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Damn some of the statements in this are brutal, but rather funny.
Hopefully for the prosecution they'll have more to go on that this. Z could argue that what he meant was that he was going to call the police when he got back to his truck and then meet the cops. He could have assumed they were already in the complex and effectively wouldn't be much difference in time/distance to meet them. It could also be argued that he just misunderstood. This isn't anything of substance IMO and the prosecution would need many more events such as this to put any serious doubt in a jury's mind about Z's veracity.
Yep, is it common to quote passages from Macbeth in legal responses?
.people with an ''agenda'' have been posting crap like this since this case went national...blurry videos of some tall skinny black kid ,saying it was treyvon ,and people falling for it hook ,line and sinker...sad actuallywdcrob said:
That's 1 of the 3 fights, what about the other 2??wdcrob said:
You guys are so desperate you are celebrating evidence that wouldn't have even been used in trial even if it was his friends beating up a homeless guy. I'll wait for you guys to clear the other two videos, one of which is Martin refereeing a fight along with the text messages sent by Martin where he described how in one fight he got pummeled in the first round because his opponent got him on the ground. Sound familiar?
Sounds like pretty much every fight that goes to the ground in the history of fighting.
He certainly learned the value in taking someone to the ground! Unlike his fight club fights though there was no referee to pull him off of Zimmerman.
i wonda if trey woulda cap dat dude who was on top a him yo...i mean he was loooosin an all
If he had purchased the .40 caliber and had it on him, had there not been a referee and if he was getting his head pounded into the pavement I'd say yes.
so lets get this straight. Treyvon gets his ### beat and he refereed a high school fight....thats it? Have you ever watched those goofy little youtube high school fights? Those ''kids '' trying to be like Miami street fighter Kimbo Slice? Comical at best...no bare fisted killers ...just kids trying to be tough.
Why do we not know this?
Oh no! If we're to believe JoJo and Carolina Hustler, Treyvon was a madman. Even after Zimmerman pulled out his gun, Trayvon didn't stop, didn't back up, but went for the kill. After all, he was stoned, and you know what stoned guys do. Also, no doubt that the sugar from the Skittles he was carrying gave him a little rush.
Martin was in fact leaning over Zimmerman when the fatal shot was fired, just as Zimmerman has maintained.To reach that last conclusion, Knox examined both a Florida Department of Law Enforcement report on the gunshot's impact to the hooded sweatshirt Martin was wearing and the autopsy report describing the gunshot wound to the body.The medical examiner determined the gunshot was fired from "intermediate range," but the hoodie showed a "contact" shot, indicating the muzzle of Zimmerman's gun was touching or extremely close to the fabric when the shot was fired.Knox explained that the loose fitting sweatshirt was farther away from the body because of gravity, which pulled it down as Martin was situated above Zimmerman.That is consistent with Zimmerman's claim that he was on his back struggling with Martin when he reached for the gun, pointed it upward and fired, Knox said."We look at the physical evidence and then we say, 'What does it tell us?'" said Knox, who before his 2010 retirement testified often for the same state attorney’s office that was specially appointed by the governor to prosecute Zimmerman.To demonstrate the effects of an "intermediate range" shot through cloth, Knox and Local 6 used a Kel-Tec 9mm handgun similar to the one Zimmerman owned and, at a local gun range, fired test shots through two pieces of fabric: One tightly stretched over cardboard, the other hanging loosely about three inches in front, in contact with the muzzle when the shot was fired.It produced results similar to what was found in the forensic reports: Contact damage on the cloth closest to the gun, and a 3/8-inch hole with a 2-by-2 inch pattern of stippling, or gunshot residue, on the shirt stretched skintight over the cardboard. This was not an exact scientific replication of the actual gunshot, because of differences in ammunition and the weapons' exact specifications, but a demonstration for Local 6 viewers.
From what i remember they didnt find any of treyvons blood splatter on zimmy or his gun and the only prints on the gun were zimmy`s. Now if trey was putting the smack down on zimm wouldnt he have some of zimms blood on his hands? Epic struggle...blood everywhere ...but on trey...just strange.
Some are speculating that man didn't land on the moon. I give them as much credence.
Must have used a safe word. Unfortunately for Zimmerman, the old standby white/hispanic safe word of "help" didn't quite do the job.
You watch too much Dexter. Between the force of the gun shot at close range pushing Martin off of Zimmerman and Martin's layers of clothing to absorb the blood and the rain, I'm not surprised in the least. You keep bringing up no "blood splatter" like it is some epic piece of evidence and it is meaningless.
Im not talking about just the gun shot splatter...im talking about the fight...no blood on treys hands ...zimms bleeding from the nose and treys supposedly trying to smother zimms screams with his hand...yet no blood on the hands...just strange...but i guess it doesnt fit into your version of what happened so it must be irrelevant.
You yourself said you couldn't understand why Martin would assault Zimmerman so violently. If he was on something the equivalent of PCP, that wouldn't be enough to convince you? Is there any evidence to prove this? Outside of an unopened can of juice and unopened skittles, nope. If he is found guilty there is something seriously wrong with the jury and justice system.
There is no argument to the injuries Zimmerman received. Either your stance is that Zimmerman made all of his injuries to himself or it was Martin. Which is it?
How much blood do you expect there to be on his hands? Again if this is all you have to prove your case, good luck with that. I would expect to find little to none. There's an eyewitness that can put Martin on top of Zimmerman and there are the documented head injuries Zimmerman sustained, your theory of [i have no clue what your theory could be] would have to overcome this preponderance of evidence.
I can't believe that you're seriously speculating that Martin bought Skittles in order to concoct PCP, and that this suggests to you that Martin might already have been on PCP. I mean do you have any clue at all how ludicrous you sound?
Its as much about Zimms credibility as much as it is about evidence. This is going to a jury...if his story is full of holes hes screwed. You cant claim treys got his hands all over your face as you are bleeding profusely from the nose and then try to explain why there isnt ANY blood on treys hands....it just doesnt add up....use common sense here ...i know that may be difficult for you but try.
I never said he was actually on PCP or that you can make PCP from Skittles, re-read what I wrote.Anything is possible. Why didn't he open up the juice and take a sip on his walk home, why not open up the candy? Both of those are pretty odd. What was he motioning for behind the counter that the cashier at 7-11 denied him?
Apparently the answer to my question is no.
The more you look into Martin's past, the deleted facebook and twitter accounts, the more questions arise. It's pretty clear you don't care about the truth. You don't care that Zimmerman has black relatives or that he stood up for Sherman Ware, you only care about your ridiculous racial profiling viewpoint.
Actually it can be proven as the toxicology results for Martin were already released.
Oh I care very much about the Skittles-PCP argument. I don't think I've ever cared about anything you've written as much as this. Please continue.
Ahh..so you're going with the defense that Zimmerman inflicted his own injuries. Too many delusional people on both sides in this thread.
Wow. I never thought of that before. You're right. He never did open the skittles bag on the way home.
I don't see anywhere that Tim was throwing around the race card. I don't think the factor of race or Z confronting Martin because Z was predjudiced will go anywhere in this trial. Profiling appears to be evident, but that can be put in another bucket IMO.
In fairness, Tim is the one who has brought up race more than anyone else in this thread.
Search this thread for the word black or profiled and you will see all of the posts Tim has made to make this about race.
No doubt its a long shot and likely unable to be proven, but it would explain why Martin was so violent to Zimmerman. The fact that he had made posts in the past publicly asking where he can get some codeine and how he has made "lean" and would be making it again using OTC cough medicine means it is possible. For those saying it would have shown up on the drug screen are wrong. From what I read they did not perform a comprehensive drug screen that would have picked up OTC drugs.
