FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (6 Viewers)

[Gottabesweet]

Probably shouldnt have tailed on Southern Alabama down big at half. Trying to make up big on yesterdays UFC getting crushed! My own fault. Good work Bmj

 

[Gottabesweet]

Probably shouldnt have tailed on Southern Alabama down big at half. Trying to make up big on yesterdays UFC getting crushed! My own fault. Good work Bmj

Foot in mouth, they cut it to 6 and are getting 2Hoping for a good second half!

 

[The Ref]

Well freaking sportsbook finally cut me off...anyone with any info on this please PM me.

Cut you off? For what?

winning I guess Cut to $10 max on on all prop and futures betsI've been hitting them pretty hard on Hockey SOG props...but still keeping my bet size Under $100. Sucks

LOLDear REF,This is e-mail is to inform you that management has decided to limit your Hockey Prop Bets to $25.Hugs and kissesSportsbook.comNow me and my Buddy are cut off.

 

[The Ref]

Well freaking sportsbook finally cut me off...anyone with any info on this please PM me.

Cut you off? For what?

winning I guess Cut to $10 max on on all prop and futures betsI've been hitting them pretty hard on Hockey SOG props...but still keeping my bet size Under $100. Sucks

LOLDear REF,This is e-mail is to inform you that management has decided to limit your Hockey Prop Bets to $25.Hugs and kissesSportsbook.comNow me and my Buddy are cut off.

You know what I can't stop thinking? If sportsbook.com is the only book who offers SOG bets and they are geting killed with them, why not stop offering them and let players keep betting other hockey props where they aren't hitting at 80%+?

 

[The Ref]

FWIIW - Sportsbook did confim that they are sending me a check this week, so as it turns out it "only" took 3 weeks.

 

[TheGooRoo]

Well freaking sportsbook finally cut me off...anyone with any info on this please PM me.

Cut you off? For what?

winning I guess :(Cut to $10 max on on all prop and futures betsI've been hitting them pretty hard on Hockey SOG props...but still keeping my bet size Under $100. Sucks

LOLDear REF,This is e-mail is to inform you that management has decided to limit your Hockey Prop Bets to $25.Hugs and kissesSportsbook.comNow me and my Buddy are cut off.

You know what I can't stop thinking? If sportsbook.com is the only book who offers SOG bets and they are geting killed with them, why not stop offering them and let players keep betting other hockey props where they aren't hitting at 80%+?

They stopped offering them last year after getting killed. The challenge is to find a local/multiple locals that offers a full menu of Sportsbook props.

 

[modogg]

They stopped offering them last year after getting killed. The challenge is to find a local/multiple locals that offers a full menu of Sportsbook props.

How do you guys find a "local"? Do you mean bookies that offer prop bets? or is it some other local online shop trying to get started?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I'm on tilt. Taking the heat.

 

[lumpy19]

They stopped offering them last year after getting killed. The challenge is to find a local/multiple locals that offers a full menu of Sportsbook props.

How do you guys find a "local"? Do you mean bookies that offer prop bets? or is it some other local online shop trying to get started?

Some locals clone online book lines, the goal is to find one that clones sportsbook.com lines....they have websites setup that just copy lines from certain books, you can bet on sportsbook.com lines but not at sportsbook.com, it's the ideal setup for prop players.ETA: as for finding a local....just gotta ask around.

 

[The Ref]

Well freaking sportsbook finally cut me off...anyone with any info on this please PM me.

Cut you off? For what?

winning I guess Cut to $10 max on on all prop and futures betsI've been hitting them pretty hard on Hockey SOG props...but still keeping my bet size Under $100. Sucks

LOLDear REF,This is e-mail is to inform you that management has decided to limit your Hockey Prop Bets to $25.Hugs and kissesSportsbook.comNow me and my Buddy are cut off.

Hold the phone Wick - I'm not cut off. I just hung up the phone with sportsbook. I guess I must have read the e-mail wrong - what they were saying is that I was cut off from using any other affiliated sportsbooks to go over limits that are set. I was able to place one bet over $25 today and they sent this e-mail yesterday so I think that what they told me on the phone was right. Is below the e-mail you got?"This is just a short note to inform you that your wagering limits have been lowered to $25 as per management decision on all your related accounts from our affiliated brands for Hockey Props. Remember that using multiple accounts or creating new accounts to circumvent these limits will forfeit your deposit and winnings. If you are uncertain whether a particular brand you are using is affiliated please contact us immediately prior to submitting any additional deposits or wagers. Should you require further assistance or information, please reply to this message or chat live by clicking the link below. Your reference ID for this email is XXXXXXXXXXX; please quote this number in any further communication on this subject."Strange thing is I don't have any affiliated accounts. Guess I'll see what happens tomorrow night.

 

[modogg]

They stopped offering them last year after getting killed. The challenge is to find a local/multiple locals that offers a full menu of Sportsbook props.

How do you guys find a "local"? Do you mean bookies that offer prop bets? or is it some other local online shop trying to get started?

Some locals clone online book lines, the goal is to find one that clones sportsbook.com lines....they have websites setup that just copy lines from certain books, you can bet on sportsbook.com lines but not at sportsbook.com, it's the ideal setup for prop players.ETA: as for finding a local....just gotta ask around.

hmm, i guess it has been awhile since i have worked with a bookie. all the one's i know use notebook and pen . may have to find out what else is out there these days

 

[lumpy19]

Matchbook no longer accepting US customers. Major kick in the nuts with baseball season about to start.

 

[Lupe]

Matchbook no longer accepting US customers. Major kick in the nuts with baseball season about to start.

I don't see how they can get enough liquidity without US customers? I can't see them surviving. What is their reasoning for banning US customers? Is this only new US customers, or does it include existing Matchbook users?

 

[MarshallPlan]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

 

[lumpy19]

Matchbook no longer accepting US customers. Major kick in the nuts with baseball season about to start.

I don't see how they can get enough liquidity without US customers? I can't see them surviving. What is their reasoning for banning US customers? Is this only new US customers, or does it include existing Matchbook users?

All current US account holders with a balance are required to withdraw in the next 31 days, if you don't money goes to an antiguan regulator. I'm thankfully not funded there so I don't know all the details.A poster claiming to be part of the new ownership is posting over on 2+2 and states they're going into the asian market and that liquidity on all sports will be as good if not better without US customers 2+2 thread He has enough knowledge that it seems like he's telling the truth.

Looks like betonline/5dimes is going to get my baseball action. 5dimes has nickel overnights and BOL is claiming dimelines up to -200 with 5k limits

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

So does this mean you won't be posting your ######ed SB prop bets next year?

 

[lumpy19]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

Nope. formula is pretty simple, if you win you get cut. the only unknown at this point is how they decide when to cut. I've had 3 accts cut at sportsbook on props, no consistency in any of them. I've had a sportsbook acct cut on everything(not just props) to 500 after slamming them with teasers this past NFL season. My teaser leg bets are less than 500/per leg so it doesn't limit me at all on those bets. FYI chad millman tweeted that sportsbook took 26k in action on the cam newton 40 prop, line opened at 4.51 and moved to 4.6, he ran a 4.59 and book lost 9k. so even with them cutting players left and right they still get lots of action on these props

 

[MarshallPlan]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

So does this mean you won't be posting your ######ed SB prop bets next year?

SB props are different, imo, because every book posts them and most copy off other books. Plus they take tons of action on SB props. Lumpy - I don't believe in the "if you win you get cut." I won over 30k from SB from this year and last year before they cut me down to $100 max props a few months ago. Did they just forget about my account? I don't know the reasoning but I was not playing any of GR's stuff last year (well I wasn't subscribed) and started a few months ago this year. 2 months later cut - coincidence?

I didn't share many props at all and even so people may not have been tailing.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

So does this mean you won't be posting your ######ed SB prop bets next year?

SB props are different, imo, because every book posts them and most copy off other books. Plus they take tons of action on SB props. Lumpy - I don't believe in the "if you win you get cut." I won over 30k from SB from this year and last year before they cut me down to $100 max props a few months ago. Did they just forget about my account? I don't know the reasoning but I was not playing any of GR's stuff last year (well I wasn't subscribed) and started a few months ago this year. 2 months later cut - coincidence?

I didn't share many props at all and even so people may not have been tailing.

I was kidding.And thanks for crowbarring this little fun fact. Hope you're paying taxes since you like to publicize so much.

 

[lumpy19]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them.

GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

So does this mean you won't be posting your ######ed SB prop bets next year?

SB props are different, imo, because every book posts them and most copy off other books. Plus they take tons of action on SB props. Lumpy - I don't believe in the "if you win you get cut." I won over 30k from SB from this year and last year before they cut me down to $100 max props a few months ago. Did they just forget about my account? I don't know the reasoning but I was not playing any of GR's stuff last year (well I wasn't subscribed) and started a few months ago this year. 2 months later cut - coincidence?

I didn't share many props at all and even so people may not have been tailing.

Hmmmmm I said if you win you get cut....you won 30k and they cut you....I can see why you don't believe my statement.I NEVER played GR's stuff on 2 of the accts, one of the accts took 2 months to get cut without a bet over $200 on props and sides/totals bets of 500-1k to cover the prop action. I never shared any of the bets.

I'm glad you won 30k....I kind of think you're full of #### but I don't really care, winning and getting cut is part of how sports wagering works. You seem to have some good sports knowledge but your knowledge of sportsbooks and the offshore industry is terrible. You can theorize all you want but there are now 2 sportsbooks available to US citizens that might not cut you if you win, greek and bookmaker. With matchbook gone that's it.

 

[MarshallPlan]

But lump, I'm saying I only got cut after playing GR's stuff. I went a few years betting my own stuff and winning, yet only after I joined with Gr did they finally cut me. Maybe it's a coincidence, we'll never know.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win. Add 5dimes and their $100 limits to that small list if you want.

Believe me if you want about my winning, I certainly don't care one bit.

 

[lumpy19]

But lump, I'm saying I only got cut after playing GR's stuff. I went a few years betting my own stuff and winning, yet only after I joined with Gr did they finally cut me. Maybe it's a coincidence, we'll never know.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win. Add 5dimes and their $100 limits to that small list if you want.

Believe me if you want about my winning, I certainly don't care one bit.

this tells me i was right, you have no clue how the sports betting thing works.

 

[MarshallPlan]

But lump, I'm saying I only got cut after playing GR's stuff. I went a few years betting my own stuff and winning, yet only after I joined with Gr did they finally cut me. Maybe it's a coincidence, we'll never know.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win. Add 5dimes and their $100 limits to that small list if you want.

Believe me if you want about my winning, I certainly don't care one bit.

this tells me i was right, you have no clue how the sports betting thing works.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

But lump, I'm saying I only got cut after playing GR's stuff. I went a few years betting my own stuff and winning, yet only after I joined with Gr did they finally cut me. Maybe it's a coincidence, we'll never know.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win. Add 5dimes and their $100 limits to that small list if you want.

Believe me if you want about my winning, I certainly don't care one bit.

posting this means you care. a lot, actually.

 

[Scruff Mcgruff]

Nets +2.5/ML vs Suns tonight.

This line keeps rising, Suns on a B2B after a hard-fought victory in overtime yesterday. All of the public on Suns. Nets are a surprisingly tough team at home and are back after playing three straight road games, I think Deron Williams gives those Nets fans there first victory at home.

Going to wait to bet the game though because spread looks like it is going to continue to rise

 

[lumpy19]

But lump, I'm saying I only got cut after playing GR's stuff. I went a few years betting my own stuff and winning, yet only after I joined with Gr did they finally cut me. Maybe it's a coincidence, we'll never know.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win. Add 5dimes and their $100 limits to that small list if you want.

Believe me if you want about my winning, I certainly don't care one bit.

this tells me i was right, you have no clue how the sports betting thing works.

Every book* cuts winners, i'm not sure why you can't understand this. I don't know your specific details but here's how it worksstep 1 lose money betting on sports

step 2 break even

step 3 small winner

step 4 increase bankroll = increase bet size

step 5 increased bet size = increased winnings

step 6 email from sportsbook manager that they no longer want your business or they just cut your limits with no explanation

step 7 find next sportsbook

maybe you're stuck in step 3/4, i have no idea but i'm telling you from experience this is how it works. 30k is a nice score, congrats but if you bled it out over a few years then thats why you weren't cut. If you want to stick to $50/$100 bets and grind year after year and never increase your bet size maybe you won't get cut(i'm guessing you still will it'll just take longer)

* pinnacle is the only sportsbook I know of that has gone on record that they want winners

ETA: sportsbooks are businesses, their goal is to make money, they don't want winners. Pinnacle has a different business model than every other sportsbook, that's why they want winners, the winners give them the information they're looking for to set lines. They're some good interviews over at SBR with a pinnacle "trader" that explain how they work and why they like sharp players.

 

[MarshallPlan]

I understand how this works, I really don't need the breakdown. I haven't heard anyone cut off from bodog for beating their props, that was my question.

 

[lumpy19]

I understand how this works, I really don't need the breakdown. I haven't heard anyone cut off from bodog for beating their props, that was my question.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win.

It sure seems like you don't understand it

 

[The Ref]

I think it's safe to say that sharing prop plays is major -EV. The Ref and his friend are a very good example - posted some very good plays. Always had a good day it seemed, didn't last long for him. Maybe if he didn't share them with us, he'd still be able to bet them. GR will have to think twice about still offering props at sportsbook. Sure the guy is a winner but if nobody can bet more then $5 on them it's useless.

 

[MarshallPlan]

I understand how this works, I really don't need the breakdown. I haven't heard anyone cut off from bodog for beating their props, that was my question.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win.

It sure seems like you don't understand it

Quite cocky aren't we.

 

[lumpy19]

I understand how this works, I really don't need the breakdown. I haven't heard anyone cut off from bodog for beating their props, that was my question.

I actually think bodog is a book that is one of the better prop books and may not cut you if you win.

It sure seems like you don't understand it

Quite cocky aren't we.

what did I say that would be taken as cocky? you asked questions, i answered back with my personal experiences, just because i pointed out you falling all over yourself doesn't make me cocky.

 

[nittanylion]

Taking a long look at Villanova +5 @ Notre Dame tonight. I know 'nova has been recently slumping, and the Irish have been on a tear, and this is ND's Senior Night, and the positive tournament implications of a Fighting Irish victory are huge...but I can't ignore two things: Notre Dame doesn't have the physical inside presence to hold off 'nova pounding it in the paint, nor do they have the arsenal of scorers to keep pace with 'nova when the Wildcats are playing their brand of basketball (which, admittedly, they haven't been lately). Cory Fisher hasn't been himself lately, and as his fortunes go, so go the 'cats, as of late...I think it's only a matter of time before he's on track again, and Notre Dame plays to his strengths...I can't imagine the line going DOWN, because -5 already seems to low to begin with...I'm not playing yet, but I think this one gets enough action before tipoff to move it a point...getting 'nova +6 without buying is solid, I think.

Good Luck, all!

 

[MarshallPlan]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

 

[TheWick]

SB just put up some Draft props...easy pickings

 

[bmj87]

Got an mlb system in place as well, trial run during spring training. Just posting them in order to keep track. I wouldn't tail unless you have nothing better to do. Today:

LAA -135

ARI -130

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Got an mlb system in place as well, trial run during spring training. Just posting them in order to keep track. I wouldn't tail unless you have nothing better to do. Today:LAA -135ARI -130

nice work over the weekend fella

 

[lumpy19]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

Some light reading linkI never got cut specifically from props on bodog, they just put my entire acct on telephone only after beating them on line moves on a few CBB totals.

When I try and bet a prop at bodog right now I get this message

Bet Type is not available for this combination of selections. Please contact our call center to place a wager (1-888-263-0000, option 1).

when I call that number I am informed that they won't accept any wagers from my account.Next.....

ETA: here's a link to a screenshot with todays NBA prop as an example

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

Some light reading linkI never got cut specifically from props on bodog, they just put my entire acct on telephone only after beating them on line moves on a few CBB totals.

When I try and bet a prop at bodog right now I get this message

Bet Type is not available for this combination of selections. Please contact our call center to place a wager (1-888-263-0000, option 1).

when I call that number I am informed that they won't accept any wagers from my account.Next.....

ETA: here's a link to a screenshot with todays NBA prop as an example

Face it, you aren't as awesome as he is at Bodog.

 

[MarshallPlan]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

Some light reading linkI never got cut specifically from props on bodog, they just put my entire acct on telephone only after beating them on line moves on a few CBB totals.

When I try and bet a prop at bodog right now I get this message

Bet Type is not available for this combination of selections. Please contact our call center to place a wager (1-888-263-0000, option 1).

when I call that number I am informed that they won't accept any wagers from my account.Next.....

ETA: here's a link to a screenshot with todays NBA prop as an example

Face it, you aren't as awesome as he is at Bodog.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

Some light reading linkI never got cut specifically from props on bodog, they just put my entire acct on telephone only after beating them on line moves on a few CBB totals.

When I try and bet a prop at bodog right now I get this message

Bet Type is not available for this combination of selections. Please contact our call center to place a wager (1-888-263-0000, option 1).

when I call that number I am informed that they won't accept any wagers from my account.Next.....

ETA: here's a link to a screenshot with todays NBA prop as an example

gotta say, Bodog Becky is fn hot

 

[modogg]

Taking a long look at Villanova +5 @ Notre Dame tonight. I know 'nova has been recently slumping, and the Irish have been on a tear, and this is ND's Senior Night, and the positive tournament implications of a Fighting Irish victory are huge...but I can't ignore two things: Notre Dame doesn't have the physical inside presence to hold off 'nova pounding it in the paint, nor do they have the arsenal of scorers to keep pace with 'nova when the Wildcats are playing their brand of basketball (which, admittedly, they haven't been lately). Cory Fisher hasn't been himself lately, and as his fortunes go, so go the 'cats, as of late...I think it's only a matter of time before he's on track again, and Notre Dame plays to his strengths...I can't imagine the line going DOWN, because -5 already seems to low to begin with...I'm not playing yet, but I think this one gets enough action before tipoff to move it a point...getting 'nova +6 without buying is solid, I think.Good Luck, all!

Sounds good, I'm in

 

[The Ref]

Two star play red wings under 32.5 -115

Kings have only given up more then 32 shots at him three times this year.

 

[bmj87]

Hurry

2u Morgan St -1.5

 

[lumpy19]

If you have some evidence that bodog cuts off winning prop players that would be great.

Some light reading linkI never got cut specifically from props on bodog, they just put my entire acct on telephone only after beating them on line moves on a few CBB totals.

When I try and bet a prop at bodog right now I get this message

Bet Type is not available for this combination of selections. Please contact our call center to place a wager (1-888-263-0000, option 1).

when I call that number I am informed that they won't accept any wagers from my account.Next.....

ETA: here's a link to a screenshot with todays NBA prop as an example

Face it, you aren't as awesome as he is at Bodog.

 

[lumpy19]

Hurry 2u Morgan St -1.5

grabbed -2 at half, lets do this

 

[tjnc09]

Haven't posted in a while, but here's my plays tonight:

1u Northern Colorado -6

1u under Jackson St / Ark PB 127

1u over Atlanta / Denver 202

 

[nittanylion]

For the record, the Villanova line never moved, stayed at +5 to tipoff...I played for a unit just to play something, since I wasn't home in time to catch bmj's Morgan St., which would have been my fix of choice on a slow night...

...so Notre Dame can't miss from downtown, they've hit like what, a hundred 3's tonight? I can't resist. Down 20 at halftime, I'm getting my unit back with Villanova -2.5 2nd Half. It's a slow night. If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging...

...mostly because there's nothing better to do.

 

[RedRaiders]

Matchbook no longer accepting US customers. Major kick in the nuts with baseball season about to start.

Worst ####### news ever. I've been working a balance there too, the withdrawal option is just killer without b2bs.

 

[derek245583]

For the record, the Villanova line never moved, stayed at +5 to tipoff...I played for a unit just to play something, since I wasn't home in time to catch bmj's Morgan St., which would have been my fix of choice on a slow night......so Notre Dame can't miss from downtown, they've hit like what, a hundred 3's tonight? I can't resist. Down 20 at halftime, I'm getting my unit back with Villanova -2.5 2nd Half. It's a slow night. If I'm going down, I'm going down swinging......mostly because there's nothing better to do.

Welp, I took Nova with you.....they just stink right now. They cant score at all.

 

[The Ref]

Sportsbook has posted Draft Props. I kind of like Cam Newton NOT a top 3 pick for +200.