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Fantasy impact if Hou@SD is postponed (1 Viewer)

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I have not been following this situation very closely, However the feeling I get from ESPN's ATH and PTI is that the fire situation in the S.D. area has become a major issue. Players are being forced from thier homes and the Chargers have moved practices to Ariz for the week. The S.D. stadium is being used for public evac.

Some of the commentators on these shows were saying if things dont clear up by Thursday or Friday, there is a chance the NFL could Postpone this game. Even play it after week 17 and move the playoffs back a week if need be.

I realize it is still early in the week, and there is no point in getting worked up over a situation that could be a non-issue. I am really just interested if something like this has happened before. Where teams had to move games to different weeks and what type of impact it has on the FF world. I have only been playing FF for about 4 years now, so I cant remember anything like this recently.

 
They will move the game before they postpone it...just like they did 4 years ago with a similar situation with San Diego fires.

 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.

That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.

I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.

 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
The Saints played after Katrina in a makeshift camp in San Antonio......The Chargers will play this weekend, either in LA or Arizona.......
 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
There is a Motorcycle show there this weekend which precludes a Sunday game. But I could see them playing a Monday night game there. If not they could play in LA. Maybe even Mexico City.
 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
The Saints played after Katrina in a makeshift camp in San Antonio......The Chargers will play this weekend, either in LA or Arizona.......
The Saints played a "home" game in the Meadow Lands. They could conceivably play the game in Houston but they did take a bunch of heat for that "home" game 2 years ago...
 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
There is a Motorcycle show there this weekend which precludes a Sunday game. But I could see them playing a Monday night game there. If not they could play in LA. Maybe even Mexico City.
I also heard this morning that Sun Devil stadium could be an option which is only 2 years removed from having an NFL tenant.
 
two more things to add...

Just heard this is the worst fire in the history of the S.D. area & S.D. state head football coach is pushing the Mountain West to postpone thier game. He thinks there is too much going on in the area for anyone to worry about football.

 
If they move it to Az., Sun Devil Stadium (ASU) would be the logical place for a Sunday game, while University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale would be the logical Monday night site.

Seems stupid that the Cards stadium name is as such.

 
Last time this happened (2003 I believe) they moved it to AZ. They might do so again and move it to Monday.

It would be nice to have them up here in LA, but we have about half a dozen fires of our own, so I don't know it's an option. Air quality where I am is already the suck. Won't get better if the winds shift some more, plus there's still a huge amount of burning going on.

Soo AZ makes more sense, given that LA is going through the same thing Sd is.

 
two more things to add...Just heard this is the worst fire in the history of the S.D. area & S.D. state head football coach is pushing the Mountain West to postpone thier game. He thinks there is too much going on in the area for anyone to worry about football.
That's all well and good in college but during Katrina which was arguably a more severe disaster they still played the game. They play this week.
 
There has been mention of Katrina as well as the force this brings towards families and their homes, including players.

The difference here is that the brunt of this tragedy is still underway, with momentum and force of a living fire.

Fire is as real as it gets. I don't know how many are here that have had to deal with this on a personal basis, but fire is a living, breathing entity.

It feeds on fuel and breathes oxygen. There are so many people scurrying for their lives that a football game right now isn't really plausible.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off on a rant, but FIRE! always gets my attention and immediately gains my full respect. As it should.

As for the game, they'll move it long before they postpone it.

 
the new cardinals arena has a roadshow but Sun Devil Stadium (where the Cards used to play and where they hosted the SD game last time) I assume is available.

i also assume the Coliseum would be available in LA.

 
If they move it to Az., Sun Devil Stadium (ASU) would be the logical place for a Sunday game, while University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale would be the logical Monday night site.

Seems stupid that the Cards stadium name is as such.
University of Phoenix paid a boat load of money for the naming rights. it is confusing since the stadium is in Glendale,AZ. Postpone? I just don't see it happening. Pushing playoffs and Superbowl weeks back can be a logistical nightmare for the league. Superbowl dates are planned so far in advanced because of the needs for host cities to plan, 1 week diference could cause chaos.

 
two more things to add...Just heard this is the worst fire in the history of the S.D. area & S.D. state head football coach is pushing the Mountain West to postpone thier game. He thinks there is too much going on in the area for anyone to worry about football.
That's all well and good in college but during Katrina which was arguably a more severe disaster they still played the game. They play this week.
You are probably right, however I cant help to think if the NFL gives the Chargers the option of playing a "home" game in Arizona or postpoing and getting a true home game later in the season, The chargers will take the true home game.With the chargers not having a lock on the playoffs, I could see them wanting a "week 18" home game
 
two more things to add...Just heard this is the worst fire in the history of the S.D. area & S.D. state head football coach is pushing the Mountain West to postpone thier game. He thinks there is too much going on in the area for anyone to worry about football.
That's all well and good in college but during Katrina which was arguably a more severe disaster they still played the game. They play this week.
You are probably right, however I cant help to think if the NFL gives the Chargers the option of playing a "home" game in Arizona or postpoing and getting a true home game later in the season, The chargers will take the true home game.With the chargers not having a lock on the playoffs, I could see them wanting a "week 18" home game
A "home" game in Arizona is much more a home game for the Chargers than the Texans. No way they postpone the playoffs because of this....
 
So here's a question we sort of touched on earlier - but let's say they postpone it.

How would your league handle it? It means an extra bye week having to be dealt with by SD and HOU player owners, which is unfair. But at the same point, if there is no game, there is no game.

How would your league handle it?

 
If Arizona is too close to Houston, they could fly everybody in to Miami and play the game there. It's not like the Dolphins will be using anything at home this week.

 
Also - San Antonio worked for the Saints a few years back.

Clearly my dream scenerio would be Milwaukee. I think its the ideal place for an NFL Franchise.

 
So here's a question we sort of touched on earlier - but let's say they postpone it.How would your league handle it? It means an extra bye week having to be dealt with by SD and HOU player owners, which is unfair. But at the same point, if there is no game, there is no game.How would your league handle it?
It doesn't matter as they won't postpone it.
 
the new cardinals arena has a roadshow but Sun Devil Stadium (where the Cards used to play and where they hosted the SD game last time) I assume is available.i also assume the Coliseum would be available in LA.
I know this will come as a shock, but it seems Mr. Bidwell didn't leave the NFL's relationship with the ASU people in the greatest condition. Lots of discussion amongst the morning talk shows about Monday Night game at the Glendale Spaceship.
 
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So here's a question we sort of touched on earlier - but let's say they postpone it.How would your league handle it? It means an extra bye week having to be dealt with by SD and HOU player owners, which is unfair. But at the same point, if there is no game, there is no game.How would your league handle it?
It doesn't matter as they won't postpone it.
They probably won't, it's unlikely in many ways. But I'm curious how people would handle a switch like that, hypothetically.
 
It will be in AZ on Monday night or it will be postponed. The difference between this and Katrina are these fires are still at 0% containment and burning. It would be like asking the Saints to play the game during the flooding. I suppose that it's possible, but LA has problems too so it's AZ or bust.

 
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two more things to add...Just heard this is the worst fire in the history of the S.D. area & S.D. state head football coach is pushing the Mountain West to postpone thier game. He thinks there is too much going on in the area for anyone to worry about football.
That's all well and good in college but during Katrina which was arguably a more severe disaster they still played the game. They play this week.
You are probably right, however I cant help to think if the NFL gives the Chargers the option of playing a "home" game in Arizona or postpoing and getting a true home game later in the season, The chargers will take the true home game.With the chargers not having a lock on the playoffs, I could see them wanting a "week 18" home game
A "home" game in Arizona is much more a home game for the Chargers than the Texans. No way they postpone the playoffs because of this....
That sure would suck if LT didn't play this week. :shrug:
 
the new cardinals arena has a roadshow but Sun Devil Stadium (where the Cards used to play and where they hosted the SD game last time) I assume is available.i also assume the Coliseum would be available in LA.
I know this will come as a shock, but it seems Mr. Bidwell didn't leave the NFL's relationship with the ASU people in the greatest condition. Lots of discussion amongst the morning talk shows about Monday Night game at the Glendale Spaceship.
no, i know that there may be some political issues to deal with the ASU stadium, but i would assume (hope) that in a time like this regarding two teams who are not run by the bidwells that the ASU stadium would be accomodating.
 
I hear there's a game or something going on in London this week.

Why not make it a double-header for those cranky Brits, and really show them what American football is about. :no:

As for the impact on FF if the game were to simply be postponed - I'd say go with the "extra Bye week" option for your league (if you have a vote). There's really no other way to do it that wouldn't screw with point totals, standings, etc.

I have no idea how the established online services would handle it, but that's the most likely option they'd choose.

 
It will be in AZ on Monday night or it will be postponed. The difference between this and Katrina are these fires are still at 0% containment and burning. It would be like asking the Saints to play the game during the flooding. I suppose that it's possible, but LA has problems too so it's AZ or bust.
Good point. I just looked it up and Katrina hit on Aug 29th and the "home" game played in NY was played on Sept 19th. Just pointing out the timeframe differences between the two situations.I'm still not sold this game will be played this weekend. All we can do is wait. However those posters who think postpoing is out of the question, might be in for a susprise. I cant see the NFL forcing teams to play while something like this is going on. Priorities I guess. I would think the Charger players and staff would be more concerned with losing thier homes than playing a football game.

 
If the fires are at pretty much the point they're at now, I think they play on Monday night (likely in Arizona).

If the fires get worse, I think they probably will have to consider postponing. There is a delicate balance between gutting it out because you're a pro and heartlessly playing while your whole fanbase is fighting for life. I don't think the NFL postpones a game over its players possibly losing houses -- they do it over what is happening with the fanbase. This is similar to what I'd expect them to do if a very strong earthquake hit San Francisco/Oakland on a NFL weekend, even if those teams were on the road.

 
So here's a question we sort of touched on earlier - but let's say they postpone it.How would your league handle it? It means an extra bye week having to be dealt with by SD and HOU player owners, which is unfair. But at the same point, if there is no game, there is no game.How would your league handle it?
It doesn't matter as they won't postpone it.
They probably won't, it's unlikely in many ways. But I'm curious how people would handle a switch like that, hypothetically.
Hypothetically, I would have won the $5B lottery and then I'd just buy both teams and make them play in my backyard. Oh yeah, I'd call the plays too. :goodposting: I can't see any reason the NFL postpones to another week the game rather move it and possibly play it on Monday.
 
So here's a question we sort of touched on earlier - but let's say they postpone it.How would your league handle it? It means an extra bye week having to be dealt with by SD and HOU player owners, which is unfair. But at the same point, if there is no game, there is no game.How would your league handle it?
It doesn't matter as they won't postpone it.
They probably won't, it's unlikely in many ways. But I'm curious how people would handle a switch like that, hypothetically.
It would depend when the game was rescheduled until.
 
I would think they would move it to a close by site. Somewhere else in the L.A. area. Maybe Arizona since they are practicing there and the Cards are on a bye.That is what they did with the Saints when they were using the Superdome as an evac site after Katrina.I'd be shocked if they cancelled the game and made it up at the end of the season.
They mentioned LA as a possibility. However the Ariz stadium has a car show or something this weekend.The ESPN guys seemed more concern about the possible personal issues the players are facing (losing a home, family in danger) as the prime reason to postpone the game
There's gotta be more than 1 stadium in AZ, right? Two major colleges in town, I would say that all of these teams don't play at the new Cardinals venue. The NFL will make the game happen, rain or shine, or fire, in this case.
 
I think it is in the best interest of SD to postpone this game(bottom line issues/tragedy). This isn't similar to Katrina at all, as this tragedy is occuring as I type this.

 
FWIW, this is how my league would handle a postponement:

D. NFL Game Cancelled/Postponed Indefinitely – In the event an NFL game gets cancelled or postponed indefinitely, and it affects the lineups of teams involved, the following procedure will take place (provided the game won’t be made up before the next round of games): the highest scoring bench player at the position being affected will be substituted for the player whose game has been cancelled. Example: Team A has Ronnie Brown starting at running back. A hurricane cancels Miami’s game, and it won’t be made up for a month. Team A has 3 running backs who didn’t start, the best of whom, Jamal Lewis, scored 5 points in his contest that same weekend. Lewis would then replace Brown in Team A’s lineup and Team A’s score would be adjusted accordingly.

 
FWIW, this is how my league would handle a postponement:

D. NFL Game Cancelled/Postponed Indefinitely – In the event an NFL game gets cancelled or postponed indefinitely, and it affects the lineups of teams involved, the following procedure will take place (provided the game won’t be made up before the next round of games): the highest scoring bench player at the position being affected will be substituted for the player whose game has been cancelled. Example: Team A has Ronnie Brown starting at running back. A hurricane cancels Miami’s game, and it won’t be made up for a month. Team A has 3 running backs who didn’t start, the best of whom, Jamal Lewis, scored 5 points in his contest that same weekend. Lewis would then replace Brown in Team A’s lineup and Team A’s score would be adjusted accordingly.
I like that - it makes alot of sense.I know it's all hypothetical and I know more than a few of you have shown your disdain for the question, but it's a well reasoned and intelligent response like this that brings me to this board.

Thanks Comet. I think something like that league rule would make alot of sense AND cover you in the event of somethign that happens suddenly, leaving no time to shift lineups or consider other player options.

 
If the fires are at pretty much the point they're at now, I think they play on Monday night (likely in Arizona).

If the fires get worse, I think they probably will have to consider postponing. There is a delicate balance between gutting it out because you're a pro and heartlessly playing while your whole fanbase is fighting for life. I don't think the NFL postpones a game over its players possibly losing houses -- they do it over what is happening with the fanbase. This is similar to what I'd expect them to do if a very strong earthquake hit San Francisco/Oakland on a NFL weekend, even if those teams were on the road.
17 October 1989? ETA: there are obvious differences, but hardly the first time nature has affected sports

 
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If the fires are at pretty much the point they're at now, I think they play on Monday night (likely in Arizona).

If the fires get worse, I think they probably will have to consider postponing. There is a delicate balance between gutting it out because you're a pro and heartlessly playing while your whole fanbase is fighting for life. I don't think the NFL postpones a game over its players possibly losing houses -- they do it over what is happening with the fanbase. This is similar to what I'd expect them to do if a very strong earthquake hit San Francisco/Oakland on a NFL weekend, even if those teams were on the road.
17 October 1989? ETA: there are obvious differences, but hardly the first time nature has affected sports
That's exactly what I was thinking of. I couldn't remember how it impacted the 49ers, but I have figured it out now. The earthquake was on a Tuesday. The 9ers played on Sunday at Stanford Stadium. That's five days -- a pretty reasonable time if you ask me. If the earthquake had been Saturday, I think they would have almost certainly delayed the game.
 
I still think some of you are selling this situation short.

Nearly 1 million people have been evacuated from the SD area. Sounds like these fires will spread until Thursday when the winds die down and fire crews can come in and contain the damage.

 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/foot...d.ap/index.html

San Diego St.-BYU game postponed

Game will be pushed back to Dec. 1 because of fires

"There is a far greater priority than sporting events in the San Diego area at this time," Mountain West Conference commissioner Craig Thompson said in a statement. "The focus should be on emergency response and resources, and getting the community back on its feet. Our thoughts are with our colleagues at San Diego State University, as well as everyone who has been affected by this disaster."

Thompson made the decision to postpone, on a recommendation by SDSU.

"If we took away even one evacuee because we wanted to play a football game, that just wouldn't be right," athletic director Jeff Schemmel said. "This is far, far more important."

 
FWIW, this is how my league would handle a postponement:

D. NFL Game Cancelled/Postponed Indefinitely – In the event an NFL game gets cancelled or postponed indefinitely, and it affects the lineups of teams involved, the following procedure will take place (provided the game won’t be made up before the next round of games): the highest scoring bench player at the position being affected will be substituted for the player whose game has been cancelled. Example: Team A has Ronnie Brown starting at running back. A hurricane cancels Miami’s game, and it won’t be made up for a month. Team A has 3 running backs who didn’t start, the best of whom, Jamal Lewis, scored 5 points in his contest that same weekend. Lewis would then replace Brown in Team A’s lineup and Team A’s score would be adjusted accordingly.
Not a bad rule, but likely more aimed at a game getting "rained out" (i.e., hurricane in Florida), decision not made until Sunday sort of thing. In any event your league has a rule in place to cover this scenario. In some leagues that do not have a rule that covers this situation one may get some LOUD push back from some owners (those that perhaps do not have any SD/Hous starters). They will contend that "stuff happens", injuries, a star player's wife gives birth, personal tragedy or natural disaster. Thus, the LT/Gates owners will have to turn to their bench or WW and simply field a different team. Also, if the LT team has backup RB's that include W Dunn, J Jones and R Droughns some may whine to the extent that Droughns unexpectedly scores ~ 20+ fantasy points (like he did a few weeks back) and Droughns gets put in the lineup over what would appear to be more viable alternatives.Anyway, if the game gets postponed to after Week 9 I think that most leagues who have no rule in place and play in a H-2-H format will simply treat this as an "injury" situation. The owners will know in advance by Friday of this week and will simply have to adjust their lineups -- that will be my ruling in the 3 leagues that I commish.

 
FWIW, this is how my league would handle a postponement:

D. NFL Game Cancelled/Postponed Indefinitely – In the event an NFL game gets cancelled or postponed indefinitely, and it affects the lineups of teams involved, the following procedure will take place (provided the game won’t be made up before the next round of games): the highest scoring bench player at the position being affected will be substituted for the player whose game has been cancelled. Example: Team A has Ronnie Brown starting at running back. A hurricane cancels Miami’s game, and it won’t be made up for a month. Team A has 3 running backs who didn’t start, the best of whom, Jamal Lewis, scored 5 points in his contest that same weekend. Lewis would then replace Brown in Team A’s lineup and Team A’s score would be adjusted accordingly.
Not a bad rule, but likely more aimed at a game getting "rained out" (i.e., hurricane in Florida), decision not made until Sunday sort of thing. In any event your league has a rule in place to cover this scenario. In some leagues that do not have a rule that covers this situation one may get some LOUD push back from some owners (those that perhaps do not have any SD/Hous starters). They will contend that "stuff happens", injuries, a star player's wife gives birth, personal tragedy or natural disaster. Thus, the LT/Gates owners will have to turn to their bench or WW and simply field a different team. Also, if the LT team has backup RB's that include W Dunn, J Jones and R Droughns some may whine to the extent that Droughns unexpectedly scores ~ 20+ fantasy points (like he did a few weeks back) and Droughns gets put in the lineup over what would appear to be more viable alternatives.Anyway, if the game gets postponed to after Week 9 I think that most leagues who have no rule in place and play in a H-2-H format will simply treat this as an "injury" situation. The owners will know in advance by Friday of this week and will simply have to adjust their lineups -- that will be my ruling in the 3 leagues that I commish.
Our rule is pretty simple, too. You get the average of all RBs (or whatever position) scored that week. I think it's pretty reasonable from the owner and opponent perspectives, and it doesn't punish teams who have a viable starter (LT) but a bunch of guys on byes that week. It's never been used, but it seems like it would work.
 
I heard this morning that Texas Stadium in Dallas is also being considered. Si noted it in their latest update:

SI

 
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If the fires are at pretty much the point they're at now, I think they play on Monday night (likely in Arizona).

If the fires get worse, I think they probably will have to consider postponing. There is a delicate balance between gutting it out because you're a pro and heartlessly playing while your whole fanbase is fighting for life. I don't think the NFL postpones a game over its players possibly losing houses -- they do it over what is happening with the fanbase. This is similar to what I'd expect them to do if a very strong earthquake hit San Francisco/Oakland on a NFL weekend, even if those teams were on the road.
17 October 1989? ETA: there are obvious differences, but hardly the first time nature has affected sports
That's exactly what I was thinking of. I couldn't remember how it impacted the 49ers, but I have figured it out now. The earthquake was on a Tuesday. The 9ers played on Sunday at Stanford Stadium. That's five days -- a pretty reasonable time if you ask me. If the earthquake had been Saturday, I think they would have almost certainly delayed the game.
It can't be moved anywhere down here in So-Cal as the air is so bad that all high school sports have been canceled for the week and kids have been indoors during the school day during recesses and lunches. It will have to be moved as the fires will run until the middle to end of next week on the short end and another 7-10 days on the long end.

 
FWIW, this is how my league would handle a postponement:

D. NFL Game Cancelled/Postponed Indefinitely – In the event an NFL game gets cancelled or postponed indefinitely, and it affects the lineups of teams involved, the following procedure will take place (provided the game won’t be made up before the next round of games): the highest scoring bench player at the position being affected will be substituted for the player whose game has been cancelled. Example: Team A has Ronnie Brown starting at running back. A hurricane cancels Miami’s game, and it won’t be made up for a month. Team A has 3 running backs who didn’t start, the best of whom, Jamal Lewis, scored 5 points in his contest that same weekend. Lewis would then replace Brown in Team A’s lineup and Team A’s score would be adjusted accordingly.
my first reaction to this would be that this rule could be manipulated by any owner of any Hous/SD (Turner, Sproles, Dayne, Schaub, etc) player....I would make sure they were in my starting lineup and then I would get the best of any guy on my bench at that position.....QB could be a huge problem.....and if Sproles was on the WW I might pick him up to use this rule to my advantage if I didn't own any other SD/Hous players.....
 
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