Perfect Tommy
Footballguy
Heck yeah the Packers can win the Superbowl with Brett Favre. He is a great leader and still a pretty darn good QB. Football is still a team sport. Rex Grossman, anybody?
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Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
So you are insisting that if she was not married to Brett Favre she would still be in this much demand as a public speaker and have her name attached to a significant cancer charity?I applaud her for doing something with her "celebrity" (a lot of people don't), but let's not make it into something it isn't. It's great that she beat her cancer, but how many people have beat cancer and aren't invited on speaking tours?You are the back side of a person for this comment. You are showing real class by saying/believing this and not giving any credit to the effort she has put forward. Again, you are an ### if you believe what you wrote.Yeah... I'm sure she did that all on her own. :XI guess you have no idea the charitable work she does including her Hope Foundation for the fight against breast cancer.
Carl Spackler
Footballguy
Very good question and one that is very difficult to give you a yes/no answer. Look at the Saints they were one win away from going to the SB from 3-13 last year, anything is possible nowadays.In this day of the NFL, yes they could win the SB next year with Favre. If the Bears can win the SB with Grossman, which is a very real possibility, yes they can win it next year with Favre.He is better than a lot of QB's in the NFL right now, still probably in the top 10-15. They have a solid DEF, that just kept on getting better, they have a OL that has one full year of playing together now, and that played very well at the end of this past season. They need a few pieces on Offense and they play in the weak NFC.It's a team game now more than anytime in the NFL, so can the Packers win the Super Bowl with Favre next year? Sure, they have as much of a chance as any team.
Carl Spackler
Footballguy
Just stop posting. Everything you are posting about Deanna Favre and her work with the cancer org. is ignorant as hell. Of course she probably wouldn't be a public speaker about cancer if she wasn't married to Favre. But she is, and she's taking advantage of it to help raise money for cancer research, which is a great thing. Why you think this is so bad really reflects on your character. Go away.So you are insisting that if she was not married to Brett Favre she would still be in this much demand as a public speaker and have her name attached to a significant cancer charity?I applaud her for doing something with her "celebrity" (a lot of people don't), but let's not make it into something it isn't. It's great that she beat her cancer, but how many people have beat cancer and aren't invited on speaking tours?You are the back side of a person for this comment. You are showing real class by saying/believing this and not giving any credit to the effort she has put forward. Again, you are an ### if you believe what you wrote.Yeah... I'm sure she did that all on her own.I guess you have no idea the charitable work she does including her Hope Foundation for the fight against breast cancer.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The drama from certain Favre nutlickers and Despyzer aside, I do not see the Packers being a Super Bowl contender next year. Favre isn't as awful as some are making him out to be now, but he is not the player he used to be (38:47 TD:INT ratio over the past two seasons). While the Packers were probably better in '05 than the record indicated, they were not as good in '06 as their record indicated. They were 8-8, but that was in a weak conference, and their last two wins were over a team with a rookie QB (Minnesota) and a team that was resting players for the playoffs and not game-planning to win (Chicago).
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Favre makes an announcement during Super Bowl week, and America lets out a collective yawn.
WHO CARES?
Live in the now - the Bears/Colts are going for the championship - and Favre is fading quickly.
Do you think he has more TDs than INTs next year? Hell, he only had 18 TDs this year.... Hardly a big deal.
Look how far he is down the list of QBs for QB rating:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/QB...NG/2006/regular
WHO CARES?
Live in the now - the Bears/Colts are going for the championship - and Favre is fading quickly.
Do you think he has more TDs than INTs next year? Hell, he only had 18 TDs this year.... Hardly a big deal.
Look how far he is down the list of QBs for QB rating:
http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/QB...NG/2006/regular
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
I suggest you watch a tape of the game to see how long the starters played and how the Packers controlled the game with those starters in.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Just because the starters are in does not mean the coaching staff game-planned to give themselves the best chance to win. Teams will often go with a vanilla offense and/or defense in a meaningless game like that, so as not to give their potential playoff opponents any more game tape to check out. You must be a new football fan, as most knowledgeable football fans know this.I suggest you watch a tape of the game to see how long the starters played and how the Packers controlled the game with those starters in.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
The fact the Bear starters were clearly outplayed week 17 against the Packers.Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
And most knowledgeable football fans know you don't want to enter the postseason laying an egg like the Bears did against the Packers.Just because the starters are in does not mean the coaching staff game-planned to give themselves the best chance to win. Teams will often go with a vanilla offense and/or defense in a meaningless game like that, so as not to give their potential playoff opponents any more game tape to check out. You must be a new football fan, as most knowledgeable football fans know this.I suggest you watch a tape of the game to see how long the starters played and how the Packers controlled the game with those starters in.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
This is either the ranting of a complete GB homer who really thinks the Bears cared about winning that game or a bigThe fact the Bear starters were clearly outplayed week 17 against the Packers.Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Yeah, and that really hurt the Bears, didn't it? They are playing in the Super Bowl today. Where are the Packers?
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
I guess you forgot they almost didn't get past the Seahawks at home. Even most Bear fans were concerned about how the Bears played against the Packers week 17.
Phase of the Game
Footballguy
This is either the ranting of a complete GB homer who really thinks the Bears cared about winning that game or a bigThe fact the Bear starters were clearly outplayed week 17 against the Packers.Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
So you are saying Bears and their coaching staff didn't care about trying to win that game?
SeveredHorseHeads
Footballguy
Congrats on winning your superbowl. The Bears have dominated the Packers the last two years and more specifically, dominated Favre. Now please excuse me, I have to watch the Bears play in the superbowl.This is either the ranting of a complete GB homer who really thinks the Bears cared about winning that game or a bigThe fact the Bear starters were clearly outplayed week 17 against the Packers.Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
So you are saying Bears and their coaching staff didn't care about trying to win that game?
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Wow... this really says a lot about your character. I never once said anything was wrong with her cancer work. I never even implied it was wrong in any way. All I ever said that could even be viewed as negative was that I was surprised there was much demand for her as a public speaker, and that other than being married to Brett and being a cancer-survivor she probably doesn't have much credentials. It takes a pretty sick and twisted mind to turn it into anything bigger than that. In fact, I applauded her for her work. But seeing that is part of "everything" that I posted, you probably view that as ignorant.Can we stop all this pissing now?Carl Spackler said:
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Carl Spackler
Footballguy
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Gridiron Dog
Footballguy
I agree. After reading all the posts in this thread, he's backstepping. He should stop being a tool, and just admit that he probably wasn't aware that her speaking was on behalf of a serious disease. He could even go so far as to say that he thinks it's great that she uses her status as Favre's wife to bring awareness to it. Then we could all stop the pissing!
Rhino
Footballguy
Dang, I need to spend more time in the SP... Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner!Dominating the Packers for the last two years... how does that feel after having the Packers dominate the Bears for almost the past two decades?If you're REALLY a Bears fan then you know that it doesn't matter what week of the season it is, or who's in the playoffs and who isn't... a Bears / Packers game is huge. Neither team wants to lose - especially at home. Hell, Lovie himself stated when he took the Bears HC job that one of his top priorities was to Beat the Pack.Congrats on winning your superbowl. The Bears have dominated the Packers the last two years and more specifically, dominated Favre. Now please excuse me, I have to watch the Bears play in the superbowl.This is either the ranting of a complete GB homer who really thinks the Bears cared about winning that game or a bigThe fact the Bear starters were clearly outplayed week 17 against the Packers.Neither had their spot locked up. The Chargers had to win to assure themselves of home field, and the Ravens could have still gotten home field with a win and a SD loss. What else ya got?I did notice that San Diego and Baltimore won during week 17.I suggest you look up the records and performances in week 17 of teams that already had a first round bye or home field advantage locked up.
So you are saying Bears and their coaching staff didn't care about trying to win that game?
Fla\/\/ed
Footballguy
Now he started a poll about this....http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=304126I agree. After reading all the posts in this thread, he's backstepping. He should stop being a tool, and just admit that he probably wasn't aware that her speaking was on behalf of a serious disease. He could even go so far as to say that he thinks it's great that she uses her status as Favre's wife to bring awareness to it. Then we could all stop the pissing!
rhawkins68
Footballguy
Why would they do that? I have seen this stated a lot and it just is not true.From a coaching stand point I look at it this way. 1) The other teams have plenty of film by the end of the season. there is no way I'm trying to hide what you already know. There is absolutely no reason to hide what you have done for the entire season.2) I want my players and especially my back-ups running EXCATLy what we will be running the majority of time in the play-offs. In fact I see a situation like this as a prime opportunity to get the back-ups up to speed on the system.3) I do not want to go into the play-offs with a loss PERIOD if I even hint at playing starters. It's play the starters and game-plan to win or play the back-ups and game-plan to teach and possibly win. This has to be laid out for the entire week so the players understand what the goal is. Regardless you are using the same schemes and not going vanilla.4) The only plays I would not show would be new ones that have not been put out there yet on film. Every coach will come up with wrinkles or new looks for a play. This is what you do not want to show going in to the play-offs.Just because the starters are in does not mean the coaching staff game-planned to give themselves the best chance to win. Teams will often go with a vanilla offense and/or defense in a meaningless game like that, so as not to give their potential playoff opponents any more game tape to check out.I suggest you watch a tape of the game to see how long the starters played and how the Packers controlled the game with those starters in.
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