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For an overall grade, where would you rate the CNN for Left - Right Bias & Accuracy/Reliability (1 Viewer)

For an overall grade, where would you rate CNN for Accuracy/Reliability

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Zow said:
I tend to agree with this. I still find the Fox News talking heads (Carlson, Ingraham, that ranting old guy) to be insufferable, disingenuous, and borderline poisonous but their actual news coverage seems moderately reliable (which is where I'd put CNN). 
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What time slots do these channels repost actual news, or is it all opinion shows now?  

 
IvanKaramazov said:
It's hard to compare people like Tucker Carlson to people like Chris Cuomo.  Carlson is a grifter who spews nonsense for 60 minutes a night, but there's no pretense of him being anything other than that.  I mean, it's obviously an opinion show, and people are tuning in to hear Carlson's over-the-top take on things.  That's not a good part of an intellectually healthy diet, but at least there's no false advertising involved.  Tucker Carlson is the media equivalent of a bag of Doritos -- kind of gross and unhealthy, but nobody is pretending otherwise.

Chris Cuomo, on the other hand, was always presented as an honest broker.  And he actively distorted the news to prop up his brother, who was killing old people in his role as governor while molesting women in his spare time.  That seems like a much bigger deal to me than giving airtime to Tucker Carlson, but neither one is anything to be celebrated.
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No excuse for Chris's conflict of interest there but I saw little of "active distortion" there. Regardless CNN showed him the door whereas Fox actively embraces and encourages people like Tucker and their audience takes it as real news.

 
cap'n grunge said:
No excuse for Chris's conflict of interest there but I saw little of "active distortion" there. Regardless CNN showed him the door whereas Fox actively embraces and encourages people like Tucker and their audience takes it as real news.
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And people don’t take the opinion shows on cnn and other channels as fact?  Stop while you’re behind.  

 
FairWarning said:
Here’s a softball for Capt Grunge - fact or opinion?  https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/30/media/disney-right-wing-media-reliable-sources/index.html
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A mixture of both. 

Brief background of where the criticism started with their stance on the Florida bill...direct quotes from Tucker Carlson...the analysis of possible impact to business.  The Qanon section seemed completely unnecessary.  But seemed overall a pretty pointed critcism at Fox and other Right Wing media (including the info about the Daily Wire trying to open up to Children's programming...which seems pretty odd of them).

 
sho nuff said:
A mixture of both. 

Brief background of where the criticism started with their stance on the Florida bill...direct quotes from Tucker Carlson...the analysis of possible impact to business.  The Qanon section seemed completely unnecessary.  But seemed overall a pretty pointed critcism at Fox and other Right Wing media (including the info about the Daily Wire trying to open up to Children's programming...which seems pretty odd of them).
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How about the nice parlay of tying qanon into this?  Where did this come from?  DW doing kids programming is odd to say the least.  

 
FairWarning said:
Here’s a softball for Capt Grunge - fact or opinion?  https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/03/30/media/disney-right-wing-media-reliable-sources/index.html
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From the article:

"It might be tempting to dismiss these attacks on Disney as irrelevant to the company's bottom line, but I think that would ignore the very real power held by the talking heads and entities attacking the company. We saw over the last six years how effective these same players were at convincing a not-so-insignificant swath of the country that news from reputable sources was "fake." That assault certainly impacted how conservative Americans view mainstream news outlets."

:lmao:  "Be careful Disney. Our rating tanked and it's all their fault!"

 
FairWarning said:
How about the nice parlay of tying qanon into this?  Where did this come from?  DW doing kids programming is odd to say the least.  
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Is it odd? They are creating a parallel economy. They are already filming movies and just released a competing product to Harry’s Razors.

 
Philo Beddoe said:
Is it odd? They are creating a parallel economy. They are already filming movies and just released a competing product to Harry’s Razors.
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Well...a news media business branching out is odd yes...and one employing/pushing Candace Owens yet trying to criticize another media/entertainment company about anything is interesting.

 
Philo Beddoe said:
Is it odd? They are creating a parallel economy. They are already filming movies and just released a competing product to Harry’s Razors.
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I’m surprised this hasn't come up sooner, rally around Buy American and become less reliant on Wall Street.  China and wall st is buying up everything, why not?

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
All opinion articles/shows have a mix of fact and opinion. If you answered "both" or "mixed", then it's an opinion piece.
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It was an analysis piece on CNN Business section...was it marketed as straight news?  Seemed from the tagline of "analysis" the reader knows he is getting opinion of the author.

 
sho nuff said:
NorvilleBarnes said:
All opinion articles/shows have a mix of fact and opinion. If you answered "both" or "mixed", then it's an opinion piece.
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It was an analysis piece on CNN Business section...was it marketed as straight news?  Seemed from the tagline of "analysis" the reader knows he is getting opinion of the author.
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Agreed. Admitting it's an opinion piece should be simple to do and uncontroversial.

 
Mile High said:
The thing political guys seem to always seem to forget is the 40% of Americans who don't give a #### about them and since Disney is a worldwide company, the rest of the world.
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How does the announcement of creating more gay roles in Disney movies play in places like China?

 
I guess I'm mostly surprised that there are over a hundred FBGs who watch enough tv news to have firm opinions on the big national networks. To me, they've always seemed a little lightweight in their overall contributions.

 
roadkill1292 said:
I guess I'm mostly surprised that there are over a hundred FBGs who watch enough tv news to have firm opinions on the big national networks. To me, they've always seemed a little lightweight in their overall contributions.
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To be fair, @Joe Bryant didn't limit the poll (plural if we're including the similar ones for Fox News and others) to TV.  I was assuming the web site(s) were supposed to be part of the question.

 
cap'n grunge said:
I know I'm in the minority here but I've been a big CNN fan for years. Do they have a "liberal bias? Sure but it's in the realm of the lens in which they look at the world moreso than pushing "fake news" to support an agenda.

No surprise for those that know me that i view Fox "News" as a despicable propaganda outlet that has done major harm to our country pushing an agenda of division and hate. They have no.problem with "alternative facts" and being a mouthpiece for a destructive political agenda. 

I don't watch much MSNBC but I sort of view them as alot more slanted liberal bias than CNN. A channel created specifically to take on the propaganda of Fox News.

CNN is not perfect but I think they do an excellent job covering politics especially. When I watch other news events being covered I don't feel like they are being slanted in a way towards biases unlike the same topic I may see on Fox for example.

My main complaint with CNN is that EVERYTHING is BREAKING NEWS 24/7. I know all news outlets do it to attract attention but it's overkill and hurts their perceived reputation imo.
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:goodposting:

The breaking news thing really frustrates me. 

 
Desert_Power said:
What If Fox News Viewers Watched CNN Instead?
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:goodposting: Thanks. Some here might also appreciate a link to the study they're discussing. https://osf.io/jrw26/

Abstract

Partisan media impacts voting behavior, yet what changes in viewers’ beliefs or attitudes may underlie these impacts is poorly understood. We recruited a sample of regular Fox News viewers using data on actual TV viewership from a media company, and incentivized them to watch CNN instead for a month using real-time viewership quizzes. Despite regular Fox viewers being largely strong partisans, we found manifold effects of changing the slant of their media diets on their factual beliefs, attitudes, perceptions of issues’ importance, and overall political views. We show that these effects stem in part from a bias we call partisan coverage filtering, wherein partisan outlets selectively report information, leading viewers to learn a biased set of facts. Consistent with this, treated participants concluded that Fox concealed negative information about President Trump. Partisan media does not only present its side an electoral advantage—it may present a challenge for democratic accountability.
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FairWarning said:
CNN+ is shutting down April 30. That didn’t take long.
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Amazing how out-of-touch this project was...CNN's ratings are in the dumpster, and they think adding a second channel with personalities like Jemele Hill is something the public is clamoring for...talk about living in a bubble...whoever thought it was a good idea should be demoted ASAP because they are not good at their job.

 
I'm still not even sure what CNN+ is.  Is it literally another channel on cable TV?  Or is it more like ESPN Plus, a premium, paid add-on to CNN's website?  Both?  Other?

 
Boston said:
Amazing how out-of-touch this project was...CNN's ratings are in the dumpster, and they think adding a second channel with personalities like Jemele Hill is something the public is clamoring for...talk about living in a bubble...whoever thought it was a good idea should be demoted ASAP because they are not good at their job.
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Demoted?   Heck, probably pay millions to go away.  That is how big business is done these days.

 
Boston said:
Amazing how out-of-touch this project was...CNN's ratings are in the dumpster, and they think adding a second channel with personalities like Jemele Hill is something the public is clamoring for...talk about living in a bubble...whoever thought it was a good idea should be demoted ASAP because they are not good at their job.
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Jeff Zucker.  He got fired.  So there ya go

 
Boston said:
Amazing how out-of-touch this project was...CNN's ratings are in the dumpster, and they think adding a second channel with personalities like Jemele Hill is something the public is clamoring for...talk about living in a bubble...whoever thought it was a good idea should be demoted ASAP because they are not good at their job.
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Plus paying extra $$$ for it..

 
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