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Just a reminder, Julius Jones went 17/72/1 against them last week.
Yes, Jax really brought their "A" game against the Super Bowl champs in prime-time.
Jacksonville shut down the entire Pitt offense, not just FWP. They shut down Big Ben, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Haynes, etc.ETA: wrong about playing away last week
They had a passing game.
True.And who was the player who gained 33 total yards and had 17 carries for 7 yards against the Eagles in Week 7 last year, only to see Mike Anderson rush for 21-126-1 and Tatum Bell 14-107-2 the following week.I know you know, and I'm not remotely comparing Parker to LT. It's one week. It happens. Sure I'd be concerned if I'm a Parker owner, but this wasn't anything close to Pittsburgh's A offense. Or even their C or D offense. That was a flat out F. Credit the Jaguars.
What's low? What type of WR is attractive enough to get FWP?
Im trying to buy FWP low right now...He may take Colston or Cotchery for him, or he may ask for Branch. Im not sure yet if I want to give up Branch though.
i would easily give Branch for Parker. I would easily give Cotch for Parker. Colston, I would have to think about. But, the other two combined are still worth less than Parker
You kidding...I'd trade all three of those WRs for Parker, and no way I'd take any of those WRs for FWP.
The guy is 0-2 right now and desperate. Thats the best time to pounce with a trade offer. I think I can get him. TOmorrow Ill let ya know.
So you are saying that FWP doesn't do as well versus good defenses....thanks for that good insight. FWP is no differnet than many of the 8-15 fantasy RBs....they all struggle versus good defenses. It is really only the studs who can do fine in those games. Look at Lamont Jordan last year...he was the #8 RB.19 yards versus Philly48 yards versus Denver52 yards versus Washington55 yards versus San Diego49 yards versus NYJUnless the RB is a stud, they will usually struggle in games versus tough defenses.
I think if I offered that up, the owner of Parker wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the year.
He hasnt decided if he wants to trade Parker or McGahee yet...but he needs WR help and is willing to unload one of them.This guy traded P Manning last year and missed the playoffs because of it....So Im optimistic about getting one of them.
But the difference is goaline backs will have a better chance of getting a TD to balance out those bad weeks. And a goaline back FWP is not.
Where was this a compare Parker to Jordan thread? I agree with CCF. I will go on record as stating that Willie Parker will not last the year as the Steelers starting RB. Willie Parker will be in the same situation as Kevin Faulk before this season is over. He is not and never will be an every down back nor will he be a yardage back. Willie Parker was a flash in the pan last year and he was able to get himself a nice payday due to the O Line. He will never be a runner to gain yards on his own or push for the first down.
I was just showing an example that most RBs struggle against tough defenses, unless you are a stud. And you will be wrong in your prediction....that I can guarantee you.
There are still a lot of unknowns about Parker, but I'm pretty sure he'll never be as good as Kevin Faulk coming out of the backfield. His worst case is a change of pace back along the lines of Tatum Bell. His best case is a better than that, but exactly how much is the biggest part of that unknown. He may yet see some goal line action, but the Steelers first need to get inside the opponents 40-yard line before we find out.
The only reason I will be wrong in my prediction is if the Steelers decide to stick with the investment and not make the playoffs.
Come back in week ten so I can laugh at you.
In a coma during week 1?
Can you please tell me who you think will take over as the starter. If you say Davenport you will force me to laugh in your face and call you an idiot and that sir I do not want to have to do.
Barry would have had negative yards rushing against that team.I noticed people bringing up Julius Jones. The guy has been looking good.Everyone seems so ready to jump off the FWP bandwagon. Not sure I understand it. It was one game against a stout D. Big Ben should not have been in there. He looked very rusty.
Wait, did you just say the FWP was better than Barry Sanders? You guys are off your ####### rockers.
Exactly. Geez, where is all the FWP bashing coming from? He's not going to remain the starter even? The second he touched the ball there three guys flying at him like missiles and boring him into the ground. Is Ben not going to remain the Pittsburgh quarterback based on last night?
yeah, that's what I said. What is up with all the WillieP bashing??Where the heck was closet dumper last nite ?
Have fun taking candy from a baby.
When a team is the lowest scoring in the league and winless after 2 weeks and down 2 games in the division, sometimes they make a desperate move. I want to be the one to take advantage of it. Frustration sometimes breeds hasty decisions. Call it what you want.Pitt didn't even get close to sniffing the goal line so that wasn't an issue. What I am slightly concerned about is that when Pitt was playing from behind in the 4th and were using their hurry-up package, Hayes was in the whole time (obviously because they needed to pass) and they didn't rotate out. So if you are a FWP and Pitt gets behind by two or more scores late in the game you are going to be out of luck because he probably won't see the field.I'm not overly concerned yet about the goal line situation because no one has stepped up yet. Obviously Cowher would like Davenport to be that guy, but it's yet to be scene if he can handle it. Regardless of who that goal line back ends up being (Davenport or Haynes), they won't have the same role as Bettis of last year. Last year when they needed short yardage or goal line work, it was automatic that Bettis would come in (you could set your watch to it). This year I think it will be more situational and how the game is going, because neither of those two are Bettis. If FWP is rolling then Cowher might even leave him in.In light of all of this, FWP is a solid #2 RB. I mean, I can't think of very many RB2s I'd rather have (maybe Chester, Dunn, Westy or McGahee, but that's about it).
My thoughts are 31 carries and a couple receptions is already more of a workload than any team would LIKE to give its top back. Pitt chooses to give him a "breather" by taking him out of that passing package. The time it stings is when Pitt is behind all game - which likely wont happen too often, this year. Regardless, what more than 30 carries can you ask for? He even got all those goal line looks this week, and scored twice doing so.
Geez some people. The guy goes for 2 td 130 yds. He is not the 3rd down back. Haynes is. Willie will still catch a few passes here & there. But he will not be in there on obvious passing situtations if Pitt is behind.Davenport still has no impact, and will have very little.
