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Extreme Left Threats against Supreme Court (3 Viewers)

Not sure why anyone should be getting testy about a subject we can all agree should never happen

 
You do understand that there are people out there with Schumer yard signs and Schumer bumper stickers who attend Schumer campaign events, right?  I mean, probably not a whole lot, but this is something that accompanies political campaigns.
I'm thinking two people & they are being paid.    IMHO

 
Sorry, pet peeve of mine.  I know you’re good people and I highly respect your views.  I just prefer we call out bad actors and actions specifically instead of generalizing.  It’s my opinion that throwing shade at govt in general the last 40-50 years has played a large role in the erosion of norms we’re seeing today. 
Distrust of government is as old as government itself, it's a feature not a bug

 
Why? I didn't willingly choose a high profile career. I also didn't choose to roll back 50 years of rights - assuming it goes through. The justices knew what the job entailed when they accepted it and know/knew the backlash their ruling would cause. They made their bed now lie in it.


Direct Headline: America’s Small Business Owners Have Been Horribly Abused During These Riots and Lockdowns. That Will Have Consequences

The backbone of the economy has suffered mounting injuries plus insults.

John Miltimore and Dan Sanchez Friday, June 5, 2020

https://fee.org/articles/america-s-small-business-owners-have-been-horribly-abused-during-these-riots-and-lockdowns-that-will-have-consequences/

Direct Headline:  Here Are Just 10 of the Many Minority-Owned Businesses Destroyed in the Riots

Riots and looting undercut the economic foundation of urban and minority communities.

Brad Polumbo Friday, June 5, 2020

https://fee.org/articles/here-are-just-10-of-the-many-minority-owned-businesses-destroyed-in-the-riots/

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There are close to 33 million small businesses in America, based on rough projections to close out 2022.

They represent 99.9 percent of all businesses in America and employ close to 61 million Americans. Roughly 47 percent of our entire workforce gets up in the morning and goes to put in a shift at a small business.

You talk about the ability to "willingly choose"

The core of the establishment Democrats and the radical left, the same ones stoking the fires to get Conservative SCOTUS Justices targeted, are the exact same people who chose to allow violence and the threats of violence to destroy the entire backbone of our economy. Look at our economic conditions as of today, you think that came out of nowhere?

That's regular every day people just trying to put a roof over the heads of their kids. And put food on the table for them.

America's children don't get to "choose" anything. They are at the mercy of the adults around them to hopefully build them a better world.

This is the world the radical left wants for them - If you disagree with our very narrow vision of the ideal woke utopia designed to push "identity" over merit, we will hunt you down.

 
Why? I didn't willingly choose a high profile career. I also didn't choose to roll back 50 years of rights - assuming it goes through. The justices knew what the job entailed when they accepted it and know/knew the backlash their ruling would cause. They made their bed now lie in it.


Direct Headline: 'The most horrific displays of hate I've ever seen' | Portland police describe protests (full video) Aug 6, 2020

Raw interview: Three members of the Portland Police Bureau spoke to the media on Thursday afternoon to share personal experiences while working the front lines of Portland protests.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMe2hou_sgE

Direct HeadlineMolotov Cocktails Thrown, Riot Declared - Day 100 of the Portland Protests Sep 6, 2020

A man was lit on fire after Molotov cocktails were thrown shortly after 9 pm at the Portland Protests last night. Police declared a riot within seconds, firing off teargas to the crowd to try to disperse them from Ventura Park.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQrIRMCZmg

Direct Headline: Riots, arrests as protests pass 100 days in Portland Sep 7, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3_4xjrOESQ

Direct Headline: Downtown Portland businesses face rising insurance costs, decreased coverage after riots Jan 5, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE_2L3o5wNA

Direct Headline: LOOTERS RANSACK LOUIS VUITTON AND APPLE STORE IN PORTLAND, OREGON May 31, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvriPQdCtK0

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“... (Joe Biden on Capitol Riots/Protests).... Yesterday was one of the darkest days.... in the history of our America...an unprecedented assault on all our democracy.... yesterday was not dissent.... it was not protest.... It was total chaos...They weren’t real protestors.... Don’t ever dare call them protesters....They were a very riotous mob....and insurrectionists...and domestic terrorists.... It’s that simple....”

My Conservative brother @BladeRunner knew I would eventually get to the Molotov cocktails and Portland.

Joe Biden makes it very very clear about violence.

When something happens that hurts our political agenda, those people are domestic terrorists and need to be punished.

But if we want an entire city to be taken over by real domestic terrorists and rioters and looters FOR MONTHS  ON END, NIGHT AFTER NIGHT, INCLUDING SETTING PEOPLE ON FIRE, then that's just the cost of doing business.

You lock down the businesses because of COVID ( but not SJW/Woke/BLM protests...). Then you enact public policy to bail out criminals and allow activist complicit DAs to refuse to enforce civil order. Then you order your law enforcement to stand down, after you try to "defund" them and smear them in the national daily media cycle with outright lies that they are secretly White Nationalists going around wildly just randomly executing black people in the streets. And many of the real victims are SBO's, the creators of real jobs in their communities and are minorities, who are left in the open to be massacred at will by the whims of the woke mob. Then these businesses are savaged to the point where they can't earn a living or even get insurance anymore.

Tell me what is the "social justice" and "equity" achieved when looters and rioters are just stealing IPhones and designer clothing and jewelry and consumer electronics?

What is the point of chasing "The American Dream" when it's just a looted out husk while psychopaths are lighting other human beings on fire?

You think the radical left would have a problem trying to push for the assassination of several Conservative leaning SCOTUS Justices to get their way? Did they have a problem watching Portland burn?

 
Why? I didn't willingly choose a high profile career. I also didn't choose to roll back 50 years of rights - assuming it goes through. The justices knew what the job entailed when they accepted it and know/knew the backlash their ruling would cause. They made their bed now lie in it.


VIDEO: Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities advocating violence at impeachment trial •Feb 12, 2021

President Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities including Madonna and Johnny Depp advocating violence at Impeachment Trial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1Rwlztapg

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It's easy to pretend Donald Trump, a narcissist and a stone cold grifter, built some kind of MAGA cult on his own out of nowhere from a field of Morlocks and white trash thugs. What's not easy to face is Trump gave a voice to many Americans who long felt disenfranchised , marginalized and weary of having leftist identity politics, backed by Big Tech, Hollywood, Big Social Media, Big Education and the activist complicit MSM condescending to them while trying to shove that woke agenda down their throats.

The Republic is bigger than just one man. Our Founders built our political system so it could be bigger than just one man. But one man was used as a cheap lazy excuse to justify how much violence? How much destruction? How much terror of innocent American citizens?

Crazy idea, if your Party apparatus keeps telling the American people, but particularly the hardened zealots, to go look for fights, then they eventually will. And Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito are the new target rich environment.

What does it say about the failures of the Obama/Biden/Harris/Rice regime and the ugly consistent pathway around Team Blue's enabled political violence and threats of violence that a 4th rate failed reality TV star grifter looks like actual hope?

 
VIDEO: Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities advocating violence at impeachment trial •Feb 12, 2021

President Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities including Madonna and Johnny Depp advocating violence at Impeachment Trial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1Rwlztapg


That's ugly. I had not seen some of those. 

I hope we can get to a place where this kind of talk and hypocrisy is not normalized the way it seems to be now. Regardless of what "side" you're on. And to clear, I think the right side has to do the same. 

 
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I would be absolutely shocked if Biden has ever been in a real fight in his life...I have always hated his fake tough guy act because I know it's fake.

 
VIDEO: Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities advocating violence at impeachment trial •Feb 12, 2021

President Trump’s lawyer plays a video of Democrats and celebrities including Madonna and Johnny Depp advocating violence at Impeachment Trial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj1Rwlztapg

*******

It's easy to pretend Donald Trump, a narcissist and a stone cold grifter, built some kind of MAGA cult on his own out of nowhere from a field of Morlocks and white trash thugs. What's not easy to face is Trump gave a voice to many Americans who long felt disenfranchised , marginalized and weary of having leftist identity politics, backed by Big Tech, Hollywood, Big Social Media, Big Education and the activist complicit MSM condescending to them while trying to shove that woke agenda down their throats.

The Republic is bigger than just one man. Our Founders built our political system so it could be bigger than just one man. But one man was used as a cheap lazy excuse to justify how much violence? How much destruction? How much terror of innocent American citizens?

Crazy idea, if your Party apparatus keeps telling the American people, but particularly the hardened zealots, to go look for fights, then they eventually will. And Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito are the new target rich environment.

What does it say about the failures of the Obama/Biden/Harris/Rice regime and the ugly consistent pathway around Team Blue's enabled political violence and threats of violence that a 4th rate failed reality TV star grifter looks like actual hope?
What an disappointing display and poor example from people that are suppose to represent our leadership.  It’s no wonder our country is in trouble.  Why would we expect anything less from the populace when they don’t agree with someone or something.  

 
What an disappointing display and poor example from people that are suppose to represent our leadership.  It’s no wonder our country is in trouble.  Why would we expect anything less from the populace when they don’t agree with someone or something.  


Corey Booker came an spoke at our law firm when he was campaigning in the Democratic primaries.  I'll never forget when he said that the general public needs to be better toward one another.  I wanted to call him out and say, they take their cues from the way their elected representative act.  Lead by example.

 
Really hard to read a thread with all this spam. Seriously the old days when people posted recipes was better than this. 
says the guy who helped completely derail the dismantling of "Reedy Creek/what happens to Disney next" thread.  Don't expect others to do things you aren't willing to do yourself.

 
Corey Booker came an spoke at our law firm when he was campaigning in the Democratic primaries.  I'll never forget when he said that the general public needs to be better toward one another.  I wanted to call him out and say, they take their cues from the way their elected representative act.  Lead by example.


Was T-bone with him?

 
Nobody should celebrate violence. Any public official that does so should be called out and condemned. 
 

When you focus on members of only one political party celebrating violence, then your intent is partisan hackery. You’re more interested in painting the other side as extreme than you are truly making a point about celebrating violence. You’re simply trying to “win”. When you repeat this in several long, obnoxious, mostly unreadable posts, you’re spamming. 

 
Nobody should celebrate violence. Any public official that does so should be called out and condemned. 


I don't think which "side" they're on should matter.

I think Donald Trump talking about "roughing up" someone is like Joe Biden "take him behind the gym". 

I think both should stop and be called out. And I don't think putting light on people saying these kinds of things is a bad thing. (I had not seen several of the examples in the clip @GordonGekko shared) 

 
I don't think which "side" they're on should matter.

I think Donald Trump talking about "roughing up" someone is like Joe Biden "take him behind the gym". 

I think both should stop and be called out. And I don't think putting light on people saying these kinds of things is a bad thing. (I had not seen several of the examples in the clip @GordonGekko shared) 
I agree with everything you wrote here. My criticism against the particular poster you mentioned is broader and based on a history of posts. But I’ll drop it. 

 
I don't think which "side" they're on should matter.

I think Donald Trump talking about "roughing up" someone is like Joe Biden "take him behind the gym". 

I think both should stop and be called out. And I don't think putting light on people saying these kinds of things is a bad thing. (I had not seen several of the examples in the clip @GordonGekko shared) 
There's a difference between candidate talk and president talk, which Trump never pivoted from during his 4 years as president. It led to violence.

 
I agree with everything you wrote here. My criticism against the particular poster you mentioned is broader and based on a history of posts. But I’ll drop it. 


I think he is a great response to those posters that always demand a link.

 
There's a difference between candidate talk and president talk, which Trump never pivoted from during his 4 years as president. It led to violence.


There is?  Did I miss the memo that it is Ok to talk about violence every 2 or 4 years?

 
There's a difference between candidate talk and president talk, which Trump never pivoted from during his 4 years as president. It led to violence.


I don't think we should have it for either. 

I don't think we should look the other way and normalize it for the Senate Majority Leader in Washington DC. Or the state senator in a small state.

Not everything has to be "but Trump". 

 
There is?  Did I miss the memo that it is Ok to talk about violence every 2 or 4 years?
GG has referenced isolated quotes, without context. I don't think anyone is inspired by Biden's tough man talk to commit violence. Twitter and others have concluded otherwise on Trump.

 
Corey Booker came an spoke at our law firm when he was campaigning in the Democratic primaries.  I'll never forget when he said that the general public needs to be better toward one another.  I wanted to call him out and say, they take their cues from the way their elected representative act.  Lead by example.
It's the other way around though.  It's been proven time and time again our politicians sink to behavior of the lowest common denominator and what their constituents let them get away with.  The path of least resistance is as valid for politicians as it is water.

 
GG has referenced isolated quotes, without context. I don't think anyone is inspired by Biden's tough man talk to commit violence. Twitter and others have concluded otherwise on Trump.


Pretty generic/partisan take...how about no one from either side should talk about violence so we don't have events like 1/6 or the riots we had a few summers ago anymore.

 
I enjoy GGs’ posts. He’s Gods gift to the PSF.


Agreed.  Keep up the good work @gordon gekko:thumbup:

I think the problem is he brings so many facts and links to back up his arguments that it overwhelms the liberals here and they can't stand it so they just shout "troll!", "Spam!" or whatever because that's much easier than having to back up and defend your argument.

GG brings a gun to a gunfight, not a knife.

 
Pretty generic/partisan take...how about no one from either side should talk about violence so we don't have events like 1/6 or the riots we had a few summers ago anymore.
In the George Floyd rioting, the roots of the violence did not stem from any rhetoric, but from decades of police mistreatment of minorities. Certainly the rhetoric from a few very irresponsible public figures didn’t help, but they weren’t the main cause. 
 

In the case of 1/6, rhetoric was pretty much 100% of the cause for the violence. 

 
I'll give Schumer a pass about his words inspiring violence since he has stated multiple times that violence is not ok. Versus one isolated out of context quote.

>>Make no mistake: Despicable acts of violence and harassment are being carried out by radicals across the political spectrum—not just by one side. Regardless of who is responsible, these acts are wrong and must be condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike. Period.<<

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1054782798459006977?t=8cMrYERcgidtyAivs4_6OA&s=19

 
In the George Floyd rioting, the roots of the violence did not stem from any rhetoric, but from decades of police mistreatment of minorities. Certainly the rhetoric from a few very irresponsible public figures didn’t help, but they weren’t the main cause. 
 

In the case of 1/6, rhetoric was pretty much 100% of the cause for the violence. 


Expected reply...how about none of it is acceptable...did you watch GG's video...there is example of example of calls for violence...until both sides stop making excuses it aint gonna stop.

 
I'll give Schumer a pass about his words inspiring violence since he has stated multiple times that violence is not ok. Versus one isolated out of context quote.

>>Make no mistake: Despicable acts of violence and harassment are being carried out by radicals across the political spectrum—not just by one side. Regardless of who is responsible, these acts are wrong and must be condemned by Democrats and Republicans alike. Period.<<

https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1054782798459006977?t=8cMrYERcgidtyAivs4_6OA&s=19


I"m not trying to be argumentative but I think this is the problem.

He said what he said. He doesn't get a pass because other times he's said the obvious thing. No politician should. 

That giving a pass and looking the other way is how we got to where we are now. On all sides. 

 
Expected reply...how about none of it is acceptable...did you watch GG's video...there is example of example of calls for violence...until both sides stop making excuses it aint gonna stop.
I didn’t make any excuses for that rhetoric- I called it wrong and irresponsible. I simply pointed out that it wasn’t the root cause of the violence. 

 
timschochet said:
I didn’t make any excuses for that rhetoric- I called it wrong and irresponsible. I simply pointed out that it wasn’t the root cause of the violence. 


Root cause...no...did zero to stop it...yes.

 
Root cause...no...did zero to stop it...yes.
Agreed. 
 

I want to add this- and I don’t think it’s a partisan POV, because it applies to 1/6 and to George Floyd and the current situation: 

Encouraging violence in rhetoric and speeches should ALWAYS be condemned. It’s never acceptable. But I’ve always been a little skeptical that it actually causes the violence. Usually there are other factors, often personal, that causes people to be violent. I don’t believe that most people can be convinced to violence unless there is something already off with them. 

 
Agreed. 
 

I want to add this- and I don’t think it’s a partisan POV, because it applies to 1/6 and to George Floyd and the current situation: 

Encouraging violence in rhetoric and speeches should ALWAYS be condemned. It’s never acceptable. But I’ve always been a little skeptical that it actually causes the violence. Usually there are other factors, often personal, that causes people to be violent. I don’t believe that most people can be convinced to violence unless there is something already off with them. 


I don't really disagree with this...idiots are gonna be idiots but our leaders need to be held to a higher standard from both sides...on a sidenote a big problem right now is how every single issue in this country has turned into the most important issue ever and democracy is gonna die because "insert issue here" doesn't go our way...the over dramatics need to end and the full time activists need to get a life and leave the normal people alone. 

 
This is what I mean.

Often we'll see it go like this:

That was wrong what the person on my side did.

But... And then they write a bunch of stuff deflecting the thing or minimizing the thing or pointing out the OTHER side is just as bad. Or probably worse.
I think as long as we keeping add more and trying to (maybe even unintentionally) defend our side, we'll be stuck in this cycle. 

 
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Boston said:
I would be absolutely shocked if Biden has ever been in a real fight in his life...I have always hated his fake tough guy act because I know it's fake.
All I know is that Corn Pop knew better than to beef with Biden.

 
timschochet said:
In the case of 1/6, rhetoric was pretty much 100% of the cause for the violence. 
This is completely misguided. Donald Trump's rhetoric may or may not have been a final catalyst for what transpired at the Capitol. He should be held accountable for whatever that role was.

But to say rhetoric was "100% the cause" is utterly ridiculous and simplistic. There were many long-simmering grievances among the 1/6 crowd that got them to the edge.

If you put made Donald Trump's rhetoric into a montage similar to GG's video, it would look exactly the same as Biden, Harris, Warren and all the pathetic celebrities. Much, much worse for the Lib's rhetoric in many cases.

Trump's rhetoric was a match on dry tinder. The Libs's rhetoric is like a blowtorch on wood that's not yet quite dry enough to combust. But it could easily get there.

 
This is completely misguided. Donald Trump's rhetoric may or may not have been a final catalyst for what transpired at the Capitol. He should be held accountable for whatever that role was.

But to say rhetoric was "100% the cause" is utterly ridiculous and simplistic. There were many long-simmering grievances among the 1/6 crowd that got them to the edge.

If you put made Donald Trump's rhetoric into a montage similar to GG's video, it would look exactly the same as Biden, Harris, Warren and all the pathetic celebrities. Much, much worse for the Lib's rhetoric in many cases.

Trump's rhetoric was a match on dry tinder. The Libs's rhetoric is like a blowtorch on wood that's not yet quite dry enough to combust. But it could easily get there.
I agree with you. That’ was poorly written on my part, 

 

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