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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (2 Viewers)

RB Graded Butcher a loss but I dont see it on the Bellator webiste.
Espn app shows loss by unanimous decision
it was bad. I had him losing 29-28. It was like he didn't even train for the fight, gassed out in the 2nd round and looked horrible. I'll definitely take Ward when that fight comes up, though Ward is no world beater either. the bet on Butcher was more of a fade of Parlo, and i still think the guy sucks, did nothing to make me think differently.
Can you watch these anywhere?

Hows Momma Leone doing?
yup, they are on Spike, channel 241 on DirecTV. Leonne doing alright. close 1st round but probably lost it. 2nd has been competitive and they have had a lot of action on the ground. Hard to figure what the judges may call, but the judges have been real good so far on this card. Funny how UFC has by far the better fighters and most of the time fights, but bellator judging usually seems to be more on point. it's probably because they avoid Nevada and other states with over-zealous commissions

 
I was thinking about how big a difference statistically it made when I took Dallas 7.5 instead of 8. I went back to 2009 and made a table and chart of the SU margin of victory of every NFL game since 2009 that ended with a margin of victory between 0 and 28 points. I feel better about not getting the 8, and don't care about 9 anymore. You may have to zoom-in. link

 
nope on Leone 1-2. Our ace in the hole is next!
yeah, i was a little over excited making the picks, and probably should have just skipped taking Butcher. surprised Leonne was as flat as he looked

with Lavar, he only needs to land one shot. problem is if he gets taken down he isn't getting back up until the end of the round. Just one shot Lavar, you can find your shot here bud

 
SHARPS REPORT, NFL Week 5

KANSAS CITY AT TENNESSEE:
On opener of Kansas City -2.5 was bet up to -3. We’re hearing that early action was based on the fact that Tennessee will be without Jake Locker for awhile…and that initial money wanted in below the key number. Moving forward, this isn’t a game the sharps are expected to be aggressive with because Tennessee has played good defense all season, while Kansas City’s offense has been up and down.

BALTIMORE AT MIAMI:
An opener of Miami -3 has stayed solid, as many move off the critical number would likely be pounded right back to it because of the likelihood that a close game between competitive teams would land right on that number. Were the public to fall in love with one side or the other, sharps would fade a line move caused by public action.

JACKSONVILLE AT ST. LOUIS:
St. Louis opened at -10.5, and was bet up past -11 rather than toward the key number of 10. That obviously represents support for the Rams. But, sharps have been supporting the Rams all season only to watch the team continually go out and play poorly. We’re not hearing of many sharps who are looking to back the Jags even if the line reaches +12 or higher. Not a high priority game for sharps at the moment.

NEW ENGLAND AT CINCINNATI:
On opener of pick-em was bet toward the home team. Though underdog money does come in on New England at +1.5 or higher. Oddsmakers will be watching this one carefully because New England would be a popular teaser choice if they end up seeing +1.5, +2, or +2.5 on game day. The Patriots won outright at this price in Atlanta last week, covering the game and all teasers.

SEATTLE AT INDIANAPOLIS:
Sharps loaded up very heavily against Seattle last week in Houston, only to see the Seahawks steal the game in overtime thanks to an interception return for a TD late in regulation. They want to fade the Seahawks again in a second straight road game vs. a playoff contender. But, oddsmakers are hesitant to drop Indianapolis +3 down to +2.5 because it would invite teaser play on a live home underdog. Sportsbooks will have to decide if they want to root for Seattle -3, or Seattle -8.5.

DETROIT AT GREEN BAY:
Green Bay opened at -6.5 and was bet immediately up to the key number of -7. We’re hearing some of that is support for the Packers…some of that is position-taking for middles just in case the public comes in on Green Bay over the weekend…and some of that is due to Green Bay having a bye last week for extra preparation time. So…some of the money is “bye” related rather than pure support of the Packers. Were the line to climb above a touchdown, sharps would take Detroit at +7.5 or +8, while also playing Green Bay in teasers at -1.5 and -2.

NEW ORLEANS AT CHICAGO:
Interesting game. We saw an opener of pick-em. Different stores have tested either side at -1, only to see betting action drive the line back to pick-em. Remember that the public tends to love betting Chicago in their best years. But, they also love betting the Saints in their best years! We’re hearing that sharps are monitoring weather reports very closely…and that some heavy action may be brewing based on game day conditions.

PHILADELPHIA AT NY GIANTS:
The NY Giants opened at -1, and were bet up to -2 or -2.5 in most locales. Sharps have been way out of synch with both teams. We’re hearing that some of that move was just sharps trying to bet the game into the teaser window. Were the public to take the number to Philadelphia +3, sharps would come in on the underdog with the better won-lost record.

CAROLINA AT ARIZONA:
Carolina opened at -2, in a game that hasn’t generated much interest yet. It’s already in the teaser window, so Arizona +8 will be included in two-teamers. Sharps generally like fading Carolina games that are expected to be close because their coach has such a poor record in those kinds of affairs. That line of thinking cost them a fortune in NY Giants/Carolina because it turned out not to be a close game. Sources tell us Arizona would have been bet aggressively if they hadn’t played so poorly last week at Tampa Bay.

SAN DIEGO AT OAKLAND:
San Diego opened at -5, a sign of respect after the Chargers played so well against Dallas last week. Terrelle Pryor is set to return to quarterback the Raiders. Bets so far have weighted toward the Raiders. This spread range is a no-man’s land for key numbers and teasers, so it may not be heavily bet by sharps. But, it’s this kind of game that has surprisingly see big game day moves…so you just never know.

DENVER AT DALLAS:
It’s been well publicized that this line jumped way up from an opener of -5.5. Denver is now laying more than a touchdown. That’s just what sportsbooks wanted, the Broncos in the teaser window! If the line stays around -7.5 or -8, everyone will have them in teasers. We’re hearing that many sharps are looking to bet the live home dog heavily once a game day line has settled in, particularly if it’s much more than a touchdown.

HOUSTON AT SAN FRANCISCO:
Our first “tug-of-war” game! Normally that’s a theme for over half the card. A combination of bye weeks for four teams and a lack of games near the three has reduced that phenomenon. We’re generally seeing bets for San Francisco -6.5 and Houston +7. That’s likely to continue up to kickoff based on what we’re hearing. Houston may be one of the teams sharps are going to keep being stubborn about.

NY JETS AT ATLANTA (Monday Night):
Atlanta opened at -7.5, and has been bet all the way up to -9.5 and -10. How could that happen after the Falcons looked so shaky last Sunday Night? We’re hearing that sharps soured on Geno Smith as a road quarterback after he cost them a fortune in Tennessee last week…and that oddsmakers were quick to yank the game through the teaser window because they didn’t want the whole world on Atlanta in a spot where teaser players could use them to finish off this week AND to start off next week. Sharps would come in on the Jets at +11, and possibly even at +10.5 or +10 on game day. They’re standing pat now so the public has time to bet the TV favorite like they normally do.

 
nope on Leone 1-2. Our ace in the hole is next!
yeah, i was a little over excited making the picks, and probably should have just skipped taking Butcher. surprised Leonne was as flat as he looked

with Lavar, he only needs to land one shot. problem is if he gets taken down he isn't getting back up until the end of the round. Just one shot Lavar, you can find your shot here bud
Just one shot.

 
nope on Leone 1-2. Our ace in the hole is next!
yeah, i was a little over excited making the picks, and probably should have just skipped taking Butcher. surprised Leonne was as flat as he looked

with Lavar, he only needs to land one shot. problem is if he gets taken down he isn't getting back up until the end of the round. Just one shot Lavar, you can find your shot here bud
Just one shot.
well, ####. I totally didn't see that coming, i guess Lavar didn't either. that guy has been in their with some of the biggest hitters, and has been fine. Just didn't see that even as a possibility. Funny seeing the crowd boo him though

 
real tempted to chase here and take Godbeer +400......

ETA: f it, taking Godbeer for small unit. Kongo retired from MMA when he was cut by the UFC, and was only signed a few months ago. Probably swayed here by that Johnson fight, but there is something to the fact that guys coming from the UFC to Bellator just are not as motivated and come to get a check. don't think Kongo is trying to do that, but he isn't the fighter he was a few years ago

 
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It was a good reminder of what that sport is all about and also a pretty good answer to the earlier question regarding big underdog plays.

Awesome shot.

 
SHARPS REPORT, NFL Week 5

KANSAS CITY AT TENNESSEE:

On opener of Kansas City -2.5 was bet up to -3. We’re hearing that early action was based on the fact that Tennessee will be without Jake Locker for awhile…and that initial money wanted in below the key number. Moving forward, this isn’t a game the sharps are expected to be aggressive with because Tennessee has played good defense all season, while Kansas City’s offense has been up and down.

BALTIMORE AT MIAMI:

An opener of Miami -3 has stayed solid, as many move off the critical number would likely be pounded right back to it because of the likelihood that a close game between competitive teams would land right on that number. Were the public to fall in love with one side or the other, sharps would fade a line move caused by public action.

JACKSONVILLE AT ST. LOUIS:

St. Louis opened at -10.5, and was bet up past -11 rather than toward the key number of 10. That obviously represents support for the Rams. But, sharps have been supporting the Rams all season only to watch the team continually go out and play poorly. We’re not hearing of many sharps who are looking to back the Jags even if the line reaches +12 or higher. Not a high priority game for sharps at the moment.

NEW ENGLAND AT CINCINNATI:

On opener of pick-em was bet toward the home team. Though underdog money does come in on New England at +1.5 or higher. Oddsmakers will be watching this one carefully because New England would be a popular teaser choice if they end up seeing +1.5, +2, or +2.5 on game day. The Patriots won outright at this price in Atlanta last week, covering the game and all teasers.

SEATTLE AT INDIANAPOLIS:

Sharps loaded up very heavily against Seattle last week in Houston, only to see the Seahawks steal the game in overtime thanks to an interception return for a TD late in regulation. They want to fade the Seahawks again in a second straight road game vs. a playoff contender. But, oddsmakers are hesitant to drop Indianapolis +3 down to +2.5 because it would invite teaser play on a live home underdog. Sportsbooks will have to decide if they want to root for Seattle -3, or Seattle -8.5.

DETROIT AT GREEN BAY:

Green Bay opened at -6.5 and was bet immediately up to the key number of -7. We’re hearing some of that is support for the Packers…some of that is position-taking for middles just in case the public comes in on Green Bay over the weekend…and some of that is due to Green Bay having a bye last week for extra preparation time. So…some of the money is “bye” related rather than pure support of the Packers. Were the line to climb above a touchdown, sharps would take Detroit at +7.5 or +8, while also playing Green Bay in teasers at -1.5 and -2.

NEW ORLEANS AT CHICAGO:

Interesting game. We saw an opener of pick-em. Different stores have tested either side at -1, only to see betting action drive the line back to pick-em. Remember that the public tends to love betting Chicago in their best years. But, they also love betting the Saints in their best years! We’re hearing that sharps are monitoring weather reports very closely…and that some heavy action may be brewing based on game day conditions.

PHILADELPHIA AT NY GIANTS:

The NY Giants opened at -1, and were bet up to -2 or -2.5 in most locales. Sharps have been way out of synch with both teams. We’re hearing that some of that move was just sharps trying to bet the game into the teaser window. Were the public to take the number to Philadelphia +3, sharps would come in on the underdog with the better won-lost record.

CAROLINA AT ARIZONA:

Carolina opened at -2, in a game that hasn’t generated much interest yet. It’s already in the teaser window, so Arizona +8 will be included in two-teamers. Sharps generally like fading Carolina games that are expected to be close because their coach has such a poor record in those kinds of affairs. That line of thinking cost them a fortune in NY Giants/Carolina because it turned out not to be a close game. Sources tell us Arizona would have been bet aggressively if they hadn’t played so poorly last week at Tampa Bay.

SAN DIEGO AT OAKLAND:

San Diego opened at -5, a sign of respect after the Chargers played so well against Dallas last week. Terrelle Pryor is set to return to quarterback the Raiders. Bets so far have weighted toward the Raiders. This spread range is a no-man’s land for key numbers and teasers, so it may not be heavily bet by sharps. But, it’s this kind of game that has surprisingly see big game day moves…so you just never know.

DENVER AT DALLAS:

It’s been well publicized that this line jumped way up from an opener of -5.5. Denver is now laying more than a touchdown. That’s just what sportsbooks wanted, the Broncos in the teaser window! If the line stays around -7.5 or -8, everyone will have them in teasers. We’re hearing that many sharps are looking to bet the live home dog heavily once a game day line has settled in, particularly if it’s much more than a touchdown.

HOUSTON AT SAN FRANCISCO:

Our first “tug-of-war” game! Normally that’s a theme for over half the card. A combination of bye weeks for four teams and a lack of games near the three has reduced that phenomenon. We’re generally seeing bets for San Francisco -6.5 and Houston +7. That’s likely to continue up to kickoff based on what we’re hearing. Houston may be one of the teams sharps are going to keep being stubborn about.

NY JETS AT ATLANTA (Monday Night):

Atlanta opened at -7.5, and has been bet all the way up to -9.5 and -10. How could that happen after the Falcons looked so shaky last Sunday Night? We’re hearing that sharps soured on Geno Smith as a road quarterback after he cost them a fortune in Tennessee last week…and that oddsmakers were quick to yank the game through the teaser window because they didn’t want the whole world on Atlanta in a spot where teaser players could use them to finish off this week AND to start off next week. Sharps would come in on the Jets at +11, and possibly even at +10.5 or +10 on game day. They’re standing pat now so the public has time to bet the TV favorite like they normally do.
:excited:

 
It was a good reminder of what that sport is all about and also a pretty good answer to the earlier question regarding big underdog plays.

Awesome shot.
this one was just way out there though. We've seen Lavar go toe to toe with Pat Barry and other high level strikers, yet he gets Ko'd by 1 shot from a ju jitsu guy? Looks like it was one of those things where Lavar just got old real fast. I think they'll put Lavar in there a few more times because it guarantees an exciting fight (unless he has a fight like the Schaub one where a guy holds him on the ground for 3 rounds) if they match him up right.

 
I was thinking about how big a difference statistically it made when I took Dallas 7.5 instead of 8. I went back to 2009 and made a table and chart of the SU margin of victory of every NFL game since 2009 that ended with a margin of victory between 0 and 28 points. I feel better about not getting the 8, and don't care about 9 anymore. You may have to zoom-in. link
whoa. interesting. thanks for posting.

 
mo, how come a lot of the guys you always like are pretty large dogs? I'm not complaining, mind you.... just curious. Do the oddsmakers just suck at setting MMA lines?
:goodposting:
I watched Mo back a fighter at -2000 to cap off the night once, who ended up eventually winning, but at one point during the fight had gotten so compromised in an armbar that Rogan was shouting, "He is breaking his arm!! He is breaking his arm!!" It was a close one. One time Mo also talked me in to going big on the last fight of the night instead of going to bed when Silva knocked out Brian Stann and paid out +270.
Yeah that Jon Jones fight had me pooping myself when he was caught in that sub. I had Jones when he fought Sonnen too when he was like -800 or something, and he dominated, but after the fight they showed his broken fight and everyone said they would have stopped that fight if the ref would have seen it. Those aren't as fun.

But that Silva-Stann card was awesome, i think i went like 10-0 or 11-0 on that one. I was picking those fights off like ducks in a barrel. Hope we can get one of those coming again soon.

 
Amazing how much this Nevada QB reminds me of Philip Rivers. Same #17 , same knee brace, he walks the same way, he takes the shotgun snap the same way, same noodle arm with the sidearm delivery. Even the school nicknames.... "Wolfpack" vs. "Wolf Pack".

 
Non-sports update: BBC America showing 28 Days Later with commercials starting now (11:30 PM EST) on DirecTV 264, or your BBC America channel.

Not sure if they edit or not, but this is one of my favorite movies of all time, being into apocalyptic movies.

Heads up if you're into it as well.

ETA: It's edited. Still IN.

 
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Bovada has a live java thing where you can bet on what the next play will be.

I just hit SD State rush for $1 at -155 and on the next play SD State complete pass for $1 at +265

:addicting:

 
So I have an interest in how many rushing yards Fajardo has.....

CBS has him at 58 right now. I want to double check and Yahoo has him at 43. So now I'm confused so I go to ESPN...... -4 yards

 
Bovada has a live java thing where you can bet on what the next play will be.

I just hit SD State rush for $1 at -155 and on the next play SD State complete pass for $1 at +265

:addicting:
I am trying to forget it exists. Because, it is that addicting.

At least sides/totals/props you've got a few hours of entertainment, generally speaking.

Bovada live gaming is basically the roulette of sports gambling. So good, but will bleed you dry unless you hit at a good rate.

I remember dropping an unhealthy amount of coin on individual at bats in baseball. It's a no-no zone for me, anyone if you're impulsive.

 
So I have an interest in how many rushing yards Fajardo has.....

CBS has him at 58 right now. I want to double check and Yahoo has him at 43. So now I'm confused so I go to ESPN...... -4 yards
I can't see him running too much more tonight. How many yards do you need?

 
Bovada has a live java thing where you can bet on what the next play will be.

I just hit SD State rush for $1 at -155 and on the next play SD State complete pass for $1 at +265

:addicting:
I am trying to forget it exists. Because, it is that addicting.

At least sides/totals/props you've got a few hours of entertainment, generally speaking.

Bovada live gaming is basically the roulette of sports gambling. So good, but will bleed you dry unless you hit at a good rate.

I remember dropping an unhealthy amount of coin on individual at bats in baseball. It's a no-no zone for me, anyone if you're impulsive.
I should be able to kill them on SNF and MNF though.

:oldunsure:

 
Never feel like more of a degenerate than watching HRTV at home :excited:
If you think that's bad I've steamed twin spires from an iPhone while my kid was riding a pony at a kids birthday
visited my book, who had just gotten busted a few days earlier, while my wife was in the labor room
Amazing
to be fair, she wasn't pushing yet.

Water had broken and we were at the hospital. She was probably around 3-4cm.

She wanted a magazine to read and I knew that there was a book store right next to where his legit job was, so I ran over there and stopped in to see what had happened since he wasn't too willing to talk about it on the phone.

 
Bovada has a live java thing where you can bet on what the next play will be.

I just hit SD State rush for $1 at -155 and on the next play SD State complete pass for $1 at +265

:addicting:
I am trying to forget it exists. Because, it is that addicting.

At least sides/totals/props you've got a few hours of entertainment, generally speaking.

Bovada live gaming is basically the roulette of sports gambling. So good, but will bleed you dry unless you hit at a good rate.

I remember dropping an unhealthy amount of coin on individual at bats in baseball. It's a no-no zone for me, anyone if you're impulsive.
Buddy of mine this summer had a PPH with the same setup...min wager $100.

I mean, you could run up the federal deficit on credit in the span of an afternoon baseball game with that kind of setup.

 
So I have an interest in how many rushing yards Fajardo has.....

CBS has him at 58 right now. I want to double check and Yahoo has him at 43. So now I'm confused so I go to ESPN...... -4 yards
I can't see him running too much more tonight. How many yards do you need?
I need 67, some others I think it's 64. CBS has him with 68 right now and I tend to believe it as they have been in step with the broadcast all night.

Just need him not to get sacked.

 
Never feel like more of a degenerate than watching HRTV at home :excited:
If you think that's bad I've steamed twin spires from an iPhone while my kid was riding a pony at a kids birthday
visited my book, who had just gotten busted a few days earlier, while my wife was in the labor room
Amazing
to be fair, she wasn't pushing yet.

Water had broken and we were at the hospital. She was probably around 3-4cm.

She wanted a magazine to read and I knew that there was a book store right next to where his legit job was, so I ran over there and stopped in to see what had happened since he wasn't too willing to talk about it on the phone.
My degen contribution. Fall of '06, first getaway weekend with my last live-in girlfriend. We're riding bikes in the mountains of New Hampshire (gunshot -- her idea, obviously) while a full slate of CFB is going on. Should have been a great weekend. Gorgeous foliage everywhere, perfect, crisp weekend. Like postcard-perfect. But I kept making excuses to check scores on my phone. Ran into the woods.... thought I saw an injured squirrel. Frequent bathroom stops .... must have been that chowder last night. She even caught me checking the phone as we were biking up a hill.

Listening to the Gators game on Sirius all the way home was the last straw. That's when she saw the real me.

 
We should all probably save our pennies and just hammer the Saints & Broncos team total OVER whenever they are home.

Home or road might not even matter for Denver, actually.

 
Last thought on the live play-by-play betting.

You could Martingale the CHIT out of "Next play -- pass complete"... especially with Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Manning.

It's almost always at plus money too.

 
On Tuesday the Jaguars traded away Eugene Monroe, their starting LT and Gabbert’s blindside guy for the last three years. Rookie (#2 overall pick) Luke Joeckel will start in his place after spending the first six months of his pro career on the right side; however, Joeckel had been a LT throughout high school and college. Joeckel will face DE Robert Quinn, who has five sacks and six hits along with 10 quarterback hurries and three forced fumbles through four games. Austin Pasztor, who was signed by Minnesota as an undrafted free agent last year, is the likely starter at right tackle.

 
Navy Over 54 1 unit

Sparty Under 38 1 Unit

Sparty Under 37.5 1 unit

IOWA -1.5 2 Units

ECU -6.5 -130 1 unit

Miami -6.5 2 units

Whoever is playing Wake Forest -8.5 1 unit

NIU -8 1 unit

NIU Over 64 1 unit (yes I should know better)

Oregon 1H -14 1.5 unit

 
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todays plays

NC ST - 9 2u

Iowa Pk 2u

NIU -7 2u

Miami -5.5 2u

Louisville -32 2u

1H Ducks -25.5 2u

also have an NIU/Miami Parlay to win 2u and NIU/Miami/Clemson/NC State to win 4u

 
I'm literally stuck inside all day potty training my kids. Willing to gamble on anything and everything

 
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pity training? How hard is it to teach a kid to say 'awwww, dad. Sorry Totally Awesome didn't show.'?

 
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