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FFA Moderation Thoughts - What Do You Think? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Joe Bryant
- Start date
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
NCCommish
Footballguy
During the run up to the Iraq War I was called many hateful things. None of them were true or even supported by what I posted. Mods were heavily involved in those threads. Including Joe. I don't remember a single person getting banned for any of that. People stalked me across numerous threads derailing them to attack me some more. Nothing. And that's fine. I am a big boy and I understand my opinions occasionally upset others. I believe management disagreed with my position and that's why little to no action was ever taken. But I lived through it. But when someone say calls out someone out for their obvious race baiting and general dooshery and they get banned? Yeah that then makes me wonder, where's the fairness in the system? And you know if you don't want to be called a racist don't post like one. So maybe mods need a more concrete guideline to go by. Because this I know it when I see it approach leads to a lot of uneven and even silly treatment.
Cliff Clavin
Footballguy
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Indeed, the race-baiting that is allowed in this forum is hardly likely to be earning FootballGuys, INC many new customers. Ditto the attacks on posters deemed to be non-patriotic enough (see the recent national anthem at athletic contests thread for evidence).
Al O'Pecia
Footballguy
I'll defend Tim since he's not here. I think he honestly believes it when he blames everything on white institutional racism rather than him trying to race-bait.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
I wasn't criticizing Tim. Tim isn't one of the posters who think the country was better before the Civil Rights Act was passed.
William Munny
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
On the + side porcupine it's good to see you came to your senses about your avatar.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
So Tim was suspended for something he said months or even years ago? 
Did whoever suspend look at the context of those posts?
The problem with Tim is and has been his stalkers. Here is how every political/breaking events thread goes:
-tim long windbag post
-5 stalkers tell Tim he's wrong, dumb, ignores his family
-another long Tim post
-4 more
posts
This is why we begged him to go and stay in his own thread. A political thread can be 15 pages and five pages are Tim and his stalkers, sometimes entire pages of exchanges! It's terrible.
As far as the moderation, do what you want, you own the place. But this forum is self-cleaning for the most part, has been for years. People constantly hitting the report button is half the problem, not sure why 40 year old white dudes are reporting other 40 year old white dudes on a football forum because they got their feelings hurt. Grow up.
Just like it's always been at FBG we should all know not to negatively influence the business model. No pissing in the Shark Pool, stay away from criticizing FBG main site and product line, and don't threaten to kill people (Tommy Gilmore rule).
I subscribe to FBG every year and I barely use the site, just a little draft prep. The reason I do it is to keep the FFA alive. But if we are going back to 2008 level moderation I'm keeping my money, moderating people's opinions is for Iran.
Did whoever suspend look at the context of those posts?
The problem with Tim is and has been his stalkers. Here is how every political/breaking events thread goes:
-tim long windbag post
-5 stalkers tell Tim he's wrong, dumb, ignores his family
-another long Tim post
-4 more
postsThis is why we begged him to go and stay in his own thread. A political thread can be 15 pages and five pages are Tim and his stalkers, sometimes entire pages of exchanges! It's terrible.
As far as the moderation, do what you want, you own the place. But this forum is self-cleaning for the most part, has been for years. People constantly hitting the report button is half the problem, not sure why 40 year old white dudes are reporting other 40 year old white dudes on a football forum because they got their feelings hurt. Grow up.
Just like it's always been at FBG we should all know not to negatively influence the business model. No pissing in the Shark Pool, stay away from criticizing FBG main site and product line, and don't threaten to kill people (Tommy Gilmore rule).
I subscribe to FBG every year and I barely use the site, just a little draft prep. The reason I do it is to keep the FFA alive. But if we are going back to 2008 level moderation I'm keeping my money, moderating people's opinions is for Iran.
actually, he was suspended for something in this particular thread that he posted last night.So Tim was suspended for something he said months or even years ago?
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
roadkill1292
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Thanks, Tim.
This is best guidance I have seen about what causes trouble:
- MT
And:
- Aaron
Personally aside from a pinned thread where mods discuss moderation rules - you know, like the upgrade thread, which was really helpful - I think some updating of the 2007 FAQ would be in order.
This is the entire guidance from the current FAQ:
And:
Presumably this means anything "offensive" is the definition of not being excellent to each other. That is extremely broad and inherently subject to uneven interpretation.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
at tim getting banned and then coming right back into the exact same thread and posting about it under his alias. 
Buckychudd
Footballguy
I know I'm way late to the thread and it seems like this may have devolved into a flame war, but here are my $0.02 anyhow.
Consistency is key. But posters need to understand that it's harder than it sounds. When you have multiple moderators they will always have a different understanding of where the line is. Heck, even one mod's understanding will change and evolve over time.
Doing what you say you're going to do is also key....same problems as above.
That being said, this place was way too heavily moderated a few years ago. It seemed people got banned for having fun and making jokes (i.e. TFP).
Now I would say it's gone slightly too far the other way. Too many instances of people trolling to get a rise out of people, and just as many instances of people being unexcellent.
Consistency is key. But posters need to understand that it's harder than it sounds. When you have multiple moderators they will always have a different understanding of where the line is. Heck, even one mod's understanding will change and evolve over time.
Doing what you say you're going to do is also key....same problems as above.
That being said, this place was way too heavily moderated a few years ago. It seemed people got banned for having fun and making jokes (i.e. TFP).
Now I would say it's gone slightly too far the other way. Too many instances of people trolling to get a rise out of people, and just as many instances of people being unexcellent.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
Bucky86 said:
I subscribe every year for the contest and Joe pinched me for saying breasteses. Looks like you deserved yours unlike myself
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HellToupee
Footballguy
Old Winston Churchill should get hit with the ugly stick for being dumb enough to do itIvanKaramazov said:
Joe got his normalized bell curve centered on "keep it how it is now" and checked out half way through page 2. Problem is the pole asked about the level of moderation and ignored consistency and/or bias that a lot of the comments, even on the first page and a half, tried to point out.Walking Boot said:
I agree with your second paragraph. Aaron does a pretty good job at moderation because he's here all the time and has a pretty good feel for the temperature of things. The moderation discussion seems pop up when FBGs who don't hang out here decide to come in, post and take an interest in a thread, and instead of joining the conversation at an even level resort right to their mod powers. Clayton in the Bernie thread is a perfect example, he even admitted it.
I'd prefer timeouts and post deletion be reserved for inflammatory comments. Having differing opinions is what makes this place great. I do not like jon_mx, but, if you've listened to conservative talk radio at all in the past month it is really easy to see that there are a lot of people putting blame on BLM & Obama for the police shootings. It is not a novel idea, probably warrants some debate, and he didn't deserve a timeout. Just MHO.
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Scoresman
Footballguy
Seconded. I just read the police shooting thread and that was some atrocious moderating, no offense. I disagree with jon_mx most of the time too but 30 days for a non-inflammatory post like that? Ridiculous. That absolutely reeked of "believe what I believe in or get a timeout."
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John Bender
Footballguy
I say this with all due respect @Joe Bryant , mostly because I don't want to get banned, but I have zero warning points here and hope you'll consider that when you hopefully don't ban me but...
It's amazing how out of touch you are with this place considering it makes up a good deal of your livelihood...it is your site, at the very least.
While Rude and Clayton really do a yeoman's job to cover this aspect of this business (and whomever I missed), you are asking for feedback and then, (at least temporarily), disappearing.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "We can handle posting pictures and youtube videos like adults (like every single other well moderated message board on the internet - including highly successful ones). We self moderate for the most part. If something it out of bounds, it will be reported, and taken down within minutes most times."
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "We're going to remove that privilege. Surely a group of 20K+ ? mid-life crisis aged men who've been here for over a decade can't handle that. Fun? There's no fun in the free for all!"
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "Ease up on the registration process." 3 league mates I referred here last year weren't able to get their handle's approved. I have no idea why. 1 of them was, but it took 5 days. This is the internet. It's time to integrate user feedback/message board activity to be part in parcel of your business (not just posting here, but using the IDP board, the Assistant Coach or Shark Pool forums). This isn't Club 54, it's footballguys.com - check the registration, if it's not a counterfeit of another IP, or an offensive handle, approve it...immediately. It's the internet, people lose interest quickly. What a welcoming community you have here when it's about a 30% chance ? you'll be able to register the board.
FBG Staff/Your reaction: Who knows, but this has gotten worse.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: No one's asking for 20 different sub forums. It's confusing with message boards who have them. It's nice we all congregate in the FFA for the most part, but for years and years and years, the only common, ubiquitous request has been for a "News, Current Events, and Politics Forum". Sports centric ancillary topics in the FFA are fewer and fewer with each passing year. There are what, hundreds, thousands who come here for nothing more than political debate? And 30-40% of them are doing nothing but trolling? ing at each other, insulting each other, bickering about the same ####### 5 topics over and over and over and over and over and over. What is the major complaint you get out of the FFA? #### from politics thread guys and those who argue with those politics threads guys. Cordon them off and let them go at it. I'd imagine the vast majority will still post in the FFA as well. WE have a baseball forum, is a News, Current Events and Politics Forum that ridiculous?
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "Yes that's ridiculous, even though it's the most overwhelming response from FBGs every time we have one of these come-to-Jesus threads"
3 Very minor, very simply things to make the quality of life here easier. And almost definitely, I'd bet anything, making moderation here easier. This is a good group of adults, who are generally respectful to each other with lots of ribbing, fun, injected with the toxic political discussion pill in too many ####### threads.
It's been the same here for going on 2 decades now? Small changes can be good. Especially when we've been asking for them, consistently, for so long now. You need to get more in tune with your users. You seem completely disconnected and it gets worse every year.
What I'm assuming FBG Staff/Your reaction will be: "if you don't like it, don't use the board."
BTW - I commend you and the staff for building the community you built here and getting so many great people to coalesce around a simple message board add-on to your main business. But, in my opinion, we're on the downslope here on the bell curve of FBG's message board popularity and relevancy. You can make it great again (see what I did there?) but you actually have to listen to us and then act on it. Most of the time, when you start these threads, you disappear (or comment but don't act) and the quality and integrity of the boards just continue to erode away. Personal anecdote: I come here for most everything, except for political/current event debate or discussion here I'm transitioned over to reddit for. They actually enforce the rules in select political threads there and take a zero tolerance approach to anything that's even slightly condescending. You could learn a lot by checking out one of their political subreddits without the same characters being richards to each other over and over.
It's amazing how out of touch you are with this place considering it makes up a good deal of your livelihood...it is your site, at the very least.
While Rude and Clayton really do a yeoman's job to cover this aspect of this business (and whomever I missed), you are asking for feedback and then, (at least temporarily), disappearing.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "We can handle posting pictures and youtube videos like adults (like every single other well moderated message board on the internet - including highly successful ones). We self moderate for the most part. If something it out of bounds, it will be reported, and taken down within minutes most times."
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "We're going to remove that privilege. Surely a group of 20K+ ? mid-life crisis aged men who've been here for over a decade can't handle that. Fun? There's no fun in the free for all!"
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "Ease up on the registration process." 3 league mates I referred here last year weren't able to get their handle's approved. I have no idea why. 1 of them was, but it took 5 days. This is the internet. It's time to integrate user feedback/message board activity to be part in parcel of your business (not just posting here, but using the IDP board, the Assistant Coach or Shark Pool forums). This isn't Club 54, it's footballguys.com - check the registration, if it's not a counterfeit of another IP, or an offensive handle, approve it...immediately. It's the internet, people lose interest quickly. What a welcoming community you have here when it's about a 30% chance ? you'll be able to register the board.
FBG Staff/Your reaction: Who knows, but this has gotten worse.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: No one's asking for 20 different sub forums. It's confusing with message boards who have them. It's nice we all congregate in the FFA for the most part, but for years and years and years, the only common, ubiquitous request has been for a "News, Current Events, and Politics Forum". Sports centric ancillary topics in the FFA are fewer and fewer with each passing year. There are what, hundreds, thousands who come here for nothing more than political debate? And 30-40% of them are doing nothing but trolling?
ing at each other, insulting each other, bickering about the same ####### 5 topics over and over and over and over and over and over. What is the major complaint you get out of the FFA? #### from politics thread guys and those who argue with those politics threads guys. Cordon them off and let them go at it. I'd imagine the vast majority will still post in the FFA as well. WE have a baseball forum, is a News, Current Events and Politics Forum that ridiculous?FBG Staff/Your reaction: "Yes that's ridiculous, even though it's the most overwhelming response from FBGs every time we have one of these come-to-Jesus threads"
3 Very minor, very simply things to make the quality of life here easier. And almost definitely, I'd bet anything, making moderation here easier. This is a good group of adults, who are generally respectful to each other with lots of ribbing, fun, injected with the toxic political discussion pill in too many ####### threads.
It's been the same here for going on 2 decades now? Small changes can be good. Especially when we've been asking for them, consistently, for so long now. You need to get more in tune with your users. You seem completely disconnected and it gets worse every year.
What I'm assuming FBG Staff/Your reaction will be: "if you don't like it, don't use the board."
BTW - I commend you and the staff for building the community you built here and getting so many great people to coalesce around a simple message board add-on to your main business. But, in my opinion, we're on the downslope here on the bell curve of FBG's message board popularity and relevancy. You can make it great again (see what I did there?) but you actually have to listen to us and then act on it. Most of the time, when you start these threads, you disappear (or comment but don't act) and the quality and integrity of the boards just continue to erode away. Personal anecdote: I come here for most everything, except for political/current event debate or discussion here I'm transitioned over to reddit for. They actually enforce the rules in select political threads there and take a zero tolerance approach to anything that's even slightly condescending. You could learn a lot by checking out one of their political subreddits without the same characters being richards to each other over and over.
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John Bender
Footballguy
cobalt_27
Footballguy
This is really good stuff here. I can't say I feel the level of passion about this that you do, but I think these are all entirely reasonable and productive suggestions.I say this with all due respect @Joe Bryant , mostly because I don't want to get banned, but I have zero warning points here and hope you'll consider that when you hopefully don't ban me but...
It's amazing how out of touch you are with this place considering it makes up a good deal of your livelihood...it is your site, at the very least.
While Rude and Clayton really do a yeoman's job to cover this aspect of this business (and whomever I missed), you are asking for feedback and then, (at least temporarily), disappearing.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "We can handle posting pictures and youtube videos like adults (like every single other well moderated message board on the internet - including highly successful ones). We self moderate for the most part. If something it out of bounds, it will be reported, and taken down within minutes most times."
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "We're going to remove that privilege. Surely a group of 20K+ ? mid-life crisis aged men who've been here for over a decade can't handle that. Fun? There's no fun in the free for all!"
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "Ease up on the registration process." 3 league mates I referred here last year weren't able to get their handle's approved. I have no idea why. 1 of them was, but it took 5 days. This is the internet. It's time to integrate user feedback/message board activity to be part in parcel of your business (not just posting here, but using the IDP board, the Assistant Coach or Shark Pool forums). This isn't Club 54, it's footballguys.com - check the registration, if it's not a counterfeit of another IP, or an offensive handle, approve it...immediately. It's the internet, people lose interest quickly. What a welcoming community you have here when it's about a 30% chance ? you'll be able to register the board.
FBG Staff/Your reaction: Who knows, but this has gotten worse.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: No one's asking for 20 different sub forums. It's confusing with message boards who have them. It's nice we all congregate in the FFA for the most part, but for years and years and years, the only common, ubiquitous request has been for a "News, Current Events, and Politics Forum". Sports centric ancillary topics in the FFA are fewer and fewer with each passing year. There are what, hundreds, thousands who come here for nothing more than political debate? And 30-40% of them are doing nothing but trolling?
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "Yes that's ridiculous, even though it's the most overwhelming response from FBGs every time we have one of these come-to-Jesus threads"
3 Very minor, very simply things to make the quality of life here easier. And almost definitely, I'd bet anything, making moderation here easier. This is a good group of adults, who are generally respectful to each other with lots of ribbing, fun, injected with the toxic political discussion pill in too many ####### threads.
It's been the same here for going on 2 decades now? Small changes can be good. Especially when we've been asking for them, consistently, for so long now. You need to get more in tune with your users. You seem completely disconnected and it gets worse every year.
What I'm assuming FBG Staff/Your reaction will be: "if you don't like it, don't use the board."
BTW - I commend you and the staff for building the community you built here and getting so many great people to coalesce around a simple message board add-on to your main business. But, in my opinion, we're on the downslope here on the bell curve of FBG's message board popularity and relevancy. You can make it great again (see what I did there?) but you actually have to listen to us and then act on it. Most of the time, when you start these threads, you disappear (or comment but don't act) and the quality and integrity of the boards just continue to erode away.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I don't know , ever since Mr ! Departed every interaction I've had with mods/staff have been pretty fair
Thanks John Bender. That's a bummer you think I'm that out of touch. Or that criticizing the forums would be something to be banned for.I say this with all due respect @Joe Bryant , mostly because I don't want to get banned, but I have zero warning points here and hope you'll consider that when you hopefully don't ban me but...
It's amazing how out of touch you are with this place considering it makes up a good deal of your livelihood...it is your site, at the very least.
While Rude and Clayton really do a yeoman's job to cover this aspect of this business (and whomever I missed), you are asking for feedback and then, (at least temporarily), disappearing.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "We can handle posting pictures and youtube videos like adults (like every single other well moderated message board on the internet - including highly successful ones). We self moderate for the most part. If something it out of bounds, it will be reported, and taken down within minutes most times."
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "We're going to remove that privilege. Surely a group of 20K+ ? mid-life crisis aged men who've been here for over a decade can't handle that. Fun? There's no fun in the free for all!"
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: "Ease up on the registration process." 3 league mates I referred here last year weren't able to get their handle's approved. I have no idea why. 1 of them was, but it took 5 days. This is the internet. It's time to integrate user feedback/message board activity to be part in parcel of your business (not just posting here, but using the IDP board, the Assistant Coach or Shark Pool forums). This isn't Club 54, it's footballguys.com - check the registration, if it's not a counterfeit of another IP, or an offensive handle, approve it...immediately. It's the internet, people lose interest quickly. What a welcoming community you have here when it's about a 30% chance ? you'll be able to register the board.
FBG Staff/Your reaction: Who knows, but this has gotten worse.
(most of) US/your subscribers who also use the boards: No one's asking for 20 different sub forums. It's confusing with message boards who have them. It's nice we all congregate in the FFA for the most part, but for years and years and years, the only common, ubiquitous request has been for a "News, Current Events, and Politics Forum". Sports centric ancillary topics in the FFA are fewer and fewer with each passing year. There are what, hundreds, thousands who come here for nothing more than political debate? And 30-40% of them are doing nothing but trolling?
FBG Staff/Your reaction: "Yes that's ridiculous, even though it's the most overwhelming response from FBGs every time we have one of these come-to-Jesus threads"
3 Very minor, very simply things to make the quality of life here easier. And almost definitely, I'd bet anything, making moderation here easier. This is a good group of adults, who are generally respectful to each other with lots of ribbing, fun, injected with the toxic political discussion pill in too many ####### threads.
It's been the same here for going on 2 decades now? Small changes can be good. Especially when we've been asking for them, consistently, for so long now. You need to get more in tune with your users. You seem completely disconnected and it gets worse every year.
What I'm assuming FBG Staff/Your reaction will be: "if you don't like it, don't use the board."
BTW - I commend you and the staff for building the community you built here and getting so many great people to coalesce around a simple message board add-on to your main business. But, in my opinion, we're on the downslope here on the bell curve of FBG's message board popularity and relevancy. You can make it great again (see what I did there?) but you actually have to listen to us and then act on it. Most of the time, when you start these threads, you disappear (or comment but don't act) and the quality and integrity of the boards just continue to erode away. Personal anecdote: I come here for most everything, except for political/current event debate or discussion here I'm transitioned over to reddit for. They actually enforce the rules in select political threads there and take a zero tolerance approach to anything that's even slightly condescending. You could learn a lot by checking out one of their political subreddits without the same characters being richards to each other over and over.
Can you describe in more detail what you'd personally like in a FFA subforum? Or exactly how you'd like the forums broken down?
For the moderating with the reddit style, can you describe how you'd think the enforcement should go when a poster is even slightly condescending? I think the most difficult part of moderating a board is making the judgement calls on the gray area stuff like that.
J
Thanks Koya. I guess maybe I should have been more clear on what I meant this thread to be. I heard some people say they wanted more strict moderation. I then I asked the question of the board with a quick poll. Lots of people replied pretty quickly and I felt like I got the answer to the question. It was that they felt it was ok the way it was. I didn't see it as much bigger than that. Certainly not a "Come to Jesus" meeting or an "all hands on deck". I listened, asked a question and you guys answered.
J
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
Everyone should have to take a drug test. If you pass, you get banned immediately.
John Bender
Footballguy
Sure, I appreciate you've engaged me, so I'll try to earnestly expound on my post. (My original post, was meant to be earnest as well FWIW. I know you don't like whining - I wasn't; I was responding to your OP).
To be honest, I don't think much needs to be changed with your forums - that was half the point of my post. There are glaring issues that come up here every time we do one of these threads - a News, Current Events and Politics Sub-forum is always the most resounding gripe or response. FBG FFA is like that old family owned restaurant in your home town that people continue to go to because it's comfortable and you've been going there for years. Yeah, the french fries are clearly made from frozen, and the baked stuffed haddock recipe hasn't changed in 40 years but that's why you go there. 2 parts nostalgia, 1 part being actually interested in being there. After hitting up your friendly neighborhood restaurant for 40 years, it starts to get overrun with people shouting at each other, calling each other tools, laughing sarcastically at each other. This may be a microcosm of how the world is for all I know. You have the neighborhood yenta Tim who people actually plan not to sit around because they don't want to get sucked into some non ending political debate each week about the same thing over and over (all due respect to Tim, just an example -he and I get along very well) and just enjoy their food. After a while, the place is so over run with people just being general a-holes to each other that they start to go to Applebees instead just to avoid dealing with that nastiness. Have you been in your political threads here Joe? The place is a cesspool in those threads. Not just because of Trump, they've gotten progressively worse for years.
When you, the owner of Maggie's Family Restaurant ask the establishment "what can I do better?" and the overwhelming response is "throw the guys who wanna talk politics in the room near the salad bar" but you ignore it, the driving force of your business eventually gets turned off, or stick to their small booth in the corner. BTW - the salad bar "room" doesn't have a wall up. It's just out of ear shot of the people who want to have a few beers, eat some baked stuffed haddock and play trivia with the local wedding DJ once in a while. We're still all friends.
I don't think the forums need to be broken down any more than they are now Joe. A News, Views, Politics and Current Events sub forum doesn't expand the forums into some uncontrollable entity. Again - we have a baseball forum. It's not an obscene request if we're going to cordon off baseball guys to simply give the politics guys a home on the other side of the restaurant as well. This isn't only me - this is your overwhelming respond to every time you do one of these threads. I'm just trying to roll it up for you.
Moderation wise, you don't need to change much - I'm not complaining about the moderation here. Again, your staff does such a great job. Their job would be easier with a politics subforum. But in general, we moderate ourselves.
We don't need 50 sub forums, message boards that have 160 different places where you can post are ridiculous. But politics, gun control, election, news events, etc etc crap has utterly overrun the community here. And a LOT of it is nasty. Go into the Donald Trump thread and start on page 50 if you need evidence (that's just a random page BTW) of just not being excellent to each other. How about the guys with alias accounts in there and in the Bernie threads
ing and admitting they were aliases for months and months and nothing being down. Isn't that one of your basic tenents? How about tim coming in here, after being suspended for being a #### and then posting under his alias that we all know exists? Then we all laugh at it like it's so brazen, it's funny. That's a daily occurence here. It's one big running joke. My only opinions on how to sub out the forums are above. They are pretty benign and in the majority of the feedback you always get here. You're overall doing a great job, you could make it better and actually give us what we want. Or it could continue to go downhill.
Best
Also JB
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Joe, I think most FFA posters would like a subforum (or just another forum -- not sure how that works) for current events/politics. Particularly with the reduction of topics shown on the first page with the recent upgrade, the number of political/current events threads often dominate the first page and seems less inviting for users less interested in debating that stuff.
John Bender
Footballguy
Really? The over run so many threads. If you want to get news here, forget it. By page 3, it will be a gun control debate, or a debate about Hillary Clinton.
Right now, 5 of the 25 threads on page 1 are political. 2 are pinned. 18 are random.
We're less than 6 months away from a general election, 25% election talk doesn't seem that bad to me.
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Capella
Footballguy
@Joe Bryant longtime member, first-time caller.
Seriously the moderation here is mainly fine. But why take the embedded pictures away? It's 2016, we can handle it. If anybody posted something out of line it would get reported immediately and that aspect really made the site 10x more enjoyable.
Seriously the moderation here is mainly fine. But why take the embedded pictures away? It's 2016, we can handle it. If anybody posted something out of line it would get reported immediately and that aspect really made the site 10x more enjoyable.
John Bender
Footballguy
Yes, I left this out of my answer to your post Joe.
Refer to my first post on the pictures thing. Really man? We can't handle direct posting a picture when we could just post the link anyway? That's just silly.
Van Dyman
Footballguy
Dude! There's work to be done here and we may have the owner's ear. Please stop playing.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
If you're asking for a News, Current Events and Politics Sub-forum, though, you're still going to have to sift through the politics threads to find the news. I, for one, think if the political threads were in their own sub-forum, that would solve most of the issues.
KCitons
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John Bender
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eh
Pretty sure Joe just trolled me anyway. He essentially asked what's wrong with this place, I explained, he responded by asking again what's wrong with this place.
Total mind####. I JUST EXPLAINED IT!!!!!!!
Pretty sure Joe just trolled me anyway. He essentially asked what's wrong with this place, I explained, he responded by asking again what's wrong with this place.
Total mind####. I JUST EXPLAINED IT!!!!!!!
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