TC,Thanks for the update. I always enjoy following the selections and analysis for FanEx and look forward to it again this year. Please feel free to post the link in this thread when it is ready to go.Regards,FaustHiya -Thanks for the interest. The FanEx Analysis Draft (FAD) will begin Saturday May 15th. Will post more info on this prior to kickoff. TC
2009 Draft & Analysis here:I looked for the FanEx Analysis draft last year and only found the 2008 results on teir website. I just assumed that it was no longer active. Is there a new website or can somebody provide a link?
For Cahill, I think its an "all in move" where he believes he has the best RBs by far due to explosiveness and pass receptions/yardage; and my belief is there is no way he takes Chris Johnson at 1.1. if he believed there is any material threat of a hold out past September 1st. Personally, I view it as an equal trade concerning the picks exchanged but because he got a solid performer in Ray Rice, he looks like an early winner of the trade. He is looking great. If the other guy picks up Aaron Rogers or Tony Romo with that pick, it does even out quickly 1) Cahill now has two sure things with two picks spent before 66% of the league have taken even their first pick. Either guy can carry his RB production; both can carry his team2) It only cost him a third rounder and a VERY LOW 2nd; and chances are that one of a second or third would be a bust anyway. 3) Of course, if one of Rice or CJ holds out or gets injured he is in deep trouble, but that applies to anything in Fantasy.4) He has the rest of the draft to dig out of the missing 3rd rounder, he should stay conservative and pluck a WR such as Roddy White, VJAX or Hackim Nicks when up next, if possible. He will probably have to rely on a cast of QBs rather than a front line performer, I am sure he is comfortable with that seeing he has CJ and Ric.Interesting trade by Duane Cahill to grab both Chris Johnson and Ray Rice while not being able to make a pick again until the fourth round. I wonder if the distant threat of a possible Chris Johnson holdout had anything to do with this move?
For Cahill, I think its an "all in move" where he believes he has the best RBs by far due to explosiveness and pass receptions/yardage; and my belief is there is no way he takes Chris Johnson at 1.1. if he believed there is any material threat of a hold out past September 1st. Personally, I view it as an equal trade concerning the picks exchanged but because he got a solid performer in Ray Rice, he looks like an early winner of the trade. He is looking great. If the other guy picks up Aaron Rogers or Tony Romo with that pick, it does even out quickly 1) Cahill now has two sure things with two picks spent before 66% of the league have taken even their first pick. Either guy can carry his RB production; both can carry his team2) It only cost him a third rounder and a VERY LOW 2nd; and chances are that one of a second or third would be a bust anyway. 3) Of course, if one of Rice or CJ holds out or gets injured he is in deep trouble, but that applies to anything in Fantasy.4) He has the rest of the draft to dig out of the missing 3rd rounder, he should stay conservative and pluck a WR such as Roddy White, VJAX or Hackim Nicks when up next, if possible. He will probably have to rely on a cast of QBs rather than a front line performer, I am sure he is comfortable with that seeing he has CJ and Ric.Interesting trade by Duane Cahill to grab both Chris Johnson and Ray Rice while not being able to make a pick again until the fourth round. I wonder if the distant threat of a possible Chris Johnson holdout had anything to do with this move?
Rookie RB Ryan Matthews and WR Calvin Johnson just went first round and ahead of Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Marshall. Did not see that coming!The Matthews pick is, well, stunning. Mainly because nobody would have said he was ultra elite, so while he looks to be tremendous; he is still a rookie and would typically go in round 3. That was characterized as "swinging for the fences" by the drafter but it doesnt make sense to me, he could have been had later, even probably later than a Beanie Wells or Rashad Mendenhall type, who probably wont sniff round 1. If one is going to be unconventional; that is fine, but value is value. You could have had Peyton Manning, a top WR and then still gotten MatthewsOn Calvin Johnson, I have held him 2 of 3 years in redraft leagues and he dissapointed me both times, barely serving as a #3. That doesn't mean he wont be a top 3 WR in 2010 (we know his talent) and I can understand this pick , even with a dash of "man love" on Megatron. Yet again, there is little value at taking him 1.8 when he is easily available leading into the 3rd round. People drafting more proven RBs are going to be happy about both of these developments so early.Michael Turner, Peyton Manning among others are sitting out there as value over the next 10 picks.I am looking forward to seeing information on this year's edition of the FanEx analysis draft.TC,Any information on when this kicks off?Regards,Faust
Okay, I like Matthews. I saw him play in college and I think he landed in a very good situation and obviously San Diego liked him enough to trade up for him....BUT they could have taken anyone they wanted at 1.08 and still have drafted Matthews at 2.05, so I just don't understand the selection from a draft standpoint.
And there shouldn't be any yet with this format.The WR run continues...still no QBs selected!
Agreed - usually somebody takes at least 1 QB in the 2nd roundAnd there shouldn't be any yet with this format.The WR run continues...still no QBs selected!
Seems dumb to take a guy they seem excited to later be a top 20 player at #8.1.08 - RB Ryan Mathews ®
I admit that I don't know/remember who Chris Dolfi and Tom Walls are, but other than having an interesting article to explain their pick at 1.08, the actual pick is dumb in my opinion.....here is their comment:
"We swing for the fences here. Yes Michael Turner was there. Yes Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne were there - and no, they won't be around for our second pick. We're changing our philosophy in this year's FAD (more on that with our second round pick); and wanted to get a very good RB here. The Chargers traded up a bunch in the first round to take this kid with the #12 pick; he's been practicing with the first team, and Norv Turner has been singing his praises. We think this kid needs to excel to help Norv keep his job, and we think he will. Is it a stretch to take him here? Maybe - given current rankings on him, but we expect him to be in the top 20 in forecasts come August, and think he will have an excellent year."
Okay, I like Matthews. I saw him play in college and I think he landed in a very good situation and obviously San Diego liked him enough to trade up for him....BUT they could have taken anyone they wanted at 1.08 and still have drafted Matthews at 2.05, so I just don't understand the selection from a draft standpoint.
Doesn't match up at all. Text maybe should have indicated top ten player and then if that was there projection not so bad a decisionFUBAR said:Seems dumb to take a guy they seem excited to later be a top 20 player at #8.1.08 - RB Ryan Mathews ®
I admit that I don't know/remember who Chris Dolfi and Tom Walls are, but other than having an interesting article to explain their pick at 1.08, the actual pick is dumb in my opinion.....here is their comment:
" Is it a stretch to take him here? Maybe - given current rankings on him, but we expect him to be in the top 20 in forecasts come August, and think he will have an excellent year."
Okay, I like Matthews. I saw him play in college and I think he landed in a very good situation and obviously San Diego liked him enough to trade up for him....BUT they could have taken anyone they wanted at 1.08 and still have drafted Matthews at 2.05, so I just don't understand the selection from a draft standpoint.
I am part of the team who took Mathews... I wrote that by August, I expected Mathews to be forecasted in the top 20 (he's currently forecasted around 30-40 now). I really expect him to be a top 5 RB, but by August forecasts will change to show him as a higher ranked player. He was the RB who I thought had the best chance to be a top 5 player.The other RBs just weren't as exciting to us - yes, we could have probably gotten him in the second round, but we ended up with Austin in the second (the last of tier 1a of WRs (tier 1 is Andre Johnson)). Michael Turner or the next set of RBs won't do as well as Mathews, according to my projections. Is Reggie Wayne/Ryan Mathews better than Ryan Mathews/Miles Austin - yes - if you have Wayne as a better WR than Austin - we have them in the same ballpark. Maybe that's wrong, but one man's projections are just as good as another until week 17 anyway.Seems dumb to take a guy they seem excited to later be a top 20 player at #8.1.08 - RB Ryan Mathews ®
I admit that I don't know/remember who Chris Dolfi and Tom Walls are, but other than having an interesting article to explain their pick at 1.08, the actual pick is dumb in my opinion.....here is their comment:
"We swing for the fences here. Yes Michael Turner was there. Yes Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne were there - and no, they won't be around for our second pick. We're changing our philosophy in this year's FAD (more on that with our second round pick); and wanted to get a very good RB here. The Chargers traded up a bunch in the first round to take this kid with the #12 pick; he's been practicing with the first team, and Norv Turner has been singing his praises. We think this kid needs to excel to help Norv keep his job, and we think he will. Is it a stretch to take him here? Maybe - given current rankings on him, but we expect him to be in the top 20 in forecasts come August, and think he will have an excellent year."
Okay, I like Matthews. I saw him play in college and I think he landed in a very good situation and obviously San Diego liked him enough to trade up for him....BUT they could have taken anyone they wanted at 1.08 and still have drafted Matthews at 2.05, so I just don't understand the selection from a draft standpoint.
You know what? Good for you, especially for taking him in a public draft.90% of the crowd just has a herd mentality and will criticize because the strategy is different. If you believe in Mathews, go for it. The idea is for you to win in the way you deem best, not placate the masses.I am part of the team who took Mathews... I wrote that by August, I expected Mathews to be forecasted in the top 20 (he's currently forecasted around 30-40 now). I really expect him to be a top 5 RB, but by August forecasts will change to show him as a higher ranked player. He was the RB who I thought had the best chance to be a top 5 player.The other RBs just weren't as exciting to us - yes, we could have probably gotten him in the second round, but we ended up with Austin in the second (the last of tier 1a of WRs (tier 1 is Andre Johnson)). Michael Turner or the next set of RBs won't do as well as Mathews, according to my projections. Is Reggie Wayne/Ryan Mathews better than Ryan Mathews/Miles Austin - yes - if you have Wayne as a better WR than Austin - we have them in the same ballpark. Maybe that's wrong, but one man's projections are just as good as another until week 17 anyway.Seems dumb to take a guy they seem excited to later be a top 20 player at #8.1.08 - RB Ryan Mathews ®
I admit that I don't know/remember who Chris Dolfi and Tom Walls are, but other than having an interesting article to explain their pick at 1.08, the actual pick is dumb in my opinion.....here is their comment:
"We swing for the fences here. Yes Michael Turner was there. Yes Randy Moss and Reggie Wayne were there - and no, they won't be around for our second pick. We're changing our philosophy in this year's FAD (more on that with our second round pick); and wanted to get a very good RB here. The Chargers traded up a bunch in the first round to take this kid with the #12 pick; he's been practicing with the first team, and Norv Turner has been singing his praises. We think this kid needs to excel to help Norv keep his job, and we think he will. Is it a stretch to take him here? Maybe - given current rankings on him, but we expect him to be in the top 20 in forecasts come August, and think he will have an excellent year."
Okay, I like Matthews. I saw him play in college and I think he landed in a very good situation and obviously San Diego liked him enough to trade up for him....BUT they could have taken anyone they wanted at 1.08 and still have drafted Matthews at 2.05, so I just don't understand the selection from a draft standpoint.
This pick was more about the WR we end up with in round 2 than Ryan Mathews (see the comment about projections above) - if we thought the other RBs were as good as Mathews, we would have taken the WR in round 1... We knew that given the PPR weighting we had to be more WR heavy than in the past - and that meant only 1 RB in the first two rounds (and at the time - we thought likely first 3 rounds); it had to be the best RB - no matter how other people rank him currently.
Basically, we took the best player left on our draft board...And we expect other people to adjust their forecasts after training camp begins and pre-season begins (doing this in mid May can rpesent some challenges...)
Anyway, I enjoy seeing your takes on our team and the other teams...and wish you luck going forward!
Some more analysis:So we are quarter way in to the season and the experts that endorsed taking Ryan Mathews at 1.08 are 2nd to last in total points. They probably would have been dead last if they didn't take a flier on Arian Foster in the 20th round.Round 20
http://youthfantasyfootball.com/fanex/fad2010.htm
20.01 - RB Brian Westbrook
20.02 - PK Ryan Succop
20.03 - QB Jim Sorgi
20.04 - DT Texans
20.05 - RB Arian Foster
20.06 - WR Earl Bennett
20.07 - PK Joe Nedney
20.08 - DT Cardinals
20.09 - PK Adam Vinatieri
20.10 - PK Matt Bryant
20.11 - PK Nick Folk
20.12 - TE Ben Watson
Wow Foster in round 20 pick of the year!Donnybrook said:Some more analysis:So we are quarter way in to the season and the experts that endorsed taking Ryan Mathews at 1.08 are 2nd to last in total points. They probably would have been dead last if they didn't take a flier on Arian Foster in the 20th round.Round 20
http://youthfantasyfootball.com/fanex/fad2010.htm
20.01 - RB Brian Westbrook
20.02 - PK Ryan Succop
20.03 - QB Jim Sorgi
20.04 - DT Texans
20.05 - RB Arian Foster
20.06 - WR Earl Bennett
20.07 - PK Joe Nedney
20.08 - DT Cardinals
20.09 - PK Adam Vinatieri
20.10 - PK Matt Bryant
20.11 - PK Nick Folk
20.12 - TE Ben Watson
http://www17.myfantasyleague.com/2010/home/31314#0
Did you get Greene in the 3rd ? Not a good pick this year at all that Greene fella.I really, realllllly hope I can nab Shonn Greene in the middle of the 3rd round in some leagues this year. I'm not counting on it though.