Five Guys thread, a 130+ page swordfight. (1 Viewer)

[Aaron Rudnicki]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/08/five-guys-burger-vs-in-n-_n_846743.html

Now at 27 Southern California locations, Five Guys seems set to overwhelm the burger landscape as well as the iconic In-N-Out franchise. The LA Times reports that "Five Guys has sold the rights to open 200 more in Southern California alone — nearly double the number operated here by In-N-Out. Next up is a Culver City location, set to open in mid-April."

Five Guys bested In-N-Out in Zagat's 2010 fast food survey for the "Best Fast Food Burger," although it was noted that it could be because the Five Guys chain is simply more prolific than West Coast-based In-N-Out.

The LA Times also notes some interesting differences between the clientele of In-N-Out and Five Guys:

In-N-Out's menu items are generally less expensive — the chain is most popular with young men ages 18 to 24 with an income of less than $70,000 a year, according to NPD. By contrast, Five Guys patrons are generally 25 to 50 years old, with an income of more than $100,000.

 

[GDogg]

But, your question was why it was the standard. He's telling you why - because it's a chain that is delicious and priced reasonably.

He's not telling you to go to In n' Out instead of Five Guys. He's saying Five Guys doesn't compare favorably.

No, this is like people in Chicago telling people in California how much their pizza sucks and saying that it doesn't compare to Lou Malnati's. And, that would most likely be true.

it's a chain that probably doesn't cover 10% of the area that Five Guys is available in. It's a ridiculous standard.Five Guys might not compare favorably to lots of places, but that's not really the point. Compare it to other national chains and it does pretty well.

Great, In N Out is better and cheaper. Now what? Since the vast majority of us can't get In N Out, where does that leave us? We should just never eat a burger b/c it won't be as awesome as the product from In N Out?

Or maybe we can discuss which NATIONAL chain puts out the best quality burger at a reasonable price.

Define area. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Texas are most likely greater than 10% of area of the country.It's not a ridiculous standard. It's the standard. You can't honestly look at Five Guys (the appearance) and not think In n' Out isn't the standard and isn't the model for what they've done. They've copied everything about the look of In n' Out down to the red and white tiles and added their own tacky touches. And, In n' Out is 40 years older. So, is it sheer coincidence that Five Guys is so similar to In n' Out in restaurant style and color scheme and that they attacked the east coast premium burger niche? I don't think so. I think Five Guys sees In n' Out as the gold standard and is trying to replicate it in their own way, and have simply come up short.

And, I don't think anyone is saying those of you who only have Five Guys should simply boycott it because it is not as good. But, those that are saying they have both as an option are simply saying that they cannot find a good reason to go to Five Guys over In n' Out. If Five Guys is the best you've got in your area, then so be it. My condolences.

I think they "attacked the East Coast" because they lived in Virginia.

The "East Coast" portion of that wasn't the point other than they weren't directly competing with In-n-Out. It was the next two words, "premium [fastish food] burger," that was more a part of the point of Five Guys copying In-n-Out.

 

[GDogg]

Yes, vets.I drive all the way home. I live 2 minutes from an In n' Out, so no, the bun is not soaked through with grease or anything else and I get my double double animal style.You could also park your car in the lot, and get out and sit outside on one of the tables. I honestly don't know if In n' Out does because I rarely, if ever, go inside, but lots of places charge more if you get it "for here" rather than "to go." Waiting in a long ### line inside is a rookie move.

You live 2 minutes from an In-n-out, yet choose to drive just to use the drive thru? Then your method won't work for anyone that doesn't live close to one, ie 99% of people.So my statement is still correct.And waiting in a long line for overhyped slow food IS a rookie move, which is why I prefer Five Guys.

I choose to drive because I have a 2 year old waiting for me at home and don't feel like walking one mile each way at night. And, normally, I get it on the way home from somewhere (work, Home Depot, Bed Bath & Beyond, etc.).My method will work for anyone that lives within 10 minutes or so. The bun is fine for quite awhile unless they screw up the burger build.

 

[Rayderr]

In-N-Out's menu items are generally less expensive — the chain is most popular with young men ages 18 to 24 with an income of less than $70,000 a year, according to NPD. By contrast, Five Guys patrons are generally 25 to 50 years old, with an income of more than $100,000.

Ok, In 'n Out eaters, time for you to turn in your FBG card.

 

[Rayderr]

But, your question was why it was the standard. He's telling you why - because it's a chain that is delicious and priced reasonably.

He's not telling you to go to In n' Out instead of Five Guys. He's saying Five Guys doesn't compare favorably.

No, this is like people in Chicago telling people in California how much their pizza sucks and saying that it doesn't compare to Lou Malnati's. And, that would most likely be true.

it's a chain that probably doesn't cover 10% of the area that Five Guys is available in. It's a ridiculous standard.Five Guys might not compare favorably to lots of places, but that's not really the point. Compare it to other national chains and it does pretty well.

Great, In N Out is better and cheaper. Now what? Since the vast majority of us can't get In N Out, where does that leave us? We should just never eat a burger b/c it won't be as awesome as the product from In N Out?

Or maybe we can discuss which NATIONAL chain puts out the best quality burger at a reasonable price.

Define area. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Texas are most likely greater than 10% of area of the country.It's not a ridiculous standard. It's the standard. You can't honestly look at Five Guys (the appearance) and not think In n' Out isn't the standard and isn't the model for what they've done. They've copied everything about the look of In n' Out down to the red and white tiles and added their own tacky touches. And, In n' Out is 40 years older. So, is it sheer coincidence that Five Guys is so similar to In n' Out in restaurant style and color scheme and that they attacked the east coast premium burger niche? I don't think so. I think Five Guys sees In n' Out as the gold standard and is trying to replicate it in their own way, and have simply come up short.

And, I don't think anyone is saying those of you who only have Five Guys should simply boycott it because it is not as good. But, those that are saying they have both as an option are simply saying that they cannot find a good reason to go to Five Guys over In n' Out. If Five Guys is the best you've got in your area, then so be it. My condolences.

I think they "attacked the East Coast" because they lived in Virginia.

The "East Coast" portion of that wasn't the point other than they weren't directly competing with In-n-Out. It was the next two words, "premium [fastish food] burger," that was more a part of the point of Five Guys copying In-n-Out.

Those places existed in the DC area (let alone the east coast) before Five Guys.

 

[Apple Jack]

This thread's refusal to fall off the first page is going to lead to an emergency fry run.

 

[GDogg]

But, your question was why it was the standard. He's telling you why - because it's a chain that is delicious and priced reasonably.

He's not telling you to go to In n' Out instead of Five Guys. He's saying Five Guys doesn't compare favorably.

No, this is like people in Chicago telling people in California how much their pizza sucks and saying that it doesn't compare to Lou Malnati's. And, that would most likely be true.

it's a chain that probably doesn't cover 10% of the area that Five Guys is available in. It's a ridiculous standard.Five Guys might not compare favorably to lots of places, but that's not really the point. Compare it to other national chains and it does pretty well.

Great, In N Out is better and cheaper. Now what? Since the vast majority of us can't get In N Out, where does that leave us? We should just never eat a burger b/c it won't be as awesome as the product from In N Out?

Or maybe we can discuss which NATIONAL chain puts out the best quality burger at a reasonable price.

Define area. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Texas are most likely greater than 10% of area of the country.It's not a ridiculous standard. It's the standard. You can't honestly look at Five Guys (the appearance) and not think In n' Out isn't the standard and isn't the model for what they've done. They've copied everything about the look of In n' Out down to the red and white tiles and added their own tacky touches. And, In n' Out is 40 years older. So, is it sheer coincidence that Five Guys is so similar to In n' Out in restaurant style and color scheme and that they attacked the east coast premium burger niche? I don't think so. I think Five Guys sees In n' Out as the gold standard and is trying to replicate it in their own way, and have simply come up short.

And, I don't think anyone is saying those of you who only have Five Guys should simply boycott it because it is not as good. But, those that are saying they have both as an option are simply saying that they cannot find a good reason to go to Five Guys over In n' Out. If Five Guys is the best you've got in your area, then so be it. My condolences.

I think they "attacked the East Coast" because they lived in Virginia.

The "East Coast" portion of that wasn't the point other than they weren't directly competing with In-n-Out. It was the next two words, "premium [fastish food] burger," that was more a part of the point of Five Guys copying In-n-Out.

Those places existed in the DC area (let alone the east coast) before Five Guys.

I never said they didn't. I said they attacked that niche. In any case, what are the competitors for the premium fast food burger chains in the DC area that existed before Five Guys? Do they also look eerily similar to In-n-Out?

 

[Exit 1]

Never been to an In-N-Out but I'd like to try it. However, the whole idea of a "secret" menu is really whack.

 

[Rayderr]

But, your question was why it was the standard. He's telling you why - because it's a chain that is delicious and priced reasonably.

He's not telling you to go to In n' Out instead of Five Guys. He's saying Five Guys doesn't compare favorably.

No, this is like people in Chicago telling people in California how much their pizza sucks and saying that it doesn't compare to Lou Malnati's. And, that would most likely be true.

it's a chain that probably doesn't cover 10% of the area that Five Guys is available in. It's a ridiculous standard.Five Guys might not compare favorably to lots of places, but that's not really the point. Compare it to other national chains and it does pretty well.

Great, In N Out is better and cheaper. Now what? Since the vast majority of us can't get In N Out, where does that leave us? We should just never eat a burger b/c it won't be as awesome as the product from In N Out?

Or maybe we can discuss which NATIONAL chain puts out the best quality burger at a reasonable price.

Define area. California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and Texas are most likely greater than 10% of area of the country.It's not a ridiculous standard. It's the standard. You can't honestly look at Five Guys (the appearance) and not think In n' Out isn't the standard and isn't the model for what they've done. They've copied everything about the look of In n' Out down to the red and white tiles and added their own tacky touches. And, In n' Out is 40 years older. So, is it sheer coincidence that Five Guys is so similar to In n' Out in restaurant style and color scheme and that they attacked the east coast premium burger niche? I don't think so. I think Five Guys sees In n' Out as the gold standard and is trying to replicate it in their own way, and have simply come up short.

And, I don't think anyone is saying those of you who only have Five Guys should simply boycott it because it is not as good. But, those that are saying they have both as an option are simply saying that they cannot find a good reason to go to Five Guys over In n' Out. If Five Guys is the best you've got in your area, then so be it. My condolences.

I think they "attacked the East Coast" because they lived in Virginia.

The "East Coast" portion of that wasn't the point other than they weren't directly competing with In-n-Out. It was the next two words, "premium [fastish food] burger," that was more a part of the point of Five Guys copying In-n-Out.

Those places existed in the DC area (let alone the east coast) before Five Guys.

I never said they didn't. I said they attacked that niche. In any case, what are the competitors for the premium fast food burger chains in the DC area that existed before Five Guys? Do they also look eerily similar to In-n-Out?

The places I was thinking weren't chains. But then, 5 guys didn't start off as a chain either. I don't get this "It looks like In & Out!" argument. I've looked at pics of I&O online. Not seeing the similarity. Because 5Guys uses red & white while I&O uses red, white & yellow? Because they have tiles on the wall? I don't see it. One uses checkers, the other palm trees and that weird arrow thing.

 

[Zegras11]

In-N-Out's menu items are generally less expensive — the chain is most popular with young men ages 18 to 24 with an income of less than $70,000 a year, according to NPD. By contrast, Five Guys patrons are generally 25 to 50 years old, with an income of more than $100,000.

Ok, In 'n Out eaters, time for you to turn in your FBG card.

You become a FBG'er by getting top quality at lowest possible price. Not wasting more money on a handful of extra, mushy fries.

 

[identikit]

In n Out stole McDonald's color scheme.

 

[Pipes]

This thread's refusal to fall off the first page is going to lead to an emergency fry run.

Went and had a Culver's cheeseburger for lunch...this thread maybe me hungry for a good cheeseburger.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/zagat-fast-food-survey_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.

Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.

The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.

The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.

Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:

Fast Food - Large Chains

1. Five Guys

2. Panera Bread

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill

4. Chick-fil-A

5. In-N-Out Burger

Fast Food - Mega Chains

1. Subway

2. McDonald's

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. Taco Bell

Best Burger

1. Five Guys

2. In-N-Out Burger

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. McDonald's

Best French Fries

1. McDonald's

2. Five Guys

3. Wendy's

4. In-N-Out Burger

5. Chick-fil-A

 

[Nugget]

Pacific Ocean > Atlantic Ocean.

/thread.

 

[Apple Jack]

Five Guys and In n Out do not look alike.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

In n Out stole McDonald's color scheme.

Five Guys and In n Out do not look alike.

 

[Zegras11]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/zagat-fast-food-survey_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:Fast Food - Large Chains1. Five Guys2. Panera Bread3. Chipotle Mexican Grill4. Chick-fil-A5. In-N-Out BurgerFast Food - Mega Chains1. Subway2. McDonald's3. Wendy's4. Burger King5. Taco BellBest Burger1. Five Guys2. In-N-Out Burger3. Wendy's4. Burger King5. McDonald'sBest French Fries1. McDonald's2. Five Guys3. Wendy's4. In-N-Out Burger5. Chick-fil-A

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

 

[identikit]

http://www.huffingto...y_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.

Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.

The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.

The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.

Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:

Fast Food - Large Chains

1. Five Guys

2. Panera Bread

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill

4. Chick-fil-A

5. In-N-Out Burger

Fast Food - Mega Chains

1. Subway

2. McDonald's

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. Taco Bell

Best Burger

1. Five Guys

2. In-N-Out Burger

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. McDonald's

Best French Fries

1. McDonald's

2. Five Guys

3. Wendy's

4. In-N-Out Burger

5. Chick-fil-A

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

Because it's the Gold Standard?

 

[Sweet Love]

Never been to an In-N-Out but I'd like to try it. However, the whole idea of a "secret" menu is really whack.

Went for the first time about 10 days ago while in a wedding in Manhattan Beach...it was "good", the fries were awful, but it was pretty cheap. I got mine "animal style" which had the guy behind the counter's "secret sauce" (no doubt). It was a good burger, but I normally do not add secret sauces or mayo to my burgers...they stand alone with ketchup and veggies. Not sure where it would have ranked under those guidelines, but I guess I like Five Guys better.Bonus: Watched a guy through the drive-thru window "hide" a 40 malt liquor as he was ordering...way to be inconspicuous, guy.

 

[Apple Jack]

Pacific Ocean > Atlantic Ocean./thread.

If you surf, sure. Otherwise, no way. Pacific is too cold. I will grant you Pacific coast > Atlantic coast. That's a slam dunk. But the Atlantic Ocean is a much better beaching ocean.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

274 locations. I guess that was enough to include them in the survey.

 

[Zegras11]

http://www.huffingto...y_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.

Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.

The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.

The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.

Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:

Fast Food - Large Chains

1. Five Guys

2. Panera Bread

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill

4. Chick-fil-A

5. In-N-Out Burger

Fast Food - Mega Chains

1. Subway

2. McDonald's

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. Taco Bell

Best Burger

1. Five Guys

2. In-N-Out Burger

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. McDonald's

Best French Fries

1. McDonald's

2. Five Guys

3. Wendy's

4. In-N-Out Burger

5. Chick-fil-A

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

Because it's the Gold Standard?

Just funny how Aaron has done a 180 here. First, InO can't be used because it's only in 5 states, and now we are seeing National surveys where it's ranked 2nd despite only having 5 states to a company in 40+ states.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

not really a 180, but not sure I get the point of people constantly bringing up IN N OUT in this thread.

but I guess they are in direct competition in California and some other areas.

I like both.

 

[identikit]

http://www.huffingto...y_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.

Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.

The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.

The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.

Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:

Fast Food - Large Chains

1. Five Guys

2. Panera Bread

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill

4. Chick-fil-A

5. In-N-Out Burger

Fast Food - Mega Chains

1. Subway

2. McDonald's

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. Taco Bell

Best Burger

1. Five Guys

2. In-N-Out Burger

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. McDonald's

Best French Fries

1. McDonald's

2. Five Guys

3. Wendy's

4. In-N-Out Burger

5. Chick-fil-A

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

Because it's the Gold Standard?

Just funny how Aaron has done a 180 here. First, InO can't be used because it's only in 5 states, and now we are seeing National surveys where it's ranked 2nd despite only having 5 states to a company in 40+ states.

Misquoted me.

 

[Nipsey]

FG's is a nice burger, well assembled. INO's is a unique, singular amalgam of tastes - one taste really - all which make a Double Double a Double Double. Put another way, a lot of of places can and do make a FG's burger, while nobody but INO does - or can - make an INO burger.

 

[Zegras11]

http://www.huffingto...y_n_950167.html

Zagat recently polled 6,064 people for its annual Fast Food Survey, in categories ranging from best coffee (Starbucks) to best salad (Panera). Among chains with up to 5,000 locations, Five Guys was deemed the most popular (which perhaps comes as no surprise), followed by Panera, Chipotle, Chick-fil-A and in fifth place, In-N-Out. Last year, Five Guys also took top prize, though In-N-Out was the victor in 2009. Five Guys was not only the most popular chain; it also dominated the best burger category, putting In-N-Out in second place and McDonald's in fifth. McDonald's did, however, rank highest in value, child-friendliness and drive-thru experience.

Among chains with over 5,000 locations, Subway took the top popularity spot, followed by McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King and Taco Bell bringing up the rear.

The survey also covered full-service chains. Cheesecake Factory won in best salads, appetizers, desserts and value, but fell to fifth place for its pasta offerings. Although Maggiano's Little Italy dominated the pasta category, its value, steak and seafood were not as well-liked. Other notable winners included Red Robin for its burger, IHOP for its coffee and Cracker Barrel for its breakfast.

The survey participants averaged 6.3 meals per month at a fast food chain (the national average is about 10 fast food meals monthly) and 4.4 visits to a full-service chain.

Here are some of the key results of Zagat's fast food survey:

Fast Food - Large Chains

1. Five Guys

2. Panera Bread

3. Chipotle Mexican Grill

4. Chick-fil-A

5. In-N-Out Burger

Fast Food - Mega Chains

1. Subway

2. McDonald's

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. Taco Bell

Best Burger

1. Five Guys

2. In-N-Out Burger

3. Wendy's

4. Burger King

5. McDonald's

Best French Fries

1. McDonald's

2. Five Guys

3. Wendy's

4. In-N-Out Burger

5. Chick-fil-A

Why is INO in a NATIONAL POLL?

Because it's the Gold Standard?

Just funny how Aaron has done a 180 here. First, InO can't be used because it's only in 5 states, and now we are seeing National surveys where it's ranked 2nd despite only having 5 states to a company in 40+ states.

Misquoted me.

Sorry, forgot to add "corrected"

 

[Exit 1]

Pacific Ocean > Atlantic Ocean./thread.

If you surf, sure. Otherwise, no way. Pacific is too cold. I will grant you Pacific coast > Atlantic coast. That's a slam dunk. But the Atlantic Ocean is a much better beaching ocean.

And you don't have to work about great white sharks in the Atlantic.

 

[identikit]

Pacific Ocean > Atlantic Ocean./thread.

If you surf, sure. Otherwise, no way. Pacific is too cold. I will grant you Pacific coast > Atlantic coast. That's a slam dunk. But the Atlantic Ocean is a much better beaching ocean.

And you don't have to work about great white sharks in the Atlantic.

Tell that to Quint.

 

[Nipsey]

Anyway they can do something about the horrible lighting? You could go blind in that place.

 

[Zegras11]

Anyway they can do something about the horrible lighting? You could go blind in that place.

absorbed by the girl that's "making the rockin' world go round"

 

[Nipsey]

Anyway they can do something about the horrible lighting? You could go blind in that place.

absorbed by the girl that's "making the rockin' world go round"

Perfect lighting for surgeons to perform a gastric bypass right there in the restaurant.

 

[GDogg]

Pacific Ocean > Atlantic Ocean./thread.

If you surf, sure. Otherwise, no way. Pacific is too cold. I will grant you Pacific coast > Atlantic coast. That's a slam dunk. But the Atlantic Ocean is a much better beaching ocean.

And you don't have to work about great white sharks in the Atlantic.

Are you kidding? Yes, you do.And, Florida has the most shark attacks of all types of any state in the country. Florida leads the world in shark attacks.I wouldn't set foot in the water in Florida (bull, tiger, hammerheads and juvenile great whites) or further up north in the Atlantic (colder water loving adult great whites).

 

[Moe.]

Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Chipotle is way better than Taco Bell, but I'm sure there are plenty of local or regional chains around the country that are better.

Nope. The closest is Rubios, but Chipotle is better.

 

[Chaka]

Whatever guys. http://www.burgatorybar.com/ is better than In and Out and has way better shakes. Plus there is a bar with TVs there and it's in Pittsburgh. Everytime I am over near the waterworks mall, I go there. I even bring my friends.

Looks good. If I'm ever in Pittsburgh I'll have to check it out.

 

[Zegras11]

Whatever guys. http://www.burgatorybar.com/ is better than In and Out and has way better shakes. Plus there is a bar with TVs there and it's in Pittsburgh. Everytime I am over near the waterworks mall, I go there. I even bring my friends.

Looks good. If I'm ever in Pittsburgh I'll have to check it out.

 

[Zegras11]

Whatever guys. http://www.burgatorybar.com/ is better than In and Out and has way better shakes. Plus there is a bar with TVs there and it's in Pittsburgh. Everytime I am over near the waterworks mall, I go there. I even bring my friends.

Looks good. If I'm ever in Pittsburgh I'll have to check it out.

Big Jud's in BoiseI'll go here before I go back to 5G.

This place has been on the Food Channel

 

[Apple Jack]

Moe's > Chipotle

 

[Nipsey]

I just called the local 5Guys, told them I was Nipsey with footballguys news. Asked them about the smell in the place and the manager replied, "that distinctive smell is the freshest ingredients being cooked to perfection. There's nothing like the smell of a perfectly cooked burger and fries." I asked about the lights but we got cut off before he could respond.

 

[identikit]

I just called the local 5Guys, told them I was Nipsey with footballguys news. Asked them about the smell in the place and the manager replied, "that distinctive smell is the freshest ingredients being cooked to perfection. There's nothing like the smell of a perfectly cooked burger and fries." I asked about the lights but we got cut off before he could respond.

 

[Wingnut]

This thread is ridiculous.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I've never been greeted when walking into a Five Guys.

I think he's thinking of Jimmy John's.

The hell I am...

You are the guy that tried to convince me for 90 minutes that Sabarro's was "known for" selling two pizzas smashed together, right? That was you, right?

I honestly thought that's what I was buying 15 years ago when I was a poor college student and considered Sabarro a luxury item....all I remember was two slices of pizza folded on top of one another. If I went their weekly like you, I might have a fresher memory. I've never been to Jimmy John's.

Dude, it's a stuffed pizza. It has the toppings on the inside. They didn't just flip over a pizza on top of another one.

Ever have a Double Decker's Inside Out Pizza? It's fried.http://www.google.com/imgres?q=double+decker+inside+out+fried+pizza&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=5i9&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&biw=1920&bih=950&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=TYLLetJ4_nar9M:&imgrefurl=http://doubledeckerpizza.com/&docid=Zf-KPLguMstkJM&imgurl=http://doubledeckerpizza.com/image/1.jpg&w=450&h=300&ei=9oHjT-7sHdGi0gHKy4TvCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=335&sig=114922193544260917600&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:86&tx=69&ty=82

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Whatever guys. http://www.burgatorybar.com/ is better than In and Out and has way better shakes. Plus there is a bar with TVs there and it's in Pittsburgh. Everytime I am over near the waterworks mall, I go there. I even bring my friends.

Looks good. If I'm ever in Pittsburgh I'll have to check it out.

I actually think they have a stand at the Consol Energy Center for Penguins games now as well. If you're into hockey.

 

[The Commish]

Moe's > Chipotle

Q'Doba > Moe's > Chipotle

 

[Zegras11]

Moe's > Chipotle

Q'Doba > Moe's > Chipotle

QDoba was sued by Chipotle. They had to change a few things. I like them a little better than Chipotle though.Never seen a Moe's.

 

[flapgreen]

Headed down to 5 guys tonight for the first time in a few months. I'll pay more attention to the liquidated Gahndi smell.

 

[Nipsey]

I've never been greeted when walking into a Five Guys.

I think he's thinking of Jimmy John's.

The hell I am...

You are the guy that tried to convince me for 90 minutes that Sabarro's was "known for" selling two pizzas smashed together, right? That was you, right?

I honestly thought that's what I was buying 15 years ago when I was a poor college student and considered Sabarro a luxury item....all I remember was two slices of pizza folded on top of one another. If I went their weekly like you, I might have a fresher memory. I've never been to Jimmy John's.

Dude, it's a stuffed pizza. It has the toppings on the inside. They didn't just flip over a pizza on top of another one.

Ever have a Double Decker's Inside Out Pizza? It's fried.http://www.google.com/imgres?q=double+decker+inside+out+fried+pizza&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=5i9&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&biw=1920&bih=950&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=TYLLetJ4_nar9M:&imgrefurl=http://doubledeckerpizza.com/&docid=Zf-KPLguMstkJM&imgurl=http://doubledeckerpizza.com/image/1.jpg&w=450&h=300&ei=9oHjT-7sHdGi0gHKy4TvCg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=335&sig=114922193544260917600&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=175&start=0&ndsp=47&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0,i:86&tx=69&ty=82

Vile

 

[Nipsey]

Headed down to 5 guys tonight for the first time in a few months. I'll pay more attention to the liquidated Gahndi smell.

make sure you ask for a "soft call" on the order.

 

[Nipsey]

This just happened:

Thank you for calling 5 Guys, how may i help you?

Hi, this is Nipsey with WFBG Footballguys news. We're doing a story on 5Guys vs. In-n-Out burger and wondering if you have a minute to answer a few questions?

I'm sorry?

I'm calling with WFBG news. Do you have time to answer a few questions?

Wha...What station are you with?

WFBG.

OK. What is the question?

Do you feel the higher price of the 5Guys burger is justified in comparison to In-N-Out?

Um, I think it is higher, um (asks someone else standing there) Do we feel the high price justifies (unintelligible chatter)...who are you calling from?

I'm with WFBG news.

(To someone else) WFBG. (unintelligible chatter) Who is this with?

We work a lot with CYinterview.com. We're web based. Chris yandek, he does a lot of celebrity interviews.

(To someone else) CY.com Chris Yondis for celebrity? (Unintelligible chatter)...Uh, we can't answer this here. Can you call the main offices?

Sure. I was going to call them next.

Oh, OK, good.

Thanks for your time. This is Nipsey, WFBG Footballguys Eyewitness news. Back to you.

(5 second silence) Hello?

Yes, thanks a lot. That went great.

OK, bye.

Take care, Rick.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This just happened:Thank you for calling 5 Guys, how may i help you?Hi, this is Nipsey with WFBG Footballguys news. We're doing a story on 5Guys vs. In-n-Out burger and wondering if you have a minute to answer a few questions?I'm sorry?I'm calling with WFBG news. Do you have time to answer a few questions?Wha...What station are you with?WFBG.OK. What is the question?Do you feel the higher price of the 5Guys burger is justified in comparison to In-N-Out?Um, I think it is higher, um (asks someone else standing there) Do we feel the high price justifies (unintelligible chatter)...who are you calling from?I'm with WFBG news.(To someone else) WFBG. (unintelligible chatter) Who is this with?We work a lot with CYinterview.com. We're web based. Chris yandek, he does a lot of celebrity interviews.(To someone else) CY.com Chris Yondis for celebrity? (Unintelligible chatter)...Uh, we can't answer this here. Can you call the main offices?Sure. I was going to call them next. Oh, OK, good.Thanks for your time. This is Nipsey, WFBG Footballguys Eyewitness news. Back to you.(5 second silence) Hello?Yes, thanks a lot. That went great.OK, bye.Take care, Rick.