Explosions at Boston Marathon (3 Viewers)

[Rohn Jambo]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes, the suspect is extremely dangerous.

 

[pollardsvision]

Chechen President says:

The tragic events took place in Boston. The blast killed people. We have previously expressed their condolences to the people of the city and the people of America. Today, as reported by the media, while trying to arrest a Tsarnaea was killed. It would be logical if he was detained and investigated, found all the circumstances and the degree of his guilt. Apparently, the special services needed by all means to calm the result of society. Any attempt to make the connection between Chechnya and Tsarnaevys if they are guilty, [is] in vain. They grew up in the United States, their attitudes and beliefs were formed there. It is necessary to seek the roots of evil in America. From terrorism to fight the whole world. We know better than anyone else. We wish recovery to all the victims and share the feelings of sorrow Americans. # # Boston # bombing investigation

Translation(and a poor one) by Foreign Policy. Sorry no link they require registration.

If I'm reading this right, he's saying that these acts aren't an attack on the U.S. by the Chechen people. It's sensible to spell that out, even though most of us would assume he wouldn't have to.

He also may be complaining that the older brother was shot and killed last night in order to calm the American public, with no guilt established. And he also may be suggesting that our society is inherently evil- it's hard to decipher this exactly.

Yeah, odd translation.

The bold is also quite an odd statement.

 

[timschochet]

Except for all of the ones that have been heading to Pakistan and Afghanistan to kill our troops there. You just forgot that part I assume.

Had no idea that there were Chechen fighters in Afghanistan alongside Taliban loyalists. That's fairly far afield for Chechens ,,, some of them must have a specific beef against the U.S. after all.

Yeah, I wasn't aware of any Chechen boiling anger at the U.S., but it's looking more and more likely that at least some exists.

It's just some common thread shared by militant Muslims that the West, most represented by the US, is the enemy of Islam. The point is that their Islamic beliefs are what's driving this, not their particular ethnicity.

Islamist, not Islamic. It's not religious beliefs per se, but an extremist view of the role of Islam in the world.

 

[HellToupee]

this is a complete cluster here . inspector saying he's getting info faster on his own iphone w/ttwitter than work phone

 

[ATC1]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

AP says bomb squad headed to his dorm. He lives in a dorm?

Yes. U of Cambridge

It's been reported many times that he's a student at Umass Dartmouth.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

CNN keeps showing a map and one of the locations says "apartment of 2 suspects"

college would let a 26yo non-student live in a dorm?

UCLA?

ETA: didn't see the "non" part.

 

[timschochet]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

 

[NCCommish]

Today Show (Richard Engel interviewed by Savanah Guthrie) reporting that the group the suspects are linked to is a splinter group of Al-Qaeda

I have heard that the Chechnyan rebels are pretty substantially Muslim, but I'm probably wrong. Still, it wouldn't surprise me to find that they're trying to get back to relevancy.

They're fighting a different fight though. Most of their work is local against Russia and/or the majority Orthodox Christians in Georgia. They're not really globally interested. They're fighting for their home.

Except for all of the ones that have been heading to Pakistan and Afghanistan to kill our troops there. You just forgot that part I assume.

Yeah you keep saying this but I have read a lot that says it isn't true. In fact IIRC no one has ever presented a dead, or alive, Chechen as proof of the claim. There have been verified non-Chechen Russian Muslims but no Chechens.

 

[glvsav37]

not linking it but sub-reddit "WTF" apparently has a shot of Suspect #1 in morgue for those interested

 

[timschochet]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

 

[Rohn Jambo]

The terrorists guys are young but deadly. The 26-yo MIT campus police who they killed was shot in the head and found in his vehicle with multiple gunshot wounds.

 

[HellToupee]

guy here is saying its going down & no one can leave

Where you at again? and are you like this guy right now

In a federal building on waltham/watertown line

 

[scottybo]

AP says bomb squad headed to his dorm. He lives in a dorm?

Yes. U of Cambridge

It's been reported many times that he's a student at Umass Dartmouth.

Yeah, twitpic was in my mind.

 

[Apple Jack]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

Why not? Will Boston snap off and fall into the ocean?

 

[Doug B]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

Amazing news.

So ... Dzhorkar is alone now? Assumedly, he's holding off capture with some kind of threat to blow something up (?).

 

[SacramentoBob]

Chechen President says:

. It is necessary to seek the roots of evil in America.

Translation(and a poor one) by Foreign Policy. Sorry no link they require registration.

Typical.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

Why not? Will Boston snap off and fall into the ocean?

Nice try but it will not take so long.

 

[dgreen]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

Amazing news.

So ... Dzhorkar is alone now? Assumedly, he's holding off capture with some kind of threat to blow something up (?).

It was just a report that a mom reported to 911 that her daughter texted her saying she was being held by a man with a gun. Discussion on scanner never indicated it is related. They sent some people to check out the report.

 

[The_Man]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday?

Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

 

[NCCommish]

Chechen President says:

. It is necessary to seek the roots of evil in America.

Translation(and a poor one) by Foreign Policy. Sorry no link they require registration.

Typical.

The translation is horrible. My guess is what he really said was more along the lines of don't blame us look elsewhere.

 

[KCitons]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

Amazing news.

So ... Dzhorkar is alone now? Assumedly, he's holding off capture with some kind of threat to blow something up (?).

It was just a report that a mom reported to 911 that her daughter texted her saying she was being held by a man with a gun. Discussion on scanner never indicated it is related. They sent some people to check out the report.

I agree. This would be the wrong day to get into a domestic dispute. (and use a gun)

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

if the city is on "lockdown", how did HellToupee make it into work in Watertown today?

 

[tdoss]

Kinda wished we'd call up Putin and tell him to wipe that crapstain off the map...

It's so odd since America was one of the few countries to chastise Russia for its dealings with Chechnya.

 

[Ned]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday?

Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

Yeah, but that was all before the public knew who they were. Now that they, well he, are hotly pursued, that changes things.

 

[snogger]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

Amazing news.

So ... Dzhorkar is alone now? Assumedly, he's holding off capture with some kind of threat to blow something up (?).

It was just a report that a mom reported to 911 that her daughter texted her saying she was being held by a man with a gun. Discussion on scanner never indicated it is related. They sent some people to check out the report.

even though this is Top news for Boston.. Normally Day to day crime is still happening.. Sounds like it was unrelated to the man hunt.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

CNN keeps showing a map and one of the locations says "apartment of 2 suspects"

college would let a 26yo non-student live in a dorm?

CNN is hitting like 30% this week. They haven't gotten a hold of this hostage situation yet.

 

[timschochet]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

Why not? Will Boston snap off and fall into the ocean?

There will be too much pressure on the government to come up with some other solutioh.

 

[JuniorNB]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

If a 26" blizzard came through this morning and lasted into tomorrow, it would essentially shut the city down for two days. And probably a much larger area of the east coast. Everything will survive.

 

[Ned]

if the city is on "lockdown", how did HellToupee make it into work in Watertown today?

We have a heavy pressence in Boston, and the company first told people to not go to work if they could VPN in. If they could walk or drive in safely, they were allowed to at the time. That of course quickly changed, but there was a short window where people were commuting to work.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

its going to end very soon

that's what people were saying 12 hours ago

serious question...what happens if this guy is not found today? does the city stay locked down tomorrow?

Yes.

I don't see how that's possible. It must already be costing millions upon millions. Think of all the businesses shut down- retail, corporate, industrial- it's friggin crazy. There's no way they can do this two days in a row.

Why not? Will Boston snap off and fall into the ocean?

There will be too much pressure on the government to come up with some other solutioh.

I am sure the lock down was done with OK from Obama.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

would now be a good time to commit some crimes in Boston?

cops are all distracted, but if they think your crime is related you'll have the entire city on you in a few minutes.

 

[HellToupee]

we've been given the all clear to travel out of watertown

 

[snogger]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday?

Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

Yeah, but that was all before the public knew who they were. Now that they, well he, are hotly pursued, that changes things.

Tough call here.. You lock it all down and nothing happens and ..

You open everything up and he enters somewhere and explodes a bomb and they will be 2nd guessed to the end of times..

 

[Two Deep]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

 

[snogger]

we've been given the all clear to travel out of watertown

 

[timschochet]

Kinda wished we'd call up Putin and tell him to wipe that crapstain off the map...

Worst post of the entire thread. By far. Congrats.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

if the city is on "lockdown", how did HellToupee make it into work in Watertown today?

He got a ride with Chuckie, Morgan, and Bill.

 

[Ned]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday?

Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

Yeah, but that was all before the public knew who they were. Now that they, well he, are hotly pursued, that changes things.

Tough call here.. You lock it all down and nothing happens and ..

You open everything up and he enters somewhere and explodes a bomb and they will be 2nd guessed to the end of times..

Much easier to seek forgiveness for a second day of lockdown than another bomb going off.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

females are good to go though, right?

 

[Nipsey]

DZHOKAR TSARNAEV = ZERO DARK VAN HATS

 

[dgreen]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

You already said that.

 

[NCCommish]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

They aren't from a country that has expressed hostility towards the US.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

if the city is on "lockdown", how did HellToupee make it into work in Watertown today?

He got a ride with Chuckie, Morgan, and Bill.

I want to hear how the cast of Southie Rules is coping.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday? Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

Yeah, but that was all before the public knew who they were. Now that they, well he, are hotly pursued, that changes things.

Tough call here.. You lock it all down and nothing happens and .. You open everything up and he enters somewhere and explodes a bomb and they will be 2nd guessed to the end of times..

The goal is the lock down will help to end this thing more quickly and safely.

 

[Ned]

DZHOKAR TSARNAEV = ZERO DARK VAN HATS

Excellent job, Edgar.

 

[lod01]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

females are good to go though, right?

oh hell yeah.

 

[timschochet]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

And this is the second worst post of the thread. You win the Silver!

 

[ATC1]

Hostage came to the door and police now saying they have her.

Awesome!

Amazing news.

So ... Dzhorkar is alone now? Assumedly, he's holding off capture with some kind of threat to blow something up (?).

It was just a report that a mom reported to 911 that her daughter texted her saying she was being held by a man with a gun. Discussion on scanner never indicated it is related. They sent some people to check out the report.

even though this is Top news for Boston.. Normally Day to day crime is still happening.. Sounds like it was unrelated to the man hunt.

Correct. The same as the report of a possible jumper on top a roof this morning.

 

[snogger]

I think they will have a very hard time keeping all of Boston on lockdown for a second day. Especially a Saturday - plenty of people are probably happy to stay home on a free day from work/school. But on a Saturday?

Also, does the entire city really need to be locked down? I understand a preponderance of caution, but these guys were out there walking around yesterday - when nobody knew who they were - and the city wasn't locked down. If there are specific neighborhoods in question, fine - but to keep all of the city and surrounding areas locked down isn't feasible.

Yeah, but that was all before the public knew who they were. Now that they, well he, are hotly pursued, that changes things.

Tough call here.. You lock it all down and nothing happens and ..

You open everything up and he enters somewhere and explodes a bomb and they will be 2nd guessed to the end of times..

Much easier to seek forgiveness for a second day of lockdown than another bomb going off.

I think most would rather they error on the side of safety.