Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (4 Viewers)

[FootballDummy]

But Zimmerman would have to be a moronic lunatic to initiate the assault knowing a gun was involved.

Are you suggesting there's ample evidence GZ is neither of those things?

Zimmerman is a coward wannabe cop. He maybe a lot of things, but he would not be that stupid. Martin is a wannabe badass fighter who was pissed that someone following him. If I had a million it would all go on Martin initiating the physical assault.

Really? You're not very bright. Although I guess it's easy to make claims on the internet.

 

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jon_mx 724

JFC

 

[jon_mx]

Carolina Hustler 1641Christo 1586timschochet 1064BustedKnuckles 1062jon_mx 724JFC

Says a guy with over 40,000 posts.

 

[Da Guru]

Somehow I knew the Swedish Fish story would lead back to this thread.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Trayvon Martin Case: Handwritten letter from girl reportedly on phone with slain teen made public

(CBS) - A handwritten letter sent to Trayvon Martin's parents by the girl who says she was on the phone with Martin just before the teen was fatally shot has been made public, as part of new filings in the case against George Zimmerman.

PICTURES: George Zimmerman faces murder charge

According to the Orlando Sentinel, the letter was attached to prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda's response to a defense request for sanctions against the state for not revealing that the girl, known as Witness 8, had made false statements.

Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the Feb. 26, 2012 shooting death of Martin. He has pleaded not guilty and says he shot the unarmed teen in self-defense during an altercation in Sanford, Fla.

Martin was visiting his father's apartment complex when he encountered Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watchman, after going to a nearby 7-11 during the NBA All-Star game. On the night in question, Zimmerman called police to report seeing someone suspicious in the complex; he told the operator that there had been break-ins recently in the area.

In the girl's letter to Martin's parents, dated March 19. 2012, she misspells Trayvon's first name twice (referring to him as Trevon). She writes that she was "on the phone with Trevon when he decided to go to the cornerstore [sic]."

She continues: "It started to rain so he decided to walk through another complex because it was raining to [sic] hard. He started walking then noticed someone was following him. Then he decided to find a shortcut cause the man wouldn't follow him. Then he said the man didn't follow him again. Then he looked back and saw the man again. The man started getting closer. Then Trevon turned around and said why are you following me. Then I heard him fall, then the phone hung up."

The Sentinel reports that Witness 8 has been caught in two apparent lies: she reportedly misstated her age and lied about being hospitalized during Martin's wake.

The defense reportedly denied any misconduct regarding its handling of the girl's statements.

Why doesn't she know how to spell his name? Add that to the two lies she has already been caught telling and her credibility is now zero.

Attorneys for George Zimmerman were expected to ask his judge this morning to order the state's most important witness, the young Miami woman who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin just before he was shot, to produce medical records.

However, defense lawyer Don West made a startling claim shortly after the hearing began: The state had revealed, before the hearing, that there are no medical records.

The woman, the defense lawyer said, "misrepresented" in a sworn statement that she missed Trayvon's funeral because she had been hospitalized.

"In fact, she lied," West said.....

Benjamin Crump, an attorney for Trayvon's family, identified her as 16 years old when he played for reporters a recorded interview he conducted with her in March.

But she was 18 at the time and 19 now, O'Mara says.

During that interview by Crump, (she) said she had been on the phone with Trayvon and he said he was scared because a strange man was following him. She said she heard Trayvon and the man come face to face and heard them exchange a few words then the phone went dead.

so shes a liar because she cant spell

No. Perhaps you should read the posts you quoted.

maybe she felt bad for not going to the funeral....ive lied before to get out of going to wakes and such...shes a 16 yo kid...gimmi a break. None of that changes the fact that she knew things that only trey and zimmy would have known.

You really didn't read what you quoted, did you?

oh eXCUUUUUUUUUSsssseeee ME....18 she didnt say she was 16...crump did.

 

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Says a guy with over 40,000 posts.

At least mine are in mostly interesting threads.... 1000+ in this cluster####?!

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

oh eXCUUUUUUUUUSsssseeee ME....18

she didnt say she was 16...crump did.

Feel free to listen to the recordings below and find out for yourself.Recordings of W#8 interview:

http://gzlegalcase.com/index.php/press-releases/78-11th-supplemental-discovery

Some detail here I haven't seen addressed in this thread.

As to Witness 8, I doubt she will be charged with perjury, particularly if the state still intends to use her as a witness. The defense will be able to use her prior statements and misstatements to impeach her, and show the jury why she lacks credibility as a witness.

Here's what she told the prosecutor in her sworn statement:

BDLR: Were you able to go to the funeral or to the wake?

Dee Dee: I was goin’ to go, but…

BDLR: OK, what happened?

Dee Dee: I didn’ feel good.

BDLR: OK, did you end up going to the hospital or somewhere?

Dee Dee: Yeah, I had high blood pressure.

Benjamin Crump on 3/20/12:

In fact, she couldn't even go to his wake she was so sick. Her mother had to take her to the hospital. She spent the night in the hospital. She is traumatized beyond anything you could imagine.

Benjamin Crump and Sybrina Fulton interview with Matt Lauer on the Today Show, March 21, 2012 (available on Lexis.com):

Ms. FULTON: .... She was distraught because of the situation that happened with Trayvon and that--the fact that she was on the phone with him when he--when the incident occurred--right before the incident occurred. So she was very distraught. She had to go to the hospital. She was hospitalized. She also mentioned to us that she had feelings for Trayvon, so it hurt her dearly to know that he has passed away.

Radar online

(unnamed source: "His girlfriend became absolutely inconsolable and had trouble breathing so her mother took her to a nearby hospital emergency room. She had never seen her daughter this upset before, ever. She had a battery of tests, including an EKG, and was there for over 12 hours. Doctors ultimately told her that she was going to be ok, but advised her mother to keep a close eye on her and try to minimize the stress around her."

The audio of the Crump-Witness 8 interview originally provided to the defense in May, as well as the so-called enhanced version have been posted at GZlegalcase.com.I just listened again, and from what I can tell, in part 6, when Crump asks her why she didn't go to the wake, she says she was too sick, she didn't go to school that day. Crump asks what she did, and she says she stayed home, and around 2 pm , her mother took her to the hospital. Crump says “And you had to spend the night in the hospital?” and she says yes. (It seems like Crump, who says he only learned of her identity the day before, already knew this.)

Crump says, "So this made you so sick you had to seek medical attention?” She says "Yeah." And adds, “When I found out I was the last one to be talking to him, I couldn’t believe it.”

In part 7, Crump tells W-8 “Thank you so much, and tell your mother thank you, and Sybrina, Mr. Martin, Trayvon’s mom and dad, their call last week, Oh I do want to say this.” What does that mean? Is he saying her parents called Trayvon’s parents or the Martins called her parents the week before? Crump and Tracy Martin both said they only learned about W-8 on March 18 when Tracy logged onto his T-Mobile Account. Of course, his co-counsel Natalie Jackson told it a little differently on Democracy Now on March 30:

JUAN GONZALEZ: And you’ve had to hire your own investigators because of the terrible job that has been done so far by authorities in ascertaining the facts in this case?

NATALIE JACKSON: Yes. And, you know, I don’t know if it’s a terrible job or just they thought it was inconsequential to do the job. You know, there’s—whether or not it was important to do or it was bungled, we don’t know. But we had to go out and investigate this case. We hired an investigator that got the phone records. And once we saw Trayvon’s phone record, because he was on the—he had his phone with him, and we saw that he was on the phone when this incident purportedly happened. We contacted the person he was on the phone with. It was a young girl. And she told us that she heard Zimmerman approach Trayvon. And this is very extraordinary, because she and Trayvon—according to the phone records, there was a phone call at 7:12. The phone call lasted for four minutes. That would make it 7:16. According to police records, they were on the scene at 7:17, and Trayvon was dead. So, this young girl is a very important witness.

Add to this, the multiple representations by Crump that W-8 was 16 and a minor, which we now know is not true (she was 18 when interviewed by Crump and 18 a month later when interviewed by prosecutors) and that they were dating, While Crump made them out to be Romeo and Juliet, she told the prosecutor when he asked if they were dating, “We were getting there.” If Witness 8 ever makes it to the witness stand, the state will argue these are minor points. It will probably argue the age and dating discrepancies were misunderstandings by Crump, and she was too embarassed to admit to the prosecutor that she hadn’t gone to the hospital as she told Crump. Her lie about the hospital may not directly relate to her final phone calls with Trayvon, but what about her embellishments, such as, when she talked to Crump, there’s no mention of her being able to hear “a little something” like “get off me,” like there is when she told her story to the prosecutor two weeks later? What will the jury think of her not telling anyone that she was on the phone with Trayvon until the Martins called her and told her about the phone records?

How will she answer the defense when, after admitting she didn’t go to the hospital as she told both Crump and the prosecutor, they ask her, “Were you lying then or are you lying now?” If the jury thinks she’s lying about anything, they can disregard her testimony entirely. If they think she (as opposed to Crump) is responsible for the misrepresentations about her age, her health on the day of the wake, the nature of her relationship to Trayvon, her excuse for not coming forward or anything else, how can it not be game over for her credibility on everything?

I'm not sure the state will even call Witness 8. She could be a mine-field. The defense is scheduled to depose her in a few weeks. It will be interesting to see if they display a renewed sense of confidence in their case afterwards.

 

[jon_mx]

Carolina Hustler 1641Christo 1586timschochet 1064BustedKnuckles 1062jon_mx 724JFC

Says a guy with over 40,000 posts.

At least mine are in mostly interesting threads.... 1000+ in this cluster####?!

726 is less than 1000+.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Carolina Hustler 1641Christo 1586timschochet 1064BustedKnuckles 1062jon_mx 724JFC

Says a guy with over 40,000 posts.

At least mine are in mostly interesting threads.... 1000+ in this cluster####?!

726 is less than 1000+.

,,,,i admit im part of the problem lol

 

[Underachievers]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Carolina Hustler 1641Christo 1586timschochet 1064BustedKnuckles 1062jon_mx 724JFC

Says a guy with over 40,000 posts.

Anyone who can lap tim on posts is elite upper tier.

 

[cstu]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

 

[T Bell]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

It would be a #####y thing to say even if they were poor and unemployed.

 

[maxwelledison]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

I don't think donating money to Trayvon's parents added a net $1 million to the economy either.

 

[Underachievers]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

 

[T Bell]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't really know what the point of the question is, but Trayvon would have almost certainly contributed more than $1 million over the course of his life. 20k*50 isn't much.

 

[Christo]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

A settlement with who?

 

[maxwelledison]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

 

[Underachievers]

I don't really know what the point of the question is, but Trayvon would have almost certainly contributed more than $1 million over the course of his life. 20k*50 isn't much.

I would agree. No matter what line of work he chose (legitimate job or drug dealer), it is entirely possible. Although, his life expectancy as a drug dealer would be significantly shorter I would imagine, so he would have to make a much higher amount per year.

 

[Underachievers]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

A settlement with who?

The housing authority where Trayvon's life ended, agreed to a settlement.

 

[T Bell]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

How is it not relevant? It's one of the considerations you make when determining compensation in a wrongful death case, Chachi.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't really know what the point of the question is, but Trayvon would have almost certainly contributed more than $1 million over the course of his life. 20k*50 isn't much.

I would agree. No matter what line of work he chose (legitimate job or drug dealer), it is entirely possible. Although, his life expectancy as a drug dealer would be significantly shorter I would imagine, so he would have to make a much higher amount per year.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

 

[Lutherman2112]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

How is it not relevant? It's one of the considerations you make when determining compensation in a wrongful death case, Chachi.

Trayvon Martin's parents agreed to drop the claim for loss of earnings to reach the settlement, Richard Cranium.

 

[Christo]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

How is it not relevant? It's one of the considerations you make when determining compensation in a wrongful death case, Chachi.

Trayvon Martin's parents agreed to drop the claim for loss of earnings to reach the settlement, Richard Cranium.

Of course they did. The damages in a wrongful death action are for the suffering of the victim between the time of his injury and the time of his death and the damages sustained by the beneficiaries of the victim's estate. While a spouse and/or child would have a claim for the lost earnings which would have supported them in the future, parents usually don't. The parents' claim is for loss of society and companionship. In fact, when a victim is a minor some courts have ruled that the rearing expenses a parent would have spent are deductible from the parents' award for loss of society and companionship.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

How is it not relevant? It's one of the considerations you make when determining compensation in a wrongful death case, Chachi.

Trayvon Martin's parents agreed to drop the claim for loss of earnings to reach the settlement, Richard Cranium.

Of course they did. The damages in a wrongful death action are for the suffering of the victim between the time of his injury and the time of his death and the damages sustained by the beneficiaries of the victim's estate. While a spouse and/or child would have a claim for the lost earnings which would have supported them in the future, parents usually don't. The parents' claim is for loss of society and companionship. In fact, when a victim is a minor some courts have ruled that the rearing expenses a parent would have spent are deductible from the parents' award for loss of society and companionship.

would this settlement have any bearing on the criminal case?

 

[Christo]

Not one bit.

 

[Underachievers]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

 

[mad sweeney]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Wait, I missed something, how much more did the US "decide their lives were worth" and pay to Martin's family than they did to yours? Seems to me that you're still 50K up on them in that matter. Y'know, public vs private and such.

 

[Underachievers]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Wait, I missed something, how much more did the US "decide their lives were worth" and pay to Martin's family than they did to yours? Seems to me that you're still 50K up on them in that matter. Y'know, public vs private and such.

I am up nothing, but it was a great effort at spinning.

BTW...my parents also continued to work, unlike Trayvon's.

 

[the moops]

Holy doosh fest.

 

[mad sweeney]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement. Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working. No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Wait, I missed something, how much more did the US "decide their lives were worth" and pay to Martin's family than they did to yours? Seems to me that you're still 50K up on them in that matter. Y'know, public vs private and such.

I am up nothing, but it was a great effort at spinning. BTW...my parents also continued to work, unlike Trayvon's.

There's no spin necessary. Your family is up 50K. The US may have decided that your brother's life was only worth 50K, but they haven't decided that Trayvon's life is worth anything. Who cares if his parents, or yours, went back to work or not. Different people deal with grief in different ways. If there's even grief to to deal with. I don't believe your story for a second, it just fits your stereotyping, anti-black narrative that you've been vomiting in here far too nicely.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

Trayvon Martin’s mother got 8 months of donated vacation time

Posted on Saturday, 05.12.12 BY FRANCES ROBLES FROBLES@MIAMIHERALD.COMThe mother of slain teenager Trayvon Martin will be able to take about eight months of paid leave from her county job, thanks to the generosity of county employees.

Sybrina Fulton, who has worked at the Miami-Dade County housing authority for 23 years, collected $40,825 worth of donated vacation time, county records show. The paid time off is in addition to the nearly $100,000 the family raised on wepay.com and at rallies, which will be used to launch a criminal justice advocacy foundation in Trayvon’s name.

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“They are using the money to continue the legacy of their son,” said Michael Hall, a graphic designer and marketing specialist who helped launch the Justice for Trayvon Martin Foundation. The parents created the nonprofit in March in response to their son’s killing. “They didn’t want a situation where people could say they were profiting off the loss of their son.”

Hall said Trayvon’s parents will become paid employees of the foundation, compensated for their time conducting speaking engagements and other advocacy work. He stressed that the foundation would keep Fulton and her ex-husband, Tracy Martin, at the levels of income they already made — not higher.

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The first order of business: a movement to repeal the Stand Your Ground laws that exist around the nation. Fulton released a video on Friday, timed for Mother’s Day, on secondchancecampaign.org urging Americans to appeal to their respective governors to eliminate laws that offer increased immunity in self-defense cases.

Hall said the details have not yet been finalized, but Fulton would presumably not begin getting a salary or per diem by the foundation until after her paid county leave runs out. He said he doesn’t know if she plans to leave her county job.

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Tracy Martin is a truck driver, and it’s unclear whether he has been on paid or unpaid leave. He and Fulton were in England this week speaking at the University of London and were unavailable for comment.

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[cstu]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

 

[Christo]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

He didn't understand that confronting a stalker could result in his death?

 

[Fennis]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

A settlement with who?

The housing authority where Trayvon's life ended, agreed to a settlement.

There wasn't a housing authority involved

 

[pittstownkiller]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement. Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Do you think that Trayvon would have contributed $1M (already discounted to present value) to the economy over the course of his lifetime?

Are you serious?

About what exactly? (Answer carefully as this is your golden chance to express moral indignation.)

Since you can't figure it out: are you seriously asking if he would have contributed $1M to the economy over his lifetime? Aside from being a snarky Richard, how is that relevant?

How is it not relevant? It's one of the considerations you make when determining compensation in a wrongful death case, Chachi.

Trayvon Martin's parents agreed to drop the claim for loss of earnings to reach the settlement, Richard Cranium.

Of course they did. The damages in a wrongful death action are for the suffering of the victim between the time of his injury and the time of his death and the damages sustained by the beneficiaries of the victim's estate. While a spouse and/or child would have a claim for the lost earnings which would have supported them in the future, parents usually don't. The parents' claim is for loss of society and companionship. In fact, when a victim is a minor some courts have ruled that the rearing expenses a parent would have spent are deductible from the parents' award for loss of society and companionship.

Could you imagine having to go through that particular exercise, from either side, of a case like this?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

There wasn't a housing authority involved

Retreat at Twin Lakes Homeowners Association

 

[FootballDummy]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

He didn't understand that confronting a stalker could result in his death?

Apparently not. If he confronted him at all. Thanks for adding to the ##### fest.

 

[Christo]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

He didn't understand that confronting a stalker could result in his death?

Apparently not. If he confronted him at all. Thanks for adding to the ##### fest.

No problem, Dummy.

 

[FootballDummy]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

He didn't understand that confronting a stalker could result in his death?

Apparently not. If he confronted him at all. Thanks for adding to the ##### fest.

No problem, Dummy.

You're slipping. Response should have been:

 

[Concept Coop]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Wait, I missed something, how much more did the US "decide their lives were worth" and pay to Martin's family than they did to yours? Seems to me that you're still 50K up on them in that matter. Y'know, public vs private and such.

I am up nothing, but it was a great effort at spinning.

BTW...my parents also continued to work, unlike Trayvon's.

Did your parents have to devote efforts to make sure that the person that murdered their child didn't walk? Or were they placed in the public eye, making them a spectacle at work? Were they followed by reporters?

 

[Concept Coop]

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Man - how lucky to be black AND have your son murdered! These minority parents of murdered children are so lucky!

"Striking resemblance" to a person that doesn't exist, based on skin color?

 

[Christo]

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

Man - how lucky to be black AND have your son murdered! These minority parents of murdered children are so lucky!

"Striking resemblance" to a person that doesn't exist, based on skin color?

Pretty sure that was a reference to Obama's own statements.

 

[kentric]

Trayvon's parents just collected a cool million in a settlement.

Have they gone back to work yet or are they still mourning and living off of Trayvon's good name?

That's a really ####ed thing to say. His parent's weren't bums waiting for someone to kill their son so they could live the high life - his mom had a $69k a year job and his dad was a truck driver. Despite my belief that Trayvon holds some responsibility in what happened there's no need to attack his parents.

Just curious is all. I know they quit their jobs shortly after his death (which is kind of odd in itself) and last I heard they were still not working.

No need to work now though either way. The money train is just warming up for them.

whats YOUR life worth?

Never thought about it to be honest. My brother died while in the military though, and my parents received $50,000. I guess Travon's life was worth considerably more than a serviceman's. But that is one benefit of having a striking resemblance to Obama;s son. .

I'm sorry to hear about your brother but that is the big risk of joining the military and he knew what he was getting into. Trayvon on the other hand was walking home after buying Skittles and didn't know that confronting a guy stalking him would result in his death.

He didn't understand that confronting a stalker could result in his death?

Apparently not. If he confronted him at all. Thanks for adding to the ##### fest.

No problem, Dummy.

You're slipping. Response should have been:

 

[Concept Coop]

Pretty sure that was a reference to Obama's own statements.

Ah. Makes more sense, if so. I missed that.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Man - how lucky to be black AND have your son murdered!

Better than hitting the MegaMillions.