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For those who have drafted Michael Vick (1 Viewer)
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"The Waterboy"
Footballguy
Schaub (sp?) 
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Roethisberger.
SofaKings
Footballguy
One would hope.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Must be nice to have your backup qb be a top ten guy. Who's your starter? Manning?
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I got Plummer in the 8th, Vick in the 10th and Kitna in the 15th.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Why would Vick owners need a backup plan moreso than any other QB?
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Did I suggest that?
I took Vick as my QB1 in one league (Farve is my back-up). The league only gives -1 points for turnovers.I figure he should be a top 10 QB this season, and might get more rushing TD's since Duckett is gone.
cstu
Footballguy
Got Ben as well in the 10th round.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I have ended up getting Plummer in almost all my drafts. he just seems to keep sliding and sliding so I finally take him. I'm not sure why everyone seems down on Plummer?
huskerd911
Footballguy
Trent Green 
incubus0
Footballguy
Actually, people that drafted a QB early, which you'd have to to get Manning, usually also use a higher pick to back them up.All I'm saying is, there aren't many people that took Vick as their set starter. Most people that wanted him usually do as part of a platoon of QBs with potential. There are always the few folks that think he will be amazing again, but most people don't.There are about 14 QBs I would want before Vick.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Jay Cutler
einstein2u
Footballguy
Cpep in the 8th....Vick in the 11th
Gargoylez
Footballguy
Vick is close to being a 10-12th ranked QB in my scoring league.20 yards rushing for any player is 1 point.
40 yards passing is 1 point (his downfall)
3 points for a Passing TD (Not his highest point)
6 points for a rushing TD (the reason you take him)
So his VBD/Projection is 15 TD's and 6 rushing. Essentially its 27 throwing TD's and there is only a handful of QB's that can say that.
He makes up for his lack of pass yards with his rush yards.
He should be a starter in most leagues with 3 points passing TD's... but if passing TD's is 6 in your league... yeah hes a back up option.
Just my take.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Vick's been my big gamble this season - I think with Duckett gone his stats are going to be even better (Vick taking a large portion of Duckett's yardage and td's - either throwing or passing). I'm gambling on a 1990 Randall Cunningham year (with greatly reduced throwing numbers, but increased rushing numbers) - low probability, not planning on it, just gambling. At the worst Vick does what he did last year, which in truth wasn't too shabby. So yeah I targeted him as my 1st qb selection as I never go after the "top" QBs.
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
That's understandable. I took him rather late because all but one other owner thinks of him the same way you do. I don't know if he'll be amazing again but I do think he'll at least finish top ten, with the potential for top three.
Spike
Footballguy
Vick is my backup to Brady in my only redraft league. (Brady in the 4.03 and Vick, surprisingly, in the 9.10.)
njxbean
Footballguy
wow 14? I think your going a bit far! what 14 qbs do you have higher than vick?
We have 1 point per 10 rushing, otherwise all other scoring is the same. I will be happy to have him as my #1, others were too scared of the risk.
we'll see how it works out.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Plummer.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
I guess I'm the only one that doesn't care what other people have on their team. Do people really read what's in these threads or just post who they have and move on?
Shooter McGavin
Down the middle
Favre and Kitna. QBBC all year for sure.
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mojorizin
Guest
Bulger/Vick
League awards 1pt PER CARRY for QB.
League awards 1pt PER CARRY for QB.
Real Man of Genius
Footballguy
Jayded
Footballguy
incubus0
Footballguy
In no particular order...P ManningE ManningT BradyD McNabbM HasselbeckM BulgerC PalmerJ DelhommeA BrooksJ PlummerK WarnerT GreenD CulpepperD BledsoeHe's to much of a risk, between not putting up consistent numbers, being a huge injury risk, and having a tough schedule I think the odds are against him this year.
my man otis
Footballguy
Plan to rotate Vick, Favre and Brooks.
I've done the QBBC for 4 years, had reasonable success.
I decided that any of the mid-round guys could be top 7ish this year, and aside from Manning (and now probably McNabb and Palmer as well) I really could find reasons for any of the other QBs rated higher would not be in the top 10.
Vick has a brutal schedule though so i'm not sure how much i'm going to end up using him.
I've done the QBBC for 4 years, had reasonable success.
I decided that any of the mid-round guys could be top 7ish this year, and aside from Manning (and now probably McNabb and Palmer as well) I really could find reasons for any of the other QBs rated higher would not be in the top 10.
Vick has a brutal schedule though so i'm not sure how much i'm going to end up using him.
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No points off for int, plenty of other QB's out there. We have tiny rosters so i could get quite a few off WW or even trade if needed.Tell me your league doesn't take off for INTs...and that you drafted a 3rd QB.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Jake Plummer is gold man! Get him!No points off for int , plenty of other QB's out there. We have tiny rosters so i could get quite a few off WW or even trade if needed.Tell me your league doesn't take off for INTs...and that you drafted a 3rd QB.
incubus0
Footballguy
Warner and Culpepper have MUCH lighter schedules, and they can actually throw the ball too, both have shown that they don't need to rely on their rushing abilities. Yes, they are also big injury risks, but they also both have good (if not risky as a rookie) back-ups you can pick up now for cheap.
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Significant Shrinkage
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*** I POSTED THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED TO HAVE A BACKUP OPTION AS LONG AS YOU GET BOTH PLUMMER AND VICK AND ALTERNATE THEM***
Depending on the scoring system, a combo of Vick and Plummer (both can be had in the middle rounds) could be outstanding this year. The main thing w/ Vick, IMO, is avoiding the road games against top 10 D's (Car, TB, etc). If you do a platoon w/ Vick and Plummer, here's what you're looking at:
Plummer (1) - @StL
Plummer (2) - KC
Vick (3) - @NO
Vick (4) - Ariz
Plummer (5) - Balt (Vick on bye, not a very good matchup, but it is a home game)
Plummer (6) - Oak
Plummer (7) - @Cle
Vick (8) - @Cincy (probably a shootout)
Vick (9) - @Det
Vick (10) - Cle
Plummer (11) -SD (Chargers stifling against the run, but not the pass and it's in Denver)
Vick (12) - NO
Plummer (13) - Sea (tough "D" but its a home game)
Vick (14) - TB (tough "D" but threw for 300 and 2 TD's last yr and it's on the carpet
Plummer (15) - @Ariz
Plummer (16) - Cincy (probably a shootout)
The fact that the league I'm in only awards 3 pts for a passing TD makes Vick inherently more valuable; however, depending on the scoring system, the Vick/Plummer combo could be solid given the fact that BOTH can be had in the 7th-10th rounds of most drafts, and as a tandem should perform as a Top 5 QB. This is simply a good way to get great production out of the QB position w/ minimal investment
Depending on the scoring system, a combo of Vick and Plummer (both can be had in the middle rounds) could be outstanding this year. The main thing w/ Vick, IMO, is avoiding the road games against top 10 D's (Car, TB, etc). If you do a platoon w/ Vick and Plummer, here's what you're looking at:
Plummer (1) - @StL
Plummer (2) - KC
Vick (3) - @NO
Vick (4) - Ariz
Plummer (5) - Balt (Vick on bye, not a very good matchup, but it is a home game)
Plummer (6) - Oak
Plummer (7) - @Cle
Vick (8) - @Cincy (probably a shootout)
Vick (9) - @Det
Vick (10) - Cle
Plummer (11) -SD (Chargers stifling against the run, but not the pass and it's in Denver)
Vick (12) - NO
Plummer (13) - Sea (tough "D" but its a home game)
Vick (14) - TB (tough "D" but threw for 300 and 2 TD's last yr and it's on the carpet
Plummer (15) - @Ariz
Plummer (16) - Cincy (probably a shootout)
The fact that the league I'm in only awards 3 pts for a passing TD makes Vick inherently more valuable; however, depending on the scoring system, the Vick/Plummer combo could be solid given the fact that BOTH can be had in the 7th-10th rounds of most drafts, and as a tandem should perform as a Top 5 QB. This is simply a good way to get great production out of the QB position w/ minimal investment
Warpig
Footballguy
Exactly. I don't like Vick at all and always thought he was over-rated, but he's always been a top 10 qb in my league. So when I had the chance to pick him up in my league I jumped. But I also snagged Culpepper and Brooks. I loves me dem scramblin' qb's! 
In a draft yesterday with the following scoring rules:
4 pts Passing TD
6 pts Rushing TD
1 pt per 50 passing
1 pt per 10 rushing
No neg for INT or fumbles
I took Vick at 8.03 in a 12 team draft as the 9th QB off the board. DD has him as the #2 QB in that system behind only Manning.
4 pts Passing TD
6 pts Rushing TD
1 pt per 50 passing
1 pt per 10 rushing
No neg for INT or fumbles
I took Vick at 8.03 in a 12 team draft as the 9th QB off the board. DD has him as the #2 QB in that system behind only Manning.
I've been able to get Vick as a back up late in drafts. It's funny how it works. He was overrated for a year or 2, and now everyone wants all the other owners that they know better than to draft Mike Vick. Vick is a top 10 fantasy qb...Being able to get him as backup is awesome. Do it if you can.
AcousticNut
Footballguy
I was able to land Delhomme in the 8th and grabbed Vick in the 10th. I'll rotate them as the matchups dictate.
I actually had a guy say, "But all he does is run....". To which I said, "Yes, but we get a point for every 10 yards." He's seems to be a top 10 fantasy QB every year, so I was happy to snag him at QB16!
His receivers have another year or experience and Lelie can stretch the field. I also think he'll get some goalline work with Duckett gone. If healthy, I can see him finishing around QB 7 or 8 at which point he will be a steal.
I actually had a guy say, "But all he does is run....". To which I said, "Yes, but we get a point for every 10 yards." He's seems to be a top 10 fantasy QB every year, so I was happy to snag him at QB16!
His receivers have another year or experience and Lelie can stretch the field. I also think he'll get some goalline work with Duckett gone. If healthy, I can see him finishing around QB 7 or 8 at which point he will be a steal.
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mojorizin
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Really is a good combo. Best thing is, other than Cle/Det and possibly Bal depending on McNair, each one of those matchups is against an offense that can and will score points. None of those games will be run the clock out QB killers.*** I POSTED THIS IN ANOTHER THREAD. I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED TO HAVE A BACKUP OPTION AS LONG AS YOU GET BOTH PLUMMER AND VICK AND ALTERNATE THEM***Depending on the scoring system, a combo of Vick and Plummer (both can be had in the middle rounds) could be outstanding this year. The main thing w/ Vick, IMO, is avoiding the road games against top 10 D's (Car, TB, etc). If you do a platoon w/ Vick and Plummer, here's what you're looking atlummer (1) - @StLPlummer (2) - KCVick (3) - @NOVick (4) - ArizPlummer (5) - Balt (Vick on bye, not a very good matchup, but it is a home game)Plummer (6) - OakPlummer (7) - @CleVick (8) - @Cincy (probably a shootout)Vick (9) - @DetVick (10) - ClePlummer (11) -SD (Chargers stifling against the run, but not the pass and it's in Denver)Vick (12) - NOPlummer (13) - Sea (tough "D" but its a home game)Vick (14) - TB (tough "D" but threw for 300 and 2 TD's last yr and it's on the carpetPlummer (15) - @ArizPlummer (16) - Cincy (probably a shootout)The fact that the league I'm in only awards 3 pts for a passing TD makes Vick inherently more valuable; however, depending on the scoring system, the Vick/Plummer combo could be solid given the fact that BOTH can be had in the 7th-10th rounds of most drafts, and as a tandem should perform as a Top 5 QB. This is simply a good way to get great production out of the QB position w/ minimal investment
Titans_fan
Footballguy
I drafted Vick in only one league with roster restrictions ( :X ) as my #1 QB at 5.07. Team HAD to consist of 2 QBs, 3/4 RBs, 3/4 WRs, 2 TEs. 2 Ks, 2 DEFs. After round 4 I had SJAX, Steve Smith, Gates, and KJ. He was the highest QB on my draft board, so I gambled on him. My 2nd QB was Aaron Brooks @ 15.07. For the record, I filled my roster with D. Foster, Galloway, Elam, Miami D, Barlow, Matt Jones, Alex Smith (TE), Minn. D and Hanson.
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