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First Presidential Debate (1 Viewer)
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squistion
Footballguy
He certainly attempted to bully her with his interruptions, particularly in the first 26 minutes.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/27/13017666/presidential-debate-trump-clinton-sexism-interruptions
Trump interrupted Clinton 51 times at the debate. She interrupted him just 17 times.
At Monday night’s presidential debate, by our count, Donald Trump interrupted Hillary Clinton 25 times in the first 26 minutes of the debate.
By the time the debate was over, Trump had interrupted Clinton 51 times — whereas Clinton had interrupted Trump just 17 times.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
It's lame. It's one of the lamer "insults" out there. Don't have any idea how it got any traction.
ericttspikes
Footballguy
For a guy in the throes of mental illness, I thought Trump did a great job.
The General
Footballguy
RealReactions
Footballguy
This country is screwed just reading both sides of each argument. I really don't know how one FULLY backs either candidate. Hillary, without questions, should be in jail. Supporters on her side blow my mind that you support a legit criminal. Just because her name value is why she isn't behind bars. Trump on the other hand has a lot of issues but the only experience he has that would be good for this country is the business side of him. Let me say that again, HE IS A BUSINESS MAN not a POLITICIAN and if you work in a firm or any other business really, you should know its about what people want to hear not what they need to hear. Here is a quote that also suggest my point, "suggest he’s not saying one thing and doing another." That quote is from here. Its just to show you people that are nitpicking at the sh!t he said or says on television are just not actually thinking. Don't get me wrong most of the words that come out of his mouth are crazy, but he sees the bigger picture as the "average voter" has literally no peripheral vision and can only see their own views. He sees the views of what is it like 45% right now after the poll and Hillary is like 46 or 47%. Trump says what those people want to hear and thats it. I highly doubt that if he wins, he would actually build a wall. Thats just insanity, but the way he condones business I believe would be an asset to America when it comes to negotiations because he will see the other side from at least a money prospective, and try and get a deal done thats best for US. I also think the majority of "average voters" should legit read a book on what a president can and cannot due. The majority of people, probably some in here, have no idea what the president is limited too. Just mind blowing stuff really on how gullible America is. Swallowing every word thinking it will all come true. I personally don't think either candidate is good, and wish we could just start over but somehow we are left with a legit criminal who is also a extreme liar, and with a guy who doesn't think before he talks.
timschochet
Footballguy
NREC34
Footballguy
Obama has needed impeached for going on 8 years according to a lot of people. Weird how it never happens.
Sconch
Footballguy
RealReactions
Footballguy
Just read the title, you might be one of them that believe anything. Sounds like you are very gullible.
They lie non stop to cover themselves up. What makes you think they wouldn't for a person who could very well be our next president?
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joffer
Footballguy
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Guess your bar is so low that it must be underground. If you think you need an FBI indictment to FINALLY realize she's a corrupt, lying POS then you either ARE Hillary Clinton or you don't live in this country. In fact, even if you don't live in this country you would know that. So you must then be an alien from another planet. Or a zombie. Take your pick.
The smell of #### doesn't follow you around for 30 years because you're an honest, truthful person. But hey, I guess every cult leader needs their blind followers.
The General
Footballguy
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
I find it hilarious that you bring this up since this is EXACTLY what Democrats/Liberals are saying about Donald Trump (except for the Commie part).Obama is a communist Muslim who will destroy America.
Hillary is a corrupt, lying POS.
Should I dismiss it too with a
like you are?
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honky kong
Footballguy
As good a place as any to leave this, I supposeRealReactions said:
And give yourself a pat on the back for posting so much fail in one post.
cstu
Footballguy
My opposition to Trump isn't that he would try to destroy America (as Republicans claimed about Obama) but that's it dangerous to elect someone so unqualified who has no interest in preparing for the job. The debate illustrated that better than anything. IMO he would be even more of a puppet than W was and get manipulated by the people around him. Absolutely frightening that after the debacle of the W administration Republicans want to elect an even worse version of him in 2016.I find it hilarious that you bring this up since this is EXACTLY what Democrats/Liberals are saying about Donald Trump (except for the Commie part).
Should I dismiss it too with a
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fatguyinalittlecoat
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Seems like an insult to W getting compared to Trump. I thought W was terrible but I could come up with a bunch of positive things i could say about him.
snogger
Footballguy
And Hillary is bought and paid for.. so the only clear conscious thing to do is vote for Gary
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The General
Footballguy
Good golfer, excellent at clearing brush, can pull off wearing a cowboy hat.
The General
Footballguy
Acute makeup toxicity syndrome. Very sad.ericttspikes said:
msommer
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
People are saying trump is a flip flopping amateur. That is debatable.I find it hilarious that you bring this up since this is EXACTLY what Democrats/Liberals are saying about Donald Trump (except for the Commie part).
Should I dismiss it too with a
Obama is not a Muslim (somebody tell Donald).
timschochet
Footballguy
What a great article. Spot on accurate. I'd urge the Hillary haters to read it, but it won't make any difference to them.
cstu
Footballguy
I even had to explain the hatred of Hillary to my mother - even she didn't realize the extent of the sexism regarding her. It amazes me how people people seem oblivious it to it.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Not a great article. I don't think everyone who simply does not want to support HRC refuses to do so because she's a woman. The author tries to brush aside some real concerns with her. On her own merits, regardless of who she is running against, or who is currently in office, or her gender, there are legitimate questions about what she's done, who's funding her, etc. That's irresponsible writing, and the author does not support their assertion that opposition to HRC is gender based with any facts.
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The General
Footballguy
I skimmed it but didn't they point out that many of the things she gets killed for are done by others in her position but worse.
DaVinci
FairTaxguy
Hillary is corrupt to the bone, but people really hate her because she's a woman. Spot on.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
That's what the author wanted you to think, but even the few examples provided don't really take you to that conclusion.
RBM
Footballguy
honky kong
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
MoreHillary is corrupt to the bone, but people really hate her because she's a woman. Spot on.
NutterButter
Footballguy
I like W the person a lot. He seems like a really nice guy. He had no business being president though. Now trump likewise doesn't have any business being president and he's an absolute ahole.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
his nicknames were so bad they were good.I actually think the painting thing is awesome.
The guy was made to be the commissioner for MLB. President not so much.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
List of nicknames used by George W. Bush
Pootie-Poot – Vladimir Putin
Turd Blossom – Senior Advisor Karl Rove
Fredo – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Boner – John Boehner, Republican Majority Leader
Conan the Republican - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Hogan – John McCain, Republican Senator, Arizona (as in Hogan's Heroes)
Altoid Boy – Special Assistant Israel Hernandez (for his role as provider of breath mints to the President on the campaign trail)
Sit Room Guy – White House Situation Room Director James P. Wisecup
Tree Man – Bush's unnamed Forest Services official
La Margarita – Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Tangent Man – White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card
Light Bulb – National Energy Policy Development Group Executive Director Andrew D. Lundquist
Congressman Kickass – John Sweeney, Republican Congressman, New York[
Sabertooth – Barney Frank, Democratic Congressman, Massachusetts
Flies on the Eyeballs Guy – Director of the CIA Counterterrorist Center Cofer Black
I doubt he ever knew the real names of "Sit Room Guy" or "Tree Man".
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
How Much Damage Did the Debate Do to Donald Trump?
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/how-much-damage-did-the-debate-do-to-donald-trump
Excerpt - "It will take until the weekend to know for sure how much damage Trump did to his candidacy on Monday. That’s when a slew of national and battleground-state polls taken after the debate are due to be published. The small amount of data we already have, though, suggests that Clinton can expect to enjoy a significant bounce. The Politico/Morning Consult poll is just one survey, but the numbers are telling.
Nine per cent of the respondents to the Politico/Morning Consult poll said the debate changed their minds about whom to vote for. Nine per cent of the electorate is a lot. If we assume that two-thirds of these voters switched to Clinton and one-third switched to Trump, which would be in line with the finding that Clinton won the debate by a two-to-one margin among respondents, we could expect the polls to swing in her favor by three per cent.
And, in fact, that is the kind of swing that the researchers from Politico/Morning Consult found when they asked respondents whom they intended to vote for. Going into the debate, this poll had indicated that Clinton was leading Trump by two points in a head-to-head matchup. Now Clinton is leading by four points—a two-point swing in her favor. In a four-way matchup that includes Gary Johnson, of the Libertarian Party, and Jill Stein, of the Green Party, Clinton has also gained two points.
In the coming days, Clinton’s poll lead may well expand by more than two per cent, and perhaps by as much as four or five per cent. That’s partly because she was already on a slight upward trend in the days before the debate and also because she stands to benefit from all the positive coverage she has received in its aftermath. But the main reason is that Clinton did what she needed to do—rallying her base and appealing to independents. Trump didn’t meet his objectives—and further numbers suggest that’s putting it kindly.
One of Clinton’s challenges, going way back to the primaries, has been inspiring enthusiasm in progressive Democrats, particularly men, many of whom supported Bernie Sanders. But, after Monday’s debate, according to the Politico/Morning Consult poll, seventy four per cent of Democratic men said that they had a more favorable opinion of her after the debate. Fifty-two per cent said their opinion was “much more favorable.” That’s important. It suggests that, as the debates progress, Clinton could well take more votes from Johnson and Stein.
Clinton may also have picked up a bit of ground among independents, particularly independents who think of themselves as moderate rather than either liberal or conservative. In this group, forty per cent of Politico/Morning Consult’s respondents said that they had a more favorable opinion of her after the debate, and twenty-five per cent said they had a less favorable opinion. That wasn’t as impressive as her performance among Democrats, but it was a net positive.
With Trump, those numbers were flipped: twenty-six per cent of moderate independents said that they had a more favorable opinion of him after the debate; thirty-nine per cent said they had a less favorable opinion. The figures for the entire sample were similar. Thirty per cent of respondents over all said that they had a more favorable opinion of Trump after the debate; thirty-seven per cent said they had a less favorable opinion.
That as many as three in ten Americans raised their opinion of Trump after watching his performance should give the pundit class pause. But that number will provide little solace to Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s campaign manager, and her colleagues. Trump has a large following, which responds enthusiastically to his bluster: nothing new there. But can he expand his support into a majority? Almost nothing about his performance on Monday night suggested that he can. Clinton, meanwhile, strengthened her lead."
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/how-much-damage-did-the-debate-do-to-donald-trump
Excerpt - "It will take until the weekend to know for sure how much damage Trump did to his candidacy on Monday. That’s when a slew of national and battleground-state polls taken after the debate are due to be published. The small amount of data we already have, though, suggests that Clinton can expect to enjoy a significant bounce. The Politico/Morning Consult poll is just one survey, but the numbers are telling.
Nine per cent of the respondents to the Politico/Morning Consult poll said the debate changed their minds about whom to vote for. Nine per cent of the electorate is a lot. If we assume that two-thirds of these voters switched to Clinton and one-third switched to Trump, which would be in line with the finding that Clinton won the debate by a two-to-one margin among respondents, we could expect the polls to swing in her favor by three per cent.
And, in fact, that is the kind of swing that the researchers from Politico/Morning Consult found when they asked respondents whom they intended to vote for. Going into the debate, this poll had indicated that Clinton was leading Trump by two points in a head-to-head matchup. Now Clinton is leading by four points—a two-point swing in her favor. In a four-way matchup that includes Gary Johnson, of the Libertarian Party, and Jill Stein, of the Green Party, Clinton has also gained two points.
In the coming days, Clinton’s poll lead may well expand by more than two per cent, and perhaps by as much as four or five per cent. That’s partly because she was already on a slight upward trend in the days before the debate and also because she stands to benefit from all the positive coverage she has received in its aftermath. But the main reason is that Clinton did what she needed to do—rallying her base and appealing to independents. Trump didn’t meet his objectives—and further numbers suggest that’s putting it kindly.
One of Clinton’s challenges, going way back to the primaries, has been inspiring enthusiasm in progressive Democrats, particularly men, many of whom supported Bernie Sanders. But, after Monday’s debate, according to the Politico/Morning Consult poll, seventy four per cent of Democratic men said that they had a more favorable opinion of her after the debate. Fifty-two per cent said their opinion was “much more favorable.” That’s important. It suggests that, as the debates progress, Clinton could well take more votes from Johnson and Stein.
Clinton may also have picked up a bit of ground among independents, particularly independents who think of themselves as moderate rather than either liberal or conservative. In this group, forty per cent of Politico/Morning Consult’s respondents said that they had a more favorable opinion of her after the debate, and twenty-five per cent said they had a less favorable opinion. That wasn’t as impressive as her performance among Democrats, but it was a net positive.
With Trump, those numbers were flipped: twenty-six per cent of moderate independents said that they had a more favorable opinion of him after the debate; thirty-nine per cent said they had a less favorable opinion. The figures for the entire sample were similar. Thirty per cent of respondents over all said that they had a more favorable opinion of Trump after the debate; thirty-seven per cent said they had a less favorable opinion.
That as many as three in ten Americans raised their opinion of Trump after watching his performance should give the pundit class pause. But that number will provide little solace to Kellyanne Conway, Trump’s campaign manager, and her colleagues. Trump has a large following, which responds enthusiastically to his bluster: nothing new there. But can he expand his support into a majority? Almost nothing about his performance on Monday night suggested that he can. Clinton, meanwhile, strengthened her lead."
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