Five Guys thread, a 130+ page swordfight. (1 Viewer)

[Chaka]

Not really but keep pushing that point because it seems to be sticking.

not really?

do I have to go back and bump all the posts that said something similar?

"It costs $14 for a burger and fries at 5G!? OMG! WTF? How dare they? They should all be arrested. That must be how they pay for all those free peanuts that nobody ever eats."

That is exactly the hyperbolic stuff that I am talking about. Are people really saying that it "isn't possible" or "how dare they"? No, the theme has been that it is generally over $10 for a single person but if you make certain efforts you can bring your cost down to just under $10. In case people were wondering, I don't consider that to be a great value proposition, even if I do consider it to be a tasty burger.

I am really just pointing out that, outside of the funny stuff, this thread has had a significantly more measured tone than what you are occasionally throwing out there.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen.

they aren't?

http://www.fiveguys.com/about-us.aspx

Facts

• There are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at Five Guys.
• We use only fresh ground beef.
• There are no freezers in Five Guys locations, just coolers. Nothing is ever frozen.
• We use only Peanut oil.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

The magic to our hamburgers is quality control. We toast our buns on a grill -- a bun toaster is faster, cheaper, and toasts more evenly, but it doesn't give you that caramelized taste. Our beef is 80 percent lean, never frozen, and our plants are so clean, you could eat off the floor. The burgers are made to order -- you can choose from 17 toppings. That's why we can't do drive-throughs -- it takes too long. We had a sign: "If you're in a hurry, there are a lot of really good hamburger places within a short distance from here." People thought I was nuts. But the customers appreciated it.

We have never solicited reviews. That's a policy. Yet we have hundreds of them. If we put one frozen thing in our restaurant, we'd be done. That's why we won't do milk shakes. For years, people have been asking for them! But we'd have to do real ice cream and real milk.

 

[Keerock]

Seriously guys, there's no need to debate the name. It has name and even a wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_casual_restaurant

 

[shader]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

ZOMG GREATEST FOOD EVAARRRRRR

In-N-Out

This is what we're arguing.

I've been once. If there was an In-N-Out close to me, I'm sure it would break my rotation. But if I ever go back to Dallas on business, I'm not making a special 15 mile trip to find one like I did last time. It's not worth it.

 

[Rayderr]

Shouldn't a huge national chain be able to bring their prices down just a tad to be competitive?

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen. I am pretty sure they are pulling from similar food sources as all the other national chains.

I do admire that they have a very solid word of mouth marketing campaign going...kind of reminds me of In-N-Out.

Well, aside from the whole "never frozen" part of their reputation.

 

[Keerock]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

ZOMG GREATEST FOOD EVAARRRRRR

In-N-Out

This is what we're arguing.

I've been once. If there was an In-N-Out close to me, I'm sure it would break my rotation. But if I ever go back to Dallas on business, I'm not making a special 15 mile trip to find one like I did last time. It's not worth it.

What's your mileage limit?

 

[Henry Ford]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

ZOMG GREATEST FOOD EVAARRRRRR

In-N-Out

This is what we're arguing.

I've been once. If there was an In-N-Out close to me, I'm sure it would break my rotation. But if I ever go back to Dallas on business, I'm not making a special 15 mile trip to find one like I did last time. It's not worth it.

I eat a burger I don't cook myself about once a month. If there were no Five Guys, I'd consider In-N-Out. More likely, I'd go to a local place.

 

[mr roboto]

I'm absolutely dying laughing thinking of a parking lot full of Mexican families lined up to be picked up by some fat white dudes to help him with his fries. Kinda like day laborers.

 

[shader]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

ZOMG GREATEST FOOD EVAARRRRRR

In-N-Out

This is what we're arguing.

I've been once. If there was an In-N-Out close to me, I'm sure it would break my rotation. But if I ever go back to Dallas on business, I'm not making a special 15 mile trip to find one like I did last time. It's not worth it.

What's your mileage limit?

I'm like most people. I'm usually going to eat in a 5-10 minute radius from where I work.

So if there was a In-N-Out 15 miles away from me in the Nashville area, I don't think I'd ever go.

 

[tom22406]

If they ever do put a In-N-Out near me I would go simply because I enjoyed the burgers.The fries on the other hand were terrible.

 

[Keerock]

I'm absolutely dying laughing thinking of a parking lot full of Mexican families lined up to be picked up by some fat white dudes to help him with his fries. Kinda like day laborers.

Bonus is they get free peanuts too!

 

[Henry Ford]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

 

[shader]

I'm absolutely dying laughing thinking of a parking lot full of Mexican families lined up to be picked up by some fat white dudes to help him with his fries. Kinda like day laborers.

"Hey family, wanna come in and help me bring down my ROI on my food purchase?"

 

[Chaka]

I put Five Guys in a class with places like Panera, Chipotle, etc. They are restaurants but they don't have waiters so you order at a counter and either pick it up when it's ready or they have someone bring it to your table. It's still fast food.

Call it what you want. But Panera, Chipotle and Five Guys are in a different class than McDonald's, Taco Bell and Wendy's, which is why they cost more.

I think that is an excellent point of comparison however when you compete in the burger space you are going to draw comparisons to burger places too.

 

[Keerock]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

 

[shader]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

In-N-Out spread vs McDonald's Big Mac sauce... Is there any difference?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I am really just pointing out that, outside of the funny stuff, this thread has had a significantly more measured tone than what you are occasionally throwing out there.

from my perspective, the prices might be a tad high but not outrageously so compared to other similar options in my area.

others disagree and have different options available to them. not a big deal.

maybe I don't eat fast food burgers as often as everybody else, but to me the price issue is overblown here. and I think there has been a lot of disagreement over what a normal meal costs there, so even though I exaggerated in my post it was based on reading the same type of comments over and over again about how you can't get out of there for $10 or less if you want a burger, fries, and drink.

 

[Henry Ford]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

In-N-Out spread vs McDonald's Big Mac sauce... Is there any difference?

It's probably a slightly higher quality Thousand Island dressing.

 

[shader]

I put Five Guys in a class with places like Panera, Chipotle, etc. They are restaurants but they don't have waiters so you order at a counter and either pick it up when it's ready or they have someone bring it to your table. It's still fast food.

Call it what you want. But Panera, Chipotle and Five Guys are in a different class than McDonald's, Taco Bell and Wendy's, which is why they cost more.

I think that is an excellent point of comparison however when you compete in the burger space you are going to draw comparisons to burger places too.

I disagree. Does Lamborghini compete with Ford because they both make cars?

 

[Henry Ford]

I am really just pointing out that, outside of the funny stuff, this thread has had a significantly more measured tone than what you are occasionally throwing out there.

from my perspective, the prices might be a tad high but not outrageously so compared to other similar options in my area.

others disagree and have different options available to them. not a big deal.

maybe I don't eat fast food burgers as often as everybody else, but to me the price issue is overblown here. and I think there has been a lot of disagreement over what a normal meal costs there, so even though I exaggerated in my post it was based on reading the same type of comments over and over again about how you can't get out of there for $10 or less if you want a burger, fries, and drink.

Wait, are you actually outraged by peoples' opinions in here? I thought we were all just fake arguing.

 

[Henry Ford]

I put Five Guys in a class with places like Panera, Chipotle, etc. They are restaurants but they don't have waiters so you order at a counter and either pick it up when it's ready or they have someone bring it to your table. It's still fast food.

Call it what you want. But Panera, Chipotle and Five Guys are in a different class than McDonald's, Taco Bell and Wendy's, which is why they cost more.

I think that is an excellent point of comparison however when you compete in the burger space you are going to draw comparisons to burger places too.

I disagree. Does Lamborghini compete with Ford because they both make cars?

Tread lightly.

 

[shader]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

In-N-Out spread vs McDonald's Big Mac sauce... Is there any difference?

It's probably a slightly higher quality Thousand Island dressing.

I worked at McDonald's as a youth. I can think of maybe ONE person in my entire time there that ever ordered McDonald's fries with Big Mac sauce.

 

[Politician Spock]

I am really just pointing out that, outside of the funny stuff, this thread has had a significantly more measured tone than what you are occasionally throwing out there.

from my perspective, the prices might be a tad high but not outrageously so compared to other similar options in my area.others disagree and have different options available to them. not a big deal.

maybe I don't eat fast food burgers as often as everybody else, but to me the price issue is overblown here. and I think there has been a lot of disagreement over what a normal meal costs there, so even though I exaggerated in my post it was based on reading the same type of comments over and over again about how you can't get out of there for $10 or less if you want a burger, fries, and drink.

Of course you can. just steal the drink. This was made clear many pages ago.

 

[Henry Ford]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

In-N-Out spread vs McDonald's Big Mac sauce... Is there any difference?

It's probably a slightly higher quality Thousand Island dressing.

I worked at McDonald's as a youth. I can think of maybe ONE person in my entire time there that ever ordered McDonald's fries with Big Mac sauce.

I have it on good authority that In-N-Out is populated by the dregs of humanity. They have terrible ideas.

 

[tom22406]

I bet we can get another 20 pages out of this thread by discussing how awful In-N-Out's "spread" is.

In-N-Out spread vs McDonald's Big Mac sauce... Is there any difference?

In-N-Out is very simple to make by using a combination of mayo, ketchup, pickle relish and a little white vinegar.

 

[Chaka]

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen.

they aren't?

http://www.fiveguys.com/about-us.aspx

Facts

• There are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at Five Guys.
• We use only fresh ground beef.
• There are no freezers in Five Guys locations, just coolers. Nothing is ever frozen.
• We use only Peanut oil.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

The magic to our hamburgers is quality control. We toast our buns on a grill -- a bun toaster is faster, cheaper, and toasts more evenly, but it doesn't give you that caramelized taste. Our beef is 80 percent lean, never frozen, and our plants are so clean, you could eat off the floor. The burgers are made to order -- you can choose from 17 toppings. That's why we can't do drive-throughs -- it takes too long. We had a sign: "If you're in a hurry, there are a lot of really good hamburger places within a short distance from here." People thought I was nuts. But the customers appreciated it.

We have never solicited reviews. That's a policy. Yet we have hundreds of them. If we put one frozen thing in our restaurant, we'd be done. That's why we won't do milk shakes. For years, people have been asking for them! But we'd have to do real ice cream and real milk.

Learn something new every day. Thanks.

I wonder if the 'nothing is ever frozen' comment exclusively relates to in store or anywhere in the process. I ask because the logistics of providing meat that is never frozen to a chain with so many locations would seem to be a very difficult proposition. It would certainly explain a bit about their price point.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Wait, are you actually outraged by peoples' opinions in here? I thought we were all just fake arguing.

not at all.

I get more laughs out of this thread than any other these days. Nipsey and GM in the same thread is always a good thing.

 

[shader]

I thought of a 3rd Five Guys gripe.

They used to fill the bag with fries. Seriously. Those dudes would just pump fries in until the bag pretty much was overflowing.

That doesn't happen anymore. VERY annoying.

 

[Chaka]

Shouldn't a huge national chain be able to bring their prices down just a tad to be competitive?

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen. I am pretty sure they are pulling from similar food sources as all the other national chains.

I do admire that they have a very solid word of mouth marketing campaign going...kind of reminds me of In-N-Out.

I am very open to learning more about their food sourcing (thanks Ruds). For example are their named potato farms not selling to the other guys too?

 

[Henry Ford]

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen.

they aren't?

http://www.fiveguys.com/about-us.aspx

Facts

• There are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at Five Guys.
• We use only fresh ground beef.
• There are no freezers in Five Guys locations, just coolers. Nothing is ever frozen.
• We use only Peanut oil.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

The magic to our hamburgers is quality control. We toast our buns on a grill -- a bun toaster is faster, cheaper, and toasts more evenly, but it doesn't give you that caramelized taste. Our beef is 80 percent lean, never frozen, and our plants are so clean, you could eat off the floor. The burgers are made to order -- you can choose from 17 toppings. That's why we can't do drive-throughs -- it takes too long. We had a sign: "If you're in a hurry, there are a lot of really good hamburger places within a short distance from here." People thought I was nuts. But the customers appreciated it.

We have never solicited reviews. That's a policy. Yet we have hundreds of them. If we put one frozen thing in our restaurant, we'd be done. That's why we won't do milk shakes. For years, people have been asking for them! But we'd have to do real ice cream and real milk.

Learn something new every day. Thanks.

I wonder if the 'nothing is ever frozen' comment exclusively relates to in store or anywhere in the process. I ask because the logistics of providing meat that is never frozen to a chain with so many locations would seem to be a very difficult proposition. It would certainly explain a bit about their price point.

Yes. Yes, it would.

 

[FDAS]

Why the #### is Chaka so concerned about everyone else's wallet?

 

[avoiding injuries]

5G is not a great value for a single eater. For two people, you can get 2 burgers, share an order of fries and get a soda for about $16. That's reasonable.

I've been to INO and did not care for it. It just felt like a lower grade place with low grade food. Maybe it had been too hyped up since there aren't any around me and people like to brag about obscure things that they are familiar with.

I just went yesterday. My one burger and a soda was 11.00. The person with me got small fry, a small burger and soda for about 10.00 give or take. That's 21.00 by my count

Just put the order my wife and I get on their online order page. One cheeseburger, one little cheeseburger, one fry and one drink was $16.16.

 

[Rayderr]

I put Five Guys in a class with places like Panera, Chipotle, etc. They are restaurants but they don't have waiters so you order at a counter and either pick it up when it's ready or they have someone bring it to your table. It's still fast food.

Call it what you want. But Panera, Chipotle and Five Guys are in a different class than McDonald's, Taco Bell and Wendy's, which is why they cost more.

5guys Bacon Cheeseburger is only $2 more than Wendy's Baconator. I think we can all agree that it's worth spending that extra 2 bucks since Wendy's has become horrible since Dave died.

 

[tom22406]

Why the #### is Chaka so concerned about everyone else's wallet?

You are missing out on value,damn you!

 

[Chaka]

I put Five Guys in a class with places like Panera, Chipotle, etc. They are restaurants but they don't have waiters so you order at a counter and either pick it up when it's ready or they have someone bring it to your table. It's still fast food.

Call it what you want. But Panera, Chipotle and Five Guys are in a different class than McDonald's, Taco Bell and Wendy's, which is why they cost more.

I think that is an excellent point of comparison however when you compete in the burger space you are going to draw comparisons to burger places too.

I disagree. Does Lamborghini compete with Ford because they both make cars?

Nope. Are you saying that 5G is a Lamborghini burger?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I wonder if the 'nothing is ever frozen' comment exclusively relates to in store or anywhere in the process. I ask because the logistics of providing meat that is never frozen to a chain with so many locations would seem to be a very difficult proposition. It would certainly explain a bit about their price point.

Unless they are lying, I'm pretty sure 'never frozen' means never and doesn't just refer to what happens when it reaches the stores.

They make hand-formed burgers with fresh ingredients. Doesn't seem completely fair to compare their prices with other places that take shortcuts.

 

[Henry Ford]

Shouldn't a huge national chain be able to bring their prices down just a tad to be competitive?

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen. I am pretty sure they are pulling from similar food sources as all the other national chains.

I do admire that they have a very solid word of mouth marketing campaign going...kind of reminds me of In-N-Out.

I am very open to learning more about their food sourcing (thanks Ruds). For example are their named potato farms not selling to the other guys too?

This is the source of all Five Guys potatoes: http://rickmilesproduce.com/

 

[Pipes]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

Put McDonalds in the crap category and we're good. My daughter did an experiment for school where we left a McDonalds cheeseburger sitting out on our kitchen counter on a paper plate. After a month the burger looked almost the same as it did day 1. No mold nothing...the only noticeable thing was the burger shrunk a tiny bit. I won't eat that disgusting crap ever after seeing that. My kids used to love McDonalds and haven't requested us going there since.

 

[tom22406]

Can we get back to how disgusting In-N-Out fries are?

 

[Chaka]

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen.

they aren't?

http://www.fiveguys.com/about-us.aspx

Facts

• There are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at Five Guys.
• We use only fresh ground beef.
• There are no freezers in Five Guys locations, just coolers. Nothing is ever frozen.
• We use only Peanut oil.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

The magic to our hamburgers is quality control. We toast our buns on a grill -- a bun toaster is faster, cheaper, and toasts more evenly, but it doesn't give you that caramelized taste. Our beef is 80 percent lean, never frozen, and our plants are so clean, you could eat off the floor. The burgers are made to order -- you can choose from 17 toppings. That's why we can't do drive-throughs -- it takes too long. We had a sign: "If you're in a hurry, there are a lot of really good hamburger places within a short distance from here." People thought I was nuts. But the customers appreciated it.

We have never solicited reviews. That's a policy. Yet we have hundreds of them. If we put one frozen thing in our restaurant, we'd be done. That's why we won't do milk shakes. For years, people have been asking for them! But we'd have to do real ice cream and real milk.

Learn something new every day. Thanks.

I wonder if the 'nothing is ever frozen' comment exclusively relates to in store or anywhere in the process. I ask because the logistics of providing meat that is never frozen to a chain with so many locations would seem to be a very difficult proposition. It would certainly explain a bit about their price point.

Yes. Yes, it would.

Y'know In-N-Out...

Never mind.

 

[Henry Ford]

Can we get back to how disgusting In-N-Out fries are?

"Just pour Thousand Island dressing on them"

 

[tom22406]

Can we get back to how disgusting In-N-Out fries are?

"Just pour Thousand Island dressing on them"

I mean,seriously,they cut the damn things fresh and still #### them up.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Had a great burger at Miller's Bar in Dearborn, MI yesterday. You should all go there.

 

[Henry Ford]

It's not like they are committed to using locally sourced ingredients that are never frozen.

they aren't?

http://www.fiveguys.com/about-us.aspx

Facts

• There are over 250,000 possible ways to order a burger at Five Guys.
• We use only fresh ground beef.
• There are no freezers in Five Guys locations, just coolers. Nothing is ever frozen.
• We use only Peanut oil.

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

The magic to our hamburgers is quality control. We toast our buns on a grill -- a bun toaster is faster, cheaper, and toasts more evenly, but it doesn't give you that caramelized taste. Our beef is 80 percent lean, never frozen, and our plants are so clean, you could eat off the floor. The burgers are made to order -- you can choose from 17 toppings. That's why we can't do drive-throughs -- it takes too long. We had a sign: "If you're in a hurry, there are a lot of really good hamburger places within a short distance from here." People thought I was nuts. But the customers appreciated it.

We have never solicited reviews. That's a policy. Yet we have hundreds of them. If we put one frozen thing in our restaurant, we'd be done. That's why we won't do milk shakes. For years, people have been asking for them! But we'd have to do real ice cream and real milk.

Learn something new every day. Thanks.

I wonder if the 'nothing is ever frozen' comment exclusively relates to in store or anywhere in the process. I ask because the logistics of providing meat that is never frozen to a chain with so many locations would seem to be a very difficult proposition. It would certainly explain a bit about their price point.

Yes. Yes, it would.

Y'know In-N-Out...

Never mind.

Derives over half of the protein in its double double from the bun? Yes. I did know that.

*Yes, I know that's not actually true.

 

[shader]

5G is not a great value for a single eater. For two people, you can get 2 burgers, share an order of fries and get a soda for about $16. That's reasonable.

I've been to INO and did not care for it. It just felt like a lower grade place with low grade food. Maybe it had been too hyped up since there aren't any around me and people like to brag about obscure things that they are familiar with.

I just went yesterday. My one burger and a soda was 11.00. The person with me got small fry, a small burger and soda for about 10.00 give or take. That's 21.00 by my count

Just put the order my wife and I get on their online order page. One cheeseburger, one little cheeseburger, one fry and one drink was $16.16.

You are doing it wrong

 

[tom22406]

Had a great burger at Miller's Bar in Dearborn, MI yesterday. You should all go there.

About as close as an In-N-Out is for me.I'm down!

 

[Chaka]

Why the #### is Chaka so concerned about everyone else's wallet?

Link

 

[shader]

I can't believe that Five Guys sells a delicious bacon cheeseburger for 6.99 and you have a thread full of cheap-skates criticizing them for it.

 

[Henry Ford]

I can't believe that Five Guys sells a delicious bacon cheeseburger for 6.99 and you have a thread full of cheap-skates criticizing them for it.

You can't get bacon at In-N-Out. Therefore it must not be tasty.

 

[shader]

I can't believe that Five Guys sells a delicious bacon cheeseburger for 6.99 and you have a thread full of cheap-skates criticizing them for it.

You can't get bacon at In-N-Out. Therefore it must not be tasty.

A non-bacon cheeseburger at Five Guys is 6.09! The outrage!