Tailing. Got him at +500At Sportsbook? Bonus of doubling if he totals +100ydstabbed rice for 1st td at 450 earlier. now going with fitz at +400
i have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential. as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
Are these on tv? I'll bet on anything I can watchi have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential.UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
yes, versus tonight at 9. pretty smart of them to do this as no SNF leaves a big ol void for half drunk, fired up football fans coming home from the bars.Are these on tv? I'll bet on anything I can watchi have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential.UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
after last year's CAR-Ari game, i have no idea.Will anyone have half a clue how to bet no/ari? I can't even begin to figure out what the line might be. Guessing NO -4.5?
I am so pissed about the Direct TV / Versus crap!!Can't watch this one!like the card tonight too for the WEC. Faber, Brown, Leber and Ben Henderson all on one card. nice
Apparently not in Arizona.....Random question. Do you think the "up" guys on the kickoff team study film of the kicker's run up to the kick to try to detect onsides kicks?
This is why I ask. I would always have my 2 guys on the left side and the middle guy play up in situations like that. And heck maybe everytime.Random question. Do you think the "up" guys on the kickoff team study film of the kicker's run up to the kick to try to detect onsides kicks?
Go VolsAlso Got TEN +10 / Under 156 for 1/2u action play keg is tapped
. it will be a great card too. and apparently a "big" announcement during the card. i know the UFC will have a few cards on Vs. this year, so i think my relationship with DirecTV is coming to an endI am so pissed about the Direct TV / Versus crap!!Can't watch this one!like the card tonight too for the WEC. Faber, Brown, Leber and Ben Henderson all on one card. nice
I bet big on Henderson. Might even put more on him. Varner will not be able to hang with Henderson for 5 rounds after taking that much time off for injuries.i have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential. as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
Coin toss was HUGE for you in OT.I didn't watch the game, but this game certainly reminds me of the Pitt/GB game from a few weeks ago.And my Rodgers ov 29 comp. +800 has more then a fighting chance.
Huge for my gb -2 -110 and az +3 -105 too.Coin toss was HUGE for you in OT.I didn't watch the game, but this game certainly reminds me of the Pitt/GB game from a few weeks ago.And my Rodgers ov 29 comp. +800 has more then a fighting chance.
I run bad. Down goes un 5 sacks -110 too...Huge for my gb -2 -110 and az +3 -105 too.Coin toss was HUGE for you in OT.I didn't watch the game, but this game certainly reminds me of the Pitt/GB game from a few weeks ago.And my Rodgers ov 29 comp. +800 has more then a fighting chance.
Easy money, never any doubtmore az +3(-105) at bodoglost all my manning mvp money on that first game....need az to show up here
O/U on how long it takes for the thread to turn on MP after he won us back over...33' hours. And ugh...what a piss poor way for the game to end.
im hoping for late money to come in on Varner and i will put more on Bendo as well.I bet big on Henderson. Might even put more on him. Varner will not be able to hang with Henderson for 5 rounds after taking that much time off for injuries.i have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential. as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
Sorry...just busting your stones. I am bitter after a bad weekend capped off by my failure to get off my GB pk play on about 100 occasions.O/U on how long it takes for the thread to turn on MP after he won us back over...33' hours. And ugh...what a piss poor way for the game to end.
No harm, no foul. I am trying my best to not be an ####### to people anymore. I'm not even sure why I started posting picks here anymore. I guess GR lured me out?Another week, we move on....Sonny!!!!Sorry...just busting your stones. I am bitter after a bad weekend capped off by my failure to get of my GB pk play on about 100 occasions.O/U on how long it takes for the thread to turn on MP after he won us back over...33' hours. And ugh...what a piss poor way for the game to end.
He is not fooling me. He is as full of BS as he always was. I dont think I could ever trust him or what he says.O/U on how long it takes for the thread to turn on MP after he won us back over...33' hours. And ugh...what a piss poor way for the game to end.
i for one welcome our entertainment overlordHe is not fooling me. He is as full of BS as he always was. I dont think I could ever trust him or what he says.O/U on how long it takes for the thread to turn on MP after he won us back over...33' hours. And ugh...what a piss poor way for the game to end.
I took Denver pretty big, and that was my only one in hoops.I was so hungover I dozed in and out all day, missing plays. Took Baltimore, but slept through AZ damnit. Did take GB at the half so I ended up going 3 - 0...but still feels like I could have done more.yeah without the lines posted, I was kind of unsure what to do. I ended up doing an 1f bet with DEnver on top, then WSt. and the others.MAybe Shoulda done the rr parlay, as temple, det covered and cuse pushed.Damon, you get on any of these? Lines have moved a bit...BRONG said:Here ya go, Damon:
Temple
Detroit
Syracuse
Denver
Wright St
San Diego
Oregon St
Green Bay was only -2.5 because every amateur in the world thought they'd easily win. I think you'll have to use the opening line for this logic to work. They started at +2 or so meaning they'd be -4 on their home field. Meaning the Saints are 3-points better than the Packers on a neutral field, which is probably close. Green Bay shouldn't have been -2.5; the betting public drove them up to an incorrect price.Let me see if I understand this. GB is -2' at AZ. That's -8' on their home field in GB. Now the Saints are -7 on their home field off a bye. The oddsmakers are telling us they think GB should be favored over the Saints by 1' pts on a neutral field. I don't know, but a 14-2 team on a neutral field should not be underdogs to a 10-6 WC team. Either the Saints line this week needs to be higher or the Pack should not have been -2' at AZ this week. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but either way something is off.
Very good points here and I would have to agree with you. What should this NO/AZ line be in your mind?Green Bay was only -2.5 because every amateur in the world thought they'd easily win. I think you'll have to use the opening line for this logic to work. They started at +2 or so meaning they'd be -4 on their home field. Meaning the Saints are 3-points better than the Packers on a neutral field, which is probably close. Green Bay shouldn't have been -2.5; the betting public drove them up to an incorrect price.Let me see if I understand this. GB is -2' at AZ. That's -8' on their home field in GB. Now the Saints are -7 on their home field off a bye. The oddsmakers are telling us they think GB should be favored over the Saints by 1' pts on a neutral field. I don't know, but a 14-2 team on a neutral field should not be underdogs to a 10-6 WC team. Either the Saints line this week needs to be higher or the Pack should not have been -2' at AZ this week. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but either way something is off.
With New Orleans not having won a game since mid December and the Cardinals just beating everyone's dark horse, I don't think you can make the line more than 7. Anything over 7 gets all Arizona action plus opens it up to NO teasers and 10 is simply way too much for a team that hasn't won a game by double digits in 6 games going up against last year's NFC super bowl participant.7 is the only option here I think.Very good points here and I would have to agree with you. What should this NO/AZ line be in your mind?Green Bay was only -2.5 because every amateur in the world thought they'd easily win. I think you'll have to use the opening line for this logic to work. They started at +2 or so meaning they'd be -4 on their home field. Meaning the Saints are 3-points better than the Packers on a neutral field, which is probably close. Green Bay shouldn't have been -2.5; the betting public drove them up to an incorrect price.Let me see if I understand this. GB is -2' at AZ. That's -8' on their home field in GB. Now the Saints are -7 on their home field off a bye. The oddsmakers are telling us they think GB should be favored over the Saints by 1' pts on a neutral field. I don't know, but a 14-2 team on a neutral field should not be underdogs to a 10-6 WC team. Either the Saints line this week needs to be higher or the Pack should not have been -2' at AZ this week. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but either way something is off.
it's tease-able at 7With New Orleans not having won a game since mid December and the Cardinals just beating everyone's dark horse, I don't think you can make the line more than 7. Anything over 7 gets all Arizona action plus opens it up to NO teasers and 10 is simply way too much for a team that hasn't won a game by double digits in 6 games going up against last year's NFC super bowl participant.7 is the only option here I think.Very good points here and I would have to agree with you. What should this NO/AZ line be in your mind?Green Bay was only -2.5 because every amateur in the world thought they'd easily win. I think you'll have to use the opening line for this logic to work. They started at +2 or so meaning they'd be -4 on their home field. Meaning the Saints are 3-points better than the Packers on a neutral field, which is probably close. Green Bay shouldn't have been -2.5; the betting public drove them up to an incorrect price.Let me see if I understand this. GB is -2' at AZ. That's -8' on their home field in GB.
Now the Saints are -7 on their home field off a bye. The oddsmakers are telling us they think GB should be favored over the Saints by 1' pts on a neutral field. I don't know, but a 14-2 team on a neutral field should not be underdogs to a 10-6 WC team.
Either the Saints line this week needs to be higher or the Pack should not have been -2' at AZ this week. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but either way something is off.
that's what I'll tell myself to help me sleep at night at least,lumpy19 said:it's tease-able at 7Warehouse Nasty said:With New Orleans not having won a game since mid December and the Cardinals just beating everyone's dark horse, I don't think you can make the line more than 7. Anything over 7 gets all Arizona action plus opens it up to NO teasers and 10 is simply way too much for a team that hasn't won a game by double digits in 6 games going up against last year's NFC super bowl participant.7 is the only option here I think.MarshallPlan said:Very good points here and I would have to agree with you. What should this NO/AZ line be in your mind?Warehouse Nasty said:Green Bay was only -2.5 because every amateur in the world thought they'd easily win. I think you'll have to use the opening line for this logic to work. They started at +2 or so meaning they'd be -4 on their home field. Meaning the Saints are 3-points better than the Packers on a neutral field, which is probably close. Green Bay shouldn't have been -2.5; the betting public drove them up to an incorrect price.MarshallPlan said:Let me see if I understand this. GB is -2' at AZ. That's -8' on their home field in GB.
Now the Saints are -7 on their home field off a bye. The oddsmakers are telling us they think GB should be favored over the Saints by 1' pts on a neutral field. I don't know, but a 14-2 team on a neutral field should not be underdogs to a 10-6 WC team.
Either the Saints line this week needs to be higher or the Pack should not have been -2' at AZ this week. The answer is probably somewhere in between, but either way something is off.
And for the 2nd week in a row, i get the MMA bets to bail out the NFL picks. hoping for the same luck tomorrow. I was following along with play-by-play and i was a little worried after the first 2.Sebowski said:I bet big on Henderson. Might even put more on him. Varner will not be able to hang with Henderson for 5 rounds after taking that much time off for injuries.modogg said:i have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential. as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:John Bender said:UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
Nice job mo...Get your butt in here tomorrow before the UFC Fight Night and let's see what we like as a consensus. I also need to make up for a horrible weekend on NFL props.And for the 2nd week in a row, i get the MMA bets to bail out the NFL picks. hoping for the same luck tomorrow. I was following along with play-by-play and i was a little worried after the first 2.Sebowski said:I bet big on Henderson. Might even put more on him. Varner will not be able to hang with Henderson for 5 rounds after taking that much time off for injuries.modogg said:i have to disagree with Leben, the guy has looked pretty awful his last few fights. Not taking Terry martin out was pretty bad. And the Dalloway-Silva match was more of a style loss for Silva. I have a small play on Silva, but this one can go either way, and it is hard to have confidence in Leben. i did make a small play on Diaz as well though (like .33 unit). Maynard is the real deal, but Diaz has a lot of potential. as for the WEC tonight, i have some of the following:John Bender said:UFC Fight Night Tomorrow Night...I'm looking at the following:
Chris Leben -170 is a great number vs. Jay Silva
Silva lost to CB Dolloway who I think is horrible. Leben should make short work of him. -170 is crazy IMO.
Gray Maynard is good, but -275 vs. Diaz is way too high. He can't finish an opponent, and Diaz will pressure him big time. Putting a small play on Diaz here at the +235
Maybe parlay Diaz and Leben as well. Probably throw in Aaron Simpson for good measure.
Assuncao +375 for .33 unit (Faber has had a long layoff, and Raphael is a talented fighter. i am probably trying to ride this ring rust train too long, but it worked with Forrest-Tito and Stout-J-Lau)
Ben Henderson +120 .75 unit
Mark Hominick -200 1 unit
Shalorus +225: 1 unit
may be a little too many plays, but we'll see.
we'll try, the lines are pretty good. right now i lean with Sadollah, Silva (sorry, but i don't trust Leben for anything and Silva took the CB fight on a week's notice), and one or 2 others. will look into some more thoughNice job mo...Get your butt in here tomorrow before the UFC Fight Night and let's see what we like as a consensus. I also need to make up for a horrible weekend on NFL props.