Five Guys thread, a 130+ page swordfight. (4 Viewers)

[Chaka]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

 

[Rayderr]

Crap Fast Food

Jack in the Box

Hardees

KFC

Medium Fast Food

McDonald's

Wendy's

Popeye's

High End Fast Food

Panera

Chipotle

Five Guys

Is this what you guys are arguing?

Put McDonalds in the crap category and we're good. My daughter did an experiment for school where we left a McDonalds cheeseburger sitting out on our kitchen counter on a paper plate. After a month the burger looked almost the same as it did day 1. No mold nothing...the only noticeable thing was the burger shrunk a tiny bit. I won't eat that disgusting crap ever after seeing that. My kids used to love McDonalds and haven't requested us going there since.

They did that as one of the extras on "Supersize Me." The fries lasted an awfully long time.

 

[shader]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

Five Guys has cheese fries???? OH man I did not need to hear that.

 

[tom22406]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

Nobody shouting at you from what I've seen but if you're gonna argue against Five Guys at least learn a little about them first.Go fishing trip for you I guess

 

[pollardsvision]

5G is not a great value for a single eater. For two people, you can get 2 burgers, share an order of fries and get a soda for about $16. That's reasonable.

I've been to INO and did not care for it. It just felt like a lower grade place with low grade food. Maybe it had been too hyped up since there aren't any around me and people like to brag about obscure things that they are familiar with.

I just went yesterday. My one burger and a soda was 11.00. The person with me got small fry, a small burger and soda for about 10.00 give or take. That's 21.00 by my count

Just put the order my wife and I get on their online order page. One cheeseburger, one little cheeseburger, one fry and one drink was $16.16.

You are doing it wrong

Yeah, you gotta get the regular double and split it for 2. Well, unless you're a fattie.

 

[tom22406]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

Five Guys has cheese fries???? OH man I did not need to hear that.

Some do and some don't so make sure and ask next time you are in.

 

[NCCommish]

Not really but keep pushing that point because it seems to be sticking.

not really?do I have to go back and bump all the posts that said something similar?

"It costs $14 for a burger and fries at 5G!? OMG! WTF? How dare they? They should all be arrested. That must be how they pay for all those free peanuts that nobody ever eats."

Your forgot about bringing the small Mexican family necessary to bring the average cost per person down.

Pretty sure NCCommish's lunch buddy was alone and paid $10 (according to eyewitness testimony we've heard in this very thread). She may or may not have been Mexican but I don't think her family was brought along.

He said they threw food away.

Yes we threw away fries.

 

[NCCommish]

5G is not a great value for a single eater. For two people, you can get 2 burgers, share an order of fries and get a soda for about $16. That's reasonable.

I've been to INO and did not care for it. It just felt like a lower grade place with low grade food. Maybe it had been too hyped up since there aren't any around me and people like to brag about obscure things that they are familiar with.

I just went yesterday. My one burger and a soda was 11.00. The person with me got small fry, a small burger and soda for about 10.00 give or take. That's 21.00 by my count

21 bucks for two people is pretty standard pricing at any decent restaurant. If you want less, eat fast food.

This is supposed to be fast food not a restaurant. Restaurants have waitstaff just to point to one difference. Here I pay restaurant prices and get no restaurant perks.

Not all restaurants have waitstaff. Lots of places like this where you order food at a counter and pick your own table, then throw stuff away when you leave.

Yeah I got one down the street. I can get a full meal(main and two sides) and a drink and still spend less than I do at 5G.

Please start a thread about them. It will be epic.

I don't know why I'd bother since most of you live nowhere near it.

 

[Henry Ford]

5G is not a great value for a single eater. For two people, you can get 2 burgers, share an order of fries and get a soda for about $16. That's reasonable.

I've been to INO and did not care for it. It just felt like a lower grade place with low grade food. Maybe it had been too hyped up since there aren't any around me and people like to brag about obscure things that they are familiar with.

I just went yesterday. My one burger and a soda was 11.00. The person with me got small fry, a small burger and soda for about 10.00 give or take. That's 21.00 by my count

21 bucks for two people is pretty standard pricing at any decent restaurant. If you want less, eat fast food.

This is supposed to be fast food not a restaurant. Restaurants have waitstaff just to point to one difference. Here I pay restaurant prices and get no restaurant perks.

Not all restaurants have waitstaff. Lots of places like this where you order food at a counter and pick your own table, then throw stuff away when you leave.

Yeah I got one down the street. I can get a full meal(main and two sides) and a drink and still spend less than I do at 5G.

Please start a thread about them. It will be epic.

I don't know why I'd bother since most of you live nowhere near it.

That is an interesting point.

 

[pollardsvision]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

Five Guys has cheese fries???? OH man I did not need to hear that.

Some do and some don't so make sure and ask next time you are in.

Apparently, you can also get a patty melt, which I assume is just that ####ty bun flipped inside out.

 

[Henry Ford]

Interview with the founder:

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

There was this little hamburger place where I grew up in northern Michigan. Almost everyone in our town, except the uppity uppities, ate the burgers. Even though the owner had a cat, which he'd pet while cooking. People called them fur burgers, but they still ate them because they were good.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This thread needs to go away!!

I'm gonna wind up eating Five Guys 3x a ####### week

 

[tom22406]

Interview with the founder:

http://www.inc.com/magazine/20100401/jerry-murrell-five-guys-burgers-and-fries.html

There was this little hamburger place where I grew up in northern Michigan. Almost everyone in our town, except the uppity uppities, ate the burgers. Even though the owner had a cat, which he'd pet while cooking. People called them fur burgers, but they still ate them because they were good.

From same

We figure our best salesman is our customer. Treat that person right, he'll walk out the door and sell for you

Bingo!

 

[Henry Ford]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

from the interview I linked earlier,

We've had many of the same vendors since 1986. And they're not the cheapest by a long shot. We stick with what we like. One day, our purchasing guy said he wanted us to switch to a frozen burger product. But we all picked the fresh one in a blind test and stuck with that. We taste-tested 16 different types of mayonnaise to find the right one.

We make the same bun we started with. We hired the old guy who used to bake our bread for the first store, and one of his partners. They work in the Virginia bakery. We have 10 bakeries scattered around the nation. Our bread is baked daily, picked up by 3 p.m., and put on truck or plane so every store gets fresh bread every morning, even if they are 400 miles away from the nearest bakery.

 

[Captain Quinoa]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

from the interview I linked earlier,

We taste-tested 16 different types of mayonnaise to find the right one.

:X this would be my personal hell

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

some of the franchise information is interesting:

When we started to sell franchises in 2002, Virginia went in three days. We accept only financially sound franchisees who can weather the storms without the help of banks.

We make 6 percent of sales on the franchises. All franchises work the same way: People say they want to sell your product. So you give them a Franchise Development Agreement that explains all the ways we can beat them down. I don't know if I would ever sign it. We can get out of the deal a million ways, but they are stuck.

Franchisees are opening four new stores a week. But we always wanted to run more than our franchisees, so we can say, "Look, we are doing it." We own 90 stores -- Chicago, San Diego, Phoenix, a bunch in North Carolina and Virginia. We don't do any less than five stores per franchisee. We have one in California that just signed up for 400 stores.

Before we agree to work with a franchisee, Ben and I sit down and talk about our marketing plan. A lot of companies put 3 percent of their revenue toward marketing or advertising -- we collect 1.5 percent from all our franchisees and give bonuses to the crews that score the highest on our weekly audits.

We have two third-party audits in each store every week. One is called a secret shopper -- folks pretend they're customers and rate the crews on bathroom cleanliness, courtesy, and food preparation. Then we have safety audits -- they identify themselves and check all the kitchen equipment. The crews make about $8 or $9 an hour. If they get a good score, they will split another $1,000 among them, usually five or six people per crew. A press release goes out to every store announcing the winners. Right now, it's the top 200 stores. Last year, we paid out between $7 million and $8 million; this year, it will be $11 million or $12 million.

guessing from the comments in here the 400 franchises in California aren't doing as well as they are in other places. Who the heck signed up for 400 stores at once for a state with so many other great options in the same food genre?

Sounds like they pay out quite a bit of money based on those 3rd party audits, which likely helps keep quality up.

 

[Joe T]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

Yes, but why do they suck? If they fixed the bun, I could almost see forking out 8 or 9 bucks for their burger, fries, and a stolen drink.

 

[Henry Ford]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

Yes, but why do they suck? If they fixed the bun, I could almost see forking out 8 or 9 bucks for their burger, fries, and a stolen drink.

I really like their buns.

 

[Joe T]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

 

[Henry Ford]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

 

[Henry Ford]

Question for the In-N-Out crowd:

In-N-Out claims to not have a freezer. In-N-Out claims it makes shakes from actual ice cream. Discuss.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

This thread makes me feel like I saw a package of sea monkeys in a store for $0.19 and said - "hey, what are these?" Went home, put them in some water, then left for vacation and forgot all about them.

Two weeks later, I came home and from 10 blocks away, I could see the glow in the sky and hear the drone of the fire engine sirens. Making the right onto my street, I could see the flashing lights and the U.S. Army tanks as the military and police forces fought in vain against the surging horde. Houses destroyed, body parts strewn about like confetti. The tortured screams of my neighbors as they drowned in their own blood.

 

[Henry Ford]

This thread makes me feel like I saw a package of sea monkeys in a store for $0.19 and said - "hey, what are these?" Went home, put them in some water, then left for vacation and forgot all about them.

Two weeks later, I came home and from 10 blocks away, I could see the glow in the sky and hear the drone of the fire engine sirens. Making the right onto my street, I could see the flashing lights and the U.S. Army tanks as the military and police forces fought in vain against the surging horde. Houses destroyed, body parts strewn about like confetti. The tortured screams of my neighbors as they drowned in their own blood.

Perhaps your sea monkeys can store ice cream without a freezer. I cannot.

 

[Fennis]

This thread makes me feel like I saw a package of sea monkeys in a store for $0.19 and said - "hey, what are these?" Went home, put them in some water, then left for vacation and forgot all about them.

Two weeks later, I came home and from 10 blocks away, I could see the glow in the sky and hear the drone of the fire engine sirens. Making the right onto my street, I could see the flashing lights and the U.S. Army tanks as the military and police forces fought in vain against the surging horde. Houses destroyed, body parts strewn about like confetti. The tortured screams of my neighbors as they drowned in their own blood.

I was expecting this ending

 

[Rayderr]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

 

[Joe T]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

 

[Henry Ford]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

 

[Rayderr]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

I've n ever had an experience with 5 guy burgers where I'm taking bites without there also being bun. Maybe I'm just a more skilled eater than you are. And yes, I do keep my toppings to a minimum. I don't get the people who put an entire garden salad on their burgers.

 

[Joe T]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

 

[Henry Ford]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

Neither does your scenario.

 

[Joe T]

Every time I've been to 5 guys, I run out of bun before finishing the burger. The thing is so soft, I really think some of it evaporates or shrinks up while eating. It's really not desirable.

 

[Henry Ford]

Every time I've been to 5 guys, I run out of bun before finishing the burger. The thing is so soft, I really think some of it evaporates or shrinks up while eating. It's really not desirable.

There is no hope for you.

 

[Henry Ford]

Nice title edit.

 

[Joe T]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

Neither does your scenario.

idavis disagrees with you:

IDavis Jan 29, 2011 11:03 AM

I've eaten at 5 Guys a couple times and while I find their burgers to be very good, they are not as good as In 'n Out's. The flavor of the beef was just OK. The topping choices is what sets 5 Guys apart from other fast food chain burgers.

I do not recommend ordering to go. They wrap their burgers in foil, and while that works well keeping in the heat, it also keeps in all the moisture which makes the bun real soggy.

 

[Henry Ford]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

Neither does your scenario.

idavis disagrees with you:

IDavis Jan 29, 2011 11:03 AM

I've eaten at 5 Guys a couple times and while I find their burgers to be very good, they are not as good as In 'n Out's. The flavor of the beef was just OK. The topping choices is what sets 5 Guys apart from other fast food chain burgers.

I do not recommend ordering to go. They wrap their burgers in foil, and while that works well keeping in the heat, it also keeps in all the moisture which makes the bun real soggy.

Can you maybe explain how that sentence connects with eating a few bites of burger with your fingers and no bun? I'm having trouble.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Nice title edit.

Happened to be listening to that song and felt it was apropos.

 

[NCCommish]

Nice title edit.

 

[Joe T]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

Neither does your scenario.

idavis disagrees with you:

IDavis Jan 29, 2011 11:03 AM

I've eaten at 5 Guys a couple times and while I find their burgers to be very good, they are not as good as In 'n Out's. The flavor of the beef was just OK. The topping choices is what sets 5 Guys apart from other fast food chain burgers.

I do not recommend ordering to go. They wrap their burgers in foil, and while that works well keeping in the heat, it also keeps in all the moisture which makes the bun real soggy.

Can you maybe explain how that sentence connects with eating a few bites of burger with your fingers and no bun? I'm having trouble.

The bun sucks.

 

[Rayderr]

The bun is too soft, flimsy, and small. They could cut down on the extra fries and add about 30% of bun to their bun. Then we might have a real burger here.

Burgers should have more meat than bun.

I agree. I'm eating a burger for the meat, not the bun. 5 guys is there just enough for you to know that you're also eating a bun, but doesn't take away from the meat.

So you like that your last few bites have no bun and you are basically eating cheese, meat, and toppings with your fingers?

What are your feelings on toppings? Do you want those to take away from the meat?

So you like your last few bites to be just bun, with nothing but In-N-Out "spread" on them?

never happens.

Neither does your scenario.

idavis disagrees with you:

IDavis Jan 29, 2011 11:03 AM

I've eaten at 5 Guys a couple times and while I find their burgers to be very good, they are not as good as In 'n Out's. The flavor of the beef was just OK. The topping choices is what sets 5 Guys apart from other fast food chain burgers.

I do not recommend ordering to go. They wrap their burgers in foil, and while that works well keeping in the heat, it also keeps in all the moisture which makes the bun real soggy.

The IDavis?

 

[Steve Tasker]

This thread needs to go away!!

I'm gonna wind up eating Five Guys 3x a ####### week

This thread makes me so hungry.

 

[Chaka]

Five Guys buns ingredients:

flour, eggs, milk and sugar, water, salt, oil, yeast and sesame seeds.

That's it. All of them. No, I don't think that's the same source as the other chains. Primarily because they bake them themselves at a central baking facility.

from the interview I linked earlier,

We've had many of the same vendors since 1986. And they're not the cheapest by a long shot. We stick with what we like. One day, our purchasing guy said he wanted us to switch to a frozen burger product. But we all picked the fresh one in a blind test and stuck with that. We taste-tested 16 different types of mayonnaise to find the right one.

We make the same bun we started with. We hired the old guy who used to bake our bread for the first store, and one of his partners. They work in the Virginia bakery. We have 10 bakeries scattered around the nation. Our bread is baked daily, picked up by 3 p.m., and put on truck or plane so every store gets fresh bread every morning, even if they are 400 miles away from the nearest bakery.

Keep dropping the knowledge please.

 

[FDAS]

This thread needs to go away!!

I'm gonna wind up eating Five Guys 3x a ####### week

This thread makes me so hungry.

Your FB page makes me hungry

 

[Chaka]

Question for the In-N-Out crowd:

In-N-Out claims to not have a freezer. In-N-Out claims it makes shakes from actual ice cream. Discuss.

:headxplode!!11!!:

 

[Henry Ford]

Question for the In-N-Out crowd:

In-N-Out claims to not have a freezer. In-N-Out claims it makes shakes from actual ice cream. Discuss.

:headxplode!!11!!:

It's slightly more expensive to make your claims actually true, and not just FDA true.

 

[Chaka]

Nice title edit.

Perfect!

 

[Chaka]

Color scheme? Check

Protein style burger? Check

Fries well done? Check

Secret menu cheese fries? Check

I can't imagine why west coasters would feel that there was a natural comparison between 5G and In-N-Out.

Rabid fans who shout down everyone else? Check

Nobody shouting at you from what I've seen but if you're gonna argue against Five Guys at least learn a little about them first.Go fishing trip for you I guess

I don't think you're quite getting what is going on here.

 

[Nipsey]

I love how the 5G supporters confuse overpriced and poor value with "5 Guys sucks!"

I love out In N Out people still don't realize that they are not an option for most of America.McDonalds is great value too. Doesn't make it a better option than 5G.

How is this true? Same price, actually a bit higher than in-n-out, for vastly inferior food.

The vast majority of the US population lives nowhere near an in-n-out so why do people insist on using them as the standard of every comparison?

You've had it though. You know what it is. What does it matter that you aren't currently right next to one? If someone had never eaten there they wouldn't participate in that part of the conversation. Five Guys isn't in every state maybe we shouldn't discuss that place either? Let's stick to Starbucks and McDonalds. Hey guys, who has better coffee Sbucks or McD's? No, it IS a legitimate question because everyone lives near both of these and per Aaron that is required.

 

[Henry Ford]

I love how the 5G supporters confuse overpriced and poor value with "5 Guys sucks!"

I love out In N Out people still don't realize that they are not an option for most of America.McDonalds is great value too. Doesn't make it a better option than 5G.

How is this true? Same price, actually a bit higher than in-n-out, for vastly inferior food.

The vast majority of the US population lives nowhere near an in-n-out so why do people insist on using them as the standard of every comparison?

You've had it though. You know what it is. What does it matter that you aren't currently right next to one? If someone had never eaten there they wouldn't participate in that part of the conversation. Five Guys isn't in every state maybe we shouldn't discuss that place either? Let's stick to Starbucks and McDonalds. Hey guys, who has better coffee Sbucks or McD's? No, it IS a legitimate question because everyone lives near both of these and per Aaron that is required.

In-N-Out. I swear, it's actual ice cream. Ask the FDA.

 

[Nipsey]

We're comparing I&O and FG because it's an interesting comparison. Who cares that they don't overlap perfectly all over the globe?