Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

[SacramentoBob]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

No.

Gonna respond to mine?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:39, said:

Jojo the circus boy, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:37, said:

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:31, said:Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

No.Gonna respond to mine?

If he failed the lie detector test there would be an uproar, since he passed it we have experts like yourself claiming lie detector tests are not "real science" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

 

[timschochet]

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:39, said:

Jojo the circus boy, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:37, said:

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:31, said:Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

No.Gonna respond to mine?

If he failed the lie detector test there would be an uproar, since he passed it we have experts like yourself claiming lie detector tests are not "real science" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

If he failed we would never know he took it. And if somehow we did know, YOU would be the one attempting to rip lie detectors.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:39, said:

Jojo the circus boy, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:37, said:

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:31, said:Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

No.Gonna respond to mine?

If he failed the lie detector test there would be an uproar, since he passed it we have experts like yourself claiming lie detector tests are not "real science" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

If he failed we would never know he took it. And if somehow we did know, YOU would be the one attempting to rip lie detectors.

You can speculate all you want about things that never happened, but it's just that speculation. Sanford police asked him to take it. Sanford police released him after he passed it. The Voice Stress test that was administered is used by over 1,800 local, state and federal law enforcement agencies - I have a feeling they don't think it is as useless as the experts here since it can often uncover new evidence and lead to confessions once someone fails the test. Zimmerman didn't have to take it, the fact that he did goes a long way in showing he had nothing to hide.Had he failed, police may not have released him that night. If he was the slightest bit worried about what the test might reveal he would have lawyered up.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

More evidence supporting Zimmerman's story:

Evidence Field

The location of the cartridge case supports the story by Zimmerman.

If Zimmerman shot Martin while standing, the case would be a yard or two away from the body. Either the point blank shot was made from the ground so the cartridge didn't get ejected far, or someone moved the cartridge or the body.

Additionally the location of the keys are only about 6 feet from the intersection where Zimmerman claimed the fight started.

Since the keys are on the ground away from where the body was found supports Zimmerman's story that he walking back to his truck with his keys in hand when Martin approached him.

Struggle likely started where the keys were found

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Not at all. The judge said Zimmerman was preparing to flee. He didn't say there is some circumstantial evidence that could indicate Zimmerman was preparing to flee. Those are two very different things. Combine that with the fact that the judge's opinion on the issue was unnecessary for the purpose of his order and it is reasonable to believe the judge has a bias against Zimmerman. He is human like the rest of us, so it's impossible for him not to formulate such opinions. But the fact that he was willing to tell the entire country about his opinion when it was not necessary brings into question his ability to treat Zimmerman fairly for the rest of the trial. A judge not only has the duty to treat the parties before him fairly, he has the duty to appear to be fair.

Link?

Bottom of page 6. If you haven't read it, you should. I thought the judge did the right thing revoking bond and doing so with an indignant beat down. O'Mara (incompetent) and Zimmerman (crooked) deserved it.But the judge seems almost unhinged in the 2nd bond order. He may want to recuse himself. He may deny the motion and let an appellate court remove him, but I can't imagine him staying with this case.

Even those who agree with everything Lester wrote should understand the impropriety of a judge having written some of it. Well, I guess common sense is high hopes for this crowd, so maybe not, but Lester is toast. I suspect he'll drink a toast to O'Mara for helping him get out of this mess.

I did not know what a CVSA test was until I read that.<blockquote>

Today, the Florida State Attorney’s Office released a version of Sanford Police Department’s original report in the Trayvon Martin George Zimmerman case, which includes additional information that was previously redacted in other versions. One highlight of this report is the results of the Computerized Voice Stressed Analysis (CVSA) test, which is basically a “lie detector” or polygraph test that George Zimmerman took on 2/27/2012.

During the test, Investigator W. Erwin asked George Zimmerman to answer two relevant questions regarding the night he killed Trayvon Martin:

ERWIN: Did you confront the guy you shot?

ZIMMERMAN: No.

ERWIN: Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes.

According to the results of the test, deception in Zimmerman’s answers was “not indicated.” In other words, he passed the “lie detector”

;test.

You must be forgetting that Zimmerman was a gun carrier. Of course he could beat a lie detector test.

Spidey Senses

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

If there are, I'd like you you to like me to their post..

But I'd say the fact he passed the lie detector test means more than the emotional knee-jerk reaction that is responsible for the "lets burn Zimmerman" crew..

 

[pantherclub]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

If there are, I'd like you you to like me to their post..

But I'd say the fact he passed the lie detector test means more than the emotional knee-jerk reaction that is responsible for the "lets burn Zimmerman" crew..

Jesus Christ you are illiterate

 

[Carolina Hustler]

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:39, said:

Jojo the circus boy, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:37, said:

SacramentoBob, on 06 Jun 2013 - 10:31, said:Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

Are there people in this thread that contribute anything but smarmy remarks?

No.Gonna respond to mine?

If he failed the lie detector test there would be an uproar, since he passed it we have experts like yourself claiming lie detector tests are not "real science" whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

If he failed we would never know he took it. And if somehow we did know, YOU would be the one attempting to rip lie detectors.

That's BS and you know it... We know he took 3 weeks of kickboxing as a teenager.. We know how many calls he placed to 911.. You Kill-da-Zimmy's would have been all over that like flies on stink..

Disclaimer: (not sure when or for how long he took kickboxing but since you fancy fabrications I figured I'd throw one in as well)

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Are there people in this thread that think lie detector tests are real science?

If there are, I'd like you you to like me to their post..

But I'd say the fact he passed the lie detector test means more than the emotional knee-jerk reaction that is responsible for the "lets burn Zimmerman" crew..

Jesus Christ you are illiterate

Butter go back to the TOAST!! schtick...

 

[SacramentoBob]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

 

[SacramentoBob]

capable of beating lie detector tests to Zimmerman's resume"

Here's someone who believes in lie detector tests.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

 

[timschochet]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

This is a legal conclusion. A more accurate statement would be that a kid is dead.

 

[Slapdash]

More evidence supporting Zimmerman's story:

Evidence Field

The location of the cartridge case supports the story by Zimmerman.

If Zimmerman shot Martin while standing, the case would be a yard or two away from the body. Either the point blank shot was made from the ground so the cartridge didn't get ejected far, or someone moved the cartridge or the body.

Additionally the location of the keys are only about 6 feet from the intersection where Zimmerman claimed the fight started.

Since the keys are on the ground away from where the body was found supports Zimmerman's story that he walking back to his truck with his keys in hand when Martin approached him.

That is one funny ### video. one of the two guys says that Treyvon went home to drop off his weed and then came back to check out Z. Goes on to say that he bought a "blunt" at the store.

Why wouldn't Travon have dropped off the PCP with the weed?

 

[timschochet]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

This is a legal conclusion. A more accurate statement would be that a kid is dead.

Fine. I think he was murdered, but whatever. I didn't realize that I was in court.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

It's your opinion without full knowledge of the situation that the kid was murdered.. And because you do not have full knowledge of the events that night, the justice you ask for may be that Zimmerman is set free...

You neglect the point I made.

If Zimmerman would have failed the lie detector test, you guys would have plastered it all over this thread, but since he didn't, you disregard the test all together..

 

[timschochet]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

It's your opinion without full knowledge of the situation that the kid was murdered.. And because you do not have full knowledge of the events that night, the justice you ask for may be that Zimmerman is set free...

You neglect the point I made.

If Zimmerman would have failed the lie detector test, you guys would have plastered it all over this thread, but since he didn't, you disregard the test all together..

Suppose Zimmerman had failed the lie detector test. Would it have changed your mind about this case? Would you then believe him guilty of murder?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

It's your opinion without full knowledge of the situation that the kid was murdered.. And because you do not have full knowledge of the events that night, the justice you ask for may be that Zimmerman is set free...

You neglect the point I made.

If Zimmerman would have failed the lie detector test, you guys would have plastered it all over this thread, but since he didn't, you disregard the test all together..

Suppose Zimmerman had failed the lie detector test. Would it have changed your mind about this case? Would you then believe him guilty of murder?

I didn't say one way or the other... And you are still avoiding the point..

If Zimmerman had failed the lie detector you guys would have been harping on that all thread long, and I believe you and many of the others would have gained some confidence in your opinion as well..

 

[pantherclub]

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[Da Guru]

I will concede that IF Zimmerman was jumped as he claims, then my theory does not count for much. But nobody has been able to offer a rational reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman and try to kill him.

I don't see a rationale reason for Zimmerman to jump Martin. I will agree with you that there wasn't a rational reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman either though.

I don`t blame T-Mart for blindsiding Z. I would have done the same thing is some creeper was follwing me around.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

pantherclub, on 06 Jun 2013 - 12:48, said:

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Da Guru, on 06 Jun 2013 - 12:51, said:

kentric, on 05 Jun 2013 - 10:03, said:

timschochet, on 05 Jun 2013 - 10:00, said:

I will concede that IF Zimmerman was jumped as he claims, then my theory does not count for much. But nobody has been able to offer a rational reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman and try to kill him.

I don't see a rationale reason for Zimmerman to jump Martin. I will agree with you that there wasn't a rational reason for Martin to jump Zimmerman either though.

I don`t blame T-Mart for blindsiding Z. I would have done the same thing is some creeper was follwing me around.

What if instead of a "creeper" you were being followed by a Neighborhood watch guy who was on the phone with the police? Maybe then you'd have either just walked home and ignored him, or turned to him and asked him what he was following for..

 

[Witz]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

Enough. You don't want justice done - by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted which means your preconceived notions are more important. Sorry but we have different definitions of justice.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I just want justice done.

by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted

I don't think he'll respond to this...

 

[timschochet]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

Enough. You don't want justice done - by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted which means your preconceived notions are more important. Sorry but we have different definitions of justice.

No you misunderstood me. I want the prosecution to prove his guilt because I believe he's guilty. But if the prosecution fails to prove his guilt, then I want him acquitted. If, IMO, the prosecution is unable to prove guilt, yet Zimmerman is still convicted because the jury doesn't like him or some other reason not pertaining to the facts of the case, I will not be happy. I would much rather see him go free than have that happen.

 

[timschochet]

I just want justice done.

by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted

I don't think he'll respond to this...

Wrong again

 

[Witz]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

We're not cheering. This is no game. A kid was murdered. Personally, I just want justice done.

Enough. You don't want justice done - by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted which means your preconceived notions are more important. Sorry but we have different definitions of justice.

No you misunderstood me. I want the prosecution to prove his guilt because I believe he's guilty. But if the prosecution fails to prove his guilt, then I want him acquitted.If, IMO, the prosecution is unable to prove guilt, yet Zimmerman is still convicted because the jury doesn't like him or some other reason not pertaining to the facts of the case, I will not be happy. I would much rather see him go free than have that happen.

I did. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I just want justice done.

by your own admission based on the facts now, he wouldn't be found guilty yet you still want him convicted

I don't think he'll respond to this...

Wrong again

These are the things we must do to get you to respond...

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

live stream

Here's a summary I found on today's proceedings so far:The prosecutor appears to be going down the personal vendetta road during his questioning of the lawyer and the IT guy and maybe he did comply with discovery if they turned over the raw .bin file (the raw file that requires special software to "read"). Don't buy it. Sounds like he screwed the pooch on turning over evidence and it trying to cover his ###.

Now, I'm not quite certain of the details in terms of timeline. If it was not turned over after being requested, that is an issue. If the prosecution was not notified of the omission and given a chance to man up and say "oops - we missed one, here you go", then I'm less inclined to believe in a conspiracy.

IMHO the "bias" and "axe grind" approach is the wrong way to go.

The top 10 posters in this thread have some catching up to do. 2170 pages

http://forums.hannity.com/printthread.php?t=2405841&pp=15&page=2170

 

[SacramentoBob]

Lie detector tests are equivalent to voodoo. They only work if the people believe they work. If the person knows it's a sham, it's worthless.

Never the less, if he had failed it, you kill-da-Zimmy's would be throwing a parade..

My stance on lie detectors is immutable.There is no science behind a lie detector test. It's an investigation technique that is only effective if the suspect believes they really detect lies. But you have to a) believe and b) actually be guilty of something. In that scenario, someone will confess since "they know anyway". No different than any of the other lies detectives throw at you to get you to confess, like "your partner already sold you out, you better start talking fast". It's a trick.

 

[timschochet]

The big news from today is that witnesses cannot testify anonymously:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-judge-rules-witnesses-anonymous/story?id=19339871#.UbDZqtioBQA

Witnesses in the upcoming murder trial of George Zimmerman will not be permitted to testify anonymously, a Florida judge ruled today, just four days before the start of what is be a closely watched case in the murder of teenager Trayvon Martin.

In their last hearing before the June 10 trial, lawyers hashed out the final rules for the proceedings, including whether witnesses would be allowed to testify anonymously, and whether audio experts could testify about which of the two men could be heard yelling for help on a recorded 911 call from the time of alleged murder.

Zimmerman, 29, is charged with shooting Martin, an unarmed black teenager inside a gated community in Sanford, Fla., in February 2012. The teen's death has become a racially charged case that has gained nationwide attention.

Zimmerman's defense attorney Mark O'Mara said some witnesses feared for their safety if his client were acquitted, and asked that they be allowed to testify anonymously during the trial.

Zimmerman, who has received death threats, has been in hiding since his arrest and often wears a bullet-proof vest when he appears in public to attend court hearings

Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda argued that allowing some witnesses to testify anonymously could unfairly sway the jury who might assume those witnesses were more important.

Judge Debra Nelson rejected O'Mara's request, ruling that all witnesses would have to be named and appear in open court.

Also today, O'Mara called to the stand Ben Kruidbos, a former IT director in the state prosecutor's office.

The defense claims Kruidbos is a whistleblower who brought to the attention of Zimmerman's lawyers deleted texts, photographs, and video found on Martin's phone and which prosecutors failed to disclose to the defense.

Among those items are photos of Martin possible holding a gun and smoking marijuana. A video on the phone includes Martin talking and could be crucial in matching his voice to the one heard yelling for help on the 911 tape.

The judge has ruled that those photos cannot be mentioned in Zimmerman's opening statement, but has left open the possibility that they could be introduced later.

 

[timschochet]

I really wonder if this "John" is even going to show up now...

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I really wonder if this "John" is even going to show up now...

I don't think he has a choice.. If he's been served a subpoena or summons, and doesn't show, he'll be held in contempt of court.

Other than trying to suppress his testimony, why would the prosecution object to letting him testify anonymously?

 

[timschochet]

I really wonder if this "John" is even going to show up now...

I don't think he has a choice.. If he's been served a subpoena or summons, and doesn't show, he'll be held in contempt of court.

Other than trying to suppress his testimony, why would the prosecution object to letting him testify anonymously?

Their argument is that it would give added weight to his testimony.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda argued that allowing some witnesses to testify anonymously could unfairly sway the jury who might assume those witnesses were more important.

Why not make all the witnesses anonymous?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda argued that allowing some witnesses to testify anonymously could unfairly sway the jury who might assume those witnesses were more important.

Why not make all the witnesses anonymous?

Because they're trying to suppress his testimony..

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I really wonder if this "John" is even going to show up now...

I don't think he has a choice.. If he's been served a subpoena or summons, and doesn't show, he'll be held in contempt of court.

Other than trying to suppress his testimony, why would the prosecution object to letting him testify anonymously?

Their argument is that it would give added weight to his testimony.

Not if they were all anonymous.. There are obviously ways to get this done properly, get honest and unhindered testimony out of all of them and still keep them safe.. The prosecution is trying to suppress their testimony..

 

[timschochet]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

 

[timschochet]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

Yeah right. Again, I've never heard of such a trial. Even Witness Protection witnesses in Mafia cases are required to show up when the trial is on.

I can see where this is going though. You and Hustler are already setting yourselves up for Zimmerman receiving an unfair trial. You'll blame the judge.

 

[Slapdash]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

Yeah right. Again, I've never heard of such a trial. Even Witness Protection witnesses in Mafia cases are required to show up when the trial is on.

I can see where this is going though. You and Hustler are already setting yourselves up for Zimmerman receiving an unfair trial. You'll blame the judge.

Well it was the judge's fault Zimmerman killed an unarmed teenager on PCP.

 

[Clifford]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

You're the same guy that thought that Zimmerman's video walkthrough was an apt substitute for him speaking in court and that it could be his testimony right?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

But then you thought one of the witnesses had the option to "not show" as well, so you obviously don't have a whole lot of experience in the matter..

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

Yeah right. Again, I've never heard of such a trial. Even Witness Protection witnesses in Mafia cases are required to show up when the trial is on.I can see where this is going though. You and Hustler are already setting yourselves up for Zimmerman receiving an unfair trial. You'll blame the judge.

You need to take your blinders off if you don't think they have a reason to fear the negative publicity in the eyes of the kill-da-Zimmy lunatics for telling the truth. The prosecution knows their testimony kills their case, why else would the prosecution object to allowing them anonymity? You have to have some pretty selfish motives to support risking their safety.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

I've never heard of a trial in which all the witnesses testified anonymously. Sounds pretty ludicrous to me.

It's really not that difficult, just don't allow video cameras in the court room for their questioning. People pretty much already know where they live and can find out who they are but they are entitled to not having their lives turned upside down by you kill-da-Zimmy nutjobs once Zimmerman walks.

You're the same guy that thought that Zimmerman's video walkthrough was an apt substitute for him speaking in court and that it could be his testimony right?

From what I read the police officers would essentially be testifying on his behalf which is rather unheard of in a 2nd degree murder trial, but (mis)interpret that however you want.

I did ask a question if it was admissible but what is your point and what does that have to do with witnesses needing anonymity for protection against rioters?

 

[Clifford]

not familiar with the anonymity thing

don't we already know who the witnesses are basically? Are there new witnesses they say need protecting?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

not familiar with the anonymity thing

don't we already know who the witnesses are basically? Are there new witnesses they say need protecting?

The witness who saw Treyvon on top of Zimmerman has never been identified by anything other than 'John' for anonymity sake..

I'd bet everyone in the neighborhood knows who he is, but not nationally..

I'd want my identity hidden from the public as well. The guy is most certainly going to be harassed if not worse.. Zimmerman received death threats. If some idiot is willing to kill someone he doesn't even know, over details he doesn't know, why not kill the guy who set him free as well?