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Fargo TV series on FX - season 3 starts TONIGHT 4/19!!! (1 Viewer)

Well it was good for three episodes. It's rare to see a drop-off like that in one episode.

I love how Hanks knows Billy Bob is the guy because he called him "Malvo" and he turned around. Not that he pulled him over the night of the murders and obviously knows Billy Bob is the guy. :wall: x's 100.

I just love how the cops do everything to side with the perp and not their own people. What universe is this show in? Hard to know where to start. Maybe ask Billy Bob what he was doing down there and why he was outside the house?

On a scale of 1-10, that was a 10 for spectacularly bad.

So far beyond the realm that Jon Hamm is going to scout Billy Bob for the majors next episode.

:X
I still think it was a good episode because this show is very enjoyable even when it stretches (like the original BB intimidating Hanks scene), but that was all pretty silly.

It's not just this show though, it's like a law in TV land that if there is an police dept or crime fighting agency, it must be run by idiots just getting in the way of good cops trying to solve the case. You get close enough to solving it, and you are about to be "off the case".

I'm not sure why there was so much confusion over why he was brought in for questioning. Hey, uh, we have a picture that's a screen grab from multiple surveillance cameras, along with a half dozen eyeball witnesses that saw you drag a guy, who would turn up dead in 24 hours, out of his office by his necktie, strip him, and stuff him in a trunk. Ugh.

Then, "hey Chief, we've just got 2 eyeball witnesses that place this "preacher" in a motel in the town he just said he's never been too". "Nothing we can do about that now, we've already started the process of escorting him out of the building"

Also funny, that they will take a couple of minutes to really nail down his preacher and Tuesday bingo night alibis, but they can't be bothered to do any leg work following up on any evidence Hanks brought to them.

Okay, it was all pretty bad (though not uncommon on TV).

 
Felt like a bit of a "filler" episode. Nothing really changed, just got more of it. Oliver Platt got more plagues. Billy Bob is still free but under more suspicion. Lester is still wanted by Adam Goldberg, but now Adam's closer. The lady cop who's one of the best parts of the show was barely in it, she got more sidelined by the inept sheriff.

 
The only thing that keeps getting me, is why didn't Lester take the buck shot out of his hand. it isn't like that part of your hand is deep tissue. He could have pulled that out, cleaned area and likely could have avoided infection.

I get it is TV, and they need that for the story. But it just seemed so obvious to pull that out. if I recall he was about ready to pinch it out couple episodes back and someone interrupted him.

 
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This show rules beyond ruling. Approaching firefly levels.
Does not compute. Firefly was pretty lame.
Firefly is great. It's your shtick that is lame.
It's not shtick. I just have ####ty taste.
Say's the guy who likes Firefly.
Who is Say?
Not sure but he owns something.

 
That was a fantastic episode, I love Daywalker trying to break down the logistics of the police ineptitude as if this is a real case. The show has been stretching logic about and been absurd in an entertaining way. This show is not to be picked apart since every episode has scenes that don't really make sense when analyzed such as Billy Bob slaying the dog and swapping pills a few feet away from Platt when he could have easily done it at a safer hour.

That smile by Goldberg was such a perfect capper to the episode. My question, were Goldberg and the deaf dude getting in a fight to meet up with Lester in jail or was that coincidence? The smile by Goldberg has me thinking it was dumb luck.

 
That smile by Goldberg was such a perfect capper to the episode. My question, were Goldberg and the deaf dude getting in a fight to meet up with Lester in jail or was that coincidence? The smile by Goldberg has me thinking it was dumb luck.
I thought they clearly staged that to get arrested since they watched Lester get taken away. Although they may have been taking out some anger at each other at the same time.

 
That was a fantastic episode, I love Daywalker trying to break down the logistics of the police ineptitude as if this is a real case. The show has been stretching logic about and been absurd in an entertaining way. This show is not to be picked apart since every episode has scenes that don't really make sense when analyzed such as Billy Bob slaying the dog and swapping pills a few feet away from Platt when he could have easily done it at a safer hour.

That smile by Goldberg was such a perfect capper to the episode. My question, were Goldberg and the deaf dude getting in a fight to meet up with Lester in jail or was that coincidence? The smile by Goldberg has me thinking it was dumb luck.
Stretching disbelief is one thing. As in the first three episodes which were terrific. This past episode was well past the line. Can't even see the line.

Swapping the pills a few feet away from Platt is stretching disbelief. That is fine. Having your deputy tell you this is the guy along with a line of witness's as well as a surveillance photo, that everyone immediately recognizes as Billy Bob except the police chiefs, is another. You might as well have Billy Bob turn into the Hulk and break out of the jail. Would that be stretching logic and absurd in an entertaining way? Ridiculous? Yes. But Billy Bob is closer to a superhero then a real person at this point.

 
Amid a morgue full of bodies in a small town, including the POLICE CHIEF'S, it's not asking much to expect more then basically:

Hanks: Chief, this is the guy I pulled over fleeing the crime scene in Lester's car.

Odenkirk: Well, he says it's not him. I'm going to let him go right this instant.

 
LORNE GETS BUSTED, LESTER RUNS INTO WRENCH AND NUMBERS AGAIN, AND THE SECRET OF STAVROS' FORTUNE IS REVEALED

By Alan Sepinwall Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:09 PM

A review of tonight's "Fargo" coming up just as soon as I know why the human eye can see more shades of green than any other color...
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"That's what you're going to say a couple of hours from now: 'You're making a mistake.'" -Lorne Malvo

Noah Hawley and company have been very cagey in talking about how, if at all, the TV "Fargo" is connected to the movie "Fargo," but "Eating the Blame" opens with a flashback that delightfully draws a direct line between one story and the other, as a young Stavros Milos finds the ransom money that Carl Showalter buried out in the snow near the end of the film. Though we saw the painting of the telltale red ice scraper on Stavors' wall last week, I just took that as another of the series' many winks at the film (and the larger Coen brothers body of work), and was floored and enormously amused to make the discovery here(*). The ice scraper is one of the more memorable visuals from the movie — and also the moment when I figured out the "true story" preface was bogus, since how would anyone have ever known that Carl did this with the money? — and it provides an elegant link between the two stories without unfairly tying either to the other. Marge Gunderson and Jerry Lundegaard exist in the same universe as Molly Solverson and Lester Nygaard, but there's no requirement (or expectation) for them to ever meet.

(*) Though I see in last week's comments that a number of you figured it out, based on the painting and all the talk of where, exactly, Stravros' money came from. I figured/feared that with a smart and lively comments section, people would put 2 and 2 together. Hoping the realization then was as fun for you as seeing it play out in this one was for those of us who didn't solve the puzzle as quickly.

The link comes via Noah Hawley, who is the god of this corner of the "Fargo" universe, and the money leads Stavros to believe deeply and loudly in the existence of the Almighty — and thus to be very susceptible to Lorne Malvo's ongoing Ten Plagues-themed torment. Though Lorne spends a good chunk of "Eating the Blame" getting out of police custody after he and Gus Grimly cross paths again, the episode begins and ends with him causing Stavros no end of mental and spiritual anguish with his various plagues, following up the blood with a plague of bugs invading his flagship supermarket. As Stavros (whose mind is also being altered by the drugs Lorne swapped in for his regular pills) panics and the customers flee the building in haste, we see Lorne standing on the roof, very much the God — or Devil — who is watching this all.

And it's because the show presents Lorne in this almost supernatural way that it's able to mostly get away with the middle section where he's under arrest and neither Gus's boss nor Molly's seems to recognize who and what he really is. Putting Lorne in Gus's path again was inevitable, for both the story and for what seems to be the Gus/Molly character arc, but the show also can't put its villain away with more than half of the season still to go. But it does seem too easy, even if we acknowledge that Bill is an idiot who doesn't trust Molly, that Gus's boss is skeptical of his judgment, etc. Lorne is a chameleon (here conveniently posing as a minister for the sake of all the theological discussion) who is somehow also a predator, but Duluth in 2006 isn't Mayberry in 1956, and it feels like there probably were ways to poke holes in Lorne's story — like, for instance, bringing in any of the people who watched him drag their co-worker out of the office, consulting with the nurse who saw Lorne talking with Lester, etc. That both bosses are so willfully obstinate doesn't give Gus or Molly time to do most of these things, but it's still the first time where the show has pushed Lorne's powers up against their limits.

And yet even with that, he's a black comic wonder, whether patiently trying to coax useful thought and action out of Don, warning Gus of what will happen within a few hours of his arrest, or surveying his vast and terrified kingdom from the supermarket roof.

Though "Fargo" the show now definitively takes place in the same universe as "Fargo" the movie, and though Lorne has certain traits in common with Anton Chigurh, on the whole he feels like a unique creation, and placing him into the same world with Carl and Jerry and the woodchipper has turned the show into something that's linked to the movie while becoming its own weird and wonderful thing.
Some other thoughts:

* This is the first time anyone on the show has uttered the name "Lorne Malvo," and though Lorne doesn't react well when Gus says it to him, I'm skeptical that he would actually put his real name on a motel register like that. But it's the name FX's press notes use for the character (just as it does for Mr. Wrench and Mr. Numbers, who have also not been named in dialogue), so it's what I'm going with until we're told otherwise.

* Chekhov's Blizzard: Bill alerts the other cops about a big storm coming at mid-week, and I'm guessing that will play a role in a future episode. (This was the last I saw in advance, and I should be going week to week from here to the end of the season.)

* Fienberg published his interview with Adam Goldberg yesterday, in which he talks about the approach to all the ASL conversations between Wrench and Numbers. Interestingly, they get subtitles this week when they're on their own, and their bickering does suggest, as Goldberg suggests they were told to play it, an old married couple.

* Also, Wrench's deafness becomes a problem for them for the first time when Lester is able to escape their deep freeze treatment when he tasers Numbers while Wrench has his back turned. (Though it's also possible a hearing man wouldn't have noticed either, given the noise of the ice auger.) The close quarters they wind up in after all three deliberately get themselves arrested should lead to some awkward moments next week.

What did everybody else think?
That was putting it nicely.

 
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So after the last episode, it appears that this is almost a sequel to Fargo. Was that news to everyone before the series started? Or was I late to the party on knowing that, as usual?

 
So after the last episode, it appears that this is almost a sequel to Fargo. Was that news to everyone before the series started? Or was I late to the party on knowing that, as usual?
Did not realize that until Stavros finds the money last episode.

I was actually annoyed for a bit with the Internet references, laptops and cell phones because I thought they out of place for the 80s. Just last night realized that the show is set in 2006.

 
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Amid a morgue full of bodies in a small town, including the POLICE CHIEF'S, it's not asking much to expect more then basically:

Hanks: Chief, this is the guy I pulled over fleeing the crime scene in Lester's car.

Odenkirk: Well, he says it's not him. I'm going to let him go right this instant.
Odenkirk isn't Hanks' chief.

FWIW they have been making it clear that Hanks isn't exactly a trusted and respected member of the force. His boss doesn't have any faith in him, which makes it less of a stretch when his story is dismissed.

 
LORNE GETS BUSTED, LESTER RUNS INTO WRENCH AND NUMBERS AGAIN, AND THE SECRET OF STAVROS' FORTUNE IS REVEALED

By Alan Sepinwall Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:09 PM

A review of tonight's "Fargo" coming up just as soon as I know why the human eye can see more shades of green than any other color...
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"That's what you're going to say a couple of hours from now: 'You're making a mistake.'" -Lorne Malvo

Noah Hawley and company have been very cagey in talking about how, if at all, the TV "Fargo" is connected to the movie "Fargo," but "Eating the Blame" opens with a flashback that delightfully draws a direct line between one story and the other, as a young Stavros Milos finds the ransom money that Carl Showalter buried out in the snow near the end of the film. Though we saw the painting of the telltale red ice scraper on Stavors' wall last week, I just took that as another of the series' many winks at the film (and the larger Coen brothers body of work), and was floored and enormously amused to make the discovery here(*). The ice scraper is one of the more memorable visuals from the movie — and also the moment when I figured out the "true story" preface was bogus, since how would anyone have ever known that Carl did this with the money?
I stopped reading here. :lmao:

 
Amid a morgue full of bodies in a small town, including the POLICE CHIEF'S, it's not asking much to expect more then basically:

Hanks: Chief, this is the guy I pulled over fleeing the crime scene in Lester's car.

Odenkirk: Well, he says it's not him. I'm going to let him go right this instant.
Odenkirk isn't Hanks' chief.

FWIW they have been making it clear that Hanks isn't exactly a trusted and respected member of the force. His boss doesn't have any faith in him, which makes it less of a stretch when his story is dismissed.
:goodposting: he is basically "Animal Control"..

Not to mention they were given a name, alibi and a city to call. From what I recall he didn't give them any phone number he just said, Call anyone in the phone book.. they called and got verification he was a preacher, and was calling a bingo game the night he was to have been pulled over in Duluth.

Also, someone else posted "Why not bring in the witnesses from the office where the guy was dragged out of"

It's not like that was 20 minutes away.. It happened on the other side of the state in Fargo, ND.

So with nothing else to go on but a fuzzy black & white photo, and a verified alibi, it is not hard to fathom they would release him rather then spend the money to transport witness across the state.

 
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Excellent episode tonight. Seemed like 4 times as much happened as in the previous episode, the overall tone got darker, cuts from past to present scenes done very well. Excellent.

 
LORNE GETS BUSTED, LESTER RUNS INTO WRENCH AND NUMBERS AGAIN, AND THE SECRET OF STAVROS' FORTUNE IS REVEALED

By Alan Sepinwall Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:09 PM

A review of tonight's "Fargo" coming up just as soon as I know why the human eye can see more shades of green than any other color...
share-pin.png
share-gplus.png
share-tw.png
share-fb.png

"That's what you're going to say a couple of hours from now: 'You're making a mistake.'" -Lorne Malvo

Noah Hawley and company have been very cagey in talking about how, if at all, the TV "Fargo" is connected to the movie "Fargo," but "Eating the Blame" opens with a flashback that delightfully draws a direct line between one story and the other, as a young Stavros Milos finds the ransom money that Carl Showalter buried out in the snow near the end of the film. Though we saw the painting of the telltale red ice scraper on Stavors' wall last week, I just took that as another of the series' many winks at the film (and the larger Coen brothers body of work), and was floored and enormously amused to make the discovery here(*). The ice scraper is one of the more memorable visuals from the movie — and also the moment when I figured out the "true story" preface was bogus, since how would anyone have ever known that Carl did this with the money?
I stopped reading here. :lmao:
:goodposting: :lmao:

 
Lots of things left up in the air after this episode.

Is she dead?

Where's the deaf guy?

When does Lester's brother get arrested?

 
Wow this is one dark and twisted show. Great episode, even with Lesters impossible switcheroo to get out of, and back into the hospital room.

4 episodes left.

 

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