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FBGs vs Kasparov- chess game- Draw agreed to (1 Viewer)
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John Bender
Footballguy
Also, at this point, I vote Joffer and/or SBob take us through the opening and just be honest here about where you're unsure or where roads diverge on the theory. I believe if Qc2 here, usually C5 is played against me when I'm white - but again - I don't play vs many nimzos. You guys should help us not #### it up til we get passed the opening
timschochet
Footballguy
Thanks! I'll watch that later today.
timschochet
Footballguy
Agreed. We want to get past the opening in good shape, Of course with some kind of direction for the middlegame.
John Bender
Footballguy
as long as they express with confidence ("this is the move") and maybe drop a sentence or two about why, this is the way to go. Then our "advantage" should kick in with more eyes on things. It's too unfamiliar for me, and seems like you're in the same boat along with the rest of us.
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
John Bender
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John Bender
Footballguy
John Bender
Footballguy
He's the best as far as relating "ideas" to the audience and has his own playlist on that channel if you want more.
You can learn/memorize openings. You can do all the standard endgame studies, but if you want to understand middle games and ideas behind moves in the middle game, to me, no one is better than Aviv.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
What happens if we delay castling, develop on the queen side and then decide when/where to castle based on the position?
I normally castle relatively early but curious if that's the consensus best play against someone like Kaspy.
I normally castle relatively early but curious if that's the consensus best play against someone like Kaspy.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Don't think you canderek245583 said:
timschochet
Footballguy
Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
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timschochet
Footballguy
So what's the deal? Are we supposed to take the knight? Keep developing? What's the plan here?
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Possibly helpful.I like his videos.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Oof. Well, 0-0 is pretty much the next logical move in response to e3 in the Rubinstein variations.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
timschochet
Footballguy
Why? And let's talk about the Rubinstein.Oof. Well, 0-0 is pretty much the next logical move in response to e3 in the Rubinstein variations.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
dancingbones
Footballguy
Castle?
c5?
bxc3?
c5?
bxc3?
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
There isn't really one Rubinstein because the guy had such a pervasive influence, but anytime anyone does e3 in a closed game, they're playing it against the Nimzo or its transpositions. I'd like to see what JB et al. say, but I'd say kingside castling is about 85% for the next move. In this case, it helps us because we are still on the attack with the pin and can take the time to tuck away our king.Why? And let's talk about the Rubinstein.Oof. Well, 0-0 is pretty much the next logical move in response to e3 in the Rubinstein variations.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Nice, I play the Rubinstein as White. Lots of viable moves for Black here, but I prefer playing in the style of Fischer with ...b6! Black's bishop will go to a6 in some lines putting immediate pressure on the c4-pawn or it can play from a normal spot such as b7, putting pressure on the long diagonal and White's king.
A standard continuation here might be
4... b6
5. Ne2 Ba6
6. a3 Be7
7. Nf4 d5 (continuing with pressure on the c4 pawn)
5. Bd3 would be White's other try, when Black instead develops the bishop to the long diagonal, castles short and plays d5
A standard continuation here might be
4... b6
5. Ne2 Ba6
6. a3 Be7
7. Nf4 d5 (continuing with pressure on the c4 pawn)
5. Bd3 would be White's other try, when Black instead develops the bishop to the long diagonal, castles short and plays d5
timschochet
Footballguy
It looks like e6 seems to invite an immediate Ne4. I know that's probably dumb, right?
timschochet
Footballguy
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
It depends. Just like with Qc2, 5. Ne2 will allow White to recapture with the knight and avoid the doubled pawns. So in that case, Black decline taking the knight and instead redeploys to Be7. Black isn't losing any time because the knight on e2 must move again if White wants to castle.
timschochet
Footballguy
OK that makes sense. What about taking the knight right now then, or Ne4?
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
No point in taking the knight unprompted, IMO.
timschochet
Footballguy
That was very helpful. It looks like b6 and c5 are both pretty aggressive, while castling is the more conservative approach. Thoughts?Possibly helpful.I like his videos.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
timschochet
Footballguy
Sacramento Bob, personally I am not opposed to more aggressive play like b6 and Ba6, but ONLY if you know the variations involved.
Based on the video, c5 is even more aggressive than b6 as it forces immediate confrontation.
Based on the video, c5 is even more aggressive than b6 as it forces immediate confrontation.
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Ah, go with b6 if the consensus is to be aggressive and not castle. I'll be curious to see if we get 5.Ne2 or 5.Bd3.
timschochet
Footballguy
There's no consensus yet. I'd like to hear from a few others especially Joffer since he seems to know this opening as well. It sure sounds like whatever we decide here will set the tone for the entire game, and I really don't know these variations at all.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I like b6 and later fianchettoing the bishop. And if he allows us the luxury of delaying castling, maybe castle on the queen side later? He may not be expecting that.Just throwing out food for thought, remember I'm still a 1200's player.That was very helpful. It looks like b6 and c5 are both pretty aggressive, while castling is the more conservative approach. Thoughts?Possibly helpful.I like his videos.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
tommyboy
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Yikes. Then we're relying on one guy- Sacramento Bob- to work us through it. He seems to know his stuff though. What say you guys?
grateful zed
Footballguy
flexability is good.
timschochet
Footballguy
IF we play b6 we're not going to fianchetto the bishop, because the only guy here who knows the lines for b6 wants to play the Fischer variation which is Ba6, putting added pressure on the c4 pawn. So if we play b6 we're going to follow Sac Bob's lead through the opening. Which is fine if that's what you guys want. Or we could just play it safe and conservative and castle which apparently more of you are familiar with.I like b6 and later fianchettoing the bishop. And if he allows us the luxury of delaying castling, maybe castle on the queen side later? He may not be expecting that.Just throwing out food for thought, remember I'm still a 1200's player.That was very helpful. It looks like b6 and c5 are both pretty aggressive, while castling is the more conservative approach. Thoughts?Possibly helpful.I like his videos.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
I'm familiar with what Bob advocates and have played it. I just don't like it.Kaspy was on a plane all day, he just landed.
4. e3
He writes:
Just landed. I think Qc2 is better here in this team vs. me format, but I'm well versed in the Rubinstein, so away we go.
I hope somebody here is well versed in the Rubinstein, too...
I would rather castle.
timschochet
Footballguy
Why don't you like it, AA?
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I like castling as the safe play but I'm wondering if something unconventional is needed to actually take him down.
You guys are better at this than me so I'll hang up and listen.
You guys are better at this than me so I'll hang up and listen.
John Bender
Footballguy
I'm down with going with SBob's call but to make sure he knows the pull the rip chord when he's unsure.
Also, I think I'm on the same page as Tim that each move suggestion needs to come with an explanation or analysis now.
Lastly, don't take the Knight unless we're prompted to. The pin will remain there and we don't need to pick up the Knight unprovoked, develop until he make us take it.
Were I playing this alone, I'd play C5 here, but I'm not so I defer to SBob.
Also, I think I'm on the same page as Tim that each move suggestion needs to come with an explanation or analysis now.
Lastly, don't take the Knight unless we're prompted to. The pin will remain there and we don't need to pick up the Knight unprovoked, develop until he make us take it.
Were I playing this alone, I'd play C5 here, but I'm not so I defer to SBob.
timschochet
Footballguy
My only concern with castling is that in my various losses to Kaspy I have never been able to put any pressure on him in my openings. Every game had led inevitably to a middlegame in which I am the guy being pressured, slowly but surely, until finally I am crushed. That experience makes me want to be more aggressive on the beginning to see if I can change that outcome. But that's just me though.
timschochet
Footballguy
There seems to be s consensus to follow Sacramento Bob's lead. But before we do that Id like to hear from you again Bob. If we do this you're going to call the shots for the next several moves most likely (though we expect you to explain your reasons for each move). We would need you to get us through this opening. Are you confident that you can?
Aerial Assault
Footballguy
Well, because either 5.Ne2 or 5.Bd3 effectively neutralizes the position (just IMO) and I feel like we've lost a tempo. I do understand what you're saying about castling against him, but I feel as though we've bought some time and maintained equality with our current position, and I would like to see what he does in response to a conservative move so we know what line of attack to pursue.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Oof, I thought WW was as nerdy as this place could get...
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Uhm allow me to say - this is awesome.
timschochet
Footballguy
We'll wait to hear back from Sac Bob. We have time.
derek245583
Footballguy
I f5 this thing all day and have my little board set up to play along and NOW the thread heats up.
derek245583
Footballguy
Can someone break down what b6 does for us?
I see everyone say "that's interesting". I just don't understand
I see everyone say "that's interesting". I just don't understand