**FFA POKER** (2 Viewers)

[UniAlias]

Anyone?

Missed your post yesterday. May be around much later tonight, depends when GF falls asleep. Will shoot you a PM if I get free.

 

[Pumpnick]

Cav keeps telling me he's mad at me for inviting him to that poker site where he lost money. As though I had the doomswitch here in my living room and was screwing with him.

It's shady? I'm still playing there, what were the issues?

 

[eoMMan]

Anyone?

I'd play a tourney later tonight but no HU.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I shut down the site I ran on PS because it was under my name and I could not transfer it. I know I could have messed with the options and not got every email from the site but I killed it instead and I had to have no members to do that. Now someone else can take over and rebuild but I am done with all that.

To Otis's site. There was many bs things that happened there, and I was skeptical before I joined and expressed that to O. Maybe it is my paranoia or what not or just the glitches in the software but when I played in big pots and upper levels it almost always glitched. It is what it is. If you have ever played there you know the glitch that I am taking about.

 

[IC FBGCav]

The hand: that made me know it was fixed was 3/6 PLO hand. At this table with a maniac that won of bluffed ever hand. 9 handed I think. Maniac was in the BB. UTG bet max. 7 callers UTG raises pot. Everyone calls but maybe 2. 500+ in the pot. Flop comes BB does nothing and times out. Not check, times out. This can be a coincidence. But whatever. I flopped the nut full house and checked. No bets to the turn where we went all in and I lost to the guy that flopped quads. There is nothing that the maniac could do to win that hand after the flop and fortunately times out after playing every hand reckless and coming up on top for the last hour? Might be coincidence or might not. Maniac was up and ready and played the next hand.

 

[IC FBGCav]

And thing you have to realize is a timeout is the only thing that would work for him, if he had the action he would bet hard on any flop, if he checked it would been out of character for him.

 

[IC FBGCav]

so Cav got angry and booted everyone out of group due to Otis setting him up on a shady site?

Potentially.

Maybe he just gave up poker. I can't imagine he bailed on all you guys because he's mad at me.

just noticed the email last night, thought maybe he just booted me since i haven't played in a long time. looks like he brought out the hammer on everyone.

Weird. Haven't heard from him in months. Got one of his early morning PMs a few days ago asking if I was up. That's usually his way of asking if I want to play. I didn't get it till the next day, responded the next night when I was around and looking to play. He responded that I "led him and others here to a shady site" and that he is as a result "out of the Otis business." Not sure if that's supposed to be an insinuation that he thinks I owned the site or something or stole his money, or if he's just made that I led us all to the site and we lost money there, but either way it was weird. Haven't heard since. Maybe he's just quit poke completely?



This place is weird and passed me by eons ago.

yeah i don't think that site was shady, but due to it being somewhat "underground" i assume it was a lot of solid players at limits like 5/10 NL. Then again pretty much all sites at those levels are filled with "pros" for the most part nowadays.

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

 

[IC FBGCav]

In the end I probably lost 3k there, not the first time or last time in my life I lose 3K. But O got rakeback on all the people here, misrepresented what the site was and in the end it just is not cool to me. I pay my debts and give free money all the time. I never lead people wrong. But if I feel I got taken I say something, did I get taken? I don't know but it feels funny.

 

[Otis]

I shut down the site I ran on PS because it was under my name and I could not transfer it. I know I could have messed with the options and not got every email from the site but I killed it instead and I had to have no members to do that. Now someone else can take over and rebuild but I am done with all that.

To Otis's site. There was many bs things that happened there, and I was skeptical before I joined and expressed that to O. Maybe it is my paranoia or what not or just the glitches in the software but when I played in big pots and upper levels it almost always glitched. It is what it is. If you have ever played there you know the glitch that I am taking about.

glitches

 

[Otis]

In the end I probably lost 3k there, not the first time or last time in my life I lose 3K. But O got rakeback on all the people here, misrepresented what the site was and in the end it just is not cool to me. I pay my debts and give free money all the time. I never lead people wrong. But if I feel I got taken I say something, did I get taken? I don't know but it feels funny.

Let me know what I misrepresented. Some guys at this site told me about it. I joined. Uni and others saw me at the tables and vouch for the fact that I was up MASSIVELY the first couple of weeks. Why are you being a child about the fact that you lost, and seeking to blame me?

Sorry you lost money at poker. I did too.

 

[Otis]

Anyone not crazy and wanna play some cards?

 

[TxBuckeye]

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

Started that way. But then it was posted by many of us that the fish were already swallowed by the sharks and it quickly became a very difficult site. That was why I bailed fairly quickly.

 

[Otis]

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

Started that way. But then it was posted by many of us that the fish were already swallowed by the sharks and it quickly became a very difficult site. That was why I bailed fairly quickly.

You mean I didn't misrepresent the site and install glitches on your PC????

 

[TxBuckeye]

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

Started that way. But then it was posted by many of us that the fish were already swallowed by the sharks and it quickly became a very difficult site. That was why I bailed fairly quickly.

You mean I didn't misrepresent the site and install glitches on your PC????

No glitches necessary. I suck bad enough at poker to lose it all on my own.

 

[Otis]

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

Started that way. But then it was posted by many of us that the fish were already swallowed by the sharks and it quickly became a very difficult site. That was why I bailed fairly quickly.

You mean I didn't misrepresent the site and install glitches on your PC????

No glitches necessary. I suck bad enough at poker to lose it all on my own.

Still mad about this site. Literally had thousands of cash arrive at my house via FedEx. If only I'd have quit while I was ahead....

 

[Otis]

Bender? Uni? Chet? HUNE1?

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players played there from here?

 

[IC FBGCav]

The site was presented as a place that people don't know how to play poker and they just gamble sportsbook style and go here to lose their money. Or am I wrong?

Don't care enough to pull posts but my memory is good enough.

Started that way. But then it was posted by many of us that the fish were already swallowed by the sharks and it quickly became a very difficult site. That was why I bailed fairly quickly.

Smart man.

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

They had big time games at the site......but you told me you never played there heads up..........fish and all.

 

[John Bender]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players played there from here?

I actually gotta say, i don't think he did.

We were picked out to join this site...

You, Oats and Me based on our reputation here. I think you got a pm long before Otis invited you. I thought about it but didnt like the paypal / fedex structure

But im almost certain in the first PM I got from the guy who helped set this up it was "im sending this invite to you Otis and Cav as the only 3 guys I know who play real high stakes poker on FBG"

maybe im misremembering, but I dont think I am

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

They had big time games at the site......but you told me you never played there heads up..........fish and all.

You seriously are insane. I mean that with love.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players played there from here?

I actually gotta say, i don't think he did.

We were picked out to join this site...

You, Oats and Me based on our reputation here. I think you got a pm long before Otis invited you. I thought about it but didnt like the paypal / fedex structure

But im almost certain in the first PM I got from the guy who helped set this up it was "im sending this invite to you Otis and Cav as the only 3 guys I know who play real high stakes poker on FBG"

maybe im misremembering, but I dont think I am

He already said he got paid.

 

[John Bender]

Oat

in for some 50-100 dollar games - too drunk to play higher than that tonight

Set em up and I'll join

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

They had big time games at the site......but you told me you never played there heads up..........fish and all.

You seriously are insane. I mean that with love.

I love you too. I am insane. But I speak what I think is correct.

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players played there from here?

I actually gotta say, i don't think he did.

We were picked out to join this site...

You, Oats and Me based on our reputation here. I think you got a pm long before Otis invited you. I thought about it but didnt like the paypal / fedex structure

But im almost certain in the first PM I got from the guy who helped set this up it was "im sending this invite to you Otis and Cav as the only 3 guys I know who play real high stakes poker on FBG"

maybe im misremembering, but I dont think I am

That actually sounds right. That said I know there were people here you contacted me via PM and who I referred and collected rakeback on. Of course, I never actually collected a penny of that rakeback because I lost it all , but I did get perks for referrals.

Pretty sure the people I referred I also told them how to hook up rakeback for themselves.

 

[Otis]

Oat

in for some 50-100 dollar games - too drunk to play higher than that tonight

Set em up and I'll join

Lining em up now. I have jock itch so my wife won't have secks wif me, so this is the next best thing.

 

[IC FBGCav]

I spoke my peace. I am done.

 

[Otis]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

They had big time games at the site......but you told me you never played there heads up..........fish and all.

You seriously are insane. I mean that with love.

I love you too. I am insane. But I speak what I think is correct.

So your theory is that because I didn't play HU there, I was cheating you guys?

I play poker literally ONLY with people, all here in the FFA. Heads up. And it's basically three people at this point. It's not like I'm out there earning a living sharking dudes on the web with HU poker and looking for opportunities to play.

This stupid new poker site allowed me to just easily deposit and easily withdraw. Every other site requires me to go to a ####### western union in a drug infested part of town and fax cash to africa or some ####. This site just accepted Paypal. So I started playing. And I was cleaning the #### up. And people here watched it with their own eyes. I'm not sure what kind of criminal ####### mastermind you think I am, but honestly, the kind of effort and hours you're suggested here aren't worth my time.

You're seriously nuts. And I think you have a drinking problem. You need to stop with random weird poker invites at 6am ET and then when I don't respond immediately calling me out as a scaredy cat. I sleep at night. I play poker with guys here for fun. Chill, broseph.

 

[Otis]

I spoke my peace. I am done.

Cool. I guess as a grown man I prefer taking responsibility for my own decisions. But to each his own.

 

[UniAlias]

Whoa, what the hell happened in here?!

I don't understand complaints about that site. Action was good, deposits were easy, payouts handled promptly (I heard ), and the app worked fine.

My only complaint was that Oats did tell me how to sign up for rakeback, and I was under the assumption it would be credited at the end of the month. I didn't play nearly as much as O, but I logged quite a few hours at the 5/10 table during that short period. Unfortunately, never received anything back. Wasn't a huge deal, probably wouldn't have amounted to much anyway.. Just thought that was strange.

Also hated the glitch where players could go all-in, then rebuy a full stack mid-hand. One guy must have had tons of money loaded on that site, because he would constantly make sure he had everyone covered at the table by rebuying in like that.

Eta: I didn't mean to imply that Otis mislead me or anything about the rakeback. I fault the site, as I believed I had signed up for it. May have just been a user error on my part for all I know.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Whoa, what the hell happened in here?!

I don't understand complaints about that site. Action was good, deposits were easy, payouts handled promptly (I heard ), and the app worked fine.

My only complaint was that Oats did tell me how to sign up for rakeback, and I was under the assumption it would be credited at the end of the month. I didn't play nearly as much as O, but I logged quite a few hours at the 5/10 table during that short period. Unfortunately, never received anything back. Wasn't a huge deal, probably wouldn't have amounted to much anyway.. Just thought that was strange.

Also hated the glitch where players could go all-in, then rebuy a full stack mid-hand. One guy must have had tons of money loaded on that site, because he would constantly make sure he had everyone covered at the table by rebuying in like that.

this happened to me too.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Otis, glitch mean it takes a long time after hand to pay the person who won their money. Hands is over and it takes 10 seconds before the next one is played while the chips sit out there. Another glitch is when action is done during a hand it takes 5 seconds for the river card to come. Again it is what it is. I have no upside here.

Did you get paid from the players play here?

Oh, that's the technical term.

Yes I got rakeback for referrals. Same as with nearly any other site. That mean I hacked the software to screw you?

What do I have to gain by calling this out?

Hell if I know??

You are the heads up champ right?

#### yeah, brah.

They had big time games at the site......but you told me you never played there heads up..........fish and all.

You seriously are insane. I mean that with love.

I love you too. I am insane. But I speak what I think is correct.

So your theory is that because I didn't play HU there, I was cheating you guys?

I play poker literally ONLY with people, all here in the FFA. Heads up. And it's basically three people at this point. It's not like I'm out there earning a living sharking dudes on the web with HU poker and looking for opportunities to play.

This stupid new poker site allowed me to just easily deposit and easily withdraw. Every other site requires me to go to a ####### western union in a drug infested part of town and fax cash to africa or some ####. This site just accepted Paypal. So I started playing. And I was cleaning the #### up. And people here watched it with their own eyes. I'm not sure what kind of criminal ####### mastermind you think I am, but honestly, the kind of effort and hours you're suggested here aren't worth my time.

You're seriously nuts. And I think you have a drinking problem. You need to stop with random weird poker invites at 6am ET and then when I don't respond immediately calling me out as a scaredy cat. I sleep at night. I play poker with guys here for fun. Chill, broseph.

Lets say this 100% true. I took nothing from people here nor did I embark in a venture to gain from anyone here. I may be nuts and may be drunk but what I am is not you.

 

[IC FBGCav]

And Otis quit acting like this is something new and I did not PM you about. Nothing I said here was not said to you personally first.

 

[UniAlias]

FWIW Otis didn't take anything from me and I don't think he was pimping the site to specifically gain anything from people here. Whatever small referral kickback Oats got surely paled in comparison to the stakes he was playing for at the time.

I don't understand why you're so upset.

 

[IC FBGCav]

Not upset. Trust thing. Went into this thread fighting and leaving it fighting. No big deal. He is a punk, nothing more.

 

[Otis]

Whoa, what the hell happened in here?!

I don't understand complaints about that site. Action was good, deposits were easy, payouts handled promptly (I heard ), and the app worked fine.

My only complaint was that Oats did tell me how to sign up for rakeback, and I was under the assumption it would be credited at the end of the month. I didn't play nearly as much as O, but I logged quite a few hours at the 5/10 table during that short period. Unfortunately, never received anything back. Wasn't a huge deal, probably wouldn't have amounted to much anyway.. Just thought that was strange.

Also hated the glitch where players could go all-in, then rebuy a full stack mid-hand. One guy must have had tons of money loaded on that site, because he would constantly make sure he had everyone covered at the table by rebuying in like that.

Eta: I didn't mean to imply that Otis mislead me or anything about the rakeback. I fault the site, as I believed I had signed up for it. May have just been a user error on my part for all I know.

Yeah I had to bug the guy to send my rakeback. He didn't do it automatically, but sent it after I asked, about a week into the following month.

 

[Otis]

And Otis quit acting like this is something new and I did not PM you about. Nothing I said here was not said to you personally first.

Yesh and I was totally cool with it when you PMd it to me?

 

[Otis]

Not upset. Trust thing. Went into this thread fighting and leaving it fighting. No big deal. He is a punk, nothing more.

Get better at cards, brah. Don't cry or blame your losses on me.

 

[Otis]

FWIW Otis didn't take anything from me and I don't think he was pimping the site to specifically gain anything from people here. Whatever small referral kickback Oats got surely paled in comparison to the stakes he was playing for at the time.

I don't understand why you're so upset.

The rakeback was lol in comparison to what I was winning or losing in a given week. I pimped the site because I was crushing it. I guess Cav is mad I didn't continue to crush it? Actually if I had, he would have accused me of being in on the big scam.

Now I'm gonna deposit again. Cav, sign up, I can get you rakeback.

 

[Otis]

Cav FYI there is space in my inbox, feel free to PM an apology anytime.

 

[Pumpnick]

So, did anyone have problems cashing out there?

 

[Otis]

So, did anyone have problems cashing out there?

None here. I got a FedEx full of cash each time I requested. (Maybe three times?)

You have issues? Does anyone know if the site is still up?

 

[Pumpnick]

So, did anyone have problems cashing out there?

None here. I got a FedEx full of cash each time I requested. (Maybe three times?)

You have issues? Does anyone know if the

site is still up?

Haven't tried to cash out and I usually play 1/2 nl , not the higher stakes like you guys. It was still up a few days ago.

 

[TxBuckeye]

So, did anyone have problems cashing out there?

I only played like a week and didn't care for it, so asked to cash out. Oat's buddy promptly put it right back in the popular online payment site most of us used, didn't even make me go through a check process. This isn't the norm, he was doing me a solid since it was a minor amount. But he definitely handled it personally, which I thought was cool.

As for this whole (slightly odd) fiasco, Cav spoke his piece, voiced his concerns. Oat responded. It's really time to take it to PM and let this thread be here for what it was intended, rather than getting it locked.

 

[Otis]

So, did anyone have problems cashing out there?

I only played like a week and didn't care for it, so asked to cash out. Oat's buddy promptly put it right back in the popular online payment site most of us used, didn't even make me go through a check process. This isn't the norm, he was doing me a solid since it was a minor amount. But he definitely handled it personally, which I thought was cool.

As for this whole (slightly odd) fiasco, Cav spoke his piece, voiced his concerns. Oat responded. It's really time to take it to PM and let this thread be here for what it was intended, rather than getting it locked.

Fair. Guy keeps accusing me of scamming him, I felt compelled to respond. Nothing more I need to say.

Anyone around for some HU cards? I'll disable my h4x.