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FBI raids homes of Occupy activists (1 Viewer)
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The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
Jojo the circus boy
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Ilov80s
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Is the Salem News also a Tehran based company? http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august132012/occupy-raids.php
3C's
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Well it does say (Tehran) at the beginning of the article.
Ilov80s
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ha, that it does. I can't find any other sources, everything seems pretty fringe. Here is a more legit source with a small blurb. http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-19506-murmurs_fbi_raids_an.htmlWell it does say (Tehran) at the beginning of the article.
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3C's
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http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/08/two_portland_residents_facing.html
So they raided the homes of suspected anarchists who destroyed federal property, but they're the victims.
So they raided the homes of suspected anarchists who destroyed federal property, but they're the victims.
Ilov80s
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For the record, I did not say that.http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/08/two_portland_residents_facing.htmlSo they raided the homes of suspected anarchists who destroyed federal property, but they're the victims.
3C's
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Oh, not saying you did. I'm pointing theFor the record, I did not say that.http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/08/two_portland_residents_facing.htmlSo they raided the homes of suspected anarchists who destroyed federal property, but they're the victims.
at those who were the targets of the raids.![[icon]](/data/avatars/m/5/5167.jpg?1660313464){kind=avatar}
mr roboto
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I call the Sheik's bed.
NCCommish
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Well maybe they are victims. Maybe this is intimidation by the government. The FBI has certainly been down that road more than once and you don't need Iranian news to know that. Or maybe it's legit but I'll need a bit more than the Feds word on that.Oh, not saying you did. I'm pointing theFor the record, I did not say that.http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/08/two_portland_residents_facing.htmlSo they raided the homes of suspected anarchists who destroyed federal property, but they're the victims.
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"National Weather Service Follows DHS In Huge Ammo Purchase
Why would the National Weather Service need to purchase large quantities of powerful ammo? That’s the question many are asking after the federal agency followed in the footsteps of the Department of Homeland Security in putting out a solicitation for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets. A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass.
A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
The National Weather Service is is one of six scientific agencies that make up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The solicitation requires a response by August 21.
The NWS is following its federal counterpart the DHS in securing large quantities of ammo. Back in March,Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.
As the Business Insider notes, hollow point bullets have been “illegal in international warfare since 1899.”
The DHS is also planning to purchase a further 750 million rounds of different types of ammo in a separate solicitation that also expires on August 20, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.
The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.
The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.
The federal government is clearly gearing up for the likelihood of civil unrest on a scale that could outstrip what we’ve already seen in countries across Europe.
While the establishment demonizes the second amendment in light of recent mass shootings and legislation is prepared to ban the sale of large quantities of ammunition online, the federal government is acquiring ammunition at levels necessary to fight a full scale domestic war."
Why would the National Weather Service need to purchase large quantities of powerful ammo? That’s the question many are asking after the federal agency followed in the footsteps of the Department of Homeland Security in putting out a solicitation for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets. A solicitation which appears on the FedBizOpps website asks for 16,000 rounds of .40 S&W jacketed hollow point (JHP) bullets, noted for their strength, to be delivered to locations in Ellsworth, Maine, and New Bedford, Mass.
A further 6,000 rounds of S&W JHP will be sent to Wall, New Jersey, with another 24,000 rounds of the same bullets heading to the weather station in St. Petersburg, Florida.
The solicitation also asks for 500 paper targets to be delivered to the same locations in Maine, Massachusetts and New Jersey.
The National Weather Service is is one of six scientific agencies that make up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
The solicitation requires a response by August 21.
The NWS is following its federal counterpart the DHS in securing large quantities of ammo. Back in March,Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.
As the Business Insider notes, hollow point bullets have been “illegal in international warfare since 1899.”
The DHS is also planning to purchase a further 750 million rounds of different types of ammo in a separate solicitation that also expires on August 20, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.
The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.
The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.
The federal government is clearly gearing up for the likelihood of civil unrest on a scale that could outstrip what we’ve already seen in countries across Europe.
While the establishment demonizes the second amendment in light of recent mass shootings and legislation is prepared to ban the sale of large quantities of ammunition online, the federal government is acquiring ammunition at levels necessary to fight a full scale domestic war."
cstu
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It's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
medium aristotle
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It's a state-owned propaganda outlet for government of IranIt's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.It's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
Epic Problem
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These people have homes?
freakinback
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I'm sure they are renters.
PlasmaDogPlasma
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Did you make that up or is it a quote from somewhere?
NCCommish
Footballguy
It's for Fish and Game which is under NWS for some weird reason.
Politician Spock
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Our founding fathers had their own propaganda outlets. They opposed a tyranical government, and without their own propoganda outlets we would probably still be under that tyrannical government today. I'm more interested in finding the truth than I am concerned about something being a propoganda outlet. If I lived in the 1770's to 1790's, and automatically ignored propoganda outlets, I would have ignored what the founding fathers of the USA were saying.It's a state-owned propaganda outlet for government of IranIt's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
I'm not suggesting at all that what PressTV is saying is right. Only that they could be right, despite be a propoganda outlet. They could be completely wrong as well.
If the US is being a tyrannical government like England was being in the 18th centurty, we citizens of the US likely wouldn't learn that internally. We would only learn that from external propoganda. I question what the US is doing in Iran... and in Syria, and Libya, and Iraq, et al. I'm not convinced what we are doing is right. I'm also not convinced that what PressTV says we are doing is right either. Like most situations where two parties completely disagree, the truth is probably somehwere in the middle.
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I'm just gonna go ahead and disagreeOur founding fathers had their own propaganda outlets. They opposed a tyranical government, and without their own propoganda outlets we would probably still be under that tyrannical government today. I'm more interested in finding the truth than I am concerned about something being a propoganda outlet. If I lived in the 1770's to 1790's, and automatically ignored propoganda outlets, I would have ignored what the founding fathers of the USA were saying.It's a state-owned propaganda outlet for government of IranIt's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
I'm not suggesting at all that what PressTV is saying is right. Only that they could be right, despite be a propoganda outlet. They could be completely wrong as well.
If the US is being a tyrannical government like England was being in the 18th centurty, we citizens of the US likely wouldn't learn that internally. We would only learn that from external propoganda. I question what the US is doing in Iran... and in Syria, and Libya, and Iraq, et al. I'm not convinced what we are doing is right. I'm also not convinced that what PressTV says we are doing is right either. Like most situations where two parties completely disagree, the truth is probably somehwere in the middle.
Mr Two Cents
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This post is not true.
Ilov80s
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In no way am I supporting the protesters or the FBI her, but there is overwhelming evidence the government has a lot of secrets, isn't fond of sharing them and for the most part the mainstream media leaves it alone. This is nothing new, but that doesn't make it any less dangerous or improper.
NCCommish
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The minimum was 15 pieces.You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.It's such an extreme news station that I just saw that the Yankees beat the Rangers 8-2 and the Dodgers beat the Pirates 5-4. :rollseyes:The station has been criticised for its uncritical embrace of provocative stances. For British journalist Nick Cohen the station is "a platform for the full fascist conspiracy theory of supernatural Jewish power"[3] and for commentator Douglas Murray it is the "Iranian government’s propaganda channel".[4]Responding to Cohen and others, George Galloway, the British MP and Press TV's best-known UK presenter, has said it "challenges the prevailing orthodoxy" by providing an outsider perspective on "the truth and a voice for the otherwise voiceless".[5] Mehdi Hasan of the New Statesman has argued that "engaging with Iran, no matter who is in charge in Tehran, is a prerequisite for peace and progress in the region. The very fact that Press TV is Iranian-owned makes it the ideal English-language platform on which to do so."[6]Source: PressTV
Wikipedia: Press TV is a 24-hour English language news network owned by the state-owned media corporation Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB). Its headquarters are located in Tehran, Iran.
fatness
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Time for another founding fathers history lesson from jon.Never saw this, but
At those trying to defend the OP. Especially good effort at the founding fathers comparison.
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