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Since the 2nd game of the season, Flacco has been tremendously consistent. In my league's scoring system, he has posted 20+ points eight games in a row and hasn't had a complete dud since week 2. That being said, the match-up against the Saints this week scares me a little bit. In our scoring system, the Saints are allowing just 14.75 fantasy points to opposing QBs - only the Chargers are allowing fewer QB points at 14.10 per game. My back-up is Henne but Kerry Collins is still available on the waiver wire and his match-up against the Texans is incredibly enticing. The Texans are allowing the most points to opposing QBs in our league at 27.70 per game. Still, it's Kerry Collins. Flacco has been my starter all season and this is a case where I don't want over-coaching to cost me a playoff win. I also start CJ, so that complicates things just a bit.

Don't want to turn this into a WDIS thread, but would love to hear some thoughts on what people are expecting from Flacco this week. He's usually not spectacular anyway, but is the Saints' secondary good enough to really negatively impact Flacco's shot at 250 yards and 1-2 TDs? O/U in the Saints-Raven is 43.5 compared to 47.5 in the Texans-Titans. I see that Dodds doesn't like Flacco at all this week, as he's ranked lower than he has been all season - lower than some very mediocre QBs. I try not to put too much stock into rankings, but seeing Flacco that low is a bit disconcerting and puts even more doubt into my head. Oh man, I really don't want to overthink/overcoach in this spot.

 
I think there was a thread in here a few weeks ago that broke it down, but the Saints pass D numbers have been skewed by some pretty awful quarterbacks.

Overall, the corners have not been as effective as last season and the linebackers have struggled in coverage at times. I wouldn't be scared of the matchup myself. Weather and game situations may factor in more strongly though, as I could see the Saints offense struggling early and the Ravens leaning on the running game.

 
Just my .02. Flacco has 4 legit receivers and a great pass-catching RB. I know housh is a disappointment but he, Mason and Boldin are hard to keep covered. And Stallworth is still fast. Collins is pedestrian talent-wise and IMO Houston's pass D looked a bit better on MNF.

 
I'm kind of waiting on more info on Cassell before I make the decision of which of the two to start.

 
I'm not sure I'd roll with a QB like Collins over Flacco, but the Saints pass D is doing their job vs. QBs. I'm not sure it really matters who the talent is they faced at QB, only allowing 8 TDs going into week 15 is a remarkable stat. I don't watch them to know how they are doing it, but it's a stat I find hard to ignore. Especially since I figured opponents would have to throw to get back into games and that would account for some garbage time PTDs. I have Flacco and was amazed by that stat and don't like the match-up.

 
I think there was a thread in here a few weeks ago that broke it down, but the Saints pass D numbers have been skewed by some pretty awful quarterbacks. Overall, the corners have not been as effective as last season and the linebackers have struggled in coverage at times. I wouldn't be scared of the matchup myself. Weather and game situations may factor in more strongly though, as I could see the Saints offense struggling early and the Ravens leaning on the running game.
Good thoughts on weather and the run game. It will really depend on what the NO O does. If they put up a lot of points, I like Flacco's chances to do something with his weapons and nneding to throw, but it's still not a match up I dig.
 
Just my .02. Flacco has 4 legit receivers and a great pass-catching RB. I know housh is a disappointment but he, Mason and Boldin are hard to keep covered. And Stallworth is still fast. Collins is pedestrian talent-wise and IMO Houston's pass D looked a bit better on MNF.
But that was against Flacco! :lmao: LOL. Totally agree with you about Flacco's weapons, but even with them, he rarely has the monster game you'd expect him to.I hear what valhallan is saying about the Saints pass defense numbers being skewed by some bad QBs. Kitna played well against the Saints a couple weeks ago and before that Hasselbeck threw for a ton of yards while playing from behind.Still, that Dodds ranking of 26 scares the crap out of me this week. Is he really that bad of a start? David obviously doesn't like his chances this week. It's not like the Ravens have been running the ball down their opponents' throats this season.
 
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I'm not sure I'd roll with a QB like Collins over Flacco, but the Saints pass D is doing their job vs. QBs. I'm not sure it really matters who the talent is they faced at QB, only allowing 8 TDs going into week 15 is a remarkable stat. I don't watch them to know how they are doing it, but it's a stat I find hard to ignore. Especially since I figured opponents would have to throw to get back into games and that would account for some garbage time PTDs. I have Flacco and was amazed by that stat and don't like the match-up.
:lmao: Don't love the match-up either but benching Flacco for a guy like Collins would be tough to stomach if it ends up being the wrong call and costing me.
 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.

If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.

 
The Saints have been traveling well lately and the backfield is healthy for the most part. IMO it will break down to protection and how much time Flaco will have before Greg Williams gets to him with blitz packages.

 
The Saints have been traveling well lately and the backfield is healthy for the most part. IMO it will break down to protection and how much time Flaco will have before Greg Williams gets to him with blitz packages.
So far the Ravens haven't figured out the safety blitz at all. I don't think the Texans are considered a blitzing D, and even they were getting it done vs. Balt. Monday night.
 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.

If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
Until the Ravens' recent struggles with the blitz, Flacco was actually most effective when being blitzed. Even in the Pittsburgh loss, they handled the blitz more often than they didn't - like the 50-yarder from his own end zone which came on a play where Rice stuffed a Polamalu blitz. His long TD to Mason vs. Houston was also against a blitz.The kind of D that gives Flacco the most trouble is a traditional cover-2. He still doesn't have the confidence to throw into narrow windows down the middle - which explains why Boldin's numbers have suffered this year. But he loves to throw to single-covered WRs on the outside, which is what you get vs. blitzing teams.

Since throwing 4 INTs in week 2 vs. the Bengals' cover-2 defense, Flaccos has thrown 20 TDs and only 3 INTs - despite playing Pittsburgh twice during that span. Not sure why he would suddenly serve up 2-3 INTs in one game after only throwing 3 over the last 11 weeks.

In real life, Flacco's numbers this year are slightly better than Matt Ryan's. In my FF league, Ryan has 3 more points than Flacco. But people still think of Ryan as an emerging elite player and view Flacco as a game manager. Put Ryan in the AFC North and put Flacco in the NFC South and I wonder how they would compare. Only one of them was able to lead a game-winning fourth quarter drive at Pittsburgh this year.

 
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Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
A LOT to think about in that post. Vandy's right. The Ravens have been smoked by secondary blitzers and when you look at the Saints' secondary, its full of great cornerbacks and ball hawking safeties who can blitz. This really has me thinking this will be a game where the Ravens D can do "some" things but not enough and the Ravens will play from behind but never be in that mode of Pass all day.I think this one has 190 yards, 1-2 Tds, 1-2 INTs written all over it. If the rest of your team can cover that and all you need is a solid contribution to win, then Flacco's clearly shown that he won't tank a game for you. Just don't expect him to carry you this week.
 
The Saints have been traveling well lately and the backfield is healthy for the most part. IMO it will break down to protection and how much time Flaco will have before Greg Williams gets to him with blitz packages.
Carson Palmer had a 101 QB rating vs. the Saints in their last road game. Kitna completed 75 percent of his passes for 300 yards in their road game before that.
 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.

If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
Until the Ravens' recent struggles with the blitz, Flacco was actually most effective when being blitzed. Even in the Pittsburgh loss, they handled the blitz more often than they didn't - like the 50-yarder from his own end zone which came on a play where Rice stuffed a Polamalu blitz. His long TD to Mason vs. Houston was also against a blitz.The kind of D that gives Flacco the most trouble is a traditional cover-2. He still doesn't have the confidence to throw into narrow windows down the middle - which explains why Boldin's numbers have suffered this year. But he loves to throw to single-covered WRs on the outside, which is what you get vs. blitzing teams.

Since throwing 4 INTs in week 2 vs. the Bengals' cover-2 defense, Flaccos has thrown 20 TDs and only 3 INTs - despite playing Pittsburgh twice during that span. Not sure why he would suddenly serve up 2-3 INTs in one game after only throwing 3 over the last 11 weeks.

In real life, Flacco's numbers this year are slightly better than Matt Ryan's. In my FF league, Ryan has 3 more points than Flacco. But people still think of Ryan as an emerging elite player and view Flacco as a game manager. Put Ryan in the AFC North and put Flacco in the NFC South and I wonder how they would compare. Only one of them was able to lead a game-winning fourth quarter drive at Pittsburgh this year.
:shrug: Thanks for this. Excellent stuff.

 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
A LOT to think about in that post. Vandy's right. The Ravens have been smoked by secondary blitzers and when you look at the Saints' secondary, its full of great cornerbacks and ball hawking safeties who can blitz. This really has me thinking this will be a game where the Ravens D can do "some" things but not enough and the Ravens will play from behind but never be in that mode of Pass all day.I think this one has 190 yards, 1-2 Tds, 1-2 INTs written all over it. If the rest of your team can cover that and all you need is a solid contribution to win, then Flacco's clearly shown that he won't tank a game for you. Just don't expect him to carry you this week.
This is precisely it. The meat of my team consists of Foster/CJ/Jennings/Welker/SJohnson, so I don't necessarily need Flacco to post a monster game, I just don't want a complete dud from the QB position. And Flacco has done just that (provided consistency) all season long. If I were to start Collins over Flacco and it costs me, that would be really tough for me to swallow. I'm rolling with Flacco. Thanks for the input. Now...Pettigrew or Daniels? :goodposting:
 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
A LOT to think about in that post. Vandy's right. The Ravens have been smoked by secondary blitzers and when you look at the Saints' secondary, its full of great cornerbacks and ball hawking safeties who can blitz. This really has me thinking this will be a game where the Ravens D can do "some" things but not enough and the Ravens will play from behind but never be in that mode of Pass all day.I think this one has 190 yards, 1-2 Tds, 1-2 INTs written all over it. If the rest of your team can cover that and all you need is a solid contribution to win, then Flacco's clearly shown that he won't tank a game for you. Just don't expect him to carry you this week.
This is precisely it. The meat of my team consists of Foster/CJ/Jennings/Welker/SJohnson, so I don't necessarily need Flacco to post a monster game, I just don't want a complete dud from the QB position. And Flacco has done just that (provided consistency) all season long. If I were to start Collins over Flacco and it costs me, that would be really tough for me to swallow. I'm rolling with Flacco. Thanks for the input. Now...Pettigrew or Daniels? :goodposting:
We have close to the same team, Ive got all your meat players except I traded Welker for Moreno awhile back and I just cut Pettigrew and picked up Daniels. But I have almost decided to go with Ben over Flacco. Saints Defense playing away has been keeping qbs quiet, also Flacco doesn't get lots of yardage so the lack of tds let up by the Saints is a concern. Also, teams can run on the Saints and the Ravens should try to do a lot of that unless they get into a shootout or get behind.Carson Palmer 23/33 249 1 0Jon Kitna 30/42 313 0 1Jimmy Clausen 8/18 47 0 1Tony Pike 6/12 47 0 0Matt Moore 3/6 13 0 0Josh Freeman 25/43 219 1 0Max Hall 17/27 168 0 1Alex Smith 23/32 275 1 2I got Flacco for 225 and 1 td 1 int. He shouldn't flop, but his ceiling is really low this week.If you need a higher ceiling with more risk to win I would look elsewhere.
 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.

If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
Until the Ravens' recent struggles with the blitz, Flacco was actually most effective when being blitzed. Even in the Pittsburgh loss, they handled the blitz more often than they didn't - like the 50-yarder from his own end zone which came on a play where Rice stuffed a Polamalu blitz. His long TD to Mason vs. Houston was also against a blitz.The kind of D that gives Flacco the most trouble is a traditional cover-2. He still doesn't have the confidence to throw into narrow windows down the middle - which explains why Boldin's numbers have suffered this year. But he loves to throw to single-covered WRs on the outside, which is what you get vs. blitzing teams.

Since throwing 4 INTs in week 2 vs. the Bengals' cover-2 defense, Flaccos has thrown 20 TDs and only 3 INTs - despite playing Pittsburgh twice during that span. Not sure why he would suddenly serve up 2-3 INTs in one game after only throwing 3 over the last 11 weeks.

In real life, Flacco's numbers this year are slightly better than Matt Ryan's. In my FF league, Ryan has 3 more points than Flacco. But people still think of Ryan as an emerging elite player and view Flacco as a game manager. Put Ryan in the AFC North and put Flacco in the NFC South and I wonder how they would compare. Only one of them was able to lead a game-winning fourth quarter drive at Pittsburgh this year.
Great write up and spot on, thanks a lot. :thumbup: :goodposting:

 
<------------ Worried Flacco owner.

The Saints have only allowed 2 passing touchdowns in a game (Matt Ryan, Week 3 @ Atlanta) once this season. They have surrendered 9 touchdowns (8 pass, 1 rush) to the quarterback position in 2010. Their schedule has included a slew of crappy quarterbacks, but the defensive performance is impressive enough to scare the hell out of me. Sitting on the fence between starting Flacco or Jason Campbell, who I snagged off the WW this week.

 
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I was all set to start Flacco as the safe play but now that Im down 70-0 I figure it makes sense to play Collins and hope him & Britt (who I also am starting) hook up twice. Double pts. I figure I have nothing else to lose now. Is that stupid?

 
I see that Dodds dropped Flacco back down to 18. Looks like everyone is having a tough time deciding what to do this week with Flacco. Personally, if I start Collins over Flacco and it costs me a shot at my fantasy Super Bowl, I would have a really tough time forgiving myself for getting too cute. This is just such a tough call.

 
Unless you own Rogers, you have to play the guy that got you here. Get cute and lose, and you will have a hard time swallowing that pill.

 
Heres what worries me. Gregg Williams is one of the most blitz-heavy DCs in the league. The Ravens over the past month have shown a COMPLETE inability to pick up the blitz, or run any screen-action to slow it down.

If the Ravens can protect him, given their lack of a running game and the Saints ability to score 25+, I see a good game out of him. If they can't protect him though, we're probably looking at a 40/200/1 with 2-3 INT type game though.
Until the Ravens' recent struggles with the blitz, Flacco was actually most effective when being blitzed. Even in the Pittsburgh loss, they handled the blitz more often than they didn't - like the 50-yarder from his own end zone which came on a play where Rice stuffed a Polamalu blitz. His long TD to Mason vs. Houston was also against a blitz.The kind of D that gives Flacco the most trouble is a traditional cover-2. He still doesn't have the confidence to throw into narrow windows down the middle - which explains why Boldin's numbers have suffered this year. But he loves to throw to single-covered WRs on the outside, which is what you get vs. blitzing teams.

Since throwing 4 INTs in week 2 vs. the Bengals' cover-2 defense, Flaccos has thrown 20 TDs and only 3 INTs - despite playing Pittsburgh twice during that span. Not sure why he would suddenly serve up 2-3 INTs in one game after only throwing 3 over the last 11 weeks.

In real life, Flacco's numbers this year are slightly better than Matt Ryan's. In my FF league, Ryan has 3 more points than Flacco. But people still think of Ryan as an emerging elite player and view Flacco as a game manager. Put Ryan in the AFC North and put Flacco in the NFC South and I wonder how they would compare. Only one of them was able to lead a game-winning fourth quarter drive at Pittsburgh this year.
Great write up and spot on, thanks a lot. :kicksrock: ;)
:goodposting: Glad to hear someone explain why Boldin disappears and returns every third week. I am benching Boldin.

 
Count another worried Flacco owner here. Count me double worried since I also have Adrian Peterson and am playing the second place team (I'm first). Now that said I do have another option I'm toying around with, not trying to get cute here as a poster said above but I think this really could be a potential save. I also have Freeman who is playing Detroit. I think that match up is much better for me then Flacco vs. the Saints. What you guys think?

 
Count another worried Flacco owner here. Count me double worried since I also have Adrian Peterson and am playing the second place team (I'm first). Now that said I do have another option I'm toying around with, not trying to get cute here as a poster said above but I think this really could be a potential save. I also have Freeman who is playing Detroit. I think that match up is much better for me then Flacco vs. the Saints. What you guys think?
I think you are way overthinking this. Flacco isn't going to be great but neither is Freeman. Don't fret. Sounds like you have a great team. Try to relax a little, go for a walk. watch a movie. Your team is ready to dominate on Sunday.
 
Count another worried Flacco owner here. Count me double worried since I also have Adrian Peterson and am playing the second place team (I'm first). Now that said I do have another option I'm toying around with, not trying to get cute here as a poster said above but I think this really could be a potential save. I also have Freeman who is playing Detroit. I think that match up is much better for me then Flacco vs. the Saints. What you guys think?
I think you are way overthinking this. Flacco isn't going to be great but neither is Freeman. Don't fret. Sounds like you have a great team. Try to relax a little, go for a walk. watch a movie. Your team is ready to dominate on Sunday.
LOL! Hey if you were playing against McFadden and (maybe) Aaron Rodgers with $1000 bucks on the line you'd worry too... :2cents: However, I hope you're right!! Off to take your advice (and not hex myself) and go for a walk, hehe!
 
Count another worried Flacco owner here. Count me double worried since I also have Adrian Peterson and am playing the second place team (I'm first). Now that said I do have another option I'm toying around with, not trying to get cute here as a poster said above but I think this really could be a potential save. I also have Freeman who is playing Detroit. I think that match up is much better for me then Flacco vs. the Saints. What you guys think?
Me too! I'm thinking Kitna over Flacco. Most likely they'll end up a few points apart but I have more confidence in Kitna vs. an inploding WASh team than Flacco vs. the rising Saints. Who knows? Good luck!
 
QBs vs NO:

Favre- 171-1-1

ASmith- 275-1-2

Ryan- 228-2-0

Clausen- 146-1-0

Hall- 168-0-1 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)

Freeman- 219-1-0

McCoy- 75-0-0 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)

Roethlisberger- 195-0-1 (Ward done early)

Moore/Clausen- 60-0-1 (not sure what happened in this game, gotta check)

Hasselbeck- 366-1-0

Kitna- 313-0-1

Palmer- 249-1-0

Bradford- 231-0-1- 1(rush TD)

What does this tell me? For one theyve played some God awful QBs. The only good ones theyve played were Roeth & Ryan. Secondly, they are very good at not giving up passing TDs. Thats definitely a concern. Third they rarely intercept the ball. Conclusion- Im starting to feel a bit more confident about this matchup for Flacco.

 
shadyridr said:
QBs vs NO:Favre- 171-1-1ASmith- 275-1-2Ryan- 228-2-0Clausen- 146-1-0Hall- 168-0-1 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)Freeman- 219-1-0McCoy- 75-0-0 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)Roethlisberger- 195-0-1 (Ward done early)Moore/Clausen- 60-0-1 (not sure what happened in this game, gotta check)Hasselbeck- 366-1-0Kitna- 313-0-1Palmer- 249-1-0Bradford- 231-0-1- 1(rush TD)What does this tell me? For one theyve played some God awful QBs. The only good ones theyve played were Roeth & Ryan. Secondly, they are very good at not giving up passing TDs. Thats definitely a concern. Third they rarely intercept the ball. Conclusion- Im starting to feel a bit more confident about this matchup for Flacco.
I'm with you shady. We're in the same spot deciding between Flacco and Collins, and I've decided I'm going with Flacco. Despite the match-up, I still think Collins has a greater chance for a dud game.
 
shadyridr said:
QBs vs NO:

Favre- 171-1-1

ASmith- 275-1-2

Ryan- 228-2-0

Clausen- 146-1-0

Hall- 168-0-1 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)

Freeman- 219-1-0

McCoy- 75-0-0 (NO kept giving up defensive TDs in this game)

Roethlisberger- 195-0-1 (Ward done early)

Moore/Clausen- 60-0-1 (not sure what happened in this game, gotta check)

Hasselbeck- 366-1-0

Kitna- 313-0-1

Palmer- 249-1-0

Bradford- 231-0-1- 1(rush TD)

What does this tell me? For one theyve played some God awful QBs. The only good ones theyve played were Roeth & Ryan. Secondly, they are very good at not giving up passing TDs. Thats definitely a concern. Third they rarely intercept the ball. Conclusion- Im starting to feel a bit more confident about this matchup for Flacco.
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL.

Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)

 
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)
Spot on here. Take out the trash QBs and NO is playing pretty much like everyone else defensively. Flacco is going to be one of the better QBs they have faced this year. In addition, if we are all talking about how ineffective the BAL O-Line has been picking up the Safety blitz, I have to think that the coaching staff is aware of it as well.Call me crazy, but I can see this game being closer than what people are thinking.In addition, I have Boldin in the subscriber pool and I need his help. He can't dog me now that I need him! Go Flacco!
 
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL. Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)
Spot on here. Take out the trash QBs and NO is playing pretty much like everyone else defensively. Flacco is going to be one of the better QBs they have faced this year. In addition, if we are all talking about how ineffective the BAL O-Line has been picking up the Safety blitz, I have to think that the coaching staff is aware of it as well.Call me crazy, but I can see this game being closer than what people are thinking.In addition, I have Boldin in the subscriber pool and I need his help. He can't dog me now that I need him! Go Flacco!
I think the bottom line with Flacco is that he's rarely spectacular, but always solid. He disappeared in the second half against Houston when he should have smoked them. I think the issue with Collins is that he most likely will do no worse than Flacco did against Houston with the opportunity for greater upside performance against Houston than Flacco has against NO. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that my decision to go with Collins is right. Big help too that Mario Williams is on IR now.
 
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.

That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL.

Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)
Spot on here. Take out the trash QBs and NO is playing pretty much like everyone else defensively. Flacco is going to be one of the better QBs they have faced this year. In addition, if we are all talking about how ineffective the BAL O-Line has been picking up the Safety blitz, I have to think that the coaching staff is aware of it as well.Call me crazy, but I can see this game being closer than what people are thinking.

In addition, I have Boldin in the subscriber pool and I need his help. He can't dog me now that I need him! Go Flacco!
I think the bottom line with Flacco is that he's rarely spectacular, but always solid. He disappeared in the second half against Houston when he should have smoked them. I think the issue with Collins is that he most likely will do no worse than Flacco did against Houston with the opportunity for greater upside performance against Houston than Flacco has against NO. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that my decision to go with Collins is right. Big help too that Mario Williams is on IR now.
This is what it comes down to IMO. Depending on your team and who you are going up against, Flacco may not have enough upside for you. I only need solid (200 yds, 2 TD). I have Foster, Turner, Garcon, Roddy, Nicks. Those guys have provided the fireworks for me this year. So I'm not running out and picking up Collins.A full year of solid is the same in the long run as a guy who lights it up at times and misses at others. But we're not talking about pre-draft rankings. It's a one-week decision.

Because of the junk QB's NO has faced, I would not discount Flacco as much as the Defensive #'s would indicate. That correction is enough for me to start Flacco and not worry too much about it.

 
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.

That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL.

Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)
Spot on here. Take out the trash QBs and NO is playing pretty much like everyone else defensively. Flacco is going to be one of the better QBs they have faced this year. In addition, if we are all talking about how ineffective the BAL O-Line has been picking up the Safety blitz, I have to think that the coaching staff is aware of it as well.Call me crazy, but I can see this game being closer than what people are thinking.

In addition, I have Boldin in the subscriber pool and I need his help. He can't dog me now that I need him! Go Flacco!
I think the bottom line with Flacco is that he's rarely spectacular, but always solid. He disappeared in the second half against Houston when he should have smoked them. I think the issue with Collins is that he most likely will do no worse than Flacco did against Houston with the opportunity for greater upside performance against Houston than Flacco has against NO. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that my decision to go with Collins is right. Big help too that Mario Williams is on IR now.
This is what it comes down to IMO. Depending on your team and who you are going up against, Flacco may not have enough upside for you. I only need solid (200 yds, 2 TD). I have Foster, Turner, Garcon, Roddy, Nicks. Those guys have provided the fireworks for me this year. So I'm not running out and picking up Collins.A full year of solid is the same in the long run as a guy who lights it up at times and misses at others. But we're not talking about pre-draft rankings. It's a one-week decision.

Because of the junk QB's NO has faced, I would not discount Flacco as much as the Defensive #'s would indicate. That correction is enough for me to start Flacco and not worry too much about it.
This is another dilemma for me. I am down 65-0 already (thanx VJax) and I am also starting Britt. So Collins may be the better high risk/high reward player in my case. But I still cant help the feeling Collins is gonna throw up a dud.
 
Only 5 of those QB's have an solid expectation of starting for their teams next year. And 2 of them are rookies. Hass and Palmer will only be starting due to contract $ or literally no other option.

That's a laundry list of the over-the-hill/bust young QB/backup quarterbacks in the NFL.

Flacco will arguably be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best QB they faced this year! (Ryan/Flacco have similiar stats this year. Big Ben has not been throwing as much this year.)
Spot on here. Take out the trash QBs and NO is playing pretty much like everyone else defensively. Flacco is going to be one of the better QBs they have faced this year. In addition, if we are all talking about how ineffective the BAL O-Line has been picking up the Safety blitz, I have to think that the coaching staff is aware of it as well.Call me crazy, but I can see this game being closer than what people are thinking.

In addition, I have Boldin in the subscriber pool and I need his help. He can't dog me now that I need him! Go Flacco!
I think the bottom line with Flacco is that he's rarely spectacular, but always solid. He disappeared in the second half against Houston when he should have smoked them. I think the issue with Collins is that he most likely will do no worse than Flacco did against Houston with the opportunity for greater upside performance against Houston than Flacco has against NO. Maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that my decision to go with Collins is right. Big help too that Mario Williams is on IR now.
This is what it comes down to IMO. Depending on your team and who you are going up against, Flacco may not have enough upside for you. I only need solid (200 yds, 2 TD). I have Foster, Turner, Garcon, Roddy, Nicks. Those guys have provided the fireworks for me this year. So I'm not running out and picking up Collins.A full year of solid is the same in the long run as a guy who lights it up at times and misses at others. But we're not talking about pre-draft rankings. It's a one-week decision.

Because of the junk QB's NO has faced, I would not discount Flacco as much as the Defensive #'s would indicate. That correction is enough for me to start Flacco and not worry too much about it.
This is another dilemma for me. I am down 65-0 already (thanx VJax) and I am also starting Britt. So Collins may be the better high risk/high reward player in my case. But I still cant help the feeling Collins is gonna throw up a dud.
That's a whole different situation. I actually like that strategy for you...roll the dice and just hope that Collins and Britt can connect for big games. Good luck!
 

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