Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch (4 Viewers)

[Leeroy Jenkins]

This is getting pretty bad now.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

here comes the TAPED evidence that she was coached, and the ####### judge won't allow it to be heard

You've implied several times now that you believe this judge is not impartial but is deliberately on the side of the prosecution. If Zimmerman is found guilty, will this be your main excuse?

Ask me when that happens, I don't think he is getting a fair trial up until this point, and I am not alone in pointing out this judge's crystal clear bias.

Why won't she let him play the damn tape? What the hell is she afraid of?

 

[avoiding injuries]

here comes the TAPED evidence that she was coached, and the ####### judge won't allow it to be heard

You've implied several times now that you believe this judge is not impartial but is deliberately on the side of the prosecution. If Zimmerman is found guilty, will this be your main excuse?

Forget the verdict, do you think she is favoring either side?If GZ is found guilty, it will be on the defense team. Specifically the opening joke and inability to break this witness down further.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

"you want that too?"

which she vehemently denies saying. If it is shown she did say that on the tape:

1. What do you think she is referring to?

2. Can we just perjure this witness now and move on?

 

[jon_mx]

This judge is 100 times better than the last one. I predicted early on that that judge would be removed or leave and I was right, which is a fairly bold prediction since that happens pretty rarely.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

here comes the TAPED evidence that she was coached, and the ####### judge won't allow it to be heard

You've implied several times now that you believe this judge is not impartial but is deliberately on the side of the prosecution. If Zimmerman is found guilty, will this be your main excuse?

Ask me when that happens, I don't think he is getting a fair trial up until this point, and I am not alone in pointing out this judge's crystal clear bias.

Why won't she let him play the damn tape? What the hell is she afraid of?

Rules of evidence?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

here comes the TAPED evidence that she was coached, and the ####### judge won't allow it to be heard

You've implied several times now that you believe this judge is not impartial but is deliberately on the side of the prosecution. If Zimmerman is found guilty, will this be your main excuse?

Ask me when that happens, I don't think he is getting a fair trial up until this point, and I am not alone in pointing out this judge's crystal clear bias.

Why won't she let him play the damn tape? What the hell is she afraid of?

Rules of evidence?

If it was that straight forward there would be an objection to Rules of Evidence. There is no such objection on the table.

The only objection on the table is "Improper Impeachment."

 

[avoiding injuries]

Anyone who gives this witness credibility just wants to believe what she is attempting to say.

If she is acting like this on the stand in front of a national audience, can you imagine what she was doing in her house while on the phone with Trayvon? I'm having trouble picturing her being very attentive to that phone call. How long did it take for her to find out what had happened to Trayvon? If she thought this situation was serious, wouldn't she have done more after the call was ended?

I couldn't imagine having a worse witness that my case depended on the jury giving credibility to. Mind boggling.

You guys keep repeating this but it doesn't make it any more true.The crux of her testimony, the most damaging to the defense, is Trayvon saying "get off me." She's stuck to that. The defense hasn't been able to budge her from it. They haven't been able to provide any contradictory testimony. They played a tape which only seem to confirm it. They've had her up on the stand for hours and they haven't been able to impeach her IMO.

Without contradictory testimony, I believe the jury WILL find her credible.

If she was a defense witness, and suppose she said she saw TM on top of GZ, you'd still believe what she says? Even if she didn't mention this until much later after the incident?Come on. You want to believe her.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

here comes the TAPED evidence that she was coached, and the ####### judge won't allow it to be heard

You've implied several times now that you believe this judge is not impartial but is deliberately on the side of the prosecution. If Zimmerman is found guilty, will this be your main excuse?

Ask me when that happens, I don't think he is getting a fair trial up until this point, and I am not alone in pointing out this judge's crystal clear bias.

Why won't she let him play the damn tape? What the hell is she afraid of?

Rules of evidence?

If it was that straight forward there would be an objection to Rules of Evidence. There is no such objection on the table.

The only objection on the table is "Improper Impeachment."

 

[timschochet]

Anyone who gives this witness credibility just wants to believe what she is attempting to say.

If she is acting like this on the stand in front of a national audience, can you imagine what she was doing in her house while on the phone with Trayvon? I'm having trouble picturing her being very attentive to that phone call. How long did it take for her to find out what had happened to Trayvon? If she thought this situation was serious, wouldn't she have done more after the call was ended?

I couldn't imagine having a worse witness that my case depended on the jury giving credibility to. Mind boggling.

You guys keep repeating this but it doesn't make it any more true.The crux of her testimony, the most damaging to the defense, is Trayvon saying "get off me." She's stuck to that. The defense hasn't been able to budge her from it. They haven't been able to provide any contradictory testimony. They played a tape which only seem to confirm it. They've had her up on the stand for hours and they haven't been able to impeach her IMO.

Without contradictory testimony, I believe the jury WILL find her credible.

If she was a defense witness, and suppose she said she saw TM on top of GZ, you'd still believe what she says? Even if she didn't mention this until much later after the incident?Come on. You want to believe her.

It doesn't matter what I want to believe, or what you want to believe. I've been familiar with this case for over a year, and I bring my biases into it, as do you. To the jury, this is all new. My speculation above (and that's all it is) is based on what I believe the jury will think.

 

[The Commish]

Well, that's what I'm asking....I haven't gotten to watch much of her. Was looking for opinions. You don't think she's a liar...a lot of others do. I'm trying to get a sense of her through you guys.

I'm not saying she hasn't lied here at some point but I don't think she did for the cracker comment. There would be no benefit to lie there and it is actually more harmful to the prosecution, imo. I don't think she's crazy but she clearly doesn't care much about what she says when she says it. Not much actual thought rolling around in her head.

The more I listen, the less I think she's crazy, but I have no idea if she's a liar or not. At this point, I don't really trust much of anything she's said other than she was on the phone with Martin.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

She's obviously telling her own story here, I just hope the jury sees it.. She doesn't know who was on top of who, or who struck who first etc, but she keeps insisting that she knows this based on the sounds of the phone call..

 

[Witz]

Anyone who gives this witness credibility just wants to believe what she is attempting to say.

If she is acting like this on the stand in front of a national audience, can you imagine what she was doing in her house while on the phone with Trayvon? I'm having trouble picturing her being very attentive to that phone call. How long did it take for her to find out what had happened to Trayvon? If she thought this situation was serious, wouldn't she have done more after the call was ended?

I couldn't imagine having a worse witness that my case depended on the jury giving credibility to. Mind boggling.

You guys keep repeating this but it doesn't make it any more true.

The crux of her testimony, the most damaging to the defense, is Trayvon saying "get off me." She's stuck to that. The defense hasn't been able to budge her from it. They haven't been able to provide any contradictory testimony. They played a tape which only seem to confirm it. They've had her up on the stand for hours and they haven't been able to impeach her IMO.

Without contradictory testimony, I believe the jury WILL find her credible.

You're solely focused on her testimony right now and you can't just do that. Contradictory vs Excluditory - she made earlier statements that differ to what she's saying right now (specifically the get off me get off me). That's a pretty big piece of information to have been excluded from her earlier statements. The taped statements and her testimony now are from April 2012 till now - prior to April 2012, she did not include that important piece of information in any of her statements so to say she's sticking to her story now is not really telling the whole story.

Re the defense hasn't provided any contradictory testimony - they've already shown and proven that her statements to Crump and the letter she wrote to Martin's mother mirrored the story she was telling now with the exception of the missing information on get off me get off me.

 

[jamny]

Well, that's what I'm asking....I haven't gotten to watch much of her. Was looking for opinions. You don't think she's a liar...a lot of others do. I'm trying to get a sense of her through you guys.

I'm not saying she hasn't lied here at some point but I don't think she did for the cracker comment. There would be no benefit to lie there and it is actually more harmful to the prosecution, imo. I don't think she's crazy but she clearly doesn't care much about what she says when she says it. Not much actual thought rolling around in her head.

The more I listen, the less I think she's crazy, but I have no idea if she's a liar or not. At this point, I don't really trust much of anything she's said other than she was on the phone with Martin.

I couldn't argue with you. She's much angrier today too. Not sure what the jury will make of her.

 

[kentric]

The letter to the mother doesn't include the statement "get off, get off". She indicated she didn't want to upset the mother. I don't see how a statement of "get off, get off" would be viewed as something which could upset the mom. I mean, her son was shot and killed. How is get off get off going to upset her more. Makes no sense.

 

[Joe McGee]

I'm looking at that handwritten statement - it's in cursive and proper English. All she did was sign her name to it in manuscript. She may not have been able to read that thing all the way through and understand it.

 

[shader]

Wow Zimmerman is fat

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I'd like to hear audio of the "you want that too?" part..

 

[Witz]

I'd like to hear audio of the "you want that too?" part..

I missed this (my video feed went down) - what was this from?

 

[Joe McGee]

what time is the feed going back up?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

I'd like to hear audio of the "you want that too?" part..

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is explaining to her, how to respond once it is played.

 

[Worm]

what time is the feed going back up?

Back in session at 1:45 eastern.

 

[Joe McGee]

I'd like to hear audio of the "you want that too?" part..

I wouldn't be surprised if someone is explaining to her, how to respond once it is played.

She got quite a bit of coaching last night. Yes sir, no sir. She's wearing a softer orange shirt today with a LOVE necklace in prominent display.

She nearly wrecked the prosecution's case yesterday all by herself. She destroyed a lot of the sympathy people felt for Trayvon with the aloof way she acted. At one point I saw Trayvon's mom look over at his dad and mouth, "Damn."

 

[Joe McGee]

what time is the feed going back up?

Back in session at 1:45 eastern.

Thanks.

 

[E Street Brat]

party time let get high

Mr ### hoe

 

[pittstownkiller]

God I miss Court TV. These cheesy Comcast newscasts are unbearable.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I'd like to hear audio of the "you want that too?" part..

I missed this (my video feed went down) - what was this from?

When she was disposed by the prosecution, he asked her a question and she answered with that.. As if to say "I thought we weren't going to say that happened" or as she pointed at a script that was laid out for her on what to say. Obviously there could be some completely innocent explanation for this but the prosecution doesn't want it to be heard for some reason..

 

[Joe McGee]

She's 19 years old and she just admitted she can't read and write. What's she been doing for those 19 years?

 

[jamny]

She's 19 years old and she just admitted she can't read and write. What's she been doing for those 19 years?

Cursive. It's not taught in school anymore from what I've been told.

 

[jamny]

I'm out.

Can't listen to the "yes sir" anymore.

 

[jon_mx]

So when does the Didi Playboy issue come out?

 

[pittstownkiller]

So when does the Didi Playboy issue come out?

I am so there.

 

[kentric]

What culture is it that describes people as creepy ### crackers?

Didi: perverts

 

[Gawain]

So what kind of culture refers to someone as a creepy ### cracker?

A pervert

I'm not sure she didn't commit perjury when she said that she understood English.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Well, now the FFA knows. Cracker is a standard description for whites.

 

[Worm]

Really? "I don't recall" as an answer to if Martin used the n-word or cracker? She JUST testified to this a few hours ago.

 

[jon_mx]

So is Didi a future SNL skit?

 

[Gawain]

I didn't hear her answer to the "Did Trayvon refer to whites as crackers?" question. Was an answer given?

 

[jon_mx]

Really? "I don't recall" as an answer to if Martin used the n-word or cracker? She JUST testified to this a few hours ago.

I think it was asked if on a regular basis.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

whatever happened to playing the recording, was that swept under the proverbially rug by the judge too?

 

[Lutherman2112]

Florida cracker

 

[Gawain]

Really? "I don't recall" as an answer to if Martin used the n-word or cracker? She JUST testified to this a few hours ago.

I think she was gaining credibility before lunch, but gave it all back after lunch. I'm not even sure she could come up with her own lies, but I think some how a story was constructed and she was told not to deviate it. Any time there was a question outside of what seemed to be the general narrative she had no clue how to answer, see the pervert response.

 

[avoiding injuries]

CNN is making my head explode. Commentators are saying Rachel is credible and likeable. The disconnect between her and West was a generational thing. West didn't understand that teenagers speak slow and soft.

Followed by another commentator who was in the courtroom and said that some jurors would not even look at Rachel.

 

[jon_mx]

CNN is making my head explode. Commentators are saying Rachel is credible and likeable. The disconnect between her and West was a generational thing. West didn't understand that teenagers speak slow and soft.

Followed by another commentator who was in the courtroom and said that some jurors would not even look at Rachel.

CNN = Tim

 

[avoiding injuries]

I didn't hear her answer to the "Did Trayvon refer to whites as crackers?" question. Was an answer given?

West asked if Creepy ### cracker was a common reference to whites. She said no. Cracker was, but creepy referred to a pervert.

 

[E Street Brat]

She's 19 years old and she just admitted she can't read and write. What's she been doing for those 19 years?

She's still in high school. Give her a couple more years.

 

[jon_mx]

I didn't hear her answer to the "Did Trayvon refer to whites as crackers?" question. Was an answer given?

West asked if Creepy ### cracker was a common reference to whites. She said no. Cracker was, but creepy referred to a pervert.

I am glad we finally found someone who speaks Didi.

 

[kentric]

I didn't hear her answer to the "Did Trayvon refer to whites as crackers?" question. Was an answer given?

West asked if Creepy ### cracker was a common reference to whites. She said no. Cracker was, but creepy referred to a pervert.

I guess that explains why she thought TM was going to get raped.

 

[Chaos Commish]

whatever happened to playing the recording, was that swept under the proverbially rug by the judge too?

You need to stop suggesting the judge may dismiss this case without hearing the defense. No way that happens.

 

[timschochet]

CNN is making my head explode. Commentators are saying Rachel is credible and likeable. The disconnect between her and West was a generational thing. West didn't understand that teenagers speak slow and soft.

Followed by another commentator who was in the courtroom and said that some jurors would not even look at Rachel.

CNN = Tim

Thanks for the compliment. It's undeserved but I appreciate anyhow. For the record, while I do find her credible I don't find her like able.