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I think you're missing his point. No team is going to give up anything valuable to the Packers for Flynn unless Flynn agrees to a long term contract with that team. Why would say Miami give up a second round pick just so they can have Flynn for one season where they pay him $14MM?
1) As far as I know, they can't discuss players under contract right now.2) If Flynn doesn't agree to a contract, then it would be two 1st round picks.
Again, I think the logic is misleading because it starts with an opinion that is not necessarily true. The word on the street is that "anything valuable" does not have to be two 1st round picks, or even one 1st round pick. Maybe they will take a 2nd rounder or two 3rd rounders. All of those options are more valuable than a single late 3rd, which is the compensatory valuation. A team like the Browns may be interested and the "franchise and trade" tactic has been done before.
Pretty much disagree with everything in your post, outside of the obvious (Luck/Indy, RG3/Cleveland,Miami,Washington). Don't think Orton's going to be a big factor in anything. (He'll be at best competing for a starting job)Why did the Cardinals pay (Kolb)? (no offseason to boot) Why did the Chiefs pay (Cassel)? Texans (Schaub)? Because they felt the QB would make their team better. It's going to be no different with Flynn....all it takes is one franchise to be interested.'benson_will_lead_the_way said:NYJ-Sanchez will get at least one more yearJacksonville- Gabbert is 22 years old, give him more than one year to show he isn't a startable QB'Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub said:'Donnybrook said:Hit the nail on the head with everything I was going to post.
I don't think Tannehill makes it to 2nd. Brandon Weeden might due to his age (29 this October). So the real decision IMO is him against Matt Flynn. Worst case is getting a 2nd for Flynn. And given the overall history of 2nd round QB picks drafted.....that's not a bad price at all if you feel he's starting QB in the league.
You have a # of QB needy teams in the league: Seattle, Washington, Cleveland, Miami, Jets, Arizona, Jacksonville, Indy. [Manning is going to be a wildcard -- which is why I threw the Jets in]
There's going to be a market for Flynn. Franchising is the no brainer here. (Was surprised there was any previous thoughts of not doing so).
Indy- They're taking Luck
Arizona- They're not giving up on Kolb after one year and then trading for + giving a contract to another Kolb type of player.
That leaves Seattle, Washington, Cleveland:
Seattle-Seahawks GM John Schneider insists he won't make a "panic" move at quarterback because "it can set the organization back."
"That may disappoint fans, because they want to see an instant guy and have that instant success," Schneider said. "But really, you're better off continuing to build your team." Schneider's comments suggest the Seahawks will be reluctant to overpay for free agent Matt Flynn or reach for Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill at No. 12 overall.
Washington/Miami/Cleveland- RGIII will go to one of these teams, Ryan Tannehill is available, Peyton Manning, Kyle Orton, etc.
I could actually see Cleveland not addressing QB or just signing Orton. They seem to be going the Seattle route of ball control offense.
Why would a team pay anything extra for Flynn when I don't see a bidding war for him? It's kind of like having a FF owner putting a veteran on the block when they're in rebuild mode. Why would you overpay when you know they have to get rid of them?
Sure it's not a "necessarily" true, but do you think the Browns will trade a second round pick or two third round picks for a one year rental at the price of $14 MM?For all practical purposes it is true that a team is not going to deal for Flynn unless they are allowed a window to negotiate for a long term deal first.
Exactly. no one is making a trade for Flynn without a long term deal in place. They just won't.
Finley was resigned and will continue to be a part of a spread offense that doesn't focus on any one player.Happy?Lots of good Finley info in here!
I don't think the Packers do it unless they have some "talks" and know they have a suitor that will work for both parties.
Like New Orleans prior to last year?Finley was resigned and will continue to be a part of a spread offense that doesn't focus on any one player.Happy?Lots of good Finley info in here!
Link?Done deal!Flynn for the 22nd pick overall.
I think that was wishful thinking.Link?Done deal!
