Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (2 Viewers)

[jon_mx]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence shows it was murder?

The dead person. Why do you hate America?

You have to prove it was unlawful. Now you are just being intentionally dense.

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In America each state makes their own laws. Why do you hate America is the more accurate question.

Florida's law is stupid. The legislator who proposed it and the Governor who signed it into law have both said it shouldn't apply in this situation. Why do you hate America?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In South Carolina a guy shot two alleged burglars in the head that were hiding behind the AC unit.. Was he brought before a jury of his peers?You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about..

 

[jon_mx]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In America each state makes their own laws. Why do you hate America is the more accurate question.

Florida's law is stupid. The legislator who proposed it and the Governor who signed it into law have both said it shouldn't apply in this situation. Why do you hate America?

Florida has every right to make stupid laws. NAZI.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence shows it was murder?

The dead person. Why do you hate America?

You have to prove it was unlawful. Now you are just being intentionally dense.

It is impossible to conduct an intelligent conversation with this guy.. You'd be better off arguing with Busted Knuckles or Tim..

 

[TexanFan02]

Florida has every right to make stupid laws. NAZI.

At last we can agree.

 

[jon_mx]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In South Carolina a guy shot to alleged burglars in the head that were hiding behind the AC unit.. Was he brought before a jury of his peers?You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about..

He knows. He is just fishing, intentionally being an idiot.

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In South Carolina a guy shot to alleged burglars in the head that were hiding behind the AC unit.. Was he brought before a jury of his peers?You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about..

He knows. He is just fishing, intentionally being an idiot.

That guy could still be charged. And that was black on black crime, which is why nobody cares. Which you both know, but you're fishing.

 

[ATC1]

That guy could still be charged. And that was black on black crime, which is why nobody cares. Which you both know, but you're fishing.

 

[TexanFan02]

That guy could still be charged. And that was black on black crime, which is why nobody cares. Which you both know, but you're fishing.

It's true, right or wrong.

 

[Christo]

I'm glad it's going to trial. Zim may very well have feared for his life to the extent that lethal force was permissible. I don't know. IMO the reason why this thing got so big was because the cops should have made an arrest that night. It wasn't their role to determine whether an affirmative defense was justified under the circumstances. Al Sharpton even said as much today. Which was good coming from him.

 

[Fennis]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

That doesnt apply to message boards.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

And in any other state, including Texas, he would have been charged and brought before a jury of his peers. I wonder why John Mx hates America?

In South Carolina a guy shot to alleged burglars in the head that were hiding behind the AC unit.. Was he brought before a jury of his peers?You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about..

He knows. He is just fishing, intentionally being an idiot.

That guy could still be charged. And that was black on black crime, which is why nobody cares. Which you both know, but you're fishing.

So a black guy is going to be discriminated against by the police unless he's killing black people, then it's ok.. Got it..

 

[Guest]

Everyone happy now?

I am. I want Zimmerman held accountable for what happened. If the facts come out and he acted reasonably, then great. But all I ever wanted from the time the story started to smell funny was for him to face judgement formally in a court of law.Sad that some will never accept his innocence regardless of those proceedings, but the events of that evening need to be discovered for what they were.

 

[Christo]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

 

[Christo]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Nothing I said is actually in dispute is it?Zimmerman killed someone.I think people who kill someone should be forced to prove self-defense court in most cases.I think Zimmerman is clinically whacked.Based on 'whacked,' I believe it's likely that parts of his story are proved to be lies.I don't believe it's open and shut that he'll beat the rap even in FL, though I think he's got decent shot.Which of those statements are you taking issue with?As for 'innocent' - I'm glad we live in a country where the burden is on the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone committed a crime before they lock them up. At the same time, to the degree that I care I take some comfort that Zimmerman is going to live with this every day, and deal with it every time he meets someone new for the rest of his life. Just like OJ, I don't care much if he beats the rap - Zimmerman initiated and continued a completely avoidable and pointless encounter that resulted in death of a 17 year old who was minding his OFB and doing nothing wrong.

Every statement you made which start with 'I think' or 'I believe' are very much in dispute and/or just plain false assertions. I suppose it technically true you may think them, but they are factually incorrect.

And just to clarify Zimm doesn't have to "prove" anything. He is the defendant in this case and it is up to the DA to prove that he committed this crime beyond a reasonable doubt. All he has to do is provide a hint of doubt via a defense.

Well to assert an affirmative defense such as self defense the burden actually falls on the defendant.

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

37.5

 

[Christo]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

When Zimmerman admit to murdering Martin?

 

[SacramentoBob]

I see Florida is a death penalty state. Hope it applies.

 

[Christo]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence?

 

[Christo]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence shows it was murder?

The dead person. Why do you hate America?

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence shows it was murder?

The dead person. Why do you hate America?

37.75.

 

[Christo]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

 

[TexanFan02]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Can't wait til he gets convicted and you backtrack.

 

[Fennis]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

new here?

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I see Florida is a death penalty state. Hope it applies.

There is some seriously questionable posting going on in here from Bob and Tex.. I don't post in the FFA often so I don't know their personalities, is this schtick? Or are they really sure they know what they're talking about..

 

[Christo]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Can't wait til he gets convicted and you backtrack.

Backtrack to/from where?

 

[Christo]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

new here?

That last page was dumb even for this thread.

 

[TexanFan02]

I see Florida is a death penalty state. Hope it applies.

There is some seriously questionable posting going on in here from Bob and Tex.. I don't post in the FFA often so I don't know their personalities, is this schtick? Or are they really sure they know what they're talking about..

Who posted in: Florida boy killed by Neighborhood WatchMember name Posts

Carolina Hustler 685

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I see Florida is a death penalty state. Hope it applies.

There is some seriously questionable posting going on in here from Bob and Tex.. I don't post in the FFA often so I don't know their personalities, is this schtick? Or are they really sure they know what they're talking about..

I'm guessing Bob is fishing Christo with this comment.. Is Tx fishing, or is he just Baron of Greymatter?

 

[TexanFan02]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Can't wait til he gets convicted and you backtrack.

Backtrack to/from where?

Exactly. Tell us how you thought he was guilty on page 20 but have been arguing against that for the last 7000 posts. You're covered both ways. I get your schtick.

 

[Christo]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Can't wait til he gets convicted and you backtrack.

Backtrack to/from where?

Exactly. Tell us how you thought he was guilty on page 20 but have been arguing against that for the last 7000 posts. You're covered both ways. I get your schtick.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I see Florida is a death penalty state. Hope it applies.

There is some seriously questionable posting going on in here from Bob and Tex.. I don't post in the FFA often so I don't know their personalities, is this schtick? Or are they really sure they know what they're talking about..

Who posted in: Florida boy killed by Neighborhood WatchMember name Posts

Carolina Hustler 685

This is the first FFA thread I've really delved into.. And it's only a few weeks old.. Others in the FFA might have had more time to figure out whether it's time for you to go light bulb shopping or this is just Schtick..

 

[TexanFan02]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Can't wait til he gets convicted and you backtrack.

Backtrack to/from where?

Exactly. Tell us how you thought he was guilty on page 20 but have been arguing against that for the last 7000 posts. You're covered both ways. I get your schtick.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence?

whatever evidence State Atty. Angela B. Corey and her team of investigators found and decided it warranted a second degree murder charge...duh

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence?

whatever evidence State Atty. Angela B. Corey and her team of investigators found and decided it warranted a second degree murder charge...duh

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

 

[Neofight]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Florida is screwy but in most states self-defense is something that the defendant has to prove. So given that he admitted that he intentionally killed Martin, the prosecution's case would be pretty perfunctory. The real case would be in Zimmerman trying to prove that he only acted defending himself.

Prosecution needs to proove intent first.

It doesn't read like it.

The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.htmlIt reads as if they would just have to prove that the actions shows a disregard for human life not that there was any specific intent held by the defendant. In any case, I didn't say they didn't have to prove anything, just that there wasn't a whole lot in question.

Intent, no. But state of mind is a requirement:

An act is ―imminently dangerous to another and demonstrating a depraved mind if it is an

act or series of acts that:

1. a person of ordinary judgment would know is reasonably certain to kill or do

serious bodily injury to another, and

2. is done from ill will, hatred, spite, or an evil intent, and

3. is of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life.

That's a problem for the defense.

 

[TexanFan02]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence shows it was murder?

The dead person. Why do you hate America?

Nice that you're able to laugh at a 17 year old boy being killed and the killer not being charged because of a terrible law.

 

[Fennis]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

 

[jon_mx]

Zimmerman killed someone - he should have to prove his case in a court of law. Just a hunch based on the fact that Z is almost certainly rowing with one paddle, but I bet there are parts of his story that are just plain false and beating the rap isn't a given even in Florida.

That's not the way it works.

It should be. Terrible law.

Well, in this discussion, it's not the law, it's our system. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The charged don't have to "prove" anything in court. That burden falls to the prosecution. That's the point Christo is making.

People who admit to murdering someone aren't presumed innocent. They murdered someone. This law restricts the police from arresting them and letting justice take its course. It's a terrible law.

Who admitted to murder? Murder is the unlawful killing. Self-defense is not unlawful.

He confessed to killing an unarmed person. He added in that it was in self defense. Its his word against the evidence.

What evidence?

whatever evidence State Atty. Angela B. Corey and her team of investigators found and decided it warranted a second degree murder charge...duh

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Nobody is laughing at anything. But until we see evidence it is uncertain if it is a good case or just one brought out of political neccessity.. The evidence released to date is weak.

 

[Biabreakable]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

Wherever you go there you are.

 

[jon_mx]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Oh come, don"t tell us you have joined this fishing expedition too.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Wow, it got dumb in here all of the sudden.

new here?

That last page was dumb even for this thread.

I didn't think mine we too bad.

 

[TexanFan02]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Nobody is laughing at anything. But until we see evidence it is uncertain if it is a good case or just one brought out of political neccessity.. The evidence released to date is weak.

Technically, Christo is. And we don't know all the evidence, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Oh havent you guys heard the latest??? The whole 2nd degree murder charge is just a big cicus show to please the masses and keep the hordes of upset people from rioting. They really dont have any new evidence to disprove zimmermans self defense claim.

 

[Christo]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Oh havent you guys heard the latest??? The whole 2nd degree murder charge is just a big cicus show to please the masses and keep the hordes of upset people from rioting. They really dont have any new evidence to disprove zimmermans self defense claim.

Speaking of evidence, I thought the SA was going to roll some new evidence out tonight. I guess I missed it.

 

[TexanFan02]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Oh havent you guys heard the latest??? The whole 2nd degree murder charge is just a big cicus show to please the masses and keep the hordes of upset people from rioting. They really dont have any new evidence to disprove zimmermans self defense claim.

I heard that Trayvon was a thug and carjacked Zimmerman, then tortured him for 15 minutes until Zimmerman was finally able to get the gun Trayvon hadn't noticed and shoot him in self defense.

 

[TexanFan02]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Oh havent you guys heard the latest??? The whole 2nd degree murder charge is just a big cicus show to please the masses and keep the hordes of upset people from rioting. They really dont have any new evidence to disprove zimmermans self defense claim.

Speaking of evidence, I thought the SA was going to roll some new evidence out tonight. I guess I missed it.

 

[Christo]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Nobody is laughing at anything. But until we see evidence it is uncertain if it is a good case or just one brought out of political neccessity.. The evidence released to date is weak.

Technically, Christo is. And we don't know all the evidence, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out.

I'm laughing at you.

 

[jon_mx]

Oh, but there can't be 2nd degree murder charges, because Christo and John Mx at that. Oh wait...

Nobody is laughing at anything. But until we see evidence it is uncertain if it is a good case or just one brought out of political neccessity.. The evidence released to date is weak.

Technically, Christo is. And we don't know all the evidence, any reasonable person should be able to figure that out.

You are the one making the presumption he is guilty without seeing the evidence. I am making no such presumption. The evidence so far doesn't come close to proving guilt.