I thought he meant the malt vinegar is for the fish, rather than the chips?Ok?Fish 'n Chips (for the "Yes, I really didn't know" crowd)Yes.Malt vinegar is only an acceptable condiment when eating fish 'n' chips.Malt Vinegar or not with the fries?
I like to double dip from the catsup to the vinegar. This is the only place I do this, I think it's from growing up around "Boardwalk Fries" where it seemed like standard practice.Is there some hidden sarcasm that I'm missing, or do people really not know what the "chips" are in fish 'n chips?
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Wat?They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes.Crispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them? Potatoes are one ingredient that makes up a McD's french fry. Comparing them to fresh cut fries is not apples to apples.Wat?They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes.Crispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
How McDonalds fries are madePotatoes are peeledThe consistency certainly helps.I'm also think they soak them in sugar or corn syrup (and water, of course) before they freeze them. There's a hint of sweetness there that most fries don't have. I've done this step at home a couple of times and it does give a remarkably McD's-esque flavor.They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes. I love me some McD's fries thoughCrispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
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Healthier than I expected, actually.For those wondering....http://www.fiveguys.com/media/1960/nutritionalinfo_2010.pdf
'Moe. said:Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.
Interesting. A Boardwalk just opened in the same shopping center as my local 5 Guys, both about half a mile from my place. Haven't tried Boardwalk yet, and wasn't familiar with the franchise and was surprised they opened so close to 5 Guys. I'll have to give them a try.Grew up in DC area, where original 5 guys comes from. Love them, but I'm sure there is a dash of nostalgia that helps there. Boardwalk Burgers and Fries, originally from Ocean City, MD is too legit!!! Their handcut fries are also cooked in peanut oil. If given the choice, I'd choose Boardwalk over 5 guys. Yes the price is high, but some things worth the extra few $$$.
No, it's not. And, I've only eaten there once (in El Paso), but found it to be comparable to Carl's Jr. I thought it was pretty much awful.'Moe. said:Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.![]()
This is, in fact, what In-N-Out does. A delivery of actual potatoes is made to each store every morning, where they're peeled, cut, and fried. (Never frozen.)What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them?
Same with 5GThis is, in fact, what In-N-Out does. A delivery of actual potatoes is made to each store every morning, where they're peeled, cut, and fried. (Never frozen.)What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them?
So you believe frozen potatoes are not real potatoes. Gotchya.What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them? Potatoes are one ingredient that makes up a McD's french fry. Comparing them to fresh cut fries is not apples to apples.Wat?They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes.Crispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
No...frozen potatoes are real potatoes. McD's french fries aren't. Not sure it's as complicated as you're making it.So you believe frozen potatoes are not real potatoes. Gotchya.What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them? Potatoes are one ingredient that makes up a McD's french fry. Comparing them to fresh cut fries is not apples to apples.Wat?They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes.Crispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
This is about the "wrongenest" thing I've ever heard. You either ate at some knock off, had a one in a million bad luck experience, or are completely full of ####. Whataburger is absolutely nothing like Carl's Jr.No, it's not. And, I've only eaten there once (in El Paso), but found it to be comparable to Carl's Jr. I thought it was pretty much awful.'Moe. said:Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.![]()
what are McDs fries made out of? why play so coy?
Let's get all the ingredients laid out here.You're right, actually. It was more like Burger King.ETA: It was awful.ETA2: It was the one on N. Mesa St.This is about the "wrongenest" thing I've ever heard. You either ate at some knock off, had a one in a million bad luck experience, or are completely full of ####. Whataburger is absolutely nothing like Carl's Jr.No, it's not. And, I've only eaten there once (in El Paso), but found it to be comparable to Carl's Jr. I thought it was pretty much awful.'Moe. said:Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.![]()
Stop it already.Few food items are as good as hot, fresh McDs fries. They trump in n outs soggyfries a thousand times over.No...frozen potatoes are real potatoes. McD's french fries aren't. Not sure it's as complicated as you're making it.So you believe frozen potatoes are not real potatoes. Gotchya.What's the problem? Do you think McD's unloads a bunch of potatoes, cuts them up and serves them? Potatoes are one ingredient that makes up a McD's french fry. Comparing them to fresh cut fries is not apples to apples.Wat?They also have the most consistent cut, but we all know they aren't "real" potatoes.Crispy on the outside and mushy (like a baked potato) on the inside is the ultimate, IMO. Of the major chains, McD's is the most consistent with this...Correct...you want just crispy eat a potato chipThey're fried pototoes. If they're not a little mushy, something has gone off the tracks somewhere.![]()
which step in this process turns them from real potatoes to fake potatoes?http://voices.yahoo.com/how-mcdonalds-fries-made-2502884.htmlNo...frozen potatoes are real potatoes. McD's french fries aren't. Not sure it's as complicated as you're making it.
Le says, "The process is quite involved and takes about an hour and a half." He also told me of the more then twenty steps involved, as he verbally walked me through the process. He began with the potatoes, purchased from the farmers and stored in root cellars, being "flumed into the plant." A flume is nothing more than a small stainless steel canal that uses water to move the "product" through the plant and is only one of four methods used.Once flumed inside the plant, the potatoes are peeled through a process of steaming and tumbling. They then move down the line and are rinsed free of any particles left from this phase of the process.The product then moves to the "sizers." The sizers use various sized grates to separate the potatoes by length. The plant follows strict length specifications set by McDonald's. This is only the first of three attempts to comply with those specifications.This product then goes to the "trim line," where "trimmers," who hand cut any defects from it, visually inspect it.The product is then pre-cooked in boiling water for three minutes to soften it in preparation for introduction into a pipe system called the "lamb guns." Here water pressure moves the product through a series of blades, which cut it into French fries.The fries are then deposited in the "wet graders." This is the second attempt to screen out the shorter product.From the wet graders the fries are flumed to the "A.D.R. room." A.D.R. stands for automatic defect removal. The A.D.R. uses blades to re move laser-detected defects.The fries are then flumed out of the A.D.R. room to the "blancher." The blancher is a large vessel filled with one hundred and seventy degree water. The trip through the blancher takes about fifteen minutes and it is here, according to Le, that "the chemicals are added." Le was not sure what all is added, but I later found a pamphlet published in June of 1991 by McDonald's entitled, "McDonald's food: the facts." It states that both dextrose and sodium acid pyrophosphate are added here to enhance color, as well as to protect the flavor, of the finished product.After the fries leave the blancher, they are dried and then it's off to the "fryer," which is filled with one hundred percent vegetable oil. The oil is heated to three hundred and sixty five degrees and the fries take a fifty second dip before being conveyed to the "de-oiler shaker," where excess oil is "shook off."A six-minute wait on the "cooling belt" precedes a transfer to the "freezer belt," which runs the product through a "blast freezer." This phase takes six minutes and drops the products temperature down to, a chilling, fourteen degrees Fahrenheit. The now frozen product is conveyed to "packaging," and dropped onto shakers, which move it over the "frozen graders." This is the third attempt to meet length specifications set by McDonald's.
I posted the same link and a quick rundown about 15 posts up...which step in this process turns them from real potatoes to fake potatoes?http://voices.yahoo.com/how-mcdonalds-fries-made-2502884.htmlNo...frozen potatoes are real potatoes. McD's french fries aren't. Not sure it's as complicated as you're making it.

They're essentially just potatoes and preservatives fried in vegetable oil.I don't think adding chemical preservatives transforms the potatoes into non-potatoes, but it does change the nature of the potatoes. A homemade french fry will decompose after a few months, butNo reason to get caught up in semantics here.
I doubt Commish is denying that there are potatoes somewhere in McD's fries, though saying they "aren't real potatoes" makes it sound like that's what he means.
Why don't we just call it "potatoes with a whole bunch of other crap" and be done with it?
Here is the ingredient list per McD's website.
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
*(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).
If something tastes a hundred times better than a soggy, lemming followed In n Out product maybe we should call it better than the most overrated chain ever?They're essentially just potatoes and preservatives fried in vegetable oil.I don't think adding chemical preservatives transforms the potatoes into non-potatoes, but it does change the nature of the potatoes. A homemade french fry will decompose after a few months, butNo reason to get caught up in semantics here.
I doubt Commish is denying that there are potatoes somewhere in McD's fries, though saying they "aren't real potatoes" makes it sound like that's what he means.
Why don't we just call it "potatoes with a whole bunch of other crap" and be done with it?
Here is the ingredient list per McD's website.
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
*(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).
Scroll up. It's processed potatoes, chemicals and sugar. This has been covered.what are McDs fries made out of? why play so coy?
No reason to get caught up in semantics here.
I doubt Commish is denying that there are potatoes somewhere in McD's fries, though saying they "aren't real potatoes" makes it sound like that's what he means.
Why don't we just call it "potatoes with a whole bunch of other crap" and be done with it?
Here is the ingredient list per McD's website.
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
*(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).
Thanks Pollard! It scares me that a lot of you have no idea what the hell you are putting in your bodies. I never said there were no potatoes. I acknowledged in my first post about it that there were. I never made any comment one way or the other that they were "good" or not. I think they are fantastic by the way, but only when hot. They get mushy out of the grease. But they aren't just potatoes. They are a science experiment that turned out very well. Comparing them to potatoes that were simply cut up, fried and sprinkled with salt/seasoning is foolish as it pertains to this conversation. It's like comparing a McD's hamburger to one you grill in your back yard yourself.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real". Moving on...No reason to get caught up in semantics here.
I doubt Commish is denying that there are potatoes somewhere in McD's fries, though saying they "aren't real potatoes" makes it sound like that's what he means.
Why don't we just call it "potatoes with a whole bunch of other crap" and be done with it?
Here is the ingredient list per McD's website.
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil (Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness). Dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent.
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK.
*(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).Thanks Pollard! It scares me that a lot of you have no idea what the hell you are putting in your bodies. I never said there were no potatoes. I acknowledged in my first post about it that there were. I never made any comment one way or the other that they were "good" or not. I think they are fantastic by the way, but only when hot. They get mushy out of the grease. But they aren't just potatoes. They are a science experiment that turned out very well. Comparing them to potatoes that were simply cut up, fried and sprinkled with salt/seasoning is foolish as it pertains to this conversation. It's like comparing a McD's hamburger to one you grill in your back yard yourself.
Only in the FFA will you see a bitter debate over french fries.![]()
Well, potatoes are kind of like boobs.When a woman adds silicone to her boobs, they are no longer real. When a restaurant adds dimethylpolysiloxane and sodium acid pyrophosphate to its potatoes, they are no longer real.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real".
Who doesn't enjoy fake boobs? Rather fake boobs than soggy, flappy, decomposed boobs myself.Only in the FFA will you see a bitter debate over french fries.
Well, potatoes are kind of like boobs.When a woman adds silicone to her boobs, they are no longer real. When a restaurant adds sodium acid pyrophosphate and dimethylpolysiloxane to his potatoes, they are no longer real.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real".
Yes, when it comes to boobs and potatoes, lusciousness and authenticity are separate issues.Who doesn't enjoy fake boobs? Rather fake boobs than soggy, flappy, decomposed boobs myself.Only in the FFA will you see a bitter debate over french fries.
Well, potatoes are kind of like boobs.When a woman adds silicone to her boobs, they are no longer real. When a restaurant adds sodium acid pyrophosphate and dimethylpolysiloxane to his potatoes, they are no longer real.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real".
Only in the FFA will you see a bitter debate over french fries.
Well, potatoes are kind of like boobs.When a woman adds silicone to her boobs, they are no longer real. When a restaurant adds dimethylpolysiloxane and sodium acid pyrophosphate to its potatoes, they are no longer real.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real".
If McDonalds pumped their fries full of stuff to make them bigger and more visually appealing, I'd agree with this, but this is closer to real boobs with sunblock on them. Its applied on the outside to preserve the boob and keep its natural look and feel, which is pretty much what the fry additives do to the fries.They fried them in beef tallow, which is how french fries are traditionally made. Now everyone uses vegetable oil because it's way cheaper, contains far less saturated fat, and won't be boycotted by vegetarians.Wasn't the Mickey D's move to soak the fries in beef tallow for a period of time?
I just crapped mine.Wasn't the Mickey D's move to soak the fries in beef tallow for a period of time? Then when people realized how bad the things were for you they found a "healthier", chemically concocted way to mimic that taste?
I was sitting in a waiting room today and some lady brought her two 4ish year old kids with her and the kids were scarfing down fries and mcnuggets. They didn't finish all of it and after about 15 minutes the stench in the place became unbearable. One of the kids may have crapped his pants as well.

I love "pure" potatoes.In hindsight, I really should have remembered the audience and used "pure" or "simply". For that I apologize. I figured putting "real" in quotes would have those understand that I'm not talking about real/fake. Again, I apologize.
I prefer mine unmolested.I love "pure" potatoes.In hindsight, I really should have remembered the audience and used "pure" or "simply". For that I apologize. I figured putting "real" in quotes would have those understand that I'm not talking about real/fake. Again, I apologize.
I like to think of them as "virgin potatoes".I prefer mine unmolested.I love "pure" potatoes.In hindsight, I really should have remembered the audience and used "pure" or "simply". For that I apologize. I figured putting "real" in quotes would have those understand that I'm not talking about real/fake. Again, I apologize.
The boobs are still real, they simply contain additional ingredients.On ducks - If a duck stops behaving like a normal duck because we give him drugs, he's still genetically a duck right?Only in the FFA will you see a bitter debate over french fries.
Well, potatoes are kind of like boobs.When a woman adds silicone to her boobs, they are no longer real. When a restaurant adds dimethylpolysiloxane and sodium acid pyrophosphate to its potatoes, they are no longer real.Nobody said you said there were no potatoes in them. The question was what makes them not "real potatoes". I couldnt care less about the comparisons with other chains, or whether or not theyre good, I was wondering why frozen potatoes with additives werent "real potatoes" in your opinion. Just because theyre not fresh made on site from raw potatoes doesnt make them "not real".
Agreed. Had them once when passing through Texas. It wasn't very good.You're right, actually. It was more like Burger King.ETA: It was awful.ETA2: It was the one on N. Mesa St.This is about the "wrongenest" thing I've ever heard. You either ate at some knock off, had a one in a million bad luck experience, or are completely full of ####. Whataburger is absolutely nothing like Carl's Jr.No, it's not. And, I've only eaten there once (in El Paso), but found it to be comparable to Carl's Jr. I thought it was pretty much awful.Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.![]()
Is that the place with the big ### buns? Was looking forward to trying them on a visit to Tulsa, and was so disappointed. Same with my first visit to Sonic. :XAgreed. Had them once when passing through Texas. It wasn't very good.You're right, actually. It was more like Burger King.ETA: It was awful.ETA2: It was the one on N. Mesa St.This is about the "wrongenest" thing I've ever heard. You either ate at some knock off, had a one in a million bad luck experience, or are completely full of ####. Whataburger is absolutely nothing like Carl's Jr.No, it's not. And, I've only eaten there once (in El Paso), but found it to be comparable to Carl's Jr. I thought it was pretty much awful.Is Whataburger a national chain? I prefer Whataburger to both Five Guys and In-N-Out.![]()
A McD's billboard around here says "The Potato......Perfected" (picture of a potato under the former, pic of McD's fries under the latter).So, I guess other fries can simply be referred to as "Imperfect Potatoes"I like to think of them as "virgin potatoes".I prefer mine unmolested.I love "pure" potatoes.In hindsight, I really should have remembered the audience and used "pure" or "simply". For that I apologize. I figured putting "real" in quotes would have those understand that I'm not talking about real/fake. Again, I apologize.