I wonder if FanDuel will reclassify him (as a QB), if he is named the starter on Friday/Saturday. Obviously, it would just be for any slate not started yet. I know I have seen them add players (Lamar Miller was a late add this week) later in the week, but I am not sure I have ever seen them move someone (change positions) mid-week of a contest. I do know they adjust the NBA positions periodically throughout the season.Taysom Hill going to be 90-95% owned if named starting QB. Probably will still be one of the highest owned TEs even if Winston starts.
I enjoy it to much to walk away. It frustrates me from time to time, but I like the challenge of it.Winston will start. I would bank on that.
I'm going to change things up this week. I'm going to pick only 1 game to focus on for GPP. Build 30 LUs with the supposed winning QB stack, and 10 with his opponent stack.
Going to stick with my cash game strategy, but play more. I basically realized because of the payout scheme, our league is essentially a GPP. Gonna play more actual 50/50s this week. I have been having more cash success than GPP.
As I mentioned in the week 10 thread, getting discouraged with this season and may just dump all my bankroll into one week and call it a season...
These threads have been very helpful, though. I learned a lot this year so thanks guys.
Looks like the fun, high-scoring games are on Thur and Sun night. Not on this slate. I like either the ATL-NOS game or the GB-IND game. Prob the latter.
I don't play any GPP games. I know that I will never be able to hit the big pay day playing this way, but I'm OK with that. I can win much more consistently in the 50/50s. I hate losing...lol. My bankroll grows slowly, but I have been fortunate to have profited every season I've played thus far.Winston will start. I would bank on that.
I'm going to change things up this week. I'm going to pick only 1 game to focus on for GPP. Build 30 LUs with the supposed winning QB stack, and 10 with his opponent stack.
Going to stick with my cash game strategy, but play more. I basically realized because of the payout scheme, our league is essentially a GPP. Gonna play more actual 50/50s this week. I have been having more cash success than GPP.
As I mentioned in the week 10 thread, getting discouraged with this season and may just dump all my bankroll into one week and call it a season...
These threads have been very helpful, though. I learned a lot this year so thanks guys.
Looks like the fun, high-scoring games are on Thur and Sun night. Not on this slate. I like either the ATL-NOS game or the GB-IND game. Prob the latter.
I try sometimes, but the ownership game sort of drives me crazy with the cash contests - too many weeks I feel like there is basically just one construction for LUs and sometimes with ownership it feels like the week is decided by 2-3 guys. Plus I am such a low stakes person I guess I just take the attitude of WTF.I don't play any GPP games. I know that I will never be able to hit the big pay day playing this way, but I'm OK with that. I can win much more consistently in the 50/50s. I hate losing...lol. My bankroll grows slowly, but I have been fortunate to have profited every season I've played thus far.
This is why I find your style so interesting. Cash is literally all about highest floor, which means volume at the RB position and stacking the highest scoring game at QB. My cash builds are always QB-RB-WR-Opp WR from highest projected scoring game, then flesh out the roster with High volume RBs from some of the highest projected scoring games, some defense slated to play against a low-scoring team, and the rest all players that I can fit in from the 3 highest projected scoring games. I almost always finish in the money on 50/50s that way, and have finished near the top of our league every week (won it once also). As I recall, your roster building style is very similar and would be suited for cash in particular.I try sometimes, but the ownership game sort of drives me crazy with the cash contests - too many weeks I feel like there is basically just one construction for LUs and sometimes with ownership it feels like the week is decided by 2-3 guys. Plus I am such a low stakes person I guess I just take the attitude of WTF.
Thanks for sharing the method and presenting a good example. Good stuff.This is why I find your style so interesting. Cash is literally all about highest floor, which means volume at the RB position and stacking the highest scoring game at QB. My cash builds are always QB-RB-WR-Opp WR from highest projected scoring game, then flesh out the roster with High volume RBs from some of the highest projected scoring games, some defense slated to play against a low-scoring team, and the rest all players that I can fit in from the 3 highest projected scoring games. I almost always finish in the money on 50/50s that way, and have finished near the top of our league every week (won it once also). As I recall, your roster building style is very similar and would be suited for cash in particular.
As an example for this week: Highest projected scoring game is GB-IND as of right now (though I like the ATL-NOS game more even though it's a half-point lower). So I would build as follows: Start with Rodgers-A Jones-Adams. Then add Pittman. Gurley. Zeke. CIN def. Rudolph. Zaccheaus. The first 4 guys (rodgers through Pittman) I add without even a consideration to price. Then I try to fit the pieces (other than defense) at or slightly above what my average per player remaining is. I usually splurge on RBs and let the chips fall on the WR-TE at the end. They are usually scrubs, but I view them as gravy on top of my already high floor.
Seems to work for me.
You have to have a system and no system is perfect, but finding one that works for you and is profitable is key!If I were to do a cash game build for the ATL-NOS game it would go: Winston-Kamara-Thomas-Julio. Taylor. Gurley. CIN def. Rudolph. Corey Davis.
Much harder build this way as I don't like Taylor that much, but prices at the WR position forced my hand.
You'll notice I never take players from games that are projected to be lower scoring. I stick with the 4 highest scoring projected games. In my opinion, if you take guys from lower-scoring games that you think will play well, you're essentially betting against Vegas. Sure, on occasion you'll hit, but in the long-run you'll lose.
Using your formula for focusing on the top four total games and attacking the ATL/NO game my lineup looks like this:If I were to do a cash game build for the ATL-NOS game it would go: Winston-Kamara-Thomas-Julio. Taylor. Gurley. CIN def. Rudolph. Corey Davis.
Much harder build this way as I don't like Taylor that much, but prices at the WR position forced my hand.
You'll notice I never take players from games that are projected to be lower scoring. I stick with the 4 highest scoring projected games. In my opinion, if you take guys from lower-scoring games that you think will play well, you're essentially betting against Vegas. Sure, on occasion you'll hit, but in the long-run you'll lose.
See, I like this. I feel it has a high floor...I love Andrews now that Boyle is out for season.FatNate said:Using your formula for focusing on the top four total games and attacking the ATL/NO game my lineup looks like this:
Winston - Davis/Hines/Kamara - M Thomas/MVS/Zaccheaus - Andrews - Vikes
Wow...you and I are polar opposites in cash game approaches. I actually try not to stack. I have on occasion paired a QB-WR or a RB-DEF from the same team, but I really don't look for it. If the game script I envision goes sideways when I have investment in 3 or 4 players from that game, I figure I have wrecked my chances to cash. If I have a single player in that situation, no big deal as the rest of my line up can compensate. I like the diversification. I agree that high volume guys are important.Solomon Grundy said:This is why I find your style so interesting. Cash is literally all about highest floor, which means volume at the RB position and stacking the highest scoring game at QB. My cash builds are always QB-RB-WR-Opp WR from highest projected scoring game, then flesh out the roster with High volume RBs from some of the highest projected scoring games, some defense slated to play against a low-scoring team, and the rest all players that I can fit in from the 3 highest projected scoring games. I almost always finish in the money on 50/50s that way, and have finished near the top of our league every week (won it once also). As I recall, your roster building style is very similar and would be suited for cash in particular.
As an example for this week: Highest projected scoring game is GB-IND as of right now (though I like the ATL-NOS game more even though it's a half-point lower). So I would build as follows: Start with Rodgers-A Jones-Adams. Then add Pittman. Gurley. Zeke. CIN def. Rudolph. Zaccheaus. The first 4 guys (rodgers through Pittman) I add without even a consideration to price. Then I try to fit the pieces (other than defense) at or slightly above what my average per player remaining is. I usually splurge on RBs and let the chips fall on the WR-TE at the end. They are usually scrubs, but I view them as gravy on top of my already high floor.
Seems to work for me.
No doubt this happens sometimes. This past week was very close to one of those situations I think. Everyone was playing Davis and Johnson. You sort of felt the need to follow along. I played them too. They sucked. Fortunately, I was able to choose those other line up spots well. I get the appeal of the added variation in playing GPP line ups. It adds some fun...less boring. But you have to be prepared for much more variation in outcomes also. This means your line ups lose more often. Nothing wrong with that if you are having fun, but it seems harder to me to be profitable, especially when payouts seem to drop off so quickly after the top few places.KarmaPolice said:I try sometimes, but the ownership game sort of drives me crazy with the cash contests - too many weeks I feel like there is basically just one construction for LUs and sometimes with ownership it feels like the week is decided by 2-3 guys. Plus I am such a low stakes person I guess I just take the attitude of WTF.
The smarter thing for me to do would be try more 50/50? Try to be decent enough at cash so that those contests mostly pay for the gpps. Dunno.No doubt this happens sometimes. This past week was very close to one of those situations I think. Everyone was playing Davis and Johnson. You sort of felt the need to follow along. I played them too. They sucked. Fortunately, I was able to choose those other line up spots well. I get the appeal of the added variation in playing GPP line ups. It adds some fun...less boring. But you have to be prepared for much more variation in outcomes also. This means your line ups lose more often. Nothing wrong with that if you are having fun, but it seems harder to me to be profitable, especially when payouts seem to drop off so quickly after the top few places.
Yep, but there are still some choices. I decided to pay for Kamara over Jones. To do that I had to pay down a little further at WR and I used Grant as my scrub who returned 12.5 points on a $4600 salary...Cheap chalk RBs and a scrub WR allowed me to squeeze in Keenan Allen and Davonte Adams...so really only one scrub WR was needed. I definitely had options at WR. It was my decision to play Adams that pushed me away from JonesThe smarter thing for me to do would be try more 50/50? Try to be decent enough at cash so that those contests mostly pay for the gpps. Dunno.
Yeah, this past week was a perfect example. On DK for cash it was basically play either Murray or Allen, then Jones/Duke/Davis, probably a Seattle wr, 4k TE, and NO DT. Basically leaves it so your week and the difference between cashing or not feels like it in the hands of a couple scrub Wrs.
If I were to do a cash game build for the ATL-NOS game it would go: Winston-Kamara-Thomas-Julio. Taylor. Gurley. CIN def. Rudolph. Corey Davis.
Much harder build this way as I don't like Taylor that much, but prices at the WR position forced my hand.
You'll notice I never take players from games that are projected to be lower scoring. I stick with the 4 highest scoring projected games. In my opinion, if you take guys from lower-scoring games that you think will play well, you're essentially betting against Vegas. Sure, on occasion you'll hit, but in the long-run you'll lose.
I am ready for some DFS NBA!Raked $.25 in the free NBA draft contest yesterday.
Yeah, that's how we roll
I don't really follow the NBA, will be interested to learn the art.I am ready for some DFS NBA!
I enjoy the NBA. It is a basically daily, which means I do not have time to over think it. There are a few tricks, but nothing overly challenging. One of the most important things with the NBA is keeping up with late breaking news of who is sitting each night.I don't really follow the NBA, will be interested to learn the art.
Tonight have two similar LU's, neither is particularly exciting, just looking to be in the money again and have a reason to watch the game.
MVP - Murray w/Hopkins/Edmonds/Myers/Kirk ($70k Thu NFL Dive)
MVP - Murray w/Hopkins/Edmonds/Gonzalez/Myers (50/50 contest)
Such an interesting matchup. I made changes and added a second lineup.Single gamer for tonight:
MVP Edmonds with Hopkins/Kirk/Lockett/Carson
Differentiating: No Wilson/Murray. Lockett/Carson are both 'questionable,' so that may scare a few off. Edmonds with MVP will be lower owned in that spot than most.
Carson is not active tonight. Hyde is returning and will be the main bavkSuch an interesting matchup. I made changes and added a second lineup.
MVP Edmonds - Hopkins/Kirk/Metcalf/Lockett
MVP Carson - Hopkins/Kirk/Murray/Olsen
Thanks. I will need to adjust.Carson is not active tonight. Hyde is returning and will be the main bavk
I had both of these guys in my initial line up draft. Unfortunately, not looking good for Swift to playDon't sleep on the CAR-DET game either. Bridgewater may not play so passing and scoring may be down. But neither defense is particularly effective against the run. So this could be a good matchup for MDavis and/or DSwift.
I dropped the second lineup. Only using the first one tonight.FatNate said:Such an interesting matchup. I made changes and added a second lineup.
MVP Edmonds - Hopkins/Kirk/Metcalf/Lockett
MVP Carson - Hopkins/Kirk/Murray/Olsen
Just saw that myself. Wondering if I should try my luck with Kerryon Johnson or just pass on DET. I'm leaning toward passing and considering either Damien Harris or Rex Burkhead.I had both of these guys in my initial line up draft. Unfortunately, not looking good for Swift to play
I got this one wrong. Way wrong. Not sure I get it from a football move. Fantasy wise I will have Taysom in my lineup - QB at TE.How come Taysom Hill is not in the optimizer? Or am I just over looking him?
Originally, I had some interest, because I thought he might get a few more snaps with Brees out, but now I am just curious how he ranks from a value perspective. I have come around to Winston as the QB and I no longer expect Hill to be any more involved than any other week. I quickly checked last season to confirm my thoughts and when Bridgewater stepped in for Brees, Hill continued to be used in usual role. I expect to Winston to out perform Bridgewater, from a fantasy perspective, for that matter, I believe his fantasy stats will be better than Brees too. I expect Hill to be over owned this week and I would suggest Rudolph at TE, if you are dumpster diving at that position.
Wow. I still don’t get it. Does he start, but share the role? Someone help me understand this move.Taysom Hill named NOR starter. As of a few minutes ago could still get him as a TE
Don't know but this kinda makes me think Jameis kicked somebodies dogWow. I still don’t get it. Does he start, but share the role? Someone help me understand this move.
Interesting. Sounds like there might be more to the story.Don't know but this kinda makes me think Jameis kicked somebodies dog
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1329807379865726977?s=20
From what I have seen, it appears Winston will be the backup this Sunday. We do not get to see practice and Sean Payton knows his team better than us, plus he is pretty good coach, but I just do not see it. I think Winston is just the better QB, period. I really thought in that system he would put up big numbers. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out Sunday. I am also very curious how FanDuel handles Hill's position this weekend, if they make a change or not?Interesting. Sounds like there might be more to the story.
Yes. The link is posted a few posts back.Doing a FD contest this week?