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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (6 Viewers)

Bruins with the 2-point conversion.
Seriously, what is up with them and the Sabres tonight?
No idea. I just hope this kick-starts a good stretch drive for the B's. So tired of win one, lose one. Win two, lose four. As long as Turco doesn't skate anywhere near Boston's net, they always have a chance.
I would love for him to get in there one or 2 more times. Might even bring you out of retirement for a bit, because that over would seem to be a solid play
 
Kind of like NJ under 27.5 tonight
:hifive: pretty crappy effort by the Devils in the 3rd. I was contemplating what i wanted more, the Rangers to come down in the standings, or for me to get a cool $50 for the under shots prop. Would have liked both, but I will definitely take this one. thanks
 
4 MLB bets today2 on Kurts site2 on another site0-2 with Kurt and 2-0 on the other site. It is amazing...this pretty much happens everyday. I simply take whichever site has the better line. Who ever pulled cash outta Evo...god bless ya.
Going to take a guess here and say because you're playing most of the favorites at kurts site(usually the best line) and most of the dogs elsewhere and dogs are killing it so far this preseason. I'm having the same situation.
 
Line opened at 6.5, peaked out at 7.5 about an hour ago, and is back down to 7 at a few places.

1U Each

Umass +7.5 -105

UMass ML +295

:boxing:

 
going to try and ride the Flyers un5.5 tonight again, and will also grab the Flyers -1.5 +180 in case the game gets out of hand. the Flyers are -155 which i think is a safe bet too, but some strange stuff in hockey these days and the -1.5 +180 which i think is safer than usual if Bryz keeps playing like he has.

Also going to try Flyers un31.5 shots. They have went under that for a majority of their games lately, with one of the exceptions being when they played Florida last time. So i'm not positive on it, but am leaning that way

 
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Wisconsin +4.

KenPom says they win outright by 1, and I don't think that accounts for Fat Melo being out. I'm not a fan of playing sides, but 'tis the season.
Beware kenpom's Wisconsin problem
I've thought about this quite a bit, and I've always realized that KP rankings are subjective and based on a certain set of criteria that aren't perfect, but are probably more accurate than the objective polls or RPI or something. It's probably the best we have. With teams that are generally good, I think a slow pace works against them, and a fast pace works well for them (eg UNC). Obviously, the more possessions played between a good team and a bad team, the lower probability of an upset. With Wisky, the scores are always going to be fairly close. They're going to "hammer" teams 60-48, not 80-64.

So with KP and the betting lines being fairly close to each other during the regular season, we can assume that their methodology of setting lines is similar, if not just taking KP's work and using it as their own.

So what is KP missing here? It doesn't account for players who are out, but that works in Wisky's favor, not Cuse's. It doesn't take into account for a team making real progress and getting better (or worse) during the season, where I don't see any real advantage for either team. My hypothesis is the public underrates Wisconsin and the books are taking that into account. But I'm a n00b, so I could be completely off.

 
When Wisconsin played at UNC there was a huge reverse line movement. Wisconsin ended up covering losing only 60-57.

I haven't seen the line move with the Syracuse game. It seems a lot of people are down on Cuse because of Melo but like lumpy said - they are a very deep team.

KP is cool, but that is my biggest dislike of his site is that r needs to have more offensive and defensive breakouts when teams are in zone, man, press, fast break points etc - but I understand that's impossible to do with 345 teams.

 
Been white hot of late - we are due for a bad night.

1 unit

Winn under 29.5 -125

Pitt over 34.5 -130

Nash over 27.5

2 unit

Avs over 31.5

Sj under 35.5

And throw in a Pitt puckline +120 for the he'll of it

 
UMass up to 7.5 :shock:
Yesterday you took Mid Tenn (good call)SBR had them at +5 to +4 52%Pregame +6 to +4 44%Today UMass is:SBR +6.5 to +8 61%Pregame +6.5 to +8 74%Doesn't concern you at all?
It looks like you are looking at the "consensus" tab at sportsbook review and pregame dot com.It surprises me because I would have thought that those numbers would suggest that the line moved the wrong way. :confused: To be honest with you I have not used these numbers before. What do these numbers say to you and why are you concerned? :popcorn:
 
UMass up to 7.5 :shock:
Yesterday you took Mid Tenn (good call)SBR had them at +5 to +4 52%Pregame +6 to +4 44%Today UMass is:SBR +6.5 to +8 61%Pregame +6.5 to +8 74%Doesn't concern you at all?
It looks like you are looking at the "consensus" tab at sportsbook review and pregame dot com.It surprises me because I would have thought that those numbers would suggest that the line moved the wrong way. :confused: To be honest with you I have not used these numbers before. What do these numbers say to you and why are you concerned? :popcorn:
Yeah, those 2 sites. Your second paragraph is correct - those percentages suggest the line IS moving the wrong direction and that there Is some large influences siding with Drexel.
 
Instead of doing work today, I finished a crude NHL model to look at puck lines only. I'm not playing these but

Phi +180

Pit +120

the expected value is positive by playing both.

I will miss college basketball :(

 
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Instead of doing work today, I finished a crude NHL model to look at puck lines only. I'm not playing these but Phi +180Pit +120the expected value is positive by playing both.I will miss college basketball :(
Both losing. Puck lines suck ### :banned:
Yeah, I'm on the Flyers one, and the ML with them too. I will be salty if they end up losing the game. I would love a nice 3-1 to win for the guys, with a total of 29 shots...ETA: the 0-4 on the power play was painful. Hopefully they got a good ripping into in between periods, and they come out and put a little more pressure on Clemmenson, who they really should be scoring againstETA2: ugh, horrendous bounce on the Florida PP to give them a 2-0 lead. Going to make me grumpy boys..
 
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Wisconsin +4.

KenPom says they win outright by 1, and I don't think that accounts for Fat Melo being out. I'm not a fan of playing sides, but 'tis the season.
Beware kenpom's Wisconsin problem
I've thought about this quite a bit, and I've always realized that KP rankings are subjective and based on a certain set of criteria that aren't perfect, but are probably more accurate than the objective polls or RPI or something. It's probably the best we have. With teams that are generally good, I think a slow pace works against them, and a fast pace works well for them (eg UNC). Obviously, the more possessions played between a good team and a bad team, the lower probability of an upset. With Wisky, the scores are always going to be fairly close. They're going to "hammer" teams 60-48, not 80-64.

So with KP and the betting lines being fairly close to each other during the regular season, we can assume that their methodology of setting lines is similar, if not just taking KP's work and using it as their own.

So what is KP missing here? It doesn't account for players who are out, but that works in Wisky's favor, not Cuse's. It doesn't take into account for a team making real progress and getting better (or worse) during the season, where I don't see any real advantage for either team. My hypothesis is the public underrates Wisconsin and the books are taking that into account. But I'm a n00b, so I could be completely off.
The Sagarin ratings have Syracuse -1, which isn't far off at all from KP's Wisconsin -1. My model makes it Cuse -1. Teamrankings.com makes it Cuse -2. This game is a perfect storm, imo. Syracuse massively overrated, Wisconsin massively underrated. Wisconsin improved a ####load during the year and people still remember their early season woes. Cuse plateaued mid-season, especially since Melo isn't there now, and people still remember them being undefeated for so long. And yes, they're deep, but he's by far their most important defender. And Bo Ryan >>>> JB.

Every square I know is all over Syracuse, calling the line a gift, ridiculous, etc. That makes me love Wisconsin all that much more.

I definitely think that it closes lower than 4. If you like Wisconsin, I'd get it now. If you like Cuse, I'd wait.

I can't wait for this one.

 
I just bet Draymond Green mvp +1000 for the tourney (bovada). Mich St is +684 at Pinny, if they win it, no chance does Green NOT win this award.

I actually don't think Mich St will win it but figured I had to bet it.

 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'tjnc09 said:
Chainsaw FTW
Top five call in 2012 IMO. I only did the side, but I'll take it. :hifive:
Reminiscent of the Giants/Cowboys SNF call last fall to parlay the Giants +points and the over. Looked totally doomed, until the GMen onslaught came in late to cash. Thought this bet was f'ed when UMass was down by 17 at one point. Then, BOOM.Thanks Chainsaw.
 
'Doctor Detroit said:
'tjnc09 said:
Chainsaw FTW
Top five call in 2012 IMO. I only did the side, but I'll take it. :hifive:
Reminiscent of the Giants/Cowboys SNF call last fall to parlay the Giants +points and the over. Looked totally doomed, until the GMen onslaught came in late to cash. Thought this bet was f'ed when UMass was down by 17 at one point. Then, BOOM.Thanks Chainsaw.
Yup, Nice to be on the right side of one of these. I screwed it up a little by taking the 1st half too, but the ML cashing helped out a bunch, especially with me putting my Flyers bet in twice :bag:
 
Mo - how do you put bets in twice so often? You using dial-up down there in Philly?
Ugh, Comcast cable is just brutal. You literally share your connection with other people within your hub. I'm in an apartment complex, it's fast off-peak and during peak evening hours, you'd think Napster and DIVX just came out yesterday and people are going nuts downloading. Can't get FIOS, it's not wired in my building. :wall: And Yes, I've put in incorrect wagers before. Mo, you are not alone. :bag:
 

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