Explosions at Boston Marathon (1 Viewer)

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Green 1999 Honda Civic possibly being used by the suspect.

He's done this before?

 

[Steve Tasker]

I think we should continue the practice of letting young males from hostile muslim nations/countries come over here so we can provide them a higher education. Seems like a great idea

The younger one was a U.S. citizen

Before moving to the United States, he attended School No. 1 in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, a predominantly Muslim republic in Russia's North Caucasus that has become an epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya.

Samuel Eto'o disagrees.

 

[NCCommish]

Chechen President blames AMERICA for Boston bomb suspects' acts of evil because of 'immoral upbringing'

Chechnya's Russian-backed president has hit out at America for killing one of the suspected Boston Marathon bombers and blamed the US for moulding them into terrorists.

Chechen-born Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, died from gunshot wounds and possible blast injuries after a fierce gun battle rocked the Watertown area of Boston hours after a police officer was shot dead at the nearby MIT campus.

His 19-year-old brother, Dzhokha, fled the shoot out and is on the run, reportedly having strapped explosives to his body.

But President Ramzan Kadyrov, a former Chechen rebel himself, told US authorities that 'any attempt to draw a connection' between Chechnya and the brothers was 'futile'.

In a Russian-language statement on Instagram, he added: 'They were raised in the United States, and their attitudes and beliefs were formed there.

'It is necessary to seek the roots of this evil in America.

'The whole world must struggle against terrorism — that we know better than anyone else. We hope for the recovery of all the victims, and we mourn with the Americans.'

Muslim militants from Chechnya have a long history of unleashing devastating terror attacks on Russia – but the allegations of involvement in the Boston Marathon blasts would mark the first time they have targeted the West.

However, the United States may have become a target for Chechen terrorists in the wake of the harrowing Beslan school hostage crisis nearly ten years ago, an expert claimed today.

Actually that is what the translation says and it's pretty bad. Not sure I'd get too worked up.

 

[Apple Jack]

I think I can live with a three second scanning on the way into a place ripe for an attack.

If they can get scans to be that quick and automatic, maybe.

But consider: EVERYWHERE is ripe for attack. Harden Target A, move on to Target B. Rinse & repeat.

And then: who pays to harden everything?

And moreover, how do you "harden" the Boston Marathon? It's 26.2 miles of public roads.

So should we just do away with the TSA as well and let the chips fall where they may?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Aunt really proud of filling out that paperwork.

 

[GDogg]

The Russian guy I work with said based on their first and last names they are from Kyrgyzstan. I said they are from Chechnya. He said there family probably moved 40 or 50 years ago. He said all this like it was important.

Fennis, if convenient:

Would you mind asking the Russian fellow if he meant that the brothers are Kyrgyzstani because they've adopted the Russian ending "-ev" to the original Chechen name "Tsarni" (Uncle Ruslan's last name). From what I can gather, the Kyrgyz have mostly adopted Russian endings for their surnames.

TIA

So I got a 30 minute history explanation. Ill see if I can summarize:

The -ev was added during the early days of the Soviet Union it was to make it more Russian. He said the Uncles name is very Muslim. He said if someone (during Soviet days) was named Tsarni and in Moscow without his passport he would be arrested, because they would be illegal. But if they were named Tsarnaev they would be "more Russian". They probably would speak Russian and be Russian educated.

He also said they are from Kyrgyzstan or maybe ("where the funny guy is from") Kurdistan. His only real explanation was that's where those names like Dzhok- and Tsarn come from. I think its kind of like in the US if someone is named Sally Mae we all assume she is from the south. Or maybe a better example is we know Jose is a Mexican name.

We do? Isn't it just a Latin name and the guy could be from any Latin heritage/country?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

In Soviet Russia...

 

[jon_mx]

Muslim connection has been established. The aunt who brought the boys to the USA in 2003 is being interviewed and said the older terrorist quit college and converted to Islam two years ago and was a practicing muslim.

But has he paid taxes?

 

[Statorama]

Has there been a discussion in here about the police doing door to door searches without a warrant? I'm not sure I'm ok with that

 

[Nipsey]

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

CNN: America's trusted news leader led by the ex-host of The Mole and the heel judge from America's Got Talent.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Muslim connection has been established. The aunt who brought the boys to the USA in 2003 is being interviewed and said the older terrorist quit college and converted to Islam two years ago and was a practicing muslim.

Now that he's killed someone with a bomb he would be considered "full-fledged", no?

I'm kidding.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I think I can live with a three second scanning on the way into a place ripe for an attack.

If they can get scans to be that quick and automatic, maybe.

But consider: EVERYWHERE is ripe for attack. Harden Target A, move on to Target B. Rinse & repeat.

And then: who pays to harden everything?

And moreover, how do you "harden" the Boston Marathon? It's 26.2 miles of public roads.

So should we just do away with the TSA as well and let the chips fall where they may?

It's relatively easy to screen people at our finite number of airports, since they all have to pass through a few key bottlenecks anyway. Screening people in an even remotely similar way at the nearly-infinite number of public gatherings in the US is just impossible.

 

[Apple Jack]

I'm getting the feeling this could all be over pretty soon.

 

[NCCommish]

I think I can live with a three second scanning on the way into a place ripe for an attack.

If they can get scans to be that quick and automatic, maybe.

But consider: EVERYWHERE is ripe for attack. Harden Target A, move on to Target B. Rinse & repeat.

And then: who pays to harden everything?

And moreover, how do you "harden" the Boston Marathon? It's 26.2 miles of public roads.

So should we just do away with the TSA as well and let the chips fall where they may?

We are no safer with TSA then we were before TSA. it's all kabuki. So yeah ditch TSA and let them go back to being rent-a-cops. We did the big thing which was harden cockpit doors. Take the money we have been wasting to have people fondle our kids and hire more Sky Marshalls.

 

[T Bell]

Muslim connection has been established. The aunt who brought the boys to the USA in 2003 is being interviewed and said the older terrorist quit college and converted to Islam two years ago and was a practicing muslim.

Now that he's killed someone with a bomb he would be considered "full-fledged", no?

I'm kidding.

It's called a "baptism", bozo.

 

[pollardsvision]

This will end very soon.

Define soon.

The guy's lasted 8+ hours of daylight search. Hopefully they capture before sundown.

:whoosh:

It's alright. Rudnicki and some others missed it too.

 

[T Bell]

I'm getting the feeling this could all be over pretty soon.

You're logging out?

 

[Two Deep]

Well somebody moved him over here, isn't it possible those people were and are an influence in his life?

Of course.

But this kind of stuff really can't be overtly stopped. Fingers in the dyke. Lock down immigration (or heck, even travel) from a list of countries, they'll start coming in from Canada or India or New Zealand or other friendly nations. Lock down Muslim names, and they'll fake paperwork to come in as "Graham Wellington".

You can't lock it all down. Can't even really lock all that much down, really. Throwing $20 billion at the problem doesn't buy you much more result than throwing $20,000 at it, IMHO.

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Dr. Detroit -- am I off base with the bolded?

There has got to be a better way than what we have been doing. This just keeping an eye on perceived threats while they are already here doesn't seem to work.

 

[NCCommish]

Has there been a discussion in here about the police doing door to door searches without a warrant? I'm not sure I'm ok with that

Exigent circumstances seems to cover it. We let police do that for far smaller reasons.

 

[KCitons]

When they finally make this whole thing into a movie, this will be the time "white hat" sneaks back into the area to say goodbye to the girl he love's. Next comes the massive car chase and the shootout to wrap it all up.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I'm getting the feeling this could all be over pretty soon.

why?

 

[TobiasFunke]

It's a translation. Nobody has any idea what the guy meant in his native tongue. It's irresponsible and frankly moronic to parse a translation for deeper meaning.

You should seriously reconsider where you get your "news." Here's a helpful hint: if a site gives high priority to whether or not Victoria Beckham had cake at her birthday party, keep looking.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

There has got to be a better way than what we have been doing. This just keeping an eye on perceived threats while they are already here doesn't seem to work.

actually, seems to me like it has worked pretty well all things considered.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Both the Aunt and the Uncle make great TV. Such passion. Oh no now the Aunt says the photos were staged. She may be nuts.

I assume the aunt and uncle get paid to do these interviews?

 

[lakerstan]

Is this a new Netflix original series?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

CNN: America's trusted news leader led by the ex-host of The Mole and the heel judge from America's Got Talent.

The Mole was a sweet show.

 

[Copeman]

This is going to end very soon.

[Rud]WHY? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT?[/Rud]

 

[Abraham]

"Who here's from New Hampshire? Okay, you guys go in first."

reporters ask a lot of dumb questions

No kidding. i realize they have to ask something, but it's insane how many people they have interviewed who said somerthing like "I didn't really know him" and the f/u was "so did he talk about terrorism and killing people and how long were his horns and tail...?"

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

Now we can expect hard hitting coverage!

 

[The Flying Elvis]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

 

[BroadwayG]

Is the old guy still surrounded by robots?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Has there been a discussion in here about the police doing door to door searches without a warrant? I'm not sure I'm ok with that

I am sure Obama will sign whatever needed afterwards.

 

[trout]

Has there been a discussion in here about the police doing door to door searches without a warrant? I'm not sure I'm ok with that

Is a warrant needed if the property owners willingly allow the searches?I'm ok with this.

 

[ffldrew]

Has there been a discussion in here about the police doing door to door searches without a warrant? I'm not sure I'm ok with that

If during the manhunt search they find weed or something in your house- it would most likely be inadmissable

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

This is going to end very soon.

[Rud]WHY? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT?[/Rud]

didn't realize this was a shtickfest all of a sudden.

 

[jon_mx]

I thought the US has done a pretty good job at preventing attacks by organizations. These lone-wolf (or brothers) attacks are harder to stop. It was not like they weren't trying. Although a few failed because they were idiots.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

CNN: America's trusted news leader led by the ex-host of The Mole and the heel judge from America's Got Talent.

The Mole was a sweet show.

don't you EVER disparage The Mole.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Plate number for green 1999 Honda Civic: 116 GC7

 

[soothsayer]

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

CNN: America's trusted news leader led by the ex-host of The Mole and the heel judge from America's Got Talent.

The Mole was a sweet show.

 

[pollardsvision]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Wait, who's in the '99 Civic?

 

[tdoss]

Future SNL skit: Gay cops pulling over random guys and making them strip, maybe have Sedekis be the lead cop over the megaphone. Have Hader be the EOD expert called in to investigate the suspect's suspicious "package". Maybe do it when that guy from Mad Men is host again...he's rumored as packing a hog leg.

 

[jon_mx]

It's a translation. Nobody has any idea what the guy meant in his native tongue. It's irresponsible and frankly moronic to parse a translation for deeper meaning.

You should seriously reconsider where you get your "news." Here's a helpful hint: if a site gives high priority to whether or not Victoria Beckham had cake at her birthday party, keep looking.

You anti-Spice Girl bigot!

 

[Rohn Jambo]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Some speculation that he may be wounded due to trail of blood found in various places.

 

[The Flying Elvis]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Wait, who's in the '99 Civic?

Heard they already found it.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Wait, who's in the '99 Civic?

Possibly the suspect.

 

[Abraham]

Future SNL skit: Gay cops pulling over random guys and making them strip, maybe have Sedekis be the lead cop over the megaphone. Have Hader be the EOD expert called in to investigate the suspect's suspicious "package". Maybe do it when that guy from Mad Men is host again...he's rumored as packing a hog leg.

No chance on earth SNL touches this any time soon.

 

[Apple Jack]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

He's in one of the houses inside the perimeter, eating Shepherd's Pie and reading the MD sorority chick's twitter feed.

 

[tdoss]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Some speculation that he may be wounded due to trail of blood found in various places.

Are there no blood hounds in all of Boston? Seems like a quick search with a good dog.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Anderson Cooper on the scene now.

CNN: America's trusted news leader led by the ex-host of The Mole and the heel judge from America's Got Talent.

The Mole was a sweet show.

You should try WW. WW = The Mole on a message board, basically.

 

[Lutherman2112]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Wait, who's in the '99 Civic?

Its parked. Possible vehicle used by suspect. Requested bomb sniffing dog.

ETA - this is a different vehicle from the one found earlier today (I think)

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So do we think this guy is holed up dead somewhere or waiting to be found? No way he is running around the streets of Boston and still moving right?

Wait, who's in the '99 Civic?

Heard they already found it.

Not according to the scanner I'm listening to...they're all looking for it