CrossEyed
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And if the brown bag sitting there was the explosive, wouldn't the mailbox right next to it have been destroyed?
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wazoo11
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shadyridr
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the picture says same color bag when clearly theyre different colors
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Doctor Detroit
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No, depends on blast direction and force. In Iraq I saw a IED take out wagon and a donkey and the 30 people standing in the immediate area on the other side weren't touched.
eurotrashman
Footballguy
That too.
Fennis
Footballguy
Sorry, I don't subscribe to your twitter feed, so I posted something from 10 hours ago.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I'm not familiar with Reddit and it sorta gives me a headache (kids today!), but I did skim along enough to come across an interesting idea.
Someone was wondering if it was possible to take all of the photos and video and etc that people have turned in and create a 3-D image (or holy #### - a 3D time series of images) that would let you move around inside it like you can a video game.
They did something like this (minus the moving around bit) with Obama's inaugural. Everyone sent in photos and they created a single graphic from them.
Someone was wondering if it was possible to take all of the photos and video and etc that people have turned in and create a 3-D image (or holy #### - a 3D time series of images) that would let you move around inside it like you can a video game.
They did something like this (minus the moving around bit) with Obama's inaugural. Everyone sent in photos and they created a single graphic from them.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
On one of the pics of the cooker that they showed on TV, you can see what looks like a serial number or at least a partial serial #. That would be huge.
ffldrew
Footballguy
I guess so. But the shredded fabric resembles that backpack pretty closely and the grey matches up.
Raider Nation
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the moops
Footballguy
sporthenry
Footballguy
It is cool to see Reddit and 4chan try to put stuff together but I'm sure the FBI has already done that and more. I'm sure they have the make and model of the pressure cooker and if there is a serial #. I'm sure they are trying to identify the nails and ball bearings and see who sells that brand. I'm sure they'll find pieces of the bag and find the make of the bag and then find that in the videos or in pictures with the accompanying person attached to it. And just picture/video wise, they have much better technology to enhance the photos and actually see faces.
Wrigley
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mcintyre1
Footballguy
You'd probably be surprised. The best tech people in the world don't and won't work for Law Enforcement because Law Enforcement doesn't want them (not exactly your typical suit and tie types). They are, however, on Reddit and 4chan.
Of course Reddit and 4chan don't have access to the information they'd need to be useful, so you're right, the FBI is surely further along.
The General
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
The picture of the destroyed bag really seems to have a strap like the one that the white guy with the beard from the reddit photos has.
ffjunk
Footballguy
Found it. Starts at the 1:34 mark: http://www1.whdh.com/video/player/?clipId=8781617&clipFormat=flv&topVideoCatNo=#?autoStart#?autoStart
Just for the bag resemblance, this dude should be a person of interest at the very least.
Doctor Detroit
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pittstownkiller
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I am glad for your wife's friend. I am referring to mailboxes being used to put bombs inside them; that is why they (along with trash cans) are removed along the Presidential route when he visits an area. That also doesn't look like a mailbox per se, it looks like a mail bag locker where mailmen can store their bag and part of their delivery, while they deliver the rest of the mail to the area (no public access, no slots).
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Doctor Detroit
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What would happen if a pressure cooker bomb with ball bearings was placed in a U.S. mail box?
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Shut up and go whine about Matt lauer in another tread.
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
I would imagine that it would contain most of it but you would concede that there are more than pressure cooker bombs used as an IED. What would happen if you dropped three sticks of dynamite in a mailbox? Low explosive and high explosives work differently.
More online detectives...
In these pics there are at least a dozen guys with backpacks that appear black.
In these pics there are at least a dozen guys with backpacks that appear black.
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Doctor Detroit
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The mailbox is going to hold a great deal of the energy of a bomb, to make a mailbox a weapon you'd have to shove 20 pounds of C4 inside. Three sticks of dynamite is going to destroy the mailbox I guess, but you seem to be living in a cartoon so I guess three sticks of dynamite would kill a passing roadrunner.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I love that someone is trying to school Dr D about weapons/explosives/military stuff. Pitts must've read some Clancy which gives him more knowledge than a career military man.
the moops
Footballguy
Just look at him
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
When the mailbox is destroyed by the dynamite what happens to all the metal fragments that are expelled from the blast? C-4 is about 30% more powerful than TNT; I would imagine 20 pounds in a mail box there would have had a 100% kill radius for tens of feet and a lethality radius over a hundred yards.
Doctor Detroit
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I don't claim to be an expert, it's really just common sense. Bombs are placed in the open or in things that are wooden, glass, plastic or cloth for a reason. Plastic explosive, high grade explosives or just a lot of explosives (1200 pounds in Dar es Salaam embassy bombing, 2000 pounds in Lebanon, 3-5 thousand at Khobar towers) will destroy anything but they aren't easily concealed in something as small as a mailbox (especially if there are route sweeps or bomb sniffing dogs around).
Trash cans could be a good concealment point but they also will prevent maximum effectiveness of a bomb, they are used in Iraq all the time. But the ones that always did the most damage are the ones that had no obstructions. In neither Iraq or Afghanistan were we ever all that worried about trash can bombs, it was the ones just laying on the side of the street or placed under a table in a market that were most devastating. They tried to put them in oil drums, just made a loud noise and a mess and an oil drum is open on one end.
Trash cans could be a good concealment point but they also will prevent maximum effectiveness of a bomb, they are used in Iraq all the time. But the ones that always did the most damage are the ones that had no obstructions. In neither Iraq or Afghanistan were we ever all that worried about trash can bombs, it was the ones just laying on the side of the street or placed under a table in a market that were most devastating. They tried to put them in oil drums, just made a loud noise and a mess and an oil drum is open on one end.
Doctor Detroit
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Tell you what I'm gonna do. I work with a guy who used to be an Army Combat Arms guy and he worked with Claymores, heavy explosives and stuff like that. I'll see what he says and check back in.
flapgreen
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Just read about the bomb at the Khobar Towers. Wow. The explosion was felt from 20 miles away. The shockwave alone destroyed things.
Doctor Detroit
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Yeah I went there two days after, it pealed the side the of the building right off. They found debris two miles away, the shock wave itself destroyed a bunch of stuff that wasn't even in the path of the blast. We never got the right people who did it either IMO and the opinion of many others, that was a Hezbollah bomb and Iran was directly responsible. ####### cowards.Just read about the bomb at the Khobar Towers. Wow. The explosion was felt from 20 miles away. The shockwave alone destroyed things.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
Something just blew his clothes apart, why wouldn't he run?
Crazy he's not bleeding anywhere.
the moops
Footballguy
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
Fair enough; thanks.
Short Corner
Footballguy
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
it would probably get delivered to the wrong addressDoctor Detroit said:
Billy Bats
Footballguy
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
They found the lid on a roof.
One can hope.
pantagrapher
Footballguy
Hopefully there's some way to find out where and when those pressure cookers were purchased. Doesn't sound like there's much else to go on at this point.
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Assinine article trying to play this as white privilege. If its a group of any sort, we go after that group. Be it a nation, a militant cell, a terrorist group.
If its an individual we go after the individual.
The difference between Islamic bombings (and why we respond to them with force, is because they are usually orchestrated by anti-us groups who them claim responsibility for this and usually a series of other actions. There is a clear and present path to an ongoing threat.
When a single white guy like mcviegh or kazyncski goes off the deep end, there is no group to go after... There is no ongoing threat. We don't respond by blowing up Idaho because Idaho as a whole isn't harboring or part of a militant cell claiming responsibility for the bombings.
What a ####ty piece of lazy journalism... Playing the race card here.
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