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Glad the Raiders covered for some. Embarrassing night otherwise.
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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (16 Viewers)
- Thread starter John Bender
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Hey I made one good! Yay me!Have to celebrate. It's been a brutal 3 weeks so farAlso on this (think I have O42.5i like it.
John Bender
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I'm not sure how good Oklahoma is but I think ND is pretty bad
Sooners -3 for 2u
Sooners -3 for 2u
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Adding NIU -3 for 1u
I know NIU hasn't looked like their traditional powerhouse selves, but Purdue looks terrible this year
On that note wouldn't Purdue/Wake be a dream matchup for the Beef O'Brady's Bowl...conference tie ins be damned!
I know NIU hasn't looked like their traditional powerhouse selves, but Purdue looks terrible this year
On that note wouldn't Purdue/Wake be a dream matchup for the Beef O'Brady's Bowl...conference tie ins be damned!
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
SB has NE +1, Vegas seems to have them at -1 all the way around. 
NIU Kicker
Footballguy
I'm a big pats homer.SB has NE +1, Vegas seems to have them at -1 all the way around.
Take Atlanta.
with Gronk in the lineup? Pats got this one.I'm a big pats homer.SB has NE +1, Vegas seems to have them at -1 all the way around.
Take Atlanta.
lumpy19
Footballguy
I like Atlanta, NE still surviving on their reputation.with Gronk in the lineup? Pats got this one.I'm a big pats homer.SB has NE +1, Vegas seems to have them at -1 all the way around.
Take Atlanta.
Atlanta just lost to Miami. Seems like the line will move towards NE once they announce that Gronk (and possibly Amendola?) are playing.
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Sb paid d. Richardson bet. Nice of them to wake up
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
The Pats are one of the worst 3-0 teams I've ever watched. ATL needs this game badly.
lumpy19
Footballguy
They lost to Miami in Miami, home field makes a big difference. The line will stay below 3 either way on this game.
you're right that Atlanta is very good at home, but with Roddy White banged up, I still like NE's chances with Gronk in the lineup. seems like a coinflip to me though.
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ChainsawU
Footballguy
I had all week to do a project on Access/Excel, and just officially uploaded and submitted all the files at 4:59 PM. It turns out it was due today at 5:00 PM. I had no idea. Also, I found out I don't have class on Thursday. So does anybody else like San Jose State that night? I saw them get crapped on by Minnesota's o-line and I also saw Utah State barely cover at USC. I'm thinking of taking the 10 points with San Jose State. Also I think the chick that sits next to me in communications class wants it. She looked me up in the student directory and emailed me yesterday. You know what that means.
NIU Kicker
Footballguy
got_nugs
Footballguy
Soliai and Wake are out for Miami this week from what I understand...these guys are Miami's best run stoppers and probably their best 2 defensive players(Grimes in that group, too). Line is still -6.5 for New Orleans. Miami playing well right now but i'm going to throw some on New Orleans now for MNF in the big easy before it gets to a TD.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Took the Saints in survivor pools. They should cover.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
optionmaven
Footballguy
Pirates -170 and -1.5 -110. I like them alot with Liriano posting good numbers against them overall.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Who has the earliest NFL team total lines? Pinnacle still does not have theirs up.
TIA
TIA
lumpy19
Footballguy
got_nugs
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Ditto.Dan Lambskin said:
My nuts are shriveling up just thinking about going against a 3-0 team though. I just think the Monday night stage in N.O. may be a little too big right now.
ChainsawU
Footballguy
it was o/u/push, sorry i was completing my registration on cougar life dot com and my q&a didn't save the 1st time thru
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Thinking about laying the wood on a straight bet of Broncos -10.5 this Sunday.
Think you got this for a survivor pool, I think this Eagles team gets annihilated in the elevation. Could rival the Week 1 hurt Peyton put on the Ravens from a Eagles defensive perspective, with the defense getting gassed/gashed even more.
Eagles TT U ~36 juicy as well.
ETA:
totally miscalculated the TT, should be ~24 based on the line & total.
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ChainsawU
Footballguy
Manning finished 32-for-37 on Monday. With that efficiency the Broncos should just snap the ball with :01 left on the play clock every time then the Eagles will never see the field. Peyton's heat map from Monday night
swirvenirvin
Footballguy
Dodgers -130
modogg
Footballguy
Got caught up watching Road Rules/Real World Challenge and forgot to take any bets
The Ref
Footballguy
Many rightly fawn over the accuracy of the betting market. It's the stuff that memes like "Vegas knows" are made of. But the “boys in the desert” exceeded even the most outsize expectations this week in college football, with the point spread favorite winning 55 of 57 games. Las Vegas was right picking the winner 55 times, and wrong only twice.
No matter how good Vegas is at picking winners, the betting public is still willing to lay the points. Professionals bet numbers; the public bets teams. And the typical bettor can’t help but back the better (or, at least, favored) team. Even with an average spread of -19, CFB favorites this week covered 63 percent of games. When favorites win, so do the bettors.
I must admit to being suspicious that some of the sportsbook bosses referenced their thesauruses in an effort to explain the pain of so many college football favorites covering this week — words like "dreadful," "gruesome," and "horrendous" popped up. Jay Kornegay from the LVH told me: “We lost every major decision — the sharps, public, and in-house players all won. Our biggest action was on Stanford–Arizona State. Stanford covering was like a punch to the ribs.”
The Wynn’s Johnny Avello told me on ESPN Radio in Las Vegas: “If Michigan, LSU, and Florida would have covered, it could have taken us the whole season to win back the loss.”
When it came to the weekend's NFL games, Vegas was a bit more upbeat; the action was robust with players pressing their CFB winnings. The three most lopsided bet games, according to the ticket count tool at Pregame.com, were the Vikings, Giants, and Packers. All three were losers for bettors. The sportsbooks reported unanimously that the Green Bay–Cincinnati game was their biggest win (with the Pack garnering 85 perecent of the game’s action at Bovada).
Sunday night’s cover by the Bears was the lone bright spot for the average bettor. Mike Perry from Sportsbook.ag called Chicago’s win a “bailout for bettors after getting crushed.” It’s telling to note that bettors bet more Sunday after winning the day before, and then bet even more Sunday night as a response to losing earlier in the day.
Indy’s upset of San Francisco was the first double-digit NFL underdog to win a game in more than a calendar year. Kornegay mentioned a significant amount of sharp action on the Colts money line — which paid upward of +400. William Hill reported the most sharp action on San Diego, Baltimore, and St. Louis, with LVH adding Tampa Bay and the Giants to the list — making Wiseguys 1-3-1 ATS on the day (after going 0-3 last week).
And then came Monday Night Football. The game opened with Denver favored by more than two touchdowns, and that spread was bet upward throughout the week. When Oakland scored late to cut the lead to 16, it was the worst possible outcome for the sportsbooks. The 16-point final margin meant the bettors “middled” the bookies — cashing on both the favorite and the underdog. Every longtime grinder can’t help but smile when that happens.
Looking ahead, New England travels to Atlanta next week, and the Broncos-Eagles total of 58 is the second-highest NFL over/under since 2004. BetOnline.ag’s Dave Mason speculates that “with last weekend’s results fresh in their minds, bettors will fire on hot teams like the Colts and Seahawks as they travel to teams coming off losses.” I’ll be back next week to tell you the truth about what happened over the weekend in Las Vegas.
No matter how good Vegas is at picking winners, the betting public is still willing to lay the points. Professionals bet numbers; the public bets teams. And the typical bettor can’t help but back the better (or, at least, favored) team. Even with an average spread of -19, CFB favorites this week covered 63 percent of games. When favorites win, so do the bettors.
I must admit to being suspicious that some of the sportsbook bosses referenced their thesauruses in an effort to explain the pain of so many college football favorites covering this week — words like "dreadful," "gruesome," and "horrendous" popped up. Jay Kornegay from the LVH told me: “We lost every major decision — the sharps, public, and in-house players all won. Our biggest action was on Stanford–Arizona State. Stanford covering was like a punch to the ribs.”
The Wynn’s Johnny Avello told me on ESPN Radio in Las Vegas: “If Michigan, LSU, and Florida would have covered, it could have taken us the whole season to win back the loss.”
When it came to the weekend's NFL games, Vegas was a bit more upbeat; the action was robust with players pressing their CFB winnings. The three most lopsided bet games, according to the ticket count tool at Pregame.com, were the Vikings, Giants, and Packers. All three were losers for bettors. The sportsbooks reported unanimously that the Green Bay–Cincinnati game was their biggest win (with the Pack garnering 85 perecent of the game’s action at Bovada).
Sunday night’s cover by the Bears was the lone bright spot for the average bettor. Mike Perry from Sportsbook.ag called Chicago’s win a “bailout for bettors after getting crushed.” It’s telling to note that bettors bet more Sunday after winning the day before, and then bet even more Sunday night as a response to losing earlier in the day.
Indy’s upset of San Francisco was the first double-digit NFL underdog to win a game in more than a calendar year. Kornegay mentioned a significant amount of sharp action on the Colts money line — which paid upward of +400. William Hill reported the most sharp action on San Diego, Baltimore, and St. Louis, with LVH adding Tampa Bay and the Giants to the list — making Wiseguys 1-3-1 ATS on the day (after going 0-3 last week).
And then came Monday Night Football. The game opened with Denver favored by more than two touchdowns, and that spread was bet upward throughout the week. When Oakland scored late to cut the lead to 16, it was the worst possible outcome for the sportsbooks. The 16-point final margin meant the bettors “middled” the bookies — cashing on both the favorite and the underdog. Every longtime grinder can’t help but smile when that happens.
Looking ahead, New England travels to Atlanta next week, and the Broncos-Eagles total of 58 is the second-highest NFL over/under since 2004. BetOnline.ag’s Dave Mason speculates that “with last weekend’s results fresh in their minds, bettors will fire on hot teams like the Colts and Seahawks as they travel to teams coming off losses.” I’ll be back next week to tell you the truth about what happened over the weekend in Las Vegas.
modogg
Footballguy
Nice. Looks like i made it 4 days without putting a college football bet in after swearing it off for the 2nd time so far this season.
modogg
Footballguy
derek245583
Footballguy
Wife just had the baby
Hospital doesnt have NFL Network. You figure for the bill, they would provide better channels.
Hospital doesnt have NFL Network. You figure for the bill, they would provide better channels.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
'grats bud!
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Yeah congrats
Just tell her you want to give her some time alone to bond with the baby
Just tell her you want to give her some time alone to bond with the baby
