ParkwayWoof
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Pitta at 6.8 is a stealllllll....whenever I've picked 9-11 he doesn't even make it back to me in the 5th
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FBG 2014 "How did I do" Thread (3 Viewers)
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TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Got pick #11 which is tough this year, but I like how this turned out. I think the team is solid all around, with depth and some good upside.
QB: Griffin, A.Smith, McCown
RB: Lacy, Gerhart, CJ2K, Ridley, Tre Mason
WR: B.Marshall, D.Jackson, E.Sanders, B.Cooks, Jennings, Britt
TE: Witten, Allen, Ebron
K: Hauschka
D: Chiefs, Texans
QB: Griffin, A.Smith, McCown
RB: Lacy, Gerhart, CJ2K, Ridley, Tre Mason
WR: B.Marshall, D.Jackson, E.Sanders, B.Cooks, Jennings, Britt
TE: Witten, Allen, Ebron
K: Hauschka
D: Chiefs, Texans
I hope those who drafted Prater drafted a backup...
Matt Prater - K - Broncos
NFL suspended Broncos K Matt Prater four games for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
According to the Denver Post, the violation was "alcohol-related." Prater has been in the league's alcohol program since August 2011, when he was charged with DUI. It's a major fantasy blow, as Prater has one of the league's biggest legs, and is kicking for its best offense. He was Rotoworld's No. 2 kicker. Prater's backup is undrafted rookie Mitch Ewald, but the Broncos will likely search for a veteran fill-in. Prater's track record is such that his roster spot shouldn't be in danger. He is eligible to return in Week 6, as the Broncos are on bye in Week 4. Prater is no longer draftable.
Related: Mitch Ewald
Source: Denver Post Aug 24 - 2:15 AM
Matt Prater - K - Broncos
NFL suspended Broncos K Matt Prater four games for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.
According to the Denver Post, the violation was "alcohol-related." Prater has been in the league's alcohol program since August 2011, when he was charged with DUI. It's a major fantasy blow, as Prater has one of the league's biggest legs, and is kicking for its best offense. He was Rotoworld's No. 2 kicker. Prater's backup is undrafted rookie Mitch Ewald, but the Broncos will likely search for a veteran fill-in. Prater's track record is such that his roster spot shouldn't be in danger. He is eligible to return in Week 6, as the Broncos are on bye in Week 4. Prater is no longer draftable.
Related: Mitch Ewald
Source: Denver Post Aug 24 - 2:15 AM
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
From the 12 spot:
Foles(7)
Spiller(3)/Stacy(4)/Richardson(8)/Stewart(13)/Carey(14)/Hillman(15)/Taliaferro(17)/McKinnon(20)
Julio(1)/Marshall(2)/Bowe(9)/Boykin(11)/Jennings(12)/Dobson(16)
Reed(5)/Olsen(6)/L. Green(10)
New England(18)
Gould(19)
I obviously don't like my starting RBs, but think the top tier WRs are better option from late draft position then the available RBs at the 1/2 turn. If Stacy and Spiller out-perform think this team is in good shape, otherwise I will struggle.
I noticed that the last of my top 31 WRs (end of a tier for me) is going early in the past 2 drafts, I used to be able to grab one of these guys in round 8 with regularity - but now all are gone by mid-7th.
Didn't think I was going to own Trent or Ladarius this year in this format, but figure as the 85th and 109th players off the board they are worth the risk (on Trent I am still not sure).
Foles(7)
Spiller(3)/Stacy(4)/Richardson(8)/Stewart(13)/Carey(14)/Hillman(15)/Taliaferro(17)/McKinnon(20)
Julio(1)/Marshall(2)/Bowe(9)/Boykin(11)/Jennings(12)/Dobson(16)
Reed(5)/Olsen(6)/L. Green(10)
New England(18)
Gould(19)
I obviously don't like my starting RBs, but think the top tier WRs are better option from late draft position then the available RBs at the 1/2 turn. If Stacy and Spiller out-perform think this team is in good shape, otherwise I will struggle.
I noticed that the last of my top 31 WRs (end of a tier for me) is going early in the past 2 drafts, I used to be able to grab one of these guys in round 8 with regularity - but now all are gone by mid-7th.
Didn't think I was going to own Trent or Ladarius this year in this format, but figure as the 85th and 109th players off the board they are worth the risk (on Trent I am still not sure).
Interesting team. Did you go Demaryius over Calvin Johnson or was CJ picked in the top 3?
Wow, I really like this team. Looks like you hit on every pick here. Lacy falling to 11 didn't hurt either. Not sure why u took a 3rd qb, probably better served adding a RB flier over Mccown. But overall, this is definitely 1 of the stronger teams posted here..
And Sanders lasted till 7.11, Cooks at 8.2, Is that right ? If so, that's crazy value
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Interesting...
ESPN Boston does not have Stevan Ridley making the 53-man roster in their latest projection.
We'd be stunned if Ridley gets cut, as he's clearly the team's best inside running option provided he doesn't fumble. But the projection comes from ace beat man Mike Reiss, who is not prone to hyperbole. Ridley played just 11 snaps in Friday night's third preseason game, and did lose a fumble in the second preseason game. Reiss has the Patriots keeping four running backs on the active roster (Shane Vereen, James White, Brandon Bolden, Jonas Gray) and one on the practice squad (Roy Finch).
ESPN Boston does not have Stevan Ridley making the 53-man roster in their latest projection.
We'd be stunned if Ridley gets cut, as he's clearly the team's best inside running option provided he doesn't fumble. But the projection comes from ace beat man Mike Reiss, who is not prone to hyperbole. Ridley played just 11 snaps in Friday night's third preseason game, and did lose a fumble in the second preseason game. Reiss has the Patriots keeping four running backs on the active roster (Shane Vereen, James White, Brandon Bolden, Jonas Gray) and one on the practice squad (Roy Finch).
2nd pick. Think my crew killed it.
QB: Kaepernik (10th), Alex Smith (17th)
RB: Charles (1st), Marshawn (3rd), Spiller (5th), SJax (9th), Christine Michael (12th), James White (16th), Roy Helu (18th)
WR: Nelson (2nd), Cruz (4th), Sanders(7th), T Williams (8th), J Matthews (11th), Gordon (13th), Marquis Lee (15th)
TE: Reed (6th), Allen (14th)
K: Gould
Def: Jets
QB: Kaepernik (10th), Alex Smith (17th)
RB: Charles (1st), Marshawn (3rd), Spiller (5th), SJax (9th), Christine Michael (12th), James White (16th), Roy Helu (18th)
WR: Nelson (2nd), Cruz (4th), Sanders(7th), T Williams (8th), J Matthews (11th), Gordon (13th), Marquis Lee (15th)
TE: Reed (6th), Allen (14th)
K: Gould
Def: Jets
I wouldn't say 'killed' it. Its solid for sure, nothing outrageous though in my eyes. The 1 eye popping thing was Spiller lasting till 5.2. Don't think ive seen him last to the 5th in a single draft on here.Taubej said:
Lynch at 3.2 is also very good value.
Solid draft, assuming Kapernick doesn't fall on his face, you should be a playoff squad..
Jersey Jammer
Footballguy
Was Murray or Ball available at the 12th pick? Stacy is about the only reliable RB so you pay a big price for going WR/WR. I saw decent WRs in rounds 8 - 10 the other night that would suffice - Wayne, T Williams, Bowe, Benjamin, etc.... I'd rather have one of those along with a first round RB.
Ball was available, Murray was not. I can understand the desire for 1 RB at the turn, specifically for giving yourself options later. But my preference is for the elite WRs [top 6] I guess. Looking at worst starter VBD based on various projections, I have Marshall + Richardson (or Woodhead for example) as a higher scoring combo than Ball + any of those WRs. Similar story for Ball + 3rd/4th rd WR vs .Stacy/Spiller + Marshall.
Which is part of the story, but also in terms of hitting on late round picks if I hit on a late round RB it is generally pretty obvious when to play them and not as much so with WRs. Unless those WRs blow up Alshon/Gordon style, it is always going to be tough to start them week to week due to natural position volatility outside the studs.
And with historical hit rates, I have top 5 WR at 60% chance of top 10 whereas RB in 6-10 range with 31% of Top 10, the WRs are safer as well.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Drafted from the 2nd spot - I really like this one....time will tell as always:
QB: Cutler (10); Romo (11); Locker (19)
RB: McCoy (1); Foster (2); Rice (5); MJD (7); Kadeem Carey (20)
WR: Jeffrey (3); Harvin (4); Decker (6); Amendola (12); Britt (13)
TE: Clay (8); Heath Miller (9); Richard Rodgers (16)
DEF: NE (14); Denver (15); Chi (17)
PK: Crosby (18)
QB: Cutler (10); Romo (11); Locker (19)
RB: McCoy (1); Foster (2); Rice (5); MJD (7); Kadeem Carey (20)
WR: Jeffrey (3); Harvin (4); Decker (6); Amendola (12); Britt (13)
TE: Clay (8); Heath Miller (9); Richard Rodgers (16)
DEF: NE (14); Denver (15); Chi (17)
PK: Crosby (18)
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
You may be better off sticking with your guppies league. Positive for this team.... You got the 2nd pick and McCoy is a no brainer. I don't like much else ... And three defenses seems like a bit of a waste. I can see you finishing around 5th place in your league.I like the Qb rotation, Miller will end up being your starting TE IMO ... I feel like you are two players short of competing. Watch that waiver wire.
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QB- Luck
RB- A Ellingtion, Rice
WR- V Jackson, D Jackson
Flex- Julius Thomas, J Reed
TE- Jimmy Graham
Jets, Walsh
Bench
RB- L Miller, J Hill, S Greene, Blount, Cunningham
WR- Boykin, Wheaton, M Floyd, J Jones, R Woods
Starters should be nice once Rays in the lineup but my depth is god awful.
RB- A Ellingtion, Rice
WR- V Jackson, D Jackson
Flex- Julius Thomas, J Reed
TE- Jimmy Graham
Jets, Walsh
Bench
RB- L Miller, J Hill, S Greene, Blount, Cunningham
WR- Boykin, Wheaton, M Floyd, J Jones, R Woods
Starters should be nice once Rays in the lineup but my depth is god awful.
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I was going to start arguing the opening point until I realized who OP was. At the very least, the guppy league is of more interest
.Overall, I think I like the starting lineup. Cutler/Romo should be a really solid combo. RBs are nice and deep assuming Foster stays healthy. WRs are OK, think Alshon is good value in early 3rd and Harvin and Decker are OK value in 4th and 6th. Amendola and Britt seem a bit early for my taste, so think you may have some WR depth issues come bye weeks. Clay and Miller is a solid TE combo for 8th/9th round picks.
I don't understand the 3 Def strategy + Locker pick at all, I think at least 1 and probably both backup D picks could have been used on RB/WR and same with Locker's spot. It may work out for you, and quite frankly I hope it does as I think it is bad process so want others to continue to do it.
With 3 extra picks on upside RB/WR think I would like this team much more.
One of the better rosters I have seen with 3 early TEs. I would probably have to look at specific projections to get a better handle, but there doesn't appear to be any real reaches in first 9 picks and a couple of good values. I know you don't like your depth, but I think you appropriately allocated the position distribution. That gives yourself a chance to hit on some players where you need them.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
So you think you can get Amendola lower than 12th??? That is the lowest I have ever seen him being taken in any draft and I have done 7 before this. Also, Britt's ADP has been much higher since it is clear he is the #1 WR....sure Bradford is out but Hill is actually pretty competent and Britt should be good depth. You do not like 3 Defenses? LOL ok....I will be getting top 3 D production every week from them based on match ups -I was going to start arguing the opening point until I realized who OP was. At the very least, the guppy league is of more interest
Overall, I think I like the starting lineup. Cutler/Romo should be a really solid combo. RBs are nice and deep assuming Foster stays healthy. WRs are OK, think Alshon is good value in early 3rd and Harvin and Decker are OK value in 4th and 6th. Amendola and Britt seem a bit early for my taste, so think you may have some WR depth issues come bye weeks. Clay and Miller is a solid TE combo for 8th/9th round picks.
I don't understand the 3 Def strategy + Locker pick at all, I think at least 1 and probably both backup D picks could have been used on RB/WR and same with Locker's spot. It may work out for you, and quite frankly I hope it does as I think it is bad process so want others to continue to do it.
With 3 extra picks on upside RB/WR think I would like this team much more.
Week 1 - Bears at home vs Bills
Week 2 - Broncos at home vs Chiefs
Week 3 - Pats at home vs Raiders
Week 4 - Pats at Chiefs
Week 5 - Bears at Panthers
Week 6 - Pats at Bills or Broncos at Jets
Week 7 - Jets at Pats or Fins at Bears
Week 8 - Chargers at Broncos on short week
Week 9 - Only week I need to find some other WW D which I am sure I can, since Pats play Broncos and Bears are on bye
Week 10 - Broncos at Raiders
Week 11 - Broncos at Rams or Bears at home vs Vikings (could be rookie Bridgewater time by then in Minny)
Week 12 - Bucs at Bears or Fins at Broncos
Week 13 - Broncos at Chiefs
Week 14 - Bills at Broncos
Week 15 - Fins at pats
Week 16 - Pats at Jets or Lions at Bears (At Solider Field, Stafford is a turn over machine in the cold - go look at what he did a few years back when he threw 5 picks in one game)
As for Locker - Week 2, I plan to start him against the Cowboys. Any QB against the Boys is a guaranteed top 10 worst case and most likely top 5 QB that week. Locker gets the NFC East and AFC South and he has looked solid all preseason so I plan to spot start him
I know some of you sheep do not like to think for yourselves, but that is a good thing for some of us. Good luck with your year!
As for WR depth, I can start 4 RBs after the 2nd week and I can start 2 TEs anytime I want to. I do not need inconsistent WRs taking up roster spots, that I will never start anyways. Britt is a legit WR1 on his team that I can start any time I really need to - and I doubt I will ever have to. And Amendola will have his weeks - sure he will be inconsistent and has health issues but he is my WR4 that I never need to start. I have 4 RBs and 2 TEs I can start any week if needed.
All 4 of my RBs are proven top 3 RBs in the league in the last 3 years and both MJD and Rice have looked good in preseason - showing they still have it. Sure Foster was injured last year, but if he gets hurt, I have depth that is guaranteed to score points behind him.
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First off I like your team, I was going to be much friendlier then the others...So you think you can get Amendola lower than 12th??? That is the lowest I have ever seen him being taken in any draft and I have done 7 before this. Also, Britt's ADP has been much higher since it is clear he is the #1 WR....sure Bradford is out but Hill is actually pretty competent and Britt should be good depth. You do not like 3 Defenses? LOL ok....I will be getting top 3 D production every week from them based on match ups -I was going to start arguing the opening point until I realized who OP was. At the very least, the guppy league is of more interest
Overall, I think I like the starting lineup. Cutler/Romo should be a really solid combo. RBs are nice and deep assuming Foster stays healthy. WRs are OK, think Alshon is good value in early 3rd and Harvin and Decker are OK value in 4th and 6th. Amendola and Britt seem a bit early for my taste, so think you may have some WR depth issues come bye weeks. Clay and Miller is a solid TE combo for 8th/9th round picks.
I don't understand the 3 Def strategy + Locker pick at all, I think at least 1 and probably both backup D picks could have been used on RB/WR and same with Locker's spot. It may work out for you, and quite frankly I hope it does as I think it is bad process so want others to continue to do it.
With 3 extra picks on upside RB/WR think I would like this team much more.
Week 1 - Bears at home vs Bills
Week 2 - Broncos at home vs Chiefs
Week 3 - Pats at home vs Raiders
Week 4 - Pats at Chiefs
Week 5 - Bears at Panthers
Week 6 - Pats at Bills or Broncos at Jets
Week 7 - Jets at Pats or Fins at Bears
Week 8 - Chargers at Broncos on short week
Week 9 - Only week I need to find some other WW D which I am sure I can, since Pats play Broncos and Bears are on bye
Week 10 - Broncos at Raiders
Week 11 - Broncos at Rams or Bears at home vs Vikings (could be rookie Bridgewater time by then in Minny)
Week 12 - Bucs at Bears or Fins at Broncos
Week 13 - Broncos at Chiefs
Week 14 - Bills at Broncos
Week 15 - Fins at pats
Week 16 - Pats at Jets or Lions at Bears (At Solider Field, Stafford is a turn over machine in the cold - go look at what he did a few years back when he threw 5 picks in one game)
As for Locker - Week 2, I plan to start him against the Cowboys. Any QB against the Boys is a guaranteed top 10 worst case and most likely top 5 QB that week. Locker gets the NFC East and AFC South and he has looked solid all preseason so I plan to spot start him
I know some of you sheep do not like to think for yourselves, but that is a good thing for some of us. Good luck with your year!
As for WR depth, I can start 4 RBs after the 2nd week and I can start 2 TEs anytime I want to. I do not need inconsistent WRs taking up roster spots, that I will never start anyways. Britt is a legit WR1 on his team that I can start any time I really need to - and I doubt I will ever have to. And Amendola will have his weeks - sure he will be inconsistent and has health issues but he is my WR4 that I never need to start. I have 4 RBs and 2 TEs I can start any week if needed.
All 4 of my RBs are proven top 3 RBs in the league in the last 3 years and both MJD and Rice have looked good in preseason - showing they still have it. Sure Foster was injured last year, but if he gets hurt, I have depth that is guaranteed to score points behind him.
Now I don't agree with much of your logic though... There is absolutely NO reason to ever have 3 defenses, which ever one you sit becuase you think the bears have a great matchup will go off and the bears will do ####.. Its just murphys law...
This isn't 3 years ago with those RBs, actually I think you are weak at the position.. Ray will help when he gets back but Foster is brittle and MJD is in a full time share.. I like the WRs and TEs will be fine...
Good Luck
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Picked from the 10 hole last night.
RG3 (12) Carson Palmer (14)
Demarco Murray (2) Fred Jackson (6) Devonte Freeman (9) Carlos Hyde (10) James White (13) CJ Anderson (15)
Demarius Thomas (1) Keenan Allen (3) Michael Floyd (4) Torrey Smith (5) Marquez Colston (7) Kembril Tompkins (16) Paul Richarson (18)
Matellus Bennett (8) Tim Wright(11) Levine Toilolo (17)
Chi Bears (19)
Novak (20)
RG3 (12) Carson Palmer (14)
Demarco Murray (2) Fred Jackson (6) Devonte Freeman (9) Carlos Hyde (10) James White (13) CJ Anderson (15)
Demarius Thomas (1) Keenan Allen (3) Michael Floyd (4) Torrey Smith (5) Marquez Colston (7) Kembril Tompkins (16) Paul Richarson (18)
Matellus Bennett (8) Tim Wright(11) Levine Toilolo (17)
Chi Bears (19)
Novak (20)
I like this team a lot. Foster/Jeffrey/Rice are all values where u took them. Week 3 forward, flexing Rice/Decker is a solid duo. Clay (8) seems high but nothing crazy, im assuming TE's were flying off the board. I will agree with the others, taking a 3rd QB and 3rd Defense is completely worthless. Give me WR/RB flyers over those 2 picks, easily.
Its solid Coots, but nothing that strikes me as being anything that great. the RB's are deep. IF S-Jax can stay healthy, then this rb group is elite. I do think your WR core is underwhelming. Gronk should minimize that some. You'll also have no issues finding flexes on a weekly basis here, pretty deep. Don't love Brady but that's a matter of preference really... AJ or Bush falling to end of 4th? Great value on whoever fell there...Overall, its a playoff squad I think.Drafted this team yesterday.... Man I have too many!!!!!!!!
QB T. Brady, R. Griffin
RB AP, Bush, P. Thomas, S. Jackson, K. Robinson, J. Grimes, D. Archer, S. Draughn
WR A. Johnson, D. Jackson, B. Cooks, J. Mathews, B. Quick, M. Austin
TE Gronk, Miller
Novak, Rams
Not too high on this one. Your WR core is ridiculous, obviously, but you're not strong anywhere else. You will need to hit on 1 or 2 of those RB's and have RG3 be solid to contend. Also, Tim Wright in rd 11 seems outrageous to me. He's borderline undraftable in my eyes.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Thanks Coots!First off I like your team, I was going to be much friendlier then the others...So you think you can get Amendola lower than 12th??? That is the lowest I have ever seen him being taken in any draft and I have done 7 before this. Also, Britt's ADP has been much higher since it is clear he is the #1 WR....sure Bradford is out but Hill is actually pretty competent and Britt should be good depth. You do not like 3 Defenses? LOL ok....I will be getting top 3 D production every week from them based on match ups -I was going to start arguing the opening point until I realized who OP was. At the very least, the guppy league is of more interest
Overall, I think I like the starting lineup. Cutler/Romo should be a really solid combo. RBs are nice and deep assuming Foster stays healthy. WRs are OK, think Alshon is good value in early 3rd and Harvin and Decker are OK value in 4th and 6th. Amendola and Britt seem a bit early for my taste, so think you may have some WR depth issues come bye weeks. Clay and Miller is a solid TE combo for 8th/9th round picks.
I don't understand the 3 Def strategy + Locker pick at all, I think at least 1 and probably both backup D picks could have been used on RB/WR and same with Locker's spot. It may work out for you, and quite frankly I hope it does as I think it is bad process so want others to continue to do it.
With 3 extra picks on upside RB/WR think I would like this team much more.
Week 1 - Bears at home vs Bills
Week 2 - Broncos at home vs Chiefs
Week 3 - Pats at home vs Raiders
Week 4 - Pats at Chiefs
Week 5 - Bears at Panthers
Week 6 - Pats at Bills or Broncos at Jets
Week 7 - Jets at Pats or Fins at Bears
Week 8 - Chargers at Broncos on short week
Week 9 - Only week I need to find some other WW D which I am sure I can, since Pats play Broncos and Bears are on bye
Week 10 - Broncos at Raiders
Week 11 - Broncos at Rams or Bears at home vs Vikings (could be rookie Bridgewater time by then in Minny)
Week 12 - Bucs at Bears or Fins at Broncos
Week 13 - Broncos at Chiefs
Week 14 - Bills at Broncos
Week 15 - Fins at pats
Week 16 - Pats at Jets or Lions at Bears (At Solider Field, Stafford is a turn over machine in the cold - go look at what he did a few years back when he threw 5 picks in one game)
As for Locker - Week 2, I plan to start him against the Cowboys. Any QB against the Boys is a guaranteed top 10 worst case and most likely top 5 QB that week. Locker gets the NFC East and AFC South and he has looked solid all preseason so I plan to spot start him
I know some of you sheep do not like to think for yourselves, but that is a good thing for some of us. Good luck with your year!
As for WR depth, I can start 4 RBs after the 2nd week and I can start 2 TEs anytime I want to. I do not need inconsistent WRs taking up roster spots, that I will never start anyways. Britt is a legit WR1 on his team that I can start any time I really need to - and I doubt I will ever have to. And Amendola will have his weeks - sure he will be inconsistent and has health issues but he is my WR4 that I never need to start. I have 4 RBs and 2 TEs I can start any week if needed.
All 4 of my RBs are proven top 3 RBs in the league in the last 3 years and both MJD and Rice have looked good in preseason - showing they still have it. Sure Foster was injured last year, but if he gets hurt, I have depth that is guaranteed to score points behind him.
Now I don't agree with much of your logic though... There is absolutely NO reason to ever have 3 defenses, which ever one you sit becuase you think the bears have a great matchup will go off and the bears will do ####.. Its just murphys law...
This isn't 3 years ago with those RBs, actually I think you are weak at the position.. Ray will help when he gets back but Foster is brittle and MJD is in a full time share.. I like the WRs and TEs will be fine...
Good Luck
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Clay; Miller and Gates were the only legit TEs left and I did not want to be left getting only one of them with no depth so I took 2 of them that I consider getting the most volume with no competition. I like to play QB match ups and Def match ups so I went that route. I have not done that in every league but in this case, I went with what made sense based on who else was available. The only regret I have is when I took the NE and Den Ds I almost picked Grimes to solidify my Foster pick. I gambled that Grimes will come back to me and he did not. I still do not think Foster is brittle though like Coots suggested and actually love getting his as a RB2. I expect a solid year from Foster, especially since he got to rest up the 2nd half of last year. I rather gamble on Foster than Lynch or Gore or Steven Jackson or Ben Tate or Zac Stacy or Andre Ellington or Reggis Bush or Joique Bell....you get the point
Yea, a little light at TE but I think Gates will still give solid production all year. Wish I had gone a little earlier with #2 and 3 but oh well. I think I have solid depth and upside at WR though. Enough to play 4 each week
I live in Saratoga Springs so I was with Parcells at the track on Saturday and he said Belichick has some irons in the fire down in Tampa. Just small talk along the rail.
I went in trying to land 4 WR in the first 6 rounds. After round 5 I was very happy. But the WR value was falling and RBs and TE were coming off. Colston was a good value. Probably a mistake but I had two week 4 byes with Floyd and DT. I was feeling OK til that Wright pick. Kelce went 2 picks before and he was the one I had targeted. It was between Wright and G. Graham and I buckled. Then I waited on QB and let both Cutler and Wilson slide, they got picked behind me and I had to settle for RG3. I have been killing myself all day over the picks at 11/12. I hope Wright works out.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Betting the ponies with Parcells and getting the inside scoop. Baller!
RG3 has definitely been sliding due to preseason. In my early draft, he went rd 7. I got him in round 10 during the last game and he dropped to round 12 for you. I think that is great value and a huge overreaction to a vanilla preseason offense. He has a relatively easy schedule.
jabarony
Footballguy
My first team (and only team - I don't have the disposable income everyone else in this thread does).
From the 6-hole.
QB - Foles (7)
RB - Lynch (2), Joique (4), Spoles (7), K. Davis (11), CJ Anderson (13), C. Polk (19), J. Gray(20)
WR - Calvin (1), Andre (3), Harvin (5), Welker (6), Boykin (14), Dobson (17)
TE - H. Miller (9), Cook (10), Allen (12)
K - Gostkowski (15)
D - ARI (16), PIT (18)
The only pick I wasn't entirely happy with was Welker. I was battling my computer, and was drafting semi-blind. Panicked a bit and had the commish pick him for me (yes, Sanders was gone).
Ridiculous draft in that one guy drafted RBs in rounds 1-8. But it's cool - he won 6 leagues last year!
I wish I was 1 pick earlier, as Forte (and ideally still Lynch) and Alshon would have been nice.
From the 6-hole.
QB - Foles (7)
RB - Lynch (2), Joique (4), Spoles (7), K. Davis (11), CJ Anderson (13), C. Polk (19), J. Gray(20)
WR - Calvin (1), Andre (3), Harvin (5), Welker (6), Boykin (14), Dobson (17)
TE - H. Miller (9), Cook (10), Allen (12)
K - Gostkowski (15)
D - ARI (16), PIT (18)
The only pick I wasn't entirely happy with was Welker. I was battling my computer, and was drafting semi-blind. Panicked a bit and had the commish pick him for me (yes, Sanders was gone).
Ridiculous draft in that one guy drafted RBs in rounds 1-8. But it's cool - he won 6 leagues last year!
I wish I was 1 pick earlier, as Forte (and ideally still Lynch) and Alshon would have been nice.
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jabarony
Footballguy
I think I may like Cook better as S. Hill loves the TE (at least he did a few years back in DET). But Miller is safer and was likelier to go. I'm not a huge fan of Allen, but I put my trust in those Audible guys who have been pumping him (HOT!). I would have been a lot happier with Mathews/Chris J/Gore instead of Welker, but that idiot made RBs fly off the board too early.
Last night from the 4 spot:
QB: Philip Rivers (12), Ben Roethlisberger (13), Ryan Tannehill (15)
RB: Jamaal Charles (1), Alfred Morris (5), Bernard Pierce (9), Jeremy Hill (10), Knile Davis (11), LeGarrette Blount (14)
WR: Jordy Nelson (2), Keenan Allen (3), Torrey Smith (4), Terrance Williams (7), Aaron Dobson (16)
TE: Zach Ertz (6), Heath Miller (8), C.J. Fiedorowicz (17), Mychal Rivera (19)
D/ST: Baltimore (18)
K: Chandler Castanzo (20)
I am very happy with the way the first third or so of this draft went, but I may have waited one round too long at QB (I particularly wanted Romo, who went a few picks after I took Knile Davis in the 11th), and not picking a wide receiver between rounds 7 and 16 isn't something I'd repeat. Still, I've got great RB depth and if my top guys at WR and TE perform, I think this team can do well.
QB: Philip Rivers (12), Ben Roethlisberger (13), Ryan Tannehill (15)
RB: Jamaal Charles (1), Alfred Morris (5), Bernard Pierce (9), Jeremy Hill (10), Knile Davis (11), LeGarrette Blount (14)
WR: Jordy Nelson (2), Keenan Allen (3), Torrey Smith (4), Terrance Williams (7), Aaron Dobson (16)
TE: Zach Ertz (6), Heath Miller (8), C.J. Fiedorowicz (17), Mychal Rivera (19)
D/ST: Baltimore (18)
K: Chandler Castanzo (20)
I am very happy with the way the first third or so of this draft went, but I may have waited one round too long at QB (I particularly wanted Romo, who went a few picks after I took Knile Davis in the 11th), and not picking a wide receiver between rounds 7 and 16 isn't something I'd repeat. Still, I've got great RB depth and if my top guys at WR and TE perform, I think this team can do well.
Couple things. Charles falls to 4?! Wow. And this is the 2nd draft ive seen with Alf falling to round 5 which is crazy value. He's a pretty safe RB2 even in PPR and getting him in the 5th is robbery. Conversely, I don't like Torrey in round 4, he's still a WR3 in my eyes, I know a lot of people are high on him this year, I am not one of them. Flacco just way too shaky. But overall, its a very solid WR core. Throw In Charles and a decent backfield, solid TE's, u have a really nice nucleus. Rivers/Rothlessberger will be serviceable enough considering the amount of talent you have elsewhere.
The 1 bizarre thing is Knile in rd 11. I realize all you Charles owners want to handcuff him but also realize the rest of the league isn't even looking at Knile Davis w/o owning Charles. You could have grabbed a better back and then taken Davis in like round 15+...
That's my 1 beef but its a nitpick . This is easily a playoff contender.
ParkwayWoof
Footballguy
11 hole
Rodgers/Carson
Gio/Lamar Miller/Sankey/JHill/JWhite/Riddick
Marshall/Roddy/Sanders/Boldin/Stills/Boykin/Hawkins/Woods
Pitta/MLewis
Rams D
Zuerelin
Rodgers/Carson
Gio/Lamar Miller/Sankey/JHill/JWhite/Riddick
Marshall/Roddy/Sanders/Boldin/Stills/Boykin/Hawkins/Woods
Pitta/MLewis
Rams D
Zuerelin
Thanks for your input!
I was shocked about Charles too. Forte was actually the top guy on my board -- I think Charles is a great pick but his TD totals are likely to regress from last year -- but Forte went 1st overall (followed by McCoy, then Graham).
As for Torrey, I really like him this year as the #1 WR in Kubiak's offense, and he seems to a take a step forward every year, even if it hasn't as big as the fantasy world hopes for in the past couple years. I probably could have gotten him a round later, but I wanted to be sure I had a strong WR3 with WR2 potential, and there wasn't much left at that point.
As you mention, I also likely could have gotten Knile Davis as round or two later, but I've seen him go this high to non-Charles owners so I felt compelled to get my Charles insurance even if it cost more than I wanted it to.
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Ok wow, I was dead wrong. I went back and looked at my first 3 drafts. You're spot on with Davis. He went in rds: 10/11/11 and the crazy part, not 1 was a Charles' owner!
I don't get it but nonetheless, you were wise to grab him there.
Regarding Torrey, I do like the Kubiak offense and that should bode well for Smith to be more consistent at least. Flacco can just play so poorly at times, my pessimism towards Smith is more of an indictment of Flacco then anything. Also for a guy that gets few redzone looks, he now has to contend with Pitta as well for TD's..
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I agree with most of this, the bolded I will take issue with. I have been semi-targeting Knile as a high-upside backup when I don't have Charles. He is a serious consideration for me in round 12/13 depending on what WRs are available. We won't get in to the handcuff strategy discussion here (in this format I am less of a fan), but if you want to guarantee yourself the handcuff then Knile in 11 sounds about right.
ETA: didn't see Da Gildz's 2nd post before I replied.
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Yea I just don't get it. He has no stand alone value and will need Charles to go down. To take a player in rd 11 who needs an injury to be relevant, just seems like a poor pick that high in the draft. There are other rb's in that area who at least have stand alone value and arent dependent on the guy in front of them getting injured. No one would even flex a Knile Davis as long as Charles is playing. Frankly, in my eyes, he's in the same class as a Jonathan Grimes/Bryce Brown/Hillman type who are all taken ~ rd 15 or so.
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Totally agree with you here. It's gotta be a combination of people viewing Charles as a relatively brittle RB, and the talent Knile Davis has shown when he has gotten on the field. I've seen quite a few "experts" suggest that Davis would be an "automatic RB1" if Charles went down for an extended period. That's gotta be pushing his value up quite a bit. With so many injuries that happen to RBs, everyone wants to grab that lottery ticket RB. Thing is, 11th round is too early for lottery tickets.
Exactly and just the same, Grimes/Brown/Hillman could be big time producers if their respective lead backs go down I have no issue with anyone taking him, its only where they're taking him.
And I also don't get why Charles is viewed as brittle in some circles. He had a major injury in 2011, outside of that he's missed 2 games in 5 seasons. I'd actually go the other way and say he's pretty dam durable for his size/stature.
I don't view Charles as particularly brittle, and I don't particularly like Knile Davis as a RB talent.
But when evaluating backup RBs, Davis has 2 big things in his favor:
1) Clear cut opportunity IF Charles goes down. Since predicting injuries is incredibly hard, I think the conditional workload is important. Would I rather have the backup to Montee Ball than Knile? Sure. Who is it? I think it is Hillman and have been loading up on him where available but not willing to take him as high as Knile as I'm not sure we would get a great workload if Ball goes down.
2) Andy Reid. The dude has been money when it comes to PPR RB usage, he throws them the ball a ton. Alex Smith being afraid to throw downfield doesn't hurt either.
So while I don't think Knile is anywhere near a top 12 RB talent (or 24 or probably 36), I think he could put up top 12 #s due to the offense he is in and the usage he would get.
Yes, he is a lottery ticket. Expensive lottery ticket, probably. But also a high-payout lottery ticket.
But when evaluating backup RBs, Davis has 2 big things in his favor:
1) Clear cut opportunity IF Charles goes down. Since predicting injuries is incredibly hard, I think the conditional workload is important. Would I rather have the backup to Montee Ball than Knile? Sure. Who is it? I think it is Hillman and have been loading up on him where available but not willing to take him as high as Knile as I'm not sure we would get a great workload if Ball goes down.
2) Andy Reid. The dude has been money when it comes to PPR RB usage, he throws them the ball a ton. Alex Smith being afraid to throw downfield doesn't hurt either.
So while I don't think Knile is anywhere near a top 12 RB talent (or 24 or probably 36), I think he could put up top 12 #s due to the offense he is in and the usage he would get.
Yes, he is a lottery ticket. Expensive lottery ticket, probably. But also a high-payout lottery ticket.
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Looking at 1 of my teams again, would like to hear some thoughts...I think once I can stick Rice into my RB2 hole, this can be a playoff team. Loading up on Sankey on 3 of my teams not looking so hot right now. I would be content if he's just a flex option even, which is saying a lot i guess. Also need to drop like 3 guys already off this team...
QB - Cutler
RB -Spiller
RB -Sankey
WR - Julio
WR - Jordy Nelson
Flex - Corderelle Patterson
Flex - Amaro/Hill
TE - Ertz
K - Novak
DST - STL
Bench
QB - Dalton
RB - Rice, Hill, West, Taylor
WR - Boykin, Marv Jones, Gordon
TE - Amaro, Wright, Finley
QB - Cutler
RB -Spiller
RB -Sankey
WR - Julio
WR - Jordy Nelson
Flex - Corderelle Patterson
Flex - Amaro/Hill
TE - Ertz
K - Novak
DST - STL
Bench
QB - Dalton
RB - Rice, Hill, West, Taylor
WR - Boykin, Marv Jones, Gordon
TE - Amaro, Wright, Finley
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I was originally pretty excited over my team but honestly I am getting a little worried the more I look at it. Any opinions or advice if I possibly do another draft is welcome
From the 5th pick.
Qb - Brady (9), Tannehill(16)
Rb - Peterson(1), Spiller(4), Moreno(8), McCluster(11), Ivory(13), Blount(14),
Wr - D. Jackson(5), Edelman(6), Decker(7), Hunter(10), M. Lee(12), Austin(15), Woods(20)
Te - Gronk(2), Cameron(3), Rodgers(17)
D - Buffalo(19)
K - Crosby(18)
From the 5th pick.
Qb - Brady (9), Tannehill(16)
Rb - Peterson(1), Spiller(4), Moreno(8), McCluster(11), Ivory(13), Blount(14),
Wr - D. Jackson(5), Edelman(6), Decker(7), Hunter(10), M. Lee(12), Austin(15), Woods(20)
Te - Gronk(2), Cameron(3), Rodgers(17)
D - Buffalo(19)
K - Crosby(18)
Why are u worried? This team is solid. You're pretty strong everywhere, a bit thin after Moreno but nothing that bad really. Any time I see Spiller in round 4, I'm pissed Im not in that league.
Think you had a fine draft though, flexing Decker/Cameron is a strong, strong duo.
I guess my biggest concern is WR and RB depth. And the fact I may have taken too many WR fliers. Way I looked at it was in those late round I'm hoping for a potential breakout.
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