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Fitzgerald vs. Boldin (1 Viewer)

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This is a question for all those that value Larry Fitzgerald ahead of Anquan Boldin.

There are six sets of dynasty rankings from the staff, and each one has Fitzgerald as the number one receiver. Boldin is ranked in the 5-7 range. But this question is not just for those six people.

Fitzgerald HT 6-3, WT 223, Born 8-31-1983

He played 16 games last year and caught 103 of his 165 targets (62.4%) for 1409 yards (13.7 ypc) and 10 TDs.

In 2004, his rookie season he also played in 16 games, catching 58 of 104 targets (55.8%) for 780 yards (13.4 ypc) and 8 TDs.

Boldin HT 6-1, WT 216, Born 10-3-1980

He played 14 games last year and caught 102 of 171 targets (59.6%) for 1402 yards (13.7 ypc) and 7 TDs.

In 2004 he was hurt and only played 10 games, catching 56 of 102 targets (54.9%) for 623 yards (11.1 ypc) and 1 TD.

In his rookie season he was the only real target in the receiving game, catching 101 of his 165 targets (61.2%) for 1377 yards (13.6 ypc) and 8 TDs.

So Boldin was more heavily targeted than Fitzgerald last year, despite playing two fewer games. Fitzgerald finished higher due to scoring three more TDs; a more random statistic than targets, receptions and yardage (Torry Holt's career numbers highlight that well).

So is he ranked that much higher because of his age? Is it because he has more improvement left in him than Boldin? Is it because you see Boldin as a bigger injury risk? What are your reasons for ranking Fitzgerald significantly higher? Would this still be the case for redraft purposes?

 
For me, its the risk that Boldin's knee becomes a long term problem and deteriorates. Also, watching Fitz, you get the feeling that he still hasn't hit his ceiling yet. For redraft, I would agree that they're indistinguishable.

 
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For me, its the risk that Boldin's knee becomes a long term problem and deteriorates. Also, watching Fitz, you get the feeling that he still hasn't hit his ceiling yet. For redraft, I would agree that they're indistinguishable.
Ok, that's an opinion I can respect, thanks.
 
Who is better value in a dynasty draft?

According to FBGs overall rankings, Fitzgerald would go at 1.12/2.1 and Boldin at 2.10 (12 team league).

I know that you would only get a chance at one, depending on your draft position (barring trades), but who is the better value based on those rankings?

 
Who is better value in a dynasty draft?

According to FBGs overall rankings, Fitzgerald would go at 1.12/2.1 and Boldin at 2.10 (12 team league).

I know that you would only get a chance at one, depending on your draft position (barring trades), but who is the better value based on those rankings?
If thats the case Boldin is the better player to draft.
 
For me, its the risk that Boldin's knee becomes a long term problem and deteriorates. Also, watching Fitz, you get the feeling that he still hasn't hit his ceiling yet. For redraft, I would agree that they're indistinguishable.
I Agree with this. Fitz was 20 when he entered the league, so he hasn't reached his "prime" Boldin's knee is always a concern. I think that in a redraft style league that your slot will determine which guy is yours because it will be hard to get both. Since most WRs star tgoing between mid 2 to late 3, it is a question of which on eis there at your pick.
 
Because he was a top 5 pick in the NFL draft. Boldin went in round 2. So obviously, Fitz must be better. He also never gets hurt. I mean he's played two whole years already without missing a game. He's an ironman. Boldin breaks like glass. I mean Boldin has already missed like half a season in 3 years.

 
TDs baby, TDs
:thumbup: it seemed pretty obvious that in the red zone, Fitz is the main target....he's more of a leaper, so the throw it up and go get it plays are going to him - and more often than not, he gets it.

 
Fitz was being hyped as the best WR to come out of the draft since Moss and hasn't done anything to show that he isn't. He's more of a Jerry Rice/Cris Carter than Moss since he's not that fast but his hands more than make up for any speed that he lacks.

 
Fitzgerald finished higher due to scoring three more TDs; a more random statistic than targets...
Targets get you jack. And in many leagues, targets are the precursor to receptions, which also get you jack. TD's are simply worth more.
 
In a dynasty it would be Fitz for me. He is younger (not a lot, but it is a factor), his injury history is better (although it is a small sample at this point) and he is already performing at are better than Boldin's level based on last years stats. This one is pretty easy for me.

In a redraft for 2006 it would be a toss up for me, I would be happy with either one.

 
Fitzgerald finished higher due to scoring three more TDs; a more random statistic than targets...
Targets get you jack. And in many leagues, targets are the precursor to receptions, which also get you jack. TD's are simply worth more.
I agree that targets alone get you jack. If Warner threw 170 times to me I wouldn't have 100 receptions. But with two players that catch around 60% of their passes, I think the statistic is important. Boldin averaged almost two targets a game more than Fitzgerald.As for Boldin's latest injury, he came back with 63 receptions in the 7 games following that injury, gaining 786 yards and 4 TDs. While his injury history is a factor, I would not worry unduly based on the way he performed in the second half of the season.

Fitzgerald's biggest game of the season came in Week 10 with Boldin out and he was targeted 14 times in each game that Boldin missed, compared to a season average of 10.3. What I am suggesting is that Boldin is clearly the favored target and could produce better numbers than Fitzgerald in the coming seasons. He may be three years older, but he could still have as many as ten seasons ahead of him.

 
Also four of Fitzgerald's TDs came from eight yards out or closer, compared to none from Boldin. If anyone stands to lose TD opportunities due to Edge running them in, Fitzgerald arguably has the most to lose.

 
Boldin has 16 TDs on 259 receptions in 40 games. 1 TD every 16.2 receptions and 1 TD every 2.5 games.

Fitz has 18 TDs on 161 receptions in 32 games. 1 TD every 8.9 receptions and 1 TD every 1.8 games.

TDs are definitely volatile, but it is hard not to conclude that Fitz is more likely to score, whether due to better ability in the red zone, due to Warner's tendency to prefer him in the red zone, whatever.

Given that everything else is so close between them, this puts him over the top, redraft or dynasty.

The fact that he is 3 years younger is another plus for dynasty. Heck, Fitz is 22 right now... not even close to his prime yet. Come to think of it, maybe I'd take this as a plus for redraft as well--more likelihood of improvement this year...?

All that said, I'd happily take either of them.

 
Also four of Fitzgerald's TDs came from eight yards out or closer, compared to none from Boldin. If anyone stands to lose TD opportunities due to Edge running them in, Fitzgerald arguably has the most to lose.
not necessarily.Once in the redzone, if you're the D which do you think is going to get the rock? It might still be there for him.

Green's best backs didn't score alot of TDs. I think Rob Smith was good for 5-7.

 

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