that implies uniformity that isn't there.

Second, there are other Islamic militant movements besides al Qaeda. Iran is a classic example - they don't need OBL (who philosophically was opposed to Iran within Islam in many respects) to call the US the "Great Satan". The Chechens have their own thing going, though their attention has typically been rather local and directed towards Russia.

In short, I'm assuming nothing about the "who" in "who is responsible" question here outside of these two suspects as of yet.

 
Who was the guy in the pic last night who was laying face down in the street surrounded by police? naked guy? Just some random guy?

 
Who was the guy in the pic last night who was laying face down in the street surrounded by police? naked guy? Just some random guy?
just another random innocent guy. I think he was let go immediately afterwards.

naked guy was similar but went a bit further obviously.

 
Maybe I missed something. Why do they always ask if they hate the U.S. ? Maybe they are killers nothing more.
Sometimes, when these kinds of guys are captured, there's an assumption of grand, "important", and understandable motives behind it all. But then when the perps get to talking, it often turns out that the reasons are ridiculously banal: "You blew up the finish line because you couldn't find a job/talk to a girl/had to pay a traffic fine?"

Really will be interested to see if some kind of parsable explanation comes out of all this.

 
Police scanner showing major activity right now.

Girl being held hostage.

 
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