Favre to return (1 Viewer)

[Billy Ball Thorton]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Favre and Jeff Garcia are the same age, why don't people say this about him? Trent Green is also close? I remember people doing the same thing to Troy Aikman.

Maybe it's because Jeff Garcia and Trent Green aren't drama queens like Favre.

You are a clueless hater. Get over it !!!

 

[kevthegrad]

YES! Brett is BACK!

 

[redman]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Nope, it will be whenever he gets the TD passing record. I think he only needs around 10 more so I suspect next year will be his final year.Favre is really proving to be a complete prima donna and always needs the spotlight on him which is why I believe he's only in it for the records (pass TD's, extending consecutive game streak, etc.)...nothing like making this announcement 2 days before the Super Bowl so the focus turns to him rather than the most important game of the year. This announcement couldn't have waited another week or two.....of course not.

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.Maybe a committee of fans, players and media can be created as to inform Farve the exact, proper moment to announce his decision for the 2008 NFL season where the timing will not be used to call him a Prima Dona or an attention whore.

At least he's consistent: every time he's been in this situation he's seen fit to look after his own interests above all else. What I love was that he announced two weeks ago that he would announce his decision this week . . . as if he didn't know then what he'd say now.

 

[Banger]

Good for Brett

Bad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

I don't think so, he played poorly last year.

Better than:Carr

Mia's QB

T. Green

Clev's QB

Oak's QB

Wash's QB

B. Johnson

Grossman

Kitna

TB's QB

Alex Smith

Delhomme

Equal to:

Losman

McNair

Eli

Leinart

Cutler

Leftwich

Seems kind of sad when the play of one of the greatest QB's of all time has to be defended with "He is not one of the worst QB's in football, he's average" or "Hey, he's just as good as J.P. Losman!".

Okay well what about this:He's better than any QB that the Packers could possibly acquire for the 2007 season.

Agreed. Yes Favre is not the player he was and I would never debate that. He's FAR FAR superior to anyone on the Pack roster and Driver owners should be rejoicing. If he had a a TE who could catch and a 2nd WR (let alone a 3rd/4th that were NFL worthy) he would have had at least 5 more td's last year and probably 3-4 fewer picks.

 

[Bri]

Considerring GBs inexperience behind him, couldn't he (conceivably) hold out for a huge final paycheck?

 

[Banger]

Considerring GBs inexperience behind him, couldn't he (conceivably) hold out for a huge final paycheck?

Boy this board would have a field day with that. Favre isn't about the money at all IMO. He plays because he loves to play.

 

[snogger]

Now bring in Moss!

Really?I brought this up the other day at the Gas station to some Die Hard Packer Fans..I asked them if they heard the Rumors about Moss & The Pack.Their response almost in unison was:"Even the Packers don't drink that much"

 

[rhawkins68]

Good for Brett

Bad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

I don't think so, he played poorly last year.

According to the stats on nfl.com, Brett ranked 25th in passer rating last year.HERE

And David carr ranked 15th and continued his 100% TOTAL QB SUCKINESS with his 5th straight LOSING season. So what is your point? Fact is, QB rating is meaningless.

Great Posting here.

 

[Challenge Everything]

 

[mr. furley]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Nope, it will be whenever he gets the TD passing record. I think he only needs around 10 more so I suspect next year will be his final year.Favre is really proving to be a complete prima donna and always needs the spotlight on him which is why I believe he's only in it for the records (pass TD's, extending consecutive game streak, etc.)...nothing like making this announcement 2 days before the Super Bowl so the focus turns to him rather than the most important game of the year. This announcement couldn't have waited another week or two.....of course not.

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.Maybe a committee of fans, players and media can be created as to inform Farve the exact, proper moment to announce his decision for the 2008 NFL season where the timing will not be used to call him a Prima Dona or an attention whore.

At least he's consistent: every time he's been in this situation he's seen fit to look after his own interests above all else. What I love was that he announced two weeks ago that he would announce his decision this week . . . as if he didn't know then what he'd say now.

what kills me is that people have this notion of him being some prima donna/attention whore. they create these scenarios in their head whereby Brett is flying planes over every major city announcing his plans for a press conference.when was the last time you saw him mooning on national TV?when was the last time he went on some late night talk show? appeared on SportsCenter just to talk? made a show of anything at all?he has a press conference every tuesday or wednesday during the season. he answers the questions that are asked. he has media hounding him EVERY SINGLE DAY. trust me.. i live here. he has all 3 news outlets, plus radio, chasing him down EVERY DAY all year round. how much do you hear FROM HIM all year? not a lot. you hear media speculation and rumor and a lot of nothing from Favre. people push this boulder downhill and it builds its own momentum. it's talked about so much that people THINK Favre is pushing it... but he's not. has ANYONE seen his face on TV since the last game of the season? can you say that for Manning? Brady? McNabb? these guys are on TV and in the media every week. he didn't call a press conference to announce that he'd make his decision in 2 weeks. some reporter from some small newspaper asked him and he said he'd make his decision during SB week (prime time to release news that slips through the cracks). he made his decision through a small Miss. newspaper and it's done. nobody is talking about it.where is the attention whoring?like one of the local guy said the other day. it's en vogue to bash Favre these days. it's all backlash from the knob slobbing everyone did through the 90s. now it's "cool" to attack the guy. that's fine. people here do it. they're not very bright but they do it.when he finally walks away and people look back at his career they will be astonished all over again.he's the best Packer player ever. that's a MAJOR accomplishment. i dunno what more the guy needs to do?

 

[redman]

Good for Brett

Bad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

I don't think so, he played poorly last year.

Better than:Carr

Mia's QB

T. Green

Clev's QB

Oak's QB

Wash's QB

B. Johnson

Grossman

Kitna

TB's QB

Alex Smith

Delhomme

Equal to:

Losman

McNair

Eli

Leinart

Cutler

Leftwich

Seems kind of sad when the play of one of the greatest QB's of all time has to be defended with "He is not one of the worst QB's in football, he's average" or "Hey, he's just as good as J.P. Losman!".

Okay well what about this:He's better than any QB that the Packers could possibly acquire for the 2007 season.

Agreed. Yes Favre is not the player he was and I would never debate that. He's FAR FAR superior to anyone on the Pack roster and Driver owners should be rejoicing. If he had a a TE who could catch and a 2nd WR (let alone a 3rd/4th that were NFL worthy) he would have had at least 5 more td's last year and probably 3-4 fewer picks.

I agree with all of this. This is directed at how he handled the announcement, and of course is additionally in reaction to the non-stop accolades that the media dumps on him at every, every opportunity.

 

[bbuster]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Nope, it will be whenever he gets the TD passing record. I think he only needs around 10 more so I suspect next year will be his final year.Favre is really proving to be a complete prima donna and always needs the spotlight on him which is why I believe he's only in it for the records (pass TD's, extending consecutive game streak, etc.)...nothing like making this announcement 2 days before the Super Bowl so the focus turns to him rather than the most important game of the year. This announcement couldn't have waited another week or two.....of course not.

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.Maybe a committee of fans, players and media can be created as to inform Farve the exact, proper moment to announce his decision for the 2008 NFL season where the timing will not be used to call him a Prima Dona or an attention whore.

At least he's consistent: every time he's been in this situation he's seen fit to look after his own interests above all else. What I love was that he announced two weeks ago that he would announce his decision this week . . . as if he didn't know then what he'd say now.

what kills me is that people have this notion of him being some prima donna/attention whore. they create these scenarios in their head whereby Brett is flying planes over every major city announcing his plans for a press conference.when was the last time you saw him mooning on national TV?when was the last time he went on some late night talk show? appeared on SportsCenter just to talk? made a show of anything at all?he has a press conference every tuesday or wednesday during the season. he answers the questions that are asked. he has media hounding him EVERY SINGLE DAY. trust me.. i live here. he has all 3 news outlets, plus radio, chasing him down EVERY DAY all year round. how much do you hear FROM HIM all year? not a lot. you hear media speculation and rumor and a lot of nothing from Favre. people push this boulder downhill and it builds its own momentum. it's talked about so much that people THINK Favre is pushing it... but he's not. has ANYONE seen his face on TV since the last game of the season? can you say that for Manning? Brady? McNabb? these guys are on TV and in the media every week. he didn't call a press conference to announce that he'd make his decision in 2 weeks. some reporter from some small newspaper asked him and he said he'd make his decision during SB week (prime time to release news that slips through the cracks). he made his decision through a small Miss. newspaper and it's done. nobody is talking about it.where is the attention whoring?like one of the local guy said the other day. it's en vogue to bash Favre these days. it's all backlash from the knob slobbing everyone did through the 90s. now it's "cool" to attack the guy. that's fine. people here do it. they're not very bright but they do it.when he finally walks away and people look back at his career they will be astonished all over again.he's the best Packer player ever. that's a MAJOR accomplishment. i dunno what more the guy needs to do?

VERY Unfortunately, the haters are incapable of actually hearing the truth and obviously incapable of logic.Welcome Back Brett!

 

[Banger]

Good for Brett

Bad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

I don't think so, he played poorly last year.

Better than:Carr

Mia's QB

T. Green

Clev's QB

Oak's QB

Wash's QB

B. Johnson

Grossman

Kitna

TB's QB

Alex Smith

Delhomme

Equal to:

Losman

McNair

Eli

Leinart

Cutler

Leftwich

Seems kind of sad when the play of one of the greatest QB's of all time has to be defended with "He is not one of the worst QB's in football, he's average" or "Hey, he's just as good as J.P. Losman!".

Okay well what about this:He's better than any QB that the Packers could possibly acquire for the 2007 season.

Agreed. Yes Favre is not the player he was and I would never debate that. He's FAR FAR superior to anyone on the Pack roster and Driver owners should be rejoicing. If he had a a TE who could catch and a 2nd WR (let alone a 3rd/4th that were NFL worthy) he would have had at least 5 more td's last year and probably 3-4 fewer picks.

I agree with all of this. This is directed at how he handled the announcement, and of course is additionally in reaction to the non-stop accolades that the media dumps on him at every, every opportunity.

That's not his fault though. He goes out and plays and the media does what it does. Yeah Madden/others fawn over him more than they should at this point but Brett is an old time player and one of the best to ever play the game. If anyone deserves it though it's him.

 

[pinda]

TD record and career INT record, not bad......but all in all I'm glad the guy is back.

 

[redman]

when he finally walks away and people look back at his career they will be astonished all over again.

I know I'll be astonished when he finally walks away.

 

[gman8343]

Favre is good for football. I'm psyched to see him back for another year.

 

[Warhogs]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Nope, it will be whenever he gets the TD passing record. I think he only needs around 10 more so I suspect next year will be his final year.Favre is really proving to be a complete prima donna and always needs the spotlight on him which is why I believe he's only in it for the records (pass TD's, extending consecutive game streak, etc.)...nothing like making this announcement 2 days before the Super Bowl so the focus turns to him rather than the most important game of the year. This announcement couldn't have waited another week or two.....of course not.

So you are clearly a Favre hater....Good for you. He said right after the season he was going to try to determine what he was going to do in a few weeks after the season and make an announcment so he did not have the organization waiting so long. I also agree that announcing this now probably gives him less exposure since all the media is focusing on the superbowl. You of course would spin any time that Favre made his announcement into an anti Favre thing since you hate him. I will just enjoy watching him for another season.

 

[mr. furley]

I think it's becoming clear that the only way Favre will retire is if he is physically unable to play.

Nope, it will be whenever he gets the TD passing record. I think he only needs around 10 more so I suspect next year will be his final year.Favre is really proving to be a complete prima donna and always needs the spotlight on him which is why I believe he's only in it for the records (pass TD's, extending consecutive game streak, etc.)...nothing like making this announcement 2 days before the Super Bowl so the focus turns to him rather than the most important game of the year. This announcement couldn't have waited another week or two.....of course not.

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.Maybe a committee of fans, players and media can be created as to inform Farve the exact, proper moment to announce his decision for the 2008 NFL season where the timing will not be used to call him a Prima Dona or an attention whore.

At least he's consistent: every time he's been in this situation he's seen fit to look after his own interests above all else. What I love was that he announced two weeks ago that he would announce his decision this week . . . as if he didn't know then what he'd say now.

what kills me is that people have this notion of him being some prima donna/attention whore. they create these scenarios in their head whereby Brett is flying planes over every major city announcing his plans for a press conference.when was the last time you saw him mooning on national TV?when was the last time he went on some late night talk show? appeared on SportsCenter just to talk? made a show of anything at all?he has a press conference every tuesday or wednesday during the season. he answers the questions that are asked. he has media hounding him EVERY SINGLE DAY. trust me.. i live here. he has all 3 news outlets, plus radio, chasing him down EVERY DAY all year round. how much do you hear FROM HIM all year? not a lot. you hear media speculation and rumor and a lot of nothing from Favre. people push this boulder downhill and it builds its own momentum. it's talked about so much that people THINK Favre is pushing it... but he's not. has ANYONE seen his face on TV since the last game of the season? can you say that for Manning? Brady? McNabb? these guys are on TV and in the media every week. he didn't call a press conference to announce that he'd make his decision in 2 weeks. some reporter from some small newspaper asked him and he said he'd make his decision during SB week (prime time to release news that slips through the cracks). he made his decision through a small Miss. newspaper and it's done. nobody is talking about it.where is the attention whoring?like one of the local guy said the other day. it's en vogue to bash Favre these days. it's all backlash from the knob slobbing everyone did through the 90s. now it's "cool" to attack the guy. that's fine. people here do it. they're not very bright but they do it.when he finally walks away and people look back at his career they will be astonished all over again.he's the best Packer player ever. that's a MAJOR accomplishment. i dunno what more the guy needs to do?

VERY Unfortunately, the haters are incapable of actually hearing the truth and obviously incapable of logic.Welcome Back Brett!

i get just as sick of the media slobbering all over the guy as anyone else.. and it definitely taints people opinion of a guy. Peyton Manning is a great example. he's talked about like the greatest participant in any sport that ever lived. it's annoying. i get it.separate that from his accomplishment though. it's not Favre's fault that the media bird-dogs him. face it, the guy is a compelling story... he's (to quote a cliche) "a throwback" in an era of "me first" athletes. he overcame drug addiction to win a Super Bowl.. he plays the game the way that people say they wish other athletes played the game.. he didn't sell out to the media.. he has taken NUMEROUS pay cuts to improve the team (imagine that). he's by all account a solid all-around human being. he goes about his business and he goes home. he keeps to himself and donates a LOT of money in the community.if people don't like that.. well... then they're paying lip service to wanting that from other players. they have it in Favre and hate it. makes no sense.

 

[H.K.]

Here's how it all happened today:

Brett Favre =

John Madden =

Green Bay =

Dan Marino =

 

[sts911911]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

 

[Norseman]

Good for BrettBad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

Don't all team have 3 QB's? So there are 96 QB's in the league, and Bret Favre is better than 48 of them and worse than 48 of them?Doesn't sound too good.

 

[Banger]

Good for BrettBad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

Don't all team have 3 QB's? So there are 96 QB's in the league, and Bret Favre is better than 48 of them and worse than 48 of them?Doesn't sound too good.

I put up my list of the STARTERS that he's equal to or better than. If you include the backups he's better than 80%.

 

[Carl Spackler]

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.

I think its pretty much an unwritten rule that Super Bowl week is for the Super Bowl teams. Even Jerry Jones won't hire a HC until after the game.

That's because his choice for HC is coaching in the game.

 

[Carl Spackler]

Good for Brett

Bad for football fans

Favre is still as good as or better than 1/2 the QB's in the league.

I don't think so, he played poorly last year.

According to the stats on nfl.com, Brett ranked 25th in passer rating last year.HERE

I don't think more than 3 guys had more picks than him either. That's not a good season. That's a poor season. Many people like to hang onto what he used to be though, and don't want to see him retire. I understand that.

You crack me up. Please don't ever leave these boards.

 

[Tough As Nails]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

 

[Kleck.]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

 

[Tough As Nails]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

Not saying it's his fault. Just saying that the results haven't been good. Tough to dispute that. List all the reasons you want...it doesn't change the fact that the bottom line has been pretty bad.

 

[joatmon]

Really?I brought this up the other day at the Gas station to some Die Hard Packer Fans..I asked them if they heard the Rumors about Moss & The Pack.Their response almost in unison was:"Even the Packers don't drink that much"

I hear what you're saying and as a Packer fan I have to say I would be whooping it up if the Packers brought in Moss. I don't think he's washed up, and I know he has respect for Favre. I think Moss can make Favre a better QB in the same way Walker did. And Favre can control Moss because of the respect.Some Packer fans see how Moss ripped apart the Packer D when he was with Minny as well as his antics and hate him for life. I'm not one of those people. He would make our team better from a talent standpoint. He'd give Jennings another year to blossom which is a good thing.That being said, I would never in a million years want Moss if Rogers was at the helm.

 

[Gr00vus]

Glad to see him back, he's definitely better than anything else the Pack could get this year at that position.

Announcing early rather than late is better for the team as well - at least they know who their QB is this year and go about planning the roster with that knowledge in hand.

Ought to be good news for Jennings owners right? Better Favre than some other clown I'd figure.

 

[Carl Spackler]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

This cracks me up, why did you pick 9yrs? Go back 1 more, or even 2, now tell me his stats.BTW, he has one more ring than your beloved Vikes in the past 11 years, and the whole history of your franchise.A little riddle here for you: What do you call a Minnesota Viking with a Super Bowl ring? A thief!!

 

[Bri]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

That vigor, that fire or whatever it is, hasn't always been there lately IMO.There's been times that I've thought he's going thru the motions or not goofing off but maybe not serious enough. How many meaningful close games has he been in? It's been a while since his team was a top team IMO. I know Sherman had a good coaching record but I didn't think those teams were going anywhere.The exact same daring pass that went 100 mph thru the air into Antonio Freeman's gut maybe is easier to intercept now that it's lost some zing. There's a real fine line between daring and dopey. Years ago there sure were a bunch of young QBs foolishly thinking they could make the same throws. He might be trying less, he might not. It's real hard to tell. Speaking of him would be one of the few times that "he gives 110%" wouldn't bother me. Maybe he gives 10 less and the lack of a quality team around him takes that little bit out of him or losing? When you see Brett trying his hardest it's so obvious. He's so fired up, so much heart, so much jabberring and cheering and....maybe he's been playing with a smidge less the last few years. It's very hard to tell.In a playoff game or with 2 minutes left+chance to win, I'd take Favre over most NFL QBs. Fired up Brett Favre might be more scary for a D than Brady.I'm not sure. If in 2008 playoffs he were to tear apart the Bears D with 2 minutes left, that would probably prove the above to be true.

 

[Tough As Nails]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

This cracks me up, why did you pick 9yrs? Go back 1 more, or even 2, now tell me his stats.BTW, he has one more ring than your beloved Vikes in the past 11 years, and the whole history of your franchise.A little riddle here for you: What do you call a Minnesota Viking with a Super Bowl ring? A thief!!

This just in...I'm not a Vikings fan. It doesn't matter what team I'm a fan of. It doesn't change my point. Honest question...are you happy with the way the Packers have performed since their Super Bowl loss? If you answer no (and I don't see how the answer would be different)...do you hate the organization for wasting the second half of the career of the best QB your team will ever have?

 

[Bri]

No one fires up team loyalty vs divisional rival "hatred" like Favre does

 

[Carl Spackler]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

This cracks me up, why did you pick 9yrs? Go back 1 more, or even 2, now tell me his stats.BTW, he has one more ring than your beloved Vikes in the past 11 years, and the whole history of your franchise.A little riddle here for you: What do you call a Minnesota Viking with a Super Bowl ring? A thief!!

This just in...I'm not a Vikings fan. It doesn't matter what team I'm a fan of. It doesn't change my point. Honest question...are you happy with the way the Packers have performed since their Super Bowl loss? If you answer no (and I don't see how the answer would be different)...do you hate the organization for wasting the second half of the career of the best QB your team will ever have?

My apologies, I thought you were a Viking fan, but my memory is coming back and I believe you are a Bears fan, correct? If so good luck Sunday. (but not too much luck) Ok, this is a much different question. Hell no I'm not happy with how they've played since The SB loss. No effing way. And you damned right I'm pissed at the organization for how they didn't get Favre any more help over these last 9 years. It's a travashamockery that they wasted the prime of Favres career. They should have been to 3 maybe 4 SB's. So in that respect you bet your ### I'm pissed off.It's as big of a travesty as the 85 Bears only going to one SB.But the way you worded your last question, you put it all on Favre and that's just plain wrong.

 

[x260bm]

Good to see him come back for another year.

 

[parasaurolophus]

So he gets criticized last year for waiting too long to announce/decide, and now he gets criticized for not waiting long enough.

I think its pretty much an unwritten rule that Super Bowl week is for the Super Bowl teams. Even Jerry Jones won't hire a HC until after the game.

I am not sure if this is fishing and I didnt read anything after this post, but this is the most ridiculous and uninformed comment I have read on here in a while.Jerry Jones wont hire a coach because he wants to interview Rivera. If it is just for the super bowl teams why on earth did two American Idol rejects get to ask questions on media day?Why is there so much hoopla about so many silly stories going on?A big part of the morning show was this stupid thing talking about favre seeing his shadow this morning and deciding if it was going to be 6 more weeks. Than they had a fake tractor start up and called it day one of the tractor watch. I am happy he made his decsion. He doesnt take away from the Super Bowl.As if the Super Bowl media frenzy before is so damn sacred anyway.Prima donna? Favre is good for the sport, whether you like it or not.

 

[switz]

Where is the Jerry Rice thread, something about haging around WAY too long... sheesh, this guy just needs to hang up his cleats.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

Not saying it's his fault.

Then why would you say Pack fans have to be disappointed in the second half of HIS career?

 

[jurrassic]

...and as a Bears fan, I could not be happier!

Doesn't Favre have a ridiculously comical record vs. the Bears. He is like 22-7 vs. the Bears. Why would you be happy? This is why Bears fan get so much S*** from everyone. Happy?

 

[Tough As Nails]

Ok, this is a much different question. Hell no I'm not happy with how they've played since The SB loss. No effing way. And you damned right I'm pissed at the organization for how they didn't get Favre any more help over these last 9 years. It's a travashamockery that they wasted the prime of Favres career. They should have been to 3 maybe 4 SB's. So in that respect you bet your ### I'm pissed off.But the way you worded your last question, you put it all on Favre and that's just plain wrong.

Yeah...didn't mean to imply it was Favre's "fault". He does, of course, shoulders some of the blame since he's the leader, the QB and the guy with the most on field impact...but he has certainly done more good than harm. Nobody will argue that. Your above point is exactly how I would feel if I were a Packers fan...and I'm floored that more fans don't feel that way and that more people don't speak out about it. This "one more run with Brett" idea is just a ridiculous way to build a franchise. It hasn't worked for years...and it won't work in the future. This Randy Moss trade talk is more of that same thinking that has failed. I think Thompson is smart enough to avoid that trap. They finally seem to be doing it right by bringing in young guys, building cohesion and developing stability. Unfortunately for Packer fans...it's probably too late.

 

[Tough As Nails]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

Not saying it's his fault.

Then why would you say Pack fans have to be disappointed in the second half of HIS career?

How do you want me to label the time since after the Super Bowl loss to the Broncos? Face it...most organizations are defined by their superstar. They get too much of the glory and too much of the blame. Favre is the face of the Packers. The last nine years are going to be labeled "the 2nd half of Favre's career". If you don't think 10 years from now that you'll be talking about the "Favre era"...you're nuts.

 

[Banger]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

<_< Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

Not saying it's his fault.

Then why would you say Pack fans have to be disappointed in the second half of HIS career?

How do you want me to label the time since after the Super Bowl loss to the Broncos? Face it...most organizations are defined by their superstar. They get too much of the glory and too much of the blame. Favre is the face of the Packers. The last nine years are going to be labeled "the 2nd half of Favre's career". If you don't think 10 years from now that you'll be talking about the "Favre era"...you're nuts.

I don't think anyone is going to label Favre's career into "halves". His career will be looked at like any other great player, in it's totality and he will be at or near the top in nearly every category.

 

[videoguy505]

The worst part about him coming back to chase Marino's TD record is that it won't last--he'll hold it for a few years until someone like Manning shatters it. The only record that will remain will be when he sets the INT record, he'll be in the books for that one for much longer.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

The worst part about him coming back to chase Marino's TD record is that it won't last--he'll hold it for a few years until someone like Manning shatters it. The only record that will remain will be when he sets the INT record, he'll be in the books for that one for much longer.

 

[Aaronstory]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yeah, because it is Bret Favre and Brett Favre alone that accounts for the Packers playoff record. And you are calling yourself an 'objective football fan'? Please don't drink and post.

 

[Aaronstory]

The worst part about him coming back to chase Marino's TD record is that it won't last--he'll hold it for a few years until someone like Manning shatters it. The only record that will remain will be when he sets the INT record, he'll be in the books for that one for much longer.

You are 100% correct. That consecutive starts streak will be broken in a season or two.

 

[Tough As Nails]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yeah, because it is Bret Favre and Brett Favre alone that accounts for the Packers playoff record. And you are calling yourself an 'objective football fan'? Please don't drink and post.

Please read post #90. You are trying to turn this into a 'YOU'RE A FAVRE BASHER!!!' thing instead of looking at it from a results point of view. Are you happy with how the last 10 years have gone?

 

[mr. furley]

9 years...2 playoff wins. Maybe he'll increase that total by 50% next year. Maybe.

Still the best QB in the NFC North...

So you're happy with 1 playoff win every 5 years? Really? I can't imagine that's the case. So he can still make plays and is fun to watch...great. There is no way an objective football fan can be happy with the results in the second half of Favre's career. Great, great, all-time great first half...very disappointing second half.

Yep, all Favre's fault that Sherman blew the pooch as a GM.

Not saying it's his fault. Just saying that the results haven't been good. Tough to dispute that. List all the reasons you want...it doesn't change the fact that the bottom line has been pretty bad.

So if it's not his fault than how is it his fault?Guys can still be great players and not win Super Bowls. or are you contending that guys like Dan Marino are disappointments?

 

[phthalatemagic]

You crack me up. Please don't ever leave these boards.

Well, I admit I didn't look that int stat up prior to saying it. Was I wrong?I don't know, maybe that's a good season for some people? I'm not going to pretend I'm the god of football, so fill me in - is having alot of interceptions in this age of football indicative of a good season or a poor one?I fear I'm feeding the trolls....

 

[phthalatemagic]

The worst part about him coming back to chase Marino's TD record is that it won't last--he'll hold it for a few years until someone like Manning shatters it. The only record that will remain will be when he sets the INT record, he'll be in the books for that one for much longer.

You are 100% correct. That consecutive starts streak will be broken in a season or two.

Just consecutive starts for a QB right? Seems like a pretty niche statistic to me.