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Fargo TV series on FX - season 3 starts TONIGHT 4/19!!! (1 Viewer)

tdoss said:
Did you not see the post that I replied the above response towards? 

The step dad was like 80+ years old.

This happened in 2010.

Flashback shows him to be in his 20's.

Let's say he's 29, just for giggles...add 35 and he should only be 64.

Even if he was 39 in the flashback, it doesn't make sense. 

For this to make any sense, he has to be lying about who he is...

The waitress she found seems about right in age...so how does that work?  Did he age 20 years faster than her? 
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Could be 80...could be late 60s I guess https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fargo/images/0/0a/Ennis.png/revision/latest?cb=20170420212449

And Vivian could have been a 20 year old starlet in 1975.  Not to mention it's not crazy to assume she'd age a lot better than some nerd.

 
Reg Lllama of Brixton said:
Could be 80...could be late 60s I guess https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fargo/images/0/0a/Ennis.png/revision/latest?cb=20170420212449

And Vivian could have been a 20 year old starlet in 1975.  Not to mention it's not crazy to assume she'd age a lot better than some nerd.
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I'm not sure I follow anything you're saying and oddly you've missed what I've said twice now.

Ennis Stussy is said to be 82 years old when he died in 2010.

That means he was born in 1928.

We flashback to 1975...where he looks to be in his 20's...but he'd have to be 47.

Did he look freaking FORTY SEVEN YEARS OLD in those flashbacks?

No...so obviously he's lying about who he is/was or this is an incredible flaw in the show.

I don't assume it's a flaw...it's too obvious.

But it is jarring and hard to resolve mentally until its explained.

As for Vivian, no one is arguing that she's incorrectly cast or aged incorrectly.  I said specifically that she looks about right.

 
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tdoss said:
I'm not sure I follow anything you're saying and oddly you've missed what I've said twice now.

Ennis Stussy is said to be 82 years old when he died in 2010.

That means he was born in 1928.

We flashback to 1975...where he looks to be in his 20's...but he'd have to be 47.

Did he look freaking FORTY SEVEN YEARS OLD in those flashbacks?

No...so obviously he's lying about who he is/was or this is an incredible flaw in the show.

I don't assume it's a flaw...it's too obvious.

But it is jarring and hard to resolve mentally until its explained.

As for Vivian, no one is arguing that she's not incorrectly cast or aged incorrectly.  I said specifically that she look about right.
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Yeah. Jay Cutler.

 
Walking Boot said:
"Ennis Stussy" may have just lied about his age when he got to Minnesota. Maybe he bought some bogus social security number along the way. His identity was fake. Maybe? 
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That's what I'm assuming...there's obviously some misdirection there.

Dude looked older than the hills though...but that's not a biggie.

Maybe he killed the writer and really isn't who he says he is/was...

Should be interesting to watch unfold but it was definitely a headscratcher from the very moment the flashback started and was hard to focus otherwise because of it.

 
tdoss said:
Did you not see the post that I replied the above response towards? 

The step dad was like 80+ years old.

This happened in 2010.

Flashback shows him to be in his 20's.

Let's say he's 29, just for giggles...add 35 and he should only be 64.

Even if he was 39 in the flashback, it doesn't make sense. 

For this to make any sense, he has to be lying about who he is...

The waitress she found seems about right in age...so how does that work?  Did he age 20 years faster than her? 
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thats what drugs do to ya  :P

 
Capella said:
Who gives a #### about his age? Why do people think about these things? They're actors on a tv show. 
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You're kidding, right?

We're not taking about, "Who's mowing the lawns" in The Walking Dead here.

This is more like as if it had Jack Benny playing Ennis Stussy in the 1975 flashback scenes.

So you'd just sit there and continue drooling on yourself, not bothering to wipe the Cheetos from your chin and lifting your head up from the bong long enough to question the fact that Jack Benny died in 1974?

 
tdoss said:
You're kidding, right?

We're not taking about, "Who's mowing the lawns" in The Walking Dead here.

This is more like as if it had Jack Benny playing Ennis Stussy in the 1975 flashback scenes.

So you'd just sit there and continue drooling on yourself, not bothering to wipe the Cheetos from your chin and lifting your head up from the bong long enough to question the fact that Jack Benny died in 1974?
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Man you are way too angry about this. I don't care enough to think about it, it's a ####ing tv show not a historical accounting. Find something else to worry about. 

 
Knowing the Fargo writers I expect as the season goes on the "reasoning" behind the age issue will come out. But seems in todays world we want answers NOW!

Dam the writers for not giving all answers to all questions right away :rant:  

 
snogger said:
Knowing the Fargo writers I expect as the season goes on the "reasoning" behind the age issue will come out. But seems in todays world we want answers NOW!

Dam the writers for not giving all answers to all questions right away :rant:  
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In fairness, some never had questions to begin with. Oddly enough, some even got angry about others getting angry. 

 
Hawley has been involved in trying to bring Cat's Cradle to TV, which means he's probably a Vonnegut fan. If you've read a lot of Vonnegut, you know he has a recurring character named Kilgore Trout who writes science fiction very similar to what we saw with the Android in the last episode. I assume this is an homage to Vonnegut/Trout.

Vonnegut/Trout would often have time-travel/space-travel throughout their stories, and Fargo already brought in a UFO, so maybe the age thing is deliberate and will be explained through time travel or something that will have half of you lose your minds.

I've wandered into major nerd territory here, but if you've read Vonnegut as much as I have, Kilgore Trout jumped into your head the moment she found his novels under the floor.

 
Walking Boot said:
I believe I heard the same about Hawley recently in the Cat's Cradle episode of The Kurt Vonneguys Podcast. If you're a serious Vonnenut, check it out. It's a pretty deep dive into the Vonneworld with a couple of serious Vonnenerds from Cracked.
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are there any eps where Vonnegut gets railed from behind by Philip K ****?

 
BustedKnuckles said:
hey you`re allowed to guess and call it a fact ...right?
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According to tdoss and shady it's a reason to get super pissed. Never mind that the guy likely changed his age to match the name change to stay in hiding from that little attempt murder. No, the producers just don't know what they're doing and it's a huge flaw that took them right out of the show. Like having a dachshund play scooby doo or whatever. 

 
Capella said:
According to tdoss and shady it's a reason to get super pissed. Never mind that the guy likely changed his age to match the name change to stay in hiding from that little attempt murder. No, the producers just don't know what they're doing and it's a huge flaw that took them right out of the show. Like having a dachshund play scooby doo or whatever. 
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Never really think i gave the impression I was super pissed 

 
It was very noticeable too me because when the cop visited Fitzgerald in the nursing home he was a similar age to ennis but 35 years earlier there was a HUGE age gap. 

 
Walking Boot said:
Dude. Give 'em a few episodes to get around to explaining the backstory. If it's still bugging you later, then bring it up again.
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Yeah, I agree. There are several parts of episode 3 that are likely to be more fully explained or developed in subseqent episodes.

 
tdoss said:
That's what I'm assuming...there's obviously some misdirection there.

Dude looked older than the hills though...but that's not a biggie.

Maybe he killed the writer and really isn't who he says he is/was...

Should be interesting to watch unfold but it was definitely a headscratcher from the very moment the flashback started and was hard to focus otherwise because of it.
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couldn't agree more.   This episode was somewhat junk, but sometimes I am too. 

 
Walking Boot said:
I mean, technically, that's episode 3 of a 10 episode season. That's still in Act I of the season-long arc. They're just setting up the mysteries and the weirdness. They're maneuvering the pieces into place that will construct the dramatic push through the rest of the episodes.

If it was a one-off episode of a TV show like Elementary or Law and Order or something, where each episode is an individual, self-contained story, then, yeah, it's an annoyance. But, as part of a longer story, just consider the season a single 10-hour movie, of which we're not even a third of the way into it. We're just wrapping up the intro to the characters, relationships, and narrative thrust. There's a lot to go and nothing is being answered at this point in the story. We don't even know half of the backstory yet. It's all still creating atmosphere before unwrapping the mysteries.
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That whole episode felt like a one off that had nothing to do with the main story. The main character even says so at the end. 

 
Capella said:
According to tdoss and shady it's a reason to get super pissed. Never mind that the guy likely changed his age to match the name change to stay in hiding from that little attempt murder. No, the producers just don't know what they're doing and it's a huge flaw that took them right out of the show. Like having a dachshund play scooby doo or whatever. 
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You're completely mental.

A few of us questioned the age difference...a few decided to act like it wasn't a flaw...not even worthy of consideration.

As if our math is wrong...even going so far as to say he's maybe 35 in the flashback and 70 when killed.

THAT is what definitely caused me to jump back in and reiterate that those are insane premises.

As for saying the producers don't know what they're doing...am I not the first person to say that I don't think it to be a flaw...that there must be a reason for it?

You are the one that keeps digging in on this nonsense...where a levelheaded person would've just simply responded to the first post with, "Yea...age does seem off...but like you said, I'm sure there's reasoning behind it."

But nope...you gotta immediately run to your bunker and drag this damn conversation out with nonsense premises and calling people angry.

 
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Last weeks episode left me kind of numb.   Just didn't get what her search in California accomplishes & how it relates to future episodes.  Seemed like a waste of 1 hour.   Any insight?

thanks.

 
Gustavo Fring said:
Agree - I didn't think it was necessarily a bad episode, but just felt like they didn't move the main plot forward much at all in this past episode.
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It advanced the growth of the main character and and ultimately sent the message that coincidence is sometimes merely that. Which is important for her to learn because stussys death was purely unfortunate coincidence since he wasn't the intended victim. This comes from a show where people read connections into everything. So in a sense they trolled us. I thought it was brilliant. Add in superb acting and the cool illustrated side story and I thoroughly enjoyed it. 

 
irishidiot said:
Last weeks episode left me kind of numb.   Just didn't get what her search in California accomplishes & how it relates to future episodes.  Seemed like a waste of 1 hour.   Any insight?

thanks.
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It proved to her that sometimes things just are coincidence without meaning. I imagine she will use that lesson to realize that stussy wasn't the intended target and will eventually foil bad hair day ewan Mac Gregory's plan. 

 
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