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FFA Wagering Thread: THERE HE IS!@! (9 Viewers)

Since I've been researching Hawaii this week Standhardinger keeps coming up and I knew he sounded familiar so I looked him up and it turns out he played for Nebraska before transferring to Hawaii. After reading up, he actually wanted to transfer to LaSalle but after LaSalle accepted him he was arrested in Lincoln one night at 3:40am after police found him passed out in a car naked with an also passed out shirtless chick and LaSalle, being a christian school, told him no dice.

I'm definitely betting on Hawaii more.
hmm, believe me. You don't want to be a white guy like Standhardinger, naked at 3:40am near the LaSalle campus. I have to hope the kid was on campus grounds, or it could have got ugly quick.

 
That The Dare website is :moneybag: .

Fired up The Dark Knight Rises just to test it out - exceeding expectations.

Bye bye, movie channel subscriptions. I pay $34 to get HBO and Showtime a month, offset by my $33 credit first 12 months with DTV. Outside of the shows, it's a waste. This will make that decision much easier.
That reminds me - I need to call and cancel HBO. Only reason to have HBO anymore is for the Sunday night shows and right now if GoT or BE isn't showing its not worth the $15 or whatever.

 
That The Dare website is :moneybag: .

Fired up The Dark Knight Rises just to test it out - exceeding expectations.

Bye bye, movie channel subscriptions. I pay $34 to get HBO and Showtime a month, offset by my $33 credit first 12 months with DTV. Outside of the shows, it's a waste. This will make that decision much easier.
That reminds me - I need to call and cancel HBO. Only reason to have HBO anymore is for the Sunday night shows and right now if GoT or BE isn't showing its not worth the $15 or whatever.
Seriously, outside of the shows I never watch these channels. $34/month for HBO & SHO. Like ~40% of my bill for crap I don't even flip through unless there's 0 sports on.

I've seen the light, Ref.

 
That The Dare website is :moneybag: .

Fired up The Dark Knight Rises just to test it out - exceeding expectations.

Bye bye, movie channel subscriptions. I pay $34 to get HBO and Showtime a month, offset by my $33 credit first 12 months with DTV. Outside of the shows, it's a waste. This will make that decision much easier.
That reminds me - I need to call and cancel HBO. Only reason to have HBO anymore is for the Sunday night shows and right now if GoT or BE isn't showing its not worth the $15 or whatever.
Seriously, outside of the shows I never watch these channels. $34/month for HBO & SHO. Like ~40% of my bill for crap I don't even flip through unless there's 0 sports on.

I've seen the light, Ref.
I think Showtime is useless.

 
My bowl game breakdowns don't help me at all with the Hawaii Bowl tomorrow, I had Oregon State as a 2 point favorite and a total of 63. I also don't think balcony peeing Southwick being out means much, Hedrick is completely capable of running that offense. Both teams got housed by Washington, Oregon State won by 4 @ San Diego State and Boise lost by 4 @San Diego State. Five of the six Oregon State losses came to bowl teams, the sixth loss was to FCS power Eastern Washington who probably could beat most of the teams who have already played in bowl games.

Four of the last five years have been blowouts, underdog has also won four of the past five. Public :wub: Oregon State with great vigor yet the books are holding Boise at +3 -120. For the total Oregon State can't stop anyone good at all, and Boise tries to run 100 plays a game. I like Boise and the over a bit here, but since I'm trying to apply more restraint to this bowl season I actually might lay off here.
played Oregon State -3 for 1u

ETA: playing upon recommendation of predction machine, not to oppose you :boxing:

 
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Does anybody have a strong opinion on this?

2013 AP NFL REGULAR SEASON COACH OF THE YEAR - ODDS TO WIN (ALL BETS ACTION) -FEB 03, 2014 13:00 PM ET
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Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs
+140

Bill Belichick New England Patriots
+350

Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals
+300

Chip Kelly Philadelphia Eagles
+600

Chuck Pagano Indianapolis Colts
+2000

Jim Harbaugh San Francisco 49ers
+7500

John Fox Denver Broncos
+5000

Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks
+2500

Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers
+400

Sean Payton New Orleans Saints
+7500




 
Does anybody have a strong opinion on this?

2013 AP NFL REGULAR SEASON COACH OF THE YEAR - ODDS TO WIN (ALL BETS ACTION) -FEB 03, 2014 13:00 PM ET
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Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs
+140

Bill Belichick New England Patriots
+350

Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals
+300

Chip Kelly Philadelphia Eagles
+600

Chuck Pagano Indianapolis Colts
+2000

Jim Harbaugh San Francisco 49ers
+7500

John Fox Denver Broncos
+5000

Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks
+2500

Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers
+400

Sean Payton New Orleans Saints
+7500
Strong lean on Reid.

 
Does anybody have a strong opinion on this?

2013 AP NFL REGULAR SEASON COACH OF THE YEAR - ODDS TO WIN (ALL BETS ACTION) -FEB 03, 2014 13:00 PM ET
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Andy Reid Kansas City Chiefs
+140

Bill Belichick New England Patriots
+350

Bruce Arians Arizona Cardinals
+300

Chip Kelly Philadelphia Eagles
+600

Chuck Pagano Indianapolis Colts
+2000

Jim Harbaugh San Francisco 49ers
+7500

John Fox Denver Broncos
+5000

Pete Carroll Seattle Seahawks
+2500

Ron Rivera Carolina Panthers
+400

Sean Payton New Orleans Saints
+7500
Strong lean on Reid.
Thanks Loco. At first glance, he seems like the favorite and the media and oddsmakers seem to agree. Not sure if there is much value at +140 though. Sportsbook has pretty high limits on this, I can play this to win 2500.

 
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Rivera was my lean. No value in Reid and he didn't win his division. Cards winning with defense it seems but Arians has done a good job.

 
That The Dare website is :moneybag: .

Fired up The Dark Knight Rises just to test it out - exceeding expectations.

Bye bye, movie channel subscriptions. I pay $34 to get HBO and Showtime a month, offset by my $33 credit first 12 months with DTV. Outside of the shows, it's a waste. This will make that decision much easier.
That reminds me - I need to call and cancel HBO. Only reason to have HBO anymore is for the Sunday night shows and right now if GoT or BE isn't showing its not worth the $15 or whatever.
Seriously, outside of the shows I never watch these channels. $34/month for HBO & SHO. Like ~40% of my bill for crap I don't even flip through unless there's 0 sports on.

I've seen the light, Ref.
I think Showtime is useless.
Without Dexter and Nurse Jackie what else do they offer that's good now?

 
Gotta think its Reid or Rivera

Arians might have had a shot if Cards made playoffs
That is who I am looking at.
I wonder if most will just look at the record and say Reid took a 2-14 team and won 11-12 games with them(a +9/10 improvement) versus Rivera who took a 7-9 team and won 11-12 games(a +4/5 improvement) and just give it to Reid.
Quite possible scoob. There just aren't many (any?) quality wins for KC...the Philly win is about as good as it gets. Nevertheless, a +9/10 game improvement is solid. This is gambling though, and we're looking for value. When looking at the two, is Reid 3x's more likely to win than Rivera? How much would a KC loss to SD and a Carolina win against ATL do to tip the scales?

 
Gotta think its Reid or Rivera

Arians might have had a shot if Cards made playoffs
That is who I am looking at.
I wonder if most will just look at the record and say Reid took a 2-14 team and won 11-12 games with them(a +9/10 improvement) versus Rivera who took a 7-9 team and won 11-12 games(a +4/5 improvement) and just give it to Reid.
Quite possible scoob. There just aren't many (any?) quality wins for KC...the Philly win is about as good as it gets. Nevertheless, a +9/10 game improvement is solid. This is gambling though, and we're looking for value. When looking at the two, is Reid 3x's more likely to win than Rivera? How much would a KC loss to SD and a Carolina win against ATL do to tip the scales?
I certainly agree with you on the value and from that standpoint Rivera does present value, esp if they win the division and clinch the #2 seed and I certainly agree that Reid and KC have benefited from a weak schedule(which a team usually does every year). I also think the fact that there was talk about Rivera being fired when they were 1-3 and finished 12-4/11-5 says a lot more about his coaching then KC who started 9-0 but is only gonna finish 11-5/12-4.

ETA of course watch Bill Belichick win it as the dope writers fall for the OMG look at what he did without Welker, Hernandez, Gronk

 
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ETA of course watch Bill Belichick win it as the dope writers fall for the OMG look at what he did without Welker, Hernandez, Gronk
Absolutely possible. Kelly, Arians, and to a lesser extent Carroll are all in play as well. There's no "feel good" story or turnaround there, but +2500 for Carroll is off imo.

 
ETA of course watch Bill Belichick win it as the dope writers fall for the OMG look at what he did without Welker, Hernandez, Gronk
Absolutely possible. Kelly, Arians, and to a lesser extent Carroll are all in play as well. There's no "feel good" story or turnaround there, but +2500 for Carroll is off imo.
Who votes? If it's media then I can';t see anyone else other then Reid. If it's fellow coaches then we could see a different result.

 
ETA of course watch Bill Belichick win it as the dope writers fall for the OMG look at what he did without Welker, Hernandez, Gronk
Absolutely possible. Kelly, Arians, and to a lesser extent Carroll are all in play as well. There's no "feel good" story or turnaround there, but +2500 for Carroll is off imo.
Who votes? If it's media then I can';t see anyone else other then Reid. If it's fellow coaches then we could see a different result.
I believe its the AP coach of the year award, so the press.

 
Gotta think its Reid or Rivera

Arians might have had a shot if Cards made playoffs
That is who I am looking at.
I wonder if most will just look at the record and say Reid took a 2-14 team and won 11-12 games with them(a +9/10 improvement) versus Rivera who took a 7-9 team and won 11-12 games(a +4/5 improvement) and just give it to Reid.
Quite possible scoob. There just aren't many (any?) quality wins for KC...the Philly win is about as good as it gets. Nevertheless, a +9/10 game improvement is solid. This is gambling though, and we're looking for value. When looking at the two, is Reid 3x's more likely to win than Rivera? How much would a KC loss to SD and a Carolina win against ATL do to tip the scales?
Philly win was in the Vick era so I'm not sure that even counts. That team was a mess with him as QB.

I think it has to be someone from the NFC. AZ might not make it as a 11-5 team. I know Carolina can still get the #1 seed - small chance - but can you really give it to a coach to a WC team over the #1 seed of the NFC?

 
Another note: KC was 9-0 and 2-4 their last 6. AZ was 3-4 and 7-1 last 8. Carolina was 1-3 and has won 10/11. Their only loss was at NO who is undefeated at home.

If I were voting, no way can I give it to a team faltering down the stretch.

If AZ makes the playoffs and Carolina wins the #1 seed, that would be a really tough decision. Has any coach who didn't make the playoffs won the award? I'm guessing no.

 
Another note: KC was 9-0 and 2-4 their last 6. AZ was 3-4 and 7-1 last 8. Carolina was 1-3 and has won 10/11. Their only loss was at NO who is undefeated at home.

If I were voting, no way can I give it to a team faltering down the stretch.

If AZ makes the playoffs and Carolina wins the #1 seed, that would be a really tough decision. Has any coach who didn't make the playoffs won the award? I'm guessing no.
I agree with all of this but we are talking about AP writers, not always the smartest bunch of guys so a bunch of them may have had their minds set on voting for Reid. Fair? No but highly probable.

ETA Can we make any correlation between the AP voting Malzahn as Coach of the Year and the NFL coach of the year award? I mean to me did anyone do more with less than Cutcliffe at Duke? I know Auburn was winless in the SEC last year and won only 3 games but I believe he had more to work with then Cutcliffe did.

 
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seem like the whole world is on OSU.
Like Dr d said. Seems very weird line has stayed at 3 with coach leaving qb's being sent home, and whatever else. Its Hawaii teams just come down to party right, who knows which team is going to show up, but staying with my Boise bet

 
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Home team, NBA, Xmas Day - Last 10 years:

SU: 21-15 (1.83, 58.3%) ATS: 19-16-1 (-1.51, 54.3%) avg line: -3.3 O/U: 13-22-1 (-5.90, 37.1%) avg total: 197.2 link

 
Chris Petersen is 92-12 SU in his career as HC. He has led Boise State to a BG every year since 2006. They are 5-2 SU and ATS in BG (link). He is 7-2 SU and ATS overall on neutral (link).

 
With 13 prop books, I find myself shooting for middles seemingly too often. Sometimes you just can't help it, like this one. Nearly a 50 yd middle:

12/24/2013 8:00 PM - (EST)
Sean Mannion passing yards/Sean Mannion passing yards. Ov 340½ -115 for Game Risking 575.00 USD To Win 500.00 USD

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Sean Mannion/Passing Yards u389½ (-115) $575.00 $500.00
 
My bowl game breakdowns don't help me at all with the Hawaii Bowl tomorrow, I had Oregon State as a 2 point favorite and a total of 63. I also don't think balcony peeing Southwick being out means much, Hedrick is completely capable of running that offense. Both teams got housed by Washington, Oregon State won by 4 @ San Diego State and Boise lost by 4 @San Diego State. Five of the six Oregon State losses came to bowl teams, the sixth loss was to FCS power Eastern Washington who probably could beat most of the teams who have already played in bowl games.

Four of the last five years have been blowouts, underdog has also won four of the past five. Public :wub: Oregon State with great vigor yet the books are holding Boise at +3 -120. For the total Oregon State can't stop anyone good at all, and Boise tries to run 100 plays a game. I like Boise and the over a bit here, but since I'm trying to apply more restraint to this bowl season I actually might lay off here.
played Oregon State -3 for 1u

ETA: playing upon recommendation of predction machine, not to oppose you :boxing:
What does the prediction machine have for USU and NIU?

I just think Boise is the right bet, not even sure I'll bet anything but trying to figure out what I'll watch tonight if I have no money on this game. Maybe I'll do a 2H bet or something. Boise always plays with a chip on their shoulder though, that's why they are an interesting proposition against these big conference teams. How not having Petersen or I.P. Freely tonight will be interesting though.

 
My bowl game breakdowns don't help me at all with the Hawaii Bowl tomorrow, I had Oregon State as a 2 point favorite and a total of 63. I also don't think balcony peeing Southwick being out means much, Hedrick is completely capable of running that offense. Both teams got housed by Washington, Oregon State won by 4 @ San Diego State and Boise lost by 4 @San Diego State. Five of the six Oregon State losses came to bowl teams, the sixth loss was to FCS power Eastern Washington who probably could beat most of the teams who have already played in bowl games.

Four of the last five years have been blowouts, underdog has also won four of the past five. Public :wub: Oregon State with great vigor yet the books are holding Boise at +3 -120. For the total Oregon State can't stop anyone good at all, and Boise tries to run 100 plays a game. I like Boise and the over a bit here, but since I'm trying to apply more restraint to this bowl season I actually might lay off here.
played Oregon State -3 for 1u

ETA: playing upon recommendation of predction machine, not to oppose you :boxing:
What does the prediction machine have for USU and NIU?

I just think Boise is the right bet, not even sure I'll bet anything but trying to figure out what I'll watch tonight if I have no money on this game. Maybe I'll do a 2H bet or something. Boise always plays with a chip on their shoulder though, that's why they are an interesting proposition against these big conference teams. How not having Petersen or I.P. Freely tonight will be interesting though.
It likes USU @ +2 (recommends a 1.5u bet)

 
New Angle: Hawaii Bowl Underdogs:

SU: 5-6-0 (2.55, 45.5%) ATS: 8-3-0 (11.32, 72.7%) avg line: 8.8 O/U: 3-4-0 (-0.07, 42.9%) avg total: 65.8 Hawaii Bowl dogs are 3-1 SU and 4-0 ATS L4 (link). Also, Ore St 86 offensive rypg while allowing 5.6 rypa and 193 rypg. Also, Connor Halliday and Derek Carr both lost this week after long layoffs.

 
My bowl game breakdowns don't help me at all with the Hawaii Bowl tomorrow, I had Oregon State as a 2 point favorite and a total of 63. I also don't think balcony peeing Southwick being out means much, Hedrick is completely capable of running that offense. Both teams got housed by Washington, Oregon State won by 4 @ San Diego State and Boise lost by 4 @San Diego State. Five of the six Oregon State losses came to bowl teams, the sixth loss was to FCS power Eastern Washington who probably could beat most of the teams who have already played in bowl games.

Four of the last five years have been blowouts, underdog has also won four of the past five. Public :wub: Oregon State with great vigor yet the books are holding Boise at +3 -120. For the total Oregon State can't stop anyone good at all, and Boise tries to run 100 plays a game. I like Boise and the over a bit here, but since I'm trying to apply more restraint to this bowl season I actually might lay off here.
played Oregon State -3 for 1u

ETA: playing upon recommendation of predction machine, not to oppose you :boxing:
What does the prediction machine have for USU and NIU?

I just think Boise is the right bet, not even sure I'll bet anything but trying to figure out what I'll watch tonight if I have no money on this game. Maybe I'll do a 2H bet or something. Boise always plays with a chip on their shoulder though, that's why they are an interesting proposition against these big conference teams. How not having Petersen or I.P. Freely tonight will be interesting though.
It likes USU @ +2 (recommends a 1.5u bet)
I like USU a lot tomorrow.

 
Probably a good thing for the rest if you that I'm at odds with most of our group picks so far this bowl season.

Bevers -3
Outside of ECU what group picks have we had? Buffalo I guess was another, we all lost that one. I think we've been split on almost all the rest, including tonight.

 
Colorado State +5 :thumbup:

Fresno State +6 LOSS

Fresno St/USC OVER 63 1.5u WIN

Buffalo ML +100 LOSS

ULL +2.5 WIN

Tulane/ULL UNDER 49 WIN

East Carolina -13 :thumbup:

Boise State ML +135 to win 1u LOSS

Utah State ML -110 1.5u :thumbup:

NIU 2H pick'em LOSS

Bowling Green/Pitt Under 50 LOSS

Maryland +2 .75u LOSS

Maryland/Marshall UNDER 63.5 :thumbup:

Minnesota -4 LOSS

UW/BYU OVER 60.5 1.5u LOSS

Notre Dame -7 2h -120 .5u WIN

Cincinnati +3 AUTOPLAY 1.5u LOSS

Cincinnati 2h -.5 .75u LOSS

Cincinnati/UNC UNDER 59 :thumbup:

Miami/UL UNDER 59.5 WIN

Michigan/K-State U 55.5 1.5u :thumbup:

MTSU/NAVY OVER 54.5 AUTOPLAY 1.5u LOSS

Georgia Tech +3 AUTOPLAY 1.5u LOSS

Oregon TT O40.5 .75u LOSS

Texas Tech +14.5 :thumbup:

TT/ASU OVER 72 LOSS

BC/UA UNDER 57.5 LOSS

UCLA/Va Tech OVER 47.5 WIN +9

UCLA -7 :thumbup:

UCLA -3 2h WIN

MIss State -7 :thumbup:

Texas A&M/Duke UNDER 74 AUTOPLAY 2u LOSS

TAMU -13 LOSS

TAMU 2h -10 :thumbup:

UNLV +6.5 LOSS

Nebraska +8.5 WIN

Nebraska/UGa UNDER 60 AUTOPLAY 1.5u :thumbup:

LSU/IOWA UNDER 49 AUTOPLAY 1.5u WIN

Michigan State +4.5 AUTOPLAY 1.5u :thumbup:

UCF +16.5 WIN

UCF +17 WIN

UCF ML +500 .5u :hifive:

Oklahoma +15 AUTOPLAY 1.5u :excited:

Mizzou/Oklahoma St OVER 61 AUTOPLAY 2u :thumbup:

Okie State -2.5 1.5u LOSS

Ohio State -3 LOSS

OSU/Clemson 2h OVER 37 LOSS

Vandy/Houston UNDER 53.5 LOSS

Ball State -7 LOSS

Auburn/FSU 1h UNDER 34 1.5u WIN

Auburn +10.5 1.5u WIN

Auburn/FSU 2h OVER 34 PUSH

29-23-1 +8.5u

 
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