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Favre: The saga continues (for Jets) (1 Viewer)
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Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Love it.Wait a minute, just because he was only caught once doesn't mean he wasn't lying during every injury report ever written. He should have to come forward with every shred of injury report related evidence, and no matter what that evidence concludes, we should assume that every Jets game is tainted and give them a new nickname like the new york cheats. Andat calling anyone who thinks it's wrong to cheat a "hater". I just care about the integrity of the game, and manipulating the injury report is a huge advantage. The Jets did something wrong, and that's why he apologized. I'm thinking two firsts, and suspend the GM for a year. Otherwise Goodell will seem inconsistent.
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
This is gold. Keep up the good work.
mozzy84
Footballguy
now you want to stop with the "hater" after you used it for years on other people who criticized Favre :(
I said "hater" for those who would criticize him EITHER way, no matter what he said. That is surely some subset of those criticizing him now.
"No comment" would be okay, and probably would be best to move on, but he has gotten a crapload of criticism for playing injured, and it might get old if the reporter were picking at it over and over.
I think the Jets do not get penalized. He was practicing and starting every game.
A first yard pick on a technicality that likely gained them no compettive advantage, but was to avoid PR issues, would be way too much.
"No comment" would be okay, and probably would be best to move on, but he has gotten a crapload of criticism for playing injured, and it might get old if the reporter were picking at it over and over.
I think the Jets do not get penalized. He was practicing and starting every game.
A first yard pick on a technicality that likely gained them no compettive advantage, but was to avoid PR issues, would be way too much.
Tau837
Footballguy
When has he blamed an injury other than this case, in which he is simply stating facts?I see him explaining his poor performance while playing hurt, not excusing it. There is a difference.
Tau837
Footballguy
Isn't it obvious that he was being questioned about whether or not he'd accept not playing at some point this season even though it would break his streak? And he responded by citing that he was okay with sitting last season as evidence that it won't be a problem for him if it comes to that this year. I suppose you can question whether he is being truthful, but it's clear why he brought it up IMO.
Billy1x
Footballguy
So what is New England not telling us about Wes Welker. Probably should dock them a couple draft choices for hiding the information. No word on EXACTLY how much damage was done to Brady and how much and where the tears are in his shoulder.
There are a lot of injuries being hidden. River had a torn ACL a year or two ago and they kept it under raps also until after the season was over.
There are a lot of injuries being hidden. River had a torn ACL a year or two ago and they kept it under raps also until after the season was over.
-baller
Footballguy
you know if the jets are pulling this kind of shady bs it's not the first time --- they've gotta have a long ingrained culture of cheating in that front office.
frankly, I don't know how any self respecting football fan could root for that team, or raise his kids to root for those cheaters.
absolute disgrace, imo.
if it was any other team, you know the goodell would be all over it, but I guess it's a nice advantage to have the commissioner in your back pocket as part of the jets extended family.
I guess the rest of the league will just have to work a little harder.
frankly, I don't know how any self respecting football fan could root for that team, or raise his kids to root for those cheaters.
absolute disgrace, imo.
if it was any other team, you know the goodell would be all over it, but I guess it's a nice advantage to have the commissioner in your back pocket as part of the jets extended family.
I guess the rest of the league will just have to work a little harder.
Reaper
Footballguy
PFT
Mangini not out of the woods regarding Jets injury report
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2009 12:02 PM ET
Last week, Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum took the public fall for the realities of having a head coach with a bad habit of talking too little, and a quarterback with a bad habit of talking too much.
The Jets previously had been in the clear for failing to include Brett Favre on the injury report. After the 2008 season ended, Favre immediately started to talk about an arm injury that hampered his performance down the stretch. As the offseason unfolded, it became more and more clear that Favre was indeed injured.
But the league left it alone until last week, when Favre again revisited the issue, saying it was so bad that coach Eric Mangini should have benched him.
So the league no longer could ignore the situation. And not even Mangini, who like Favre no longer works for the Jets, will escape the investigation.
"Since he was head coach of the Jets at the time, we are reviewing his role in the situation as part of the overall review," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the Associated Press on Tuesday.
And, presumably, Mangini can be fined or otherwise punished in his capacity as the head coach of the Browns, if it's determined that he made the decision not to list Favre on the injury report, even though Favre clearly was injured.
Mangini previously has spoken about the competitive advantage that flows from uncertainty regarding injuries, and the league previously has not punished teams for failing to disclose injuries, as long as the player has played.
The problem in this case is that the tenuous facade of open access to information has been disrupted by Favre's candor, and so the league must do something to restore it.
But it likely won't change the reality that the league office typically looks the other way, as long as the player fully participates in practice and plays, when teams like the Steelers don't disclose in the week before the Super Bowl that Ben Roethlisberger as having a rib injury or the Patriots fail to mention that running back Laurence Maroney has a broken shoulder.
Barring a dramatic overhaul of the current system, the league will continue to follow that same approach, unless and until the next Brett Favre repeatedly emphasizes that he played with an injury, in the hopes of ensuring that every American citizen realizes that he has a good excuse for consistently throwing the football to the wrong team.
Mangini not out of the woods regarding Jets injury report
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2009 12:02 PM ET
Last week, Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum took the public fall for the realities of having a head coach with a bad habit of talking too little, and a quarterback with a bad habit of talking too much.
The Jets previously had been in the clear for failing to include Brett Favre on the injury report. After the 2008 season ended, Favre immediately started to talk about an arm injury that hampered his performance down the stretch. As the offseason unfolded, it became more and more clear that Favre was indeed injured.
But the league left it alone until last week, when Favre again revisited the issue, saying it was so bad that coach Eric Mangini should have benched him.
So the league no longer could ignore the situation. And not even Mangini, who like Favre no longer works for the Jets, will escape the investigation.
"Since he was head coach of the Jets at the time, we are reviewing his role in the situation as part of the overall review," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told the Associated Press on Tuesday.
And, presumably, Mangini can be fined or otherwise punished in his capacity as the head coach of the Browns, if it's determined that he made the decision not to list Favre on the injury report, even though Favre clearly was injured.
Mangini previously has spoken about the competitive advantage that flows from uncertainty regarding injuries, and the league previously has not punished teams for failing to disclose injuries, as long as the player has played.
The problem in this case is that the tenuous facade of open access to information has been disrupted by Favre's candor, and so the league must do something to restore it.
But it likely won't change the reality that the league office typically looks the other way, as long as the player fully participates in practice and plays, when teams like the Steelers don't disclose in the week before the Super Bowl that Ben Roethlisberger as having a rib injury or the Patriots fail to mention that running back Laurence Maroney has a broken shoulder.
Barring a dramatic overhaul of the current system, the league will continue to follow that same approach, unless and until the next Brett Favre repeatedly emphasizes that he played with an injury, in the hopes of ensuring that every American citizen realizes that he has a good excuse for consistently throwing the football to the wrong team.
BigGreenMachine
Footballguy
That's hilarious!
BigGreenMachine
Footballguy
Also Hilarious....
Reaper
Footballguy
According to the league and the way they react.. You CAN do it. If the player plays and nothing comes of it then nothing will be done.But, if the player later on publicly confesses to being more hurt, then be expected to pay a whopping fine of 125k.
Not sure what else to tell you or if this helps you out.Best wishes.
Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
Link to Yahoo story - Jets and Mangini fined by NFL
the NFL came off light. they should have taken away a draft pick from the Jets.
the NFL came off light. they should have taken away a draft pick from the Jets.
For the integrity of the league I think the Jets and Patriots should be banned from the league. Just to be safe, we should probably torch any teams those cheats have corrupted.
So let's toss the Browns, Broncos out the window as well. We should probably destroy the Cowboys as well, but that's just because I hate them.
So let's toss the Browns, Broncos out the window as well. We should probably destroy the Cowboys as well, but that's just because I hate them.
